PipeChat Digest #4422 - Thursday, April 8, 2004
 
Re: pipe organ control systems
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Turn The Other Cheek
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Turn The Other Cheek
  by <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Re: pipe organ control systems
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Re:altering the alter
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Dieu Parmi Nous
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
ALL READ please
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: ALL READ please
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Mr. Nash
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Mr. Nash
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Boellman
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Bye!
  by <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4418 - 04/07/04
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: St. Augustine's Kilburn
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Lift Every Voice and Sing! Concert Tour
  by "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com>
Suite Gothique...
  by "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: pipe organ control systems From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:35:11 EDT   For years, my firm has had great success with Peterson, both in terms = of reliability and exceptional service. The longevity and stability of the = firm weigh heavily in our decision to use their products. There are, of course, some other fine providers out there, who have = been in business for decades with proven track records. I have seen many small firms come and go, with recommendations popping = up on various chatlists for firms well outside of the major suppliers. While = I am sure that new, fine firms will emerge, do you really wish to gamble = with your clients' money, especially when you have indicated that money is an = issue? INVEST in a system, don't just BUY one. If "OrgoTekk" or "ComboMajick" = relays built in a nearby basement are tempting, at least do a lot of questioning = and get references from installations that are longstanding and proven.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City   ,  
(back) Subject: Re: Turn The Other Cheek From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 21:37:43 -0400   "...And there are varieties of ministries, but the same Lord. And there are varieties of effects, but the same God who works all things in all persons. But to each one is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good."   Fred W. Andrea III, Ph.D. Pastor fandrea@fbcaiken.org   cnash cnash wrote:   > Ms Jones.... > > I am sure every run of the mill organist could use stuff like you = publish....however...there are several (thousand) of us who use Frog Music = as more of a comic relief type publisher. We may be advertising for = you...HOWEVER...I think the stuff you publish speaks for itself. > > Chris > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: noel jones <gedeckt@usit.net> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 21:25:01 -0400 > > >>Ken, >> >>Everytime you mention us our sales go up, too! Thank you, as well. >> >>Back to pipechatting, please. >> >> >>-- >>noel jones, aago >>noeljones@frogmusic.com >>|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| >>moderator, rodgers organ users group at frog music press >>publishing music, midi and users manuals for the rodgers organ >>1 877-249-5251 toll free >>athens, tn, usa >>users group & the frog web site: www.frogmusic.com >> >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> >> > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >   -- noel jones, aago noeljones@frogmusic.com |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| moderator, rodgers organ users group at frog music press publishing music, midi and users manuals for the rodgers organ 1 877-249-5251 toll free athens, tn, usa users group & the frog web site: www.frogmusic.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Turn The Other Cheek From: <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 21:42:28 -0400   Just so long as you make sure my 40% commission check arrives on time, I'm delighted, of course. I need a new dust rag for my practice organ.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY   On 7 Apr 2004, at 9.25 PM, noel jones wrote:   > Everytime you mention us our sales go up, too! Thank you, as well.    
(back) Subject: Re: pipe organ control systems From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:51:10 EDT   In a message dated 4/7/2004 3:53:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = dorian@nac.net writes: We maintain a small 2 manual, 14 rank pipe organ that is in need of a new control system. The console has been somewhat electrified but retains an ailing pneumatic combination action. The church has limited funds, but wants something that is both efficient AND effective with regards to MIDI interfacing as well as general function.   I would appreciate input from the list as to what systems are worthy of consideration. well, FWIW, almost any of the major-name makers of these systems will = work, and most are price competitive. I prefer to work with Peterson systems = because my experiences with that company have been the best. Purchase price of any =   systme is only the one consideration. I think that after-purchase support = is as important if not moreso because just about anyone cann sell you a bunch of =   circuit cards and assembly instructions and turn you loose, but those = companies that provide support when things don't go exactly as planned (and they = seldom do with pipe organs) are really giving more value for the $$'s spent. (IMHO).   Rick in VA    
(back) Subject: Re: Re:altering the alter From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:57:57 -0500   According to the Oxford Dictionary, "alter" and "altar" are both = acceptable spellings.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Wheelock" <llwheels@mac.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:10 AM Subject: Re:altering the alter     > > On Apr 7, 2004, at 5:01 AM, Bob Elms wrote: > > > Shouldn't we alter the word "alter" to "altar"?? > > Thank you Bob! I was turning four shades of blue here at my computer as > I read the postings fully-competent people mis-choosing the word > 'alter' for 'altar;' a common mistake among the laiety, but > embarrassing for church professions, IMHO.      
