PipeChat Digest #4024 - Saturday, September 27, 2003
 
Is it o.k. to leave an organ recital smiling?
  by "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com>
Re: Atlantic City Organ Wiring
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: The 32' Cornet
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: The 32' Cornet
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Hymn Survey
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: The 32' Cornet
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
For Bruce Cornely
  by "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@cox.net>
Re: The 32' Cornet
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Wireless Consoles - Going Digital
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: The 32' Cornet
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: AC Ideas
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
OFF-TOPIC: Re: Hymn Survey
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: AC Ideas
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: OFF-TOPIC: Re: Hymn Survey
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
IRC tonight?
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
IRC tonight?
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
MONETTE Help needed (X posted)
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net>
Re: The 32' Cornet
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Is it o.k. to leave an organ recital smiling? From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:49:31 -0400   THOMAS HEYWOOD IN UTICA, NY   Lots of times organ recitals seem to be somewhat grim affairs. A small audience, half of which is reluctantly there, sits through a tediously correct but utterly dispassionate playing of obscure music that will never make the top 40 hit parade, breathes a sigh of relief when the recital is over, makes a quick dash to the door, all the while wondering if time would have been better spent doing laundry (if it was a night recital) or even windows (if it was an afternoon concert).   Happily, there are organists who not only think it's o.k. for an audience to leave a recital smiling, but even encourage the audience to do so! Thomas Heywood, the Australian virtuoso who is playing up a storm wherever he goes, is one of those people. Heywood made his first Utica, NY, appearance on September 26, and you can bet it won't be his last! Playing at First Presbyterian Church on a 62 rank Casavant, he mesmerized an audience of about 350 from his opening piece (Verdi's "Overture to 'Nabucco'") through his grand finale (the Sibelius "Finlandia") and an encore (his own transcription of a movement from the Haydn trumpet concerto).   Thomas Heywood is a performer who exudes joy and enthusiasm in a larger-than-life manner. He is not only a master performer, he is a master entertainer. His programs are reminiscent of those given by Edwin Lemare who Heywood obviously idolizes. In fact, the Utica program was made up entirely of transcriptions except for Lemare's "Concert Fantasia on Bizet's 'Carmen'" and William T. Best's "Concert Fantasy on 'Men of Harlech.'" Not too long ago, such programs would have been looked at with total disdain, especially by orther organists, and I sense there's still a distrust of Heywood's programming from that part of the audience. But the proof was in the overwhelmingly enthusiastic response from the vast majority of those who attended, most of whom were not organists but just music lovers, and not necessarily sophisticated ones at that! These folks ADORED Thomas Heywood!   Heywood's playing is in itself extraordinary. Here is a man with limitless technique, incredible gifts at registering with maximum color, complete understanding and appreciation not only of the transcription, but also of the original work, all undergirded by good taste -- showy while never showing off. But then there's his charming use of spoken program notes. When Heywood talks to an audience, he is utterly charming: it's as if he is having an informal conversation with his closest friends, using a limitless store of musical anecdotes to impart knowledge while at the same time drawing the audience into a close personal relationship. The audience loves him both for his playing and for the warmth he shows while speaking. I'll wager that NO ONE does spoken program notes better!   Thomas Heywood is just finshing his latest U.S. tour, but he will be back, and his busy schedule takes him to many other parts of the world. If you have the chance to attend one of his recitals, do so! Put away your prejudices, listen to the amazing things this man does with a very "different" program, and be prepared to leave the recital thoroughly pumped up -- indeed, SMILING!     Steve Best in Utica, NY   (If you want just a little sample of what Thomas Heywood is all about, pick up a copy of his CD "Who Needs an Orchestra!", available on the Pro Organ label at <http://www.zarex.com>. One highlight is the complete Beethoven 5th symphony...in a peformance that will knock your socks off!)    
