PipeChat Digest #4437 - Wednesday, April 14, 2004
 
RE: Discovery of 18th century music
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Front of TAO April Edition
  by "John Jarvis" <JLJarvis@comcast.net>
My newest "favorite" recording (x posted)
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata
  by <Gardum@aol.com>
Re: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: Front of TAO April Edition
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Hi
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Past issues of Chorister Guild magazine/Thanks for Introit  suggestions
  by "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu>
Re: Front of TAO April Edition
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Hi
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Hi
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Past issues of Chorister Guild magazine/Thanks for Introit  suggestio
  by "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com>
Re: Hi
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
New Website - Temple Organs
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Kadak pallet valves
  by "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net>
Organist Search
  by <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com>
Yes concertartist.info works, at least for me
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Hi
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Lemare Andantino
  by <Devon3000@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Discovery of 18th century music From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 04:34:08 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Andres is absolutely correct.   The organ at Halifax PC was originally by Snetzler, and the present instrument still contains ranks by him.   Almost certainly, from what I understand, the Herschel Voluntaries were registered for the Snetzler organ.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Andr=E9s G=FCnther <agun@telcel.net.ve> wrote: > Andres Gunther > agun@telcel.net.ve > > Herschel was acquainted with Snetzler, the famous > 18th cty organ builder who > lived in England and "exported" several organs to > America.       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 04:47:01 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I've got two on LP's.   The first is William Davies at the Royal Festival Hall, London, ( W H Smith bookshop release) and the better one is by Christopher Dearnley at St.George's Hall.(Vista?) (The organ is much more suitable and the recording superior)   William Davies knew Fletcher, who composed mainly light music.   If you draw a blank elsewhere, I can certainly dig out the records and find the record references for you.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- ProOrgo53@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know of a recording of Percy Fletcher's > FESTIVAL TOCCATA? >       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html  
(back) Subject: Front of TAO April Edition From: "John Jarvis" <JLJarvis@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 06:06:54 -0700   The AGO must be using the Pony Express to save money these days when = sending mail to the West Coast -my April edition of TAO just arrived in the mail yesterday afternoon. Many of the comments over the past couple of weeks = on this topic have not made much sense to me but I chalked that up to not having seen what you all were talking about - now the picture is becoming clearer! I am wondering if any of the other West Coasters on this list received their TAO as late as I did.   I can't wait until July when we will be able to see and hear this organ in person. I am hoping that there will be some sort of session where the members of this list can get together as it would be fun to put faces to names. JJ      
(back) Subject: My newest "favorite" recording (x posted) From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 10:52:07 -0400   Hi, Y'all!   I just purchased a few c.d.'s from the OHS catalogue (ohscatalog.org) and = am thrilled with the new Thierry Escaich recording. It's recorded at = Saint-Etienne-du-Mont, the church where the Durufles played for so long, = and where now is the organist. I have heard him a couple of times as a = service player, and for sure, love his improvisations, but never have = heard him play composed pieces by other composers. This is a "must have" = recording for all organists.   The organ is in tune (if you've heard Olivier Latry's Durufle c.d. you'll = remember how horribly out-of-tune the organ can be) and his playing of the = Durufle music is superb. One French organist told me a couple of years ago = that he thought Escaich is the most brilliant improviser in the world = today! After you hear this c.d., you may agree. I certainly do! It's = absolutely spellbinding music making. The choral singing is by the = Cambridge Voices, and as always, is superb. What makes the improvisations = so special are his "comments" after the sung anthems. He performs the = Tournemire-Durufle "Te Deum" and Victimae Paschali and the Durufle Suite = (all other is improvised).   The name of the recording is Hommage a Maurice Durufle (diacriticals = intentionally left out to protect from the flames and arrows) and the = recording is Caliope CAL 9939.   Trust me on this one . . . just buy it!   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea Nashville  
(back) Subject: Re: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata From: <Gardum@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:02:20 EDT   "The Power and the Glory, Vol 2" Lloyd Holzgraf at First Congo LA M & K Realtime RT 113...........LP recording from 1978   from the jacket: Miller and Kreisel Sound Corporation 8719 Wilshire Blvd. Beverly Hills, CA 90211 (213) 652-8318    