(back) Subject: Re: Dieu Parmi Nous From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 23:11:04 EDT   Dale in Florida wrote that he would like to learn Dieu Parmi Nous....   I had to learn it in college, where I promptly put it back on the shelf = and have never reopened the score. My organ professor told me that it was one = of those pieces that I "had" to learn, but what I did with it once I learned = it was my own business. LOL I've managed to do just fine not ever playing = since 1991.   Messaien just doesn't do anything for me. I've tried to keep an open mind =   about his music, but I find that I just dislike it more everytime I try to =   appreciate it. I'm just more of tonal person--nothing wrong with atonal = music or mystical music, I just like a tonal center.   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: ALL READ please From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 22:18:40 -0500   Re: <cnash cnash>   Dear Gentle Pipechatters,   Everyone now -- join me in waving BYE-BYE to Mr. Nash...! <door slam>   So sorry for all the trouble today -- I know that everybody probably has many better things to be doing right now....! ;-)   Thank you all for your patience and continued good manners, despite it = all.   Now, back to our regularly scheduled Pipechatting! (I hope)   Sincerely,   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator admin@pipechat.org (who had better things to do tonite too...so much for *that*!)    
(back) Subject: Re: ALL READ please From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:24:05 -0400   Wow, I thought it was all a really late April Fool's joke... I didn't = think it was in anyone to be THAT rude! And for the record, I like the = Boellman Suite... anything that sounds incredibly difficult but isn't is = perfect in my book.   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Mr. Nash From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:57:02 -0500   Dear Folks   Earlier this evening we wrote Mr. Nash - I really almost rebel at using the prefix MR. after his deplorable behavior - asking for an apology not only to Desiree' but also to all the members of the list. The following is what we received back:   ***************************************** >Oh how terrible....<shrugs>...maybe if there were more professionals >on your list..it would affect me in a negative way. I will make >sure however to "talk you up" at my AGO regional convention concerts >(3) and to my colleagues in the chapter of which I am subdean. I am >sure they are anxious to hear of your....EXPECTATIONS of my humble >apology. I said nothing that was not factual, I did nothing wrong. > Christopher *******************************************   I was appalled to read his response. This is the kind of so-called "professionals" that we DON'T need in our profession! People like this are what turns off the general public to the organ.   I'm also very shocked that someone that is an organist in a church and professes to be a church musician would act this way especially during the holiest week of the church year. This behavior is completely uncalled for.   To those of you that have written privately to us about this behavior this afternoon I do wish to thank you for your comments and concern.   I hope you all have a Happy Easter and "make it though" the next few days! Back years ago when I played in the Roman Church I always thought that I should just move my bed to the Choir Loft for the duration. <G>   This topic is no closed for discussion. If you have any comments please write privately   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Mr. Nash From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 00:09:13 -0400   David --   Perhaps forwarding the correspondance to his Music Director and Pastor at First Baptist Church of Aiken,SC may bring forth a better response abd apology.   Tom Hoehn, Organist Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes, Ellenton, FL (substitute - 4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/9?- = Rodgers/Ruffati/Wicks) Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 11:57 PM Subject: Mr. Nash     > Dear Folks > > Earlier this evening we wrote Mr. Nash - I really almost rebel at > using the prefix MR. after his deplorable behavior - asking for an > apology not only to Desiree' but also to all the members of the list. > The following is what we received back: > > ***************************************** > >Oh how terrible....<shrugs>...maybe if there were more professionals > >on your list..it would affect me in a negative way. I will make > >sure however to "talk you up" at my AGO regional convention concerts > >(3) and to my colleagues in the chapter of which I am subdean. I am > >sure they are anxious to hear of your....EXPECTATIONS of my humble > >apology. I said nothing that was not factual, I did nothing wrong. > > > Christopher > ******************************************* > > I was appalled to read his response. This is the kind of so-called > "professionals" that we DON'T need in our profession! People like > this are what turns off the general public to the organ. > > I'm also very shocked that someone that is an organist in a church > and professes to be a church musician would act this way especially > during the holiest week of the church year. This behavior is > completely uncalled for. > > To those of you that have written privately to us about this behavior > this afternoon I do wish to thank you for your comments and concern. > > I hope you all have a Happy Easter and "make it