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City Organ Wiring From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:13:02 EDT   Hi Paul:   The book on the ACCH organ states 137,000 miles of wire by Stephen Smith. He obviously got that figure from either notes made by Seibert Losch, or from Emerson Richards. It seems exaggerated to me too, but that's what they obviously told everyone.   Remember the world's tallest man? It was said he was 8' 10" when actual measurements showed 7' 11" or there abouts. I suppose it just made for a better story. People did that then, and people would do it now if they could get away with it especially in advertisments.   The console is at one end of the auditorium, and there are pipe chambers a good deal farther away than 450'. SJTD is 601' long and the cable for the 50" State Trumpet must be a long haul to the console. You can't use #22 cloth wire for such long runs. The Ohms drop would be tremendous. The gauge would have to be considerably heftier. The same at ACCH for nearly half the organ. Hefty wire needs to be used so there is very little heat buildup and low voltage drop. The average home uses #12 to #14 wire to the outlets. Industrial useage requires ought or double or triple ought wire to carry the heavy demand loads to the box. Then there was the standard change after WW II from 50 cycle to 60 cycle AC. Ground wires were added to contain surges and shocks.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:24:07 -0400   On 9/27/03 4:25 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > I can sleep easily.   Seb: I'm glad. You SHOULD. LOVED this post, and all the rest. I wish = to heck I could say things like this with greater authority, but what I got = is what I got. LOVE it.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:31:05 -0400   Dear List,   Walter Holtkamp, Sr. toyed with some of Compton's ideas, including not = only the Polyphone, but also the Cornet which is now being discussed. Examples = of both can be found at St. Paul's, Cleveland Heights, where I sang under Walter Blodgett for two years. The Polyphone no longer worked, but the Cornet certainly did.   I agree with Colin about St. Bride's, Fleet Street, an Organ speaking into = a wonderful acoustic, but all coming out of a remarkably small tone opening. Withal, it is a wonderful instrument.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 3:44 PM Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet     > Hello, > > ALL resultants are psycho-musical phenomenon. > > The brain picks up on the actual harmonics and > "re-invents" it; exactly the same way that the 32ft > Cornet works. > > Now Sebastian claims that the 32ft Cornet is > ineffective, but has he ever heard a Compton version I > wonder? > > They are SO effective as to almost make a 32ft reed > redundant.........certainly the smooth Trombone type > anyway. > > The combined 16ft Bombarde and 32ft Cornet at > St.Bride's, Fleet Street in London, is incredibly > effective, and really quite convincing as a mock 32ft > reed, but sounds best when the 16ft Open Wood is drawn > also. > > Also, the best resultant I ever came across has the > pitches of 16ft and 21.2/3ft rather than 10.2/3ft, but > even that was a lot less convicning than a Compton > Polyphone and the 32ft Cornet I mentioned. > > Lest we forget, difference tones are very real musical > and psychological phenomena which caused great > interest during the 19th century in German organ > building. > > Clever man John Compton! > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK        
(back) Subject: Hymn Survey From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:39:10 -0700   I play hymns several times a week at 2 or more senior centers. Although being in church for 50+ years, my objectivity in selections may be muddied.   There are several lists of 'Favorite Hymns', the sources of which may be varied. I would like to propose a survey of what subscribers to this list feel are Favorite Hymns of themselves, and of their congregations.   There are no incorrect answers. 'Enter' as often as a song comes to mind, and I'll tabulate them in alphabetical order.   Thanks,   David E   David G. Evangelides Fulfillment Manager International Bible Society Colorado Springs. CO  