(back) Subject: Re: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 15:34:49 +0100   Dale,   Do a Google search for fletcher "festival toccata" cd and you will find several.   His 'Festal Offertorium' is worth a look too.   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org>; <PIPORG-L@LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:38 AM Subject: Percy Fletcher's "Festival Toccata     > Does anyone know of a recording of Percy Fletcher's FESTIVAL TOCCATA? > > Performer, CD / LP / Cassette, Label, please. > > Thanks > > Dale Rider > Independence, MO >  
(back) Subject: Re: Front of TAO April Edition From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:59:23 EDT   A year or 2 ago when this organ was being talked about on these lists, = many folks mentioned the look of french fries.   Probably this was mentioned, but I think the facade looks more like search =   lights, a la Hollywood gala openings and the like.   Neil Brown    
(back) Subject: Hi From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT)   Just saying hi to everyone and a continued thanks for calls and emails. How was everyones Easter? Anyone get vacation time? Now a question on programming concerts. What exactly are your goals when you are playing a public concert or = recital? And learning Whats your favorite way to learn? I often have issues with learning in set ways because I have a desire and = liking for hte great music AFTER 1850, so I often feel there is little = music before 1850 that I can put my heart into. D     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th  
(back) Subject: Past issues of Chorister Guild magazine/Thanks for Introit suggestions From: "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:03:01 -0500   Hello Folk!   Would anyone be interested in past issues of Chorister Guild=20 magazine? For the price of postage, the first response gets 'em. About= =20 13 years worth; I'm hoping someone can use them. They made all the=20 difference when I was youth music director at NSUMC. Also thanks for your= =20 Easter tide Introit suggestions - I realize (duh!) that I can use the=20 Easter Introit suggestions you gave me before, since they apply to Easter=20 Tide... so I have more than enough now... thanks again - you guys are *the= =20 *best!   Last, time for a smile after Holy Hell Week. Here you go. From The Art of= =20 Singing (Email) Newsletter, which you can subscribe to (free, of course)=20 from "Marc Innes" <marcinnes@marcinnes.com>.   Fran From Chilly Chicago Organist, NSUMC, Glencoe, IL   "Do I Ever Get To Finish The Widor?"   The church I was playing for had just gotten a new pipe organ to replace an old, tired, undersized electronic. It wasn't really a big thing but, typical of early 1970s products, was screechy and bright. Quite a contrast from the boomy old Baldwin Model 5.   I was "cranking it" for the postlude. Right in the middle of the piece an old man - one of the deacons - came tearing down the aisle and bellowed at me over full organ, "Turn that confounded thing down!" So I did. Turned it off in fact. As Ken did, I shut down the blower, slid the roll top down, changed my shoes and left. That week I got a letter from the Council advising me to "please use less ensemble [sic] of the organ when playing for Sunday services."   "Whatever."   And nearly an identical thing happened in another church where I subbed for a Saturday afternoon mass. Similarly, this church had also gotten a new organ -- but in this case, a bigggg 3-manual digital replaced an old, decrepit, wheezing, 2-manual pipe organ of 8 or 9 stops, where nearly every stop had come from somewhere else.   The "computer organ" was a whole new sound to this church. During the prelude, I playing using foundations 8-4, no mixtures and certainly nowhere near full organ, but I did enjoy using the 32-foot Giddley-Giddley. The whole place set-to shimmering with that oversized Fl=FBte ouverte!   I kept hearing this "aaaarrrrnt - arrrrrrnttt" sound. I figured it was an idiosyncrasy of the organ so I ignored it. Soon, after a few more very annoying "aaaarrrrrrrrnt - arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnttts" I heard someone clomping up the stairs to the organ loft.   A pudgy, overdressed lady, red-faced, out-of-breath, big-hat-askew, clop-clopped across the loft in her tacky white clog-shoes. She hissed at me, her halitosis-breath nearly emitting a green vapor, "Can't you hear the intercom buzzing? The monsignor is signaling you!"   Oh.... The Intercom.   "aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrnt - arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnttt"   Reached behind me, picked up the antiquated intercom-receiver on the low wall of the loft railing with one hand, still playing the other, and sweetly cooed, "Hellllo...?"   "@#$# <mailto:#%#@$%@$>#%#@$%@$ @#@#$#@%##@$=20 <mailto:%25&*##%#@$%@$>%&*##%#@$%@$@#* <mailto:#%#@$%@$%#*#@#*$>#%#@$%@$%#*#@#*$!!!" An issue of some of the finest profanity I've ever heard blared forth from the receiver. I literally had to pull the receiver away from my ear.   The monsignor bellowed so loud that I could actually hear his voice wafting down the nave from the sacristy, "TURN THAT <mailto:##@@#$>##@@#$ <mailto:#$@#@#$>#$@#@#$@#=20 <mailto:%25@#@#$#%#@$%@$#@$>%@#@#$#%#@$%@$#@$#@ organ DOWN!" What the @#@%@# @#@#%#@$%@$#$@#@ <mailto:$#@%#%#@$%@$@#@#@#$>$#@%#%#@$%@$@#@#@#$= =20 is wrong with you? Are you @#@%#%#@$%@$@# @#@#$@#%#@$%@$@# DEAF???"   Well, no, I was not deaf at all. I could hear quite well. Bug-eyed, the clopping lady watched in horror as I flipped the off-switch, closed the top, turned off the lights in the loft, changed my shoes, gathered my music satchel and made my way to the stairway. She sputtered, spewing little bits of spittle from her horsey dentures, "Where are you going?"   I said, "Tel Msgr. that I 'turned it down.'"   And off I went.   To my surprise, a check from the church arrived in the mail a few days later. Never did get called back over there to sub, however.      