though" the next few > days! Back years ago when I played in the Roman Church I always > thought that I should just move my bed to the Choir Loft for the > duration. <G> > > This topic is no closed for discussion. If you have any comments > please write privately > > David > -- > **************************************** > David Scribner > Owner / Co-Administrator > PipeChat > > http://www.pipechat.org > mailto:admin@pipechat.org > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Boellman From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 23:07:27 -0500   I don't look down on the Suite; I'm just not crazy about it. And I am generally guilty of remembering a piece in the context of a personal experience. I played the toccata as a postlude once with a non-musician page-turner, the kind that couldn't get the page turned until I was halfway through the next page. Glad it wasn't that hard and was mostly intuitive, but that was a tough 4-5 minutes! I know people love the prayer, and will play it when asked - it's just so treacly to me!   David can tell you that I used to be unable to sit through the Widor toccata without getting motion sickness. I have managed to handle it better in my older years, but I still don't like it, and it still makes me queasy. Go figure.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Bye! From: <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 00:25:34 -0400   Really just don't have time for this.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4418 - 04/07/04 From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 22:06:08 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Two small points re: John's posting.   St.Augustine's, Kilburn, is almost pure Fr Willis tonally. It is one of the few which contain the very rare, pear shaped Vox Humanas. The exception were the Harrison-ified Great reeds, which have now been taken back to the original Willis sound and sound better for it.   Secondly, so far as I am aware, Violette supplied pipework to Fr Willis, but in more recent years, the company has made its own pipework and claim to be trade suppliers from the metal shop.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK         --- John Foss <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > The Harrison rebuild at Kilburn, > where you (Colin Mitchell) presided for a time, is > also one of my > favourites......... > I don't know to what extent present > day organ builders still roll their own - but I > guess > that a lot of builders buy at least some of their > pipes from trade suppliers.     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Augustine's Kilburn From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 02:07:55 -0400   My mother went to St. Augustine's, Kilburn for years, and it was a real, proper, "smells and bells " High Anglican church. It must be at least forty years since I was last in there, and I do not remember anything = about the organ, other than who-ever was the organist at the time played it very =   well.   The church has often been used as a recording venue over the years, but is =   the church still open for High Anglican services?   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Re: Lift Every Voice and Sing! Concert Tour From: "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 00:57:24 -0700 (PDT)   > ----- Original Message ----- > From: T.Desiree' Hines > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:49 PM > Subject: Lift Every Voice and Sing! Concert Tour > > > Announcing the Lift Every Voice and Sing! Concert > Tour inspired by the > doctoral dissertation of Wayne Anthony Barr A > History of the Pipe Organ in > Black Churches in the U.S.     Desiree,   WOuld you be good enough to tell us the school of higher learning that Mr. Barr studied at? And has this dissertation been published? If it hasn't, perhaps it should be...   Morton Belcher fellow list member       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/  
(back) Subject: Suite Gothique... From: "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 01:36:01 -0700 (PDT)   Greetings, one and all...   I learned Suite Gothique when I was 16 (first semester of my junior year in senior high school)... Although my teacher (now deceased) didn't tell me directly, I'm sure she felt it was a work which organists learned...   Now, as far as some movements go:   I --- Introduction... yes, it is in a minor key, but it makes a nice postlude..   II --- Minuet... You don't have to play the complete movement... Part of it sounds like a march, to me, and makes a nice mini-postlude...   III Prayer of Notre Dame... A wonderful prelude.... have received many nice compliments when I have played it as a prelude...   IV Toccata... Yes, this movement certainly sounds difficult, although I didn't have too much trouble using it... And it has always been well-received as a rousing postlude...   In short, yes, the time I spent learning this Suite was well worth it... I have gotten a lot of mileage out of Suite Gothique... I hope all of you who have learned it will also get a lot of mileage out of this Suite, too...   By the way, on at least one list there were a couple of postings which mentioned that Alec Wyton, when teaching at Union Seminary, told his students to try and learn as much service repertoire as possible when in school... because they [his students] probably wouldn't have that much free time after graduating to increase their repertoire that fast...     Best wishes,     Morton Belcher       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/