(back) Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:46:36 -0400   There is one in the big A.S./Moller/Reuter at Heinz Chapel in Pittsburgh, = and I seem to remember it having a septieme in it. I'll check next time I have = a chance.   -WG     Nate wrote:     > > Regarding the 32' Cornet that Nate recently encountered > > I looked up the Grand Cornet in Irwin's book yesterday. It didn't = list > the 32' series specifically but it did mention the Manual 16' series as > comprised of 8', 5-1/3', 4', 3-1/5', and 2-2/3'. Whether or not this is > what the Bridgeport organ used I will have to confirm next time but it > sounds right (Because of the Tierce). > > Reference to this stop may be found at: > http://www.organstops.org/g/GrandCornet.html > > Best Wishes, > > Nate > > "The Apprentice"    
(back) Subject: For Bruce Cornely From: "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@cox.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:49:44 -0700   Bruce, if you're out there, email me off list, please.   Dennis Goward dlgoward@cox.net    
(back) Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:12:21 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,     I was only going by Sebastian's own words, which were perhaps open to misinterpretation:-   > Such compound voices are at their least > effective when they are used only > in the bottom octave, and are allegedly supposed to > "take over" from the > Pedal reed at 16'.   That doesn't sound like praise to me!   I would be delighted to think that anyone, anywhere in the world, has ever matched a Compton "mock 32ft reed" using the 32ft Cornet mixture + suitable 16ft stops.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Wireless Consoles - Going Digital From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 07:30:58 +0800   Now in the latest posts we are not talking about radio control consoles. The topic has changed. There are cable(s). My experience with radio means I still have very grave doubts about the problems that could be encountered with wireless control, i.e. no cables between the consoles and the works.   OK I have been told I am not up with the latest!! For years we have had listers telling us of the inevitablility of replacing electronic organs in thirty years or so. Now we have suggestions of using a similar technology in the biggest organ in the world at enormous cost. Would there be built in obsolescence? Do you use the same computer with the same technology as you did 30 years ago? No you don't. Radio has changed too. Equipment that was state of the art 30 or 40 years ago is now museum material. You couldn't even get back up for a computer that old or replacement parts for old radios. Granted modern radio equipment is pretty reliable but there are still break downs.   The maintenance costs of a pipe organ this big must be enormous. Has it ever been used to any large degree. Did all of it ever work properly? I think there would abe a a lot of searching questions should be asked before any plans for restoration are made in the light of the enormous cost.   Ron's comment about the resistance of #22 gauge copper wire is valid up to a point. The voltage drop using Ohm's law will depend not only on the resistance of the cable but also on the current drawn which would be miniscule in a solid state system. At a milliamp or two the drop could be negligible.   OK I am under the table. Fire away! Bob Elms.   ---- Original Message ---- From: effarbee@verizon.net To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Wireless Consoles - Going Digital Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 08:51:12 -0500     >Based on my initial understanding of the specifications >of the Atlantic City organs, it is highly likely that a >Musicom Complete Organ Control System would handle the >tasks quite well. They would not be cheap, but far >less than replacement of those huge interconnecting >cables required in the originals. All data is shipped >from the console computer(s) via high-speed digital >to the pipe controllers. This is done by a single >digital cable in most modern organs; the Atlantci City >organ might take a few small cable to go to the various >divisions, but that would still be a tremendous reduction >in bulk from what is presently required. > >    
(back) Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:00:11 EDT   Hello Everyone   Alright. Please forgive my asking this in the middle of this thread, BUT- = in light of many responses here is my one question on this topic:   What exactly IS the difference between a standard Pedal "Cornet" and a Compton "Polyphone?"   Two of my instruments had 32' Grand Cornets. One was rather effective and =   the other was not that good at all, only on certain notes it seemed.   Thanks   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.    
(back) Subject: Re: AC Ideas From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:14:16 -0400   Classic Organ Works has had a fully multi-plexed system up, running, and debugged for 15 years or more. It has been available through Klann, and is used by Austin and other major builders as well as a host of smaller builders such as my firm. It is reliable, proven, and could handle this job easily. A single 1/4" data cable to each basic chamber area is all that would be required.   Jim SDG Organs       On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:25:23 -0400 "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> writes: Correct me if I'm wrong --   I seem to remember seeing something about a Peterson Control System (relay) that connected the console to the pipe work with a single piece of CAT-5 computer cable -- (roughly .19 per foot here) =3D- I work in the computer industry and still don't put a lot of faith in the wireless technologies -- give me a hard wired connection for reliability.   Tom Hoehn, Organist Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes, Ellenton, FL (substitute - 4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/9?- Rodgers/Ruffati/Wicks) CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS/AGO http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of RonSeverin@aol.com Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:50 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: AC Ideas     Hi Mike:   Peterson has something in the works regarding a wireless playing action. As of last year, they were testing it on some extant organs. The effective range is less than 400 feet from the console to the source but in most places more than adequate. In ACCH the distances are greater. It would sure simplify things there, and save 137,000 miles of stranded color coded cable. The new codes would require removing the old cotton/wax covered wire used at the time. Can you imagine belling out 137,000 miles of cotton/wax wire cable. One or more of the relay rooms has been put out of commission and used for the new seating. Many of the old relays were beyond repair in the 1946 flooding so it might be wise to go with the modern micro relays and fiber optic cables. The original piston settings were set in a location far away from the console using trippers. It would be nice to have several memories settable at the console, rather than making notes and setting them on remote boards. Purists probably wouldn't like this, but it does make perfectly good sense. Nostalgia sometimes costs more, than common sense, and in this case a lot more. Perhaps a digital sample of "PLUSH" would work for these folks on each piston. :) Can you imagine voicing capabilities for "PLUSH"? How about "PLUSH" in stereo? Works for me.   On the wireless applications, I'm not sure how physical obstructions affect the performance, but I do think it has great promise.   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Re: Hymn Survey From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:33:38 -0700   I just happen to keep a list of "Moldy Oldies" (grin), to make sure I hit ALL of them at least once a year ... numbers refer to the (American) Episcopal Hymnal, 1940:   The Moldy Oldies   P - processional S - sequence C - communion R - recessional   There=3Ds a Wideness In God=3Ds Mercy - 304 S or R Thou Didst Leave Thy Throne - 321 ? O For A Thousand Tongues To Sing - 325, 2nd P In The Hour Of Trial - 334 C In The Cross Of Christ I Glory - 336 C When I Survey The Wondrous Cross - 337 C O Lamb Of God, Still Keep Me - 339 C Beneath The Cross Of Jesus - 341 C Fairest Lord Jesus - 346, 2nd C O Saviour, Precious Saviour - 349 R Crown Him With Many Crowns - 352 P All Hail The Power Of Jesus=3D Name - 355, 1st R Golden Harps Are Sounding - 359 S, maybe When Morning Gilds The Skies - 367 P Come, Holy Spirit, Heavenly Dove - 369 C Breathe On Me, Breath Of God - 375, 2nd C I Love Thy Kingdom, Lord - 388 P or R Rise, Crowned With Light - 389, 1st P or R Faith Of Our Fathers - 393 P The Church=3Ds One Foundation - 396 P O Jesus, Thou Art Standing - 407 C Take My Life, And Let It Be - 408 S Just As I Am - 409, 3rd C Jesus, My Saviour, Look On Me - 412 C O For A Closer Walk With God - 416, 2nd C? What A Friend We Have In Jesus - 422 P, C, R Jesus, And Shall It Ever Be - 423 P I Heard The Voice Of Jesus Say - 424, 1st P, C He Leadeth Me - 426 R Lead, Kindly Light - 430, 2nd C Lead Us, O Father - 433, 2nd P Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah - 434 ( Welsh tune) R Dear Lord And Father Of Mankind - 435, 2nd C I Need Thee Ev=3Dry Hour - 438, 1st C My Faith Looks Up To Thee C O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go - 458, 2nd C Jesus, The Very Thought Of Thee - 462, 2nd P, C Thou Hidden Love Of God, Whose Height - 464 P, R Nearer, My God, To Thee - 465 C Abide With Me - 467 P, C Rock Of Ages - 471, 2nd P, C Hark, Hark My Soul - 472 P, C Come, Ye Disconsolate - 483 P, C Lift Up Your Heads - 484 P Saviour, Again To Thy Dear Name We Raise - 487 R Lord, Dismiss Us - 489, 1st R God Be With You Till We Meet Again - 490 ( old tune) R Blest Be The Tie That Binds - 495, 2nd R God Of Grace And God Of Glory - 783 R Rise Up, O Men Of God - 535 P, R Christ For The World We Sing - 537 P Soon May The Last Glad Song Arise - 539, 2nd S Jesus Shall Reign - 542 P Am I A Soldier Of The Cross - 550 P Onward, Christian Soldiers - 557 R Stand Up, Stand Up For Jesus - 562 R How Firm A Foundation - 564 R Jesus Calls Us - 566, 2nd P On Our Way Rejoicing - 568 R Rejoice, Ye Pure In Heart - 579, 2nd R   Cheers,   Bud                 David Evangelides wrote:   > I play hymns several times a week at 2 or more senior centers. Although =   > being in church for 50+ years, my objectivity in selections may be = muddied. > > There are several lists of 'Favorite Hymns', the sources of which may be =   > varied. I would like to propose a survey of what subscribers to this > list feel are Favorite Hymns of themselves, and of their congregations. > > There are no incorrect answers. 'Enter' as often as a song comes to > mind, and I'll tabulate them in alphabetical order. > > Thanks, > > David E > > David G. Evangelides > Fulfillment Manager > International Bible Society > Colorado Springs. CO > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: AC Ideas From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:54:15 -0400   >A single 1/4" data cable to each basic chamber area is all that would = be required.<   <drool>   Are repeaters necessary above a specific distance?   This all sounds better and better as we go along. (C: Next time they = want to butcher the organ to install a toilet in the ceiling they'll be = surprised that unsnapping one connection takes away their fun.   Who makes the decisions concerning the organ anyways? The owner or the = ACCHOS?   = -Nate = "The Apprentice"  
(back) Subject: Re: OFF-TOPIC: Re: Hymn Survey From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:54:07 -0500   What about Lift High the Cross, Love Divine, A Mighty Fortress, Amazing Grace, Holy God We Praise Thy Name, Holy, Holy, Holy, How Great Thou Art, and What Wondrous Love Is This? (I am sorry if I am repeating any of Bud's, but these are my very favorites.) Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@cox.net To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 17:33:38 -0700 Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Re: Hymn Survey   > I just happen to keep a list of "Moldy Oldies" (grin), to make sure I > hit ALL of them at least once a year ... numbers refer to the > (American) > Episcopal Hymnal, 1940: > > The Moldy Oldies > > P - processional > S - sequence > C - communion > R - recessional > > There=3Ds a Wideness In God=3Ds Mercy - 304 S or R > Thou Didst Leave Thy Throne - 321 ? > O For A Thousand Tongues To Sing - 325, 2nd P > In The Hour Of Trial - 334 C > In The Cross Of Christ I Glory - 336 C > When I Survey The Wondrous Cross - 337 C > O Lamb Of God, Still Keep Me - 339 C > Beneath The Cross Of Jesus - 341 C > Fairest Lord Jesus - 346, 2nd C > O Saviour, Precious Saviour - 349 R > Crown Him With Many Crowns - 352 P > All Hail The Power Of Jesus=3D Name - 355, 1st R > Golden Harps Are Sounding - 359 S, maybe > When Morning Gilds The Skies - 367 P > Come, Holy Spirit, Heavenly Dove - 369 C > Breathe On Me, Breath Of God - 375, 2nd C > I Love Thy Kingdom, Lord - 388 P or R > Rise, Crowned With Light - 389, 1st P or R > Faith Of Our Fathers - 393 P > The Church=3Ds One Foundation - 396 P > O Jesus, Thou Art Standing - 407 C > Take My Life, And Let It Be - 408 S > Just As I Am - 409, 3rd C > Jesus, My Saviour, Look On Me - 412 C > O For A Closer Walk With God - 416, 2nd C? > What A Friend We Have In Jesus - 422 P, C, R > Jesus, And Shall It Ever Be - 423 P > I Heard The Voice Of Jesus Say - 424, 1st P, C > He Leadeth Me - 426 R > Lead, Kindly Light - 430, 2nd C > Lead Us, O Father - 433, 2nd P > Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah - 434 ( Welsh tune) R > Dear Lord And Father Of Mankind - 435, 2nd C > I Need Thee Ev=3Dry Hour - 438, 1st C > My Faith Looks Up To Thee C > O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go - 458, 2nd C > Jesus, The Very Thought Of Thee - 462, 2nd P, C > Thou Hidden Love Of God, Whose Height - 464 P, R > Nearer, My God, To Thee - 465 C > Abide With Me - 467 P, C > Rock Of Ages - 471, 2nd P, C > Hark, Hark My Soul - 472 P, C > Come, Ye Disconsolate - 483 P, C > Lift Up Your Heads - 484 P > Saviour, Again To Thy Dear Name We Raise - 487 R > Lord, Dismiss Us - 489, 1st R > God Be With You Till We Meet Again - 490 ( old tune) R > Blest Be The Tie That Binds - 495, 2nd R > God Of Grace And God Of Glory - 783 R > Rise Up, O Men Of God - 535 P, R > Christ For The World We Sing - 537 P > Soon May The Last Glad Song Arise - 539, 2nd S > Jesus Shall Reign - 542 P > Am I A Soldier Of The Cross - 550 P > Onward, Christian Soldiers - 557 R > Stand Up, Stand Up For Jesus - 562 R > How Firm A Foundation - 564 R > Jesus Calls Us - 566, 2nd P > On Our Way Rejoicing - 568 R > Rejoice, Ye Pure In Heart - 579, 2nd R > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > > > > > > David Evangelides wrote: > > > I play hymns several times a week at 2 or more senior centers. > Although > > being in church for 50+ years, my objectivity in selections may be > muddied. > > > > There are several lists of 'Favorite Hymns', the sources of which may > be > > varied. I would like to propose a survey of what subscribers to this > > list feel are Favorite Hymns of themselves, and of their > congregations. > > > > There are no incorrect answers. 'Enter' as often as a song comes to > > mind, and I'll tabulate them in alphabetical order. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David E > > > > David G. Evangelides > > Fulfillment Manager > > International Bible Society > > Colorado Springs. CO > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: IRC tonight? From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:49:09 -0400   Is anyone going to be on IRC tonight?   I will look in soon,   Bob  
(back) Subject: IRC tonight? From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 20:49:09 -0400   Is anyone going to be on IRC tonight?   I will look in soon,   Bob  
(back) Subject: MONETTE Help needed (X posted) From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 22:36:52 -0400   Andres Gunther agunther@cantv.net   Dear List,   I am interested in L.G. Monette's "The Art of Organ Voicing"; but I was = told that it is permanently out of print.   If anybody is willing to sell me an used or spare exemplar please contact = me PRIVATEDLY.   Thanks in advance Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.        
(back) Subject: Re: The 32' Cornet From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:28:14 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   The Compton "polyphone" is a real 32ft organ pipe, but is a sort of labyrinth of cube shape with valves which open and close various chambers within the cube. It's a long time since I looked at one, but they are just like big wooden boxes from the outside.   The effect is not very loud, but it is genuine 32ft tone nevertheless, but only goes down to low EEEE, after which, the ear cannot discern the actual note. Compton therefore made all the bottom four notes sound the low EEEE.   The 32ft Cornet was also, I believe, a Compton invention which can be simulated on many organs.   The theory is that a low pitched mixture provides the pure harmonics heard in a 32ft reed. By adding the Cornet to the fundamental tones and a good 16ft reed, the "ear" actually equates this with real 32ft reed tone and actually surmises that the 32ft fundamental can be heard.   I forget the exact composition, but the mixture is made up of the 32ft series of harmonics, and usually, if not always, includes both Tierce and Septieme.   A very close simulation can be done on many organs with a decent pedal reed and a good open wood rank at 16ft pitch. The trick is to play, for example, a low D on the pedals and then, on a rather dull 8ft flute, play a D major chord in the bottom octave.   See if you can get it to work!   regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- ScottFop@aol.com wrote: > > What exactly IS the difference between a standard > Pedal "Cornet" and a > Compton "Polyphone?" >         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com