(back) Subject: Re: Front of TAO April Edition From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:09:19 -0700 (PDT)     OH MY!   Search lights! THATS IT!   It looks like search lights!   I bet that Frank Ghery is laughing at all those who call it french fries           From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th  
(back) Subject: Re: Hi From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:09:32 EDT   In a message dated 4/14/2004 2:02:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes: What exactly are your goals when you are playing a public concert or = recital SOMETHING FOR EVERYONE not just for me   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Hi From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:21:56 EDT     > What exactly are your goals when you are playing a public concert or > recital? > For me the first thing questions are... who is the audience? what is the nature of the concert/recital? Is it an organ dedication? part of a fine = arts festival? part of an AGO convention? Each of these MAY warrant a unique = approach to repertoire.   Secondly, on what type of instrument will the concert/recital be played?   My goals are to have musical integrity but also to tickle the ears of the listeners. I hope that they are moved in SOME way. I also like to = explore as many of the colors on the instrument as is possible, and as appropriate to = the literature.   As to pre-1850 music, I have grown in my appreciation of it. And the possibilities are endless.   My 2 farthings worth.   Neil by the still rainy bay      
(back) Subject: Re: Past issues of Chorister Guild magazine/Thanks for Introit suggestions From: "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:30:04 -0700 (PDT)   Greetings...   I couldn't help chuckling a bit about your anecdote re: the monsignor...   I was once playing a Saturday Mass for a Roman Catholic Church which shall be unnamed... The priest (God rest his soul, has passed away) for some reason was a bit late in starting Mass, which was very unusual for him... At any rate, I remember playing a few Preludes, the last of which was Marcello's, "The Heaven's Declare the Glory of God." I was able to end that majestic prelude just as he got to the altar... he then went to wherever the Sanctus bell was and then rang it three times --- "bong, bong, bong!" I assume he thought my last Prelude was a bit too noisy... although I think others in the congregation enjoyed it.   He may have been annoyed at me that Saturday... but on the other hand, on other Saturday evenings he was *very* happy when I would play Gregorian-based hymns, e. g., Of the Father's Love Begotten, Humbly We Adore Thee, etc., and also various parts of the Gregorian mass found in a hymnbook inside the organ bench... or other pieces with a Gregorian melody, e. g. by Everett Titcomb...   Memories...   Best wishes to all,     Morton Belcher fellow list member...   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     --- Fran Walker <fwalker@northwestern.edu> wrote: > > Fran From Chilly Chicago > Organist, NSUMC, Glencoe, IL > > And nearly an identical thing happened in another > church > where I subbed for a Saturday afternoon mass. > Similarly, > this church had also gotten a new organ -- but in > this case, > a bigggg 3-manual digital replaced an old, decrepit, > wheezing, 2-manual pipe organ of 8 or 9 stops, where > nearly > every stop had come from somewhere else. > > The "computer organ" was a whole new sound to this > church. > During the prelude, I playing using foundations 8-4, > no > mixtures and certainly nowhere near full organ, but > I did > enjoy using the 32-foot Giddley-Giddley. The whole > place > set-to shimmering with that oversized Fl=FBte ouverte! > > I kept hearing this "aaaarrrrnt - arrrrrrnttt" > sound. I > figured it was an idiosyncrasy of the organ so I > ignored > it. Soon, after a few more very annoying > "aaaarrrrrrrrnt - > arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnttts" I heard someone clomping up > the > stairs to the organ loft. > > A pudgy, overdressed lady, red-faced, out-of-breath, > big-hat-askew, clop-clopped across the loft in her > tacky > white clog-shoes. She hissed at me, her > halitosis-breath > nearly emitting a green vapor, "Can't you hear the > intercom > buzzing? The monsignor is signaling you!" > > Oh.... The Intercom. > > "aaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrnt - > arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnttt" > > Reached behind me, picked up the antiquated > intercom-receiver on the low wall of the loft > railing with > one hand, still playing the other, and sweetly > cooed, > "Hellllo...?" > > "@#$# <mailto:#%#@$%@$>#%#@$%@$ @#@#$#@%##@$ > <mailto:%25&*##%#@$%@$>%&*##%#@$%@$@#* > <mailto:#%#@$%@$%#*#@#*$>#%#@$%@$%#*#@#*$!!!" An > issue of some of the finest > profanity I've ever heard blared forth from the > receiver. I > literally had to pull the receiver away from my ear. > > The monsignor bellowed so loud that I could actually > hear > his voice wafting down the nave from the sacristy, > "TURN > THAT <mailto:##@@#$>##@@#$ <mailto:#$@#@#$>#$@#@#$@# > > <mailto:%25@#@#$#%#@$%@$#@$>%@#@#$#%#@$%@$#@$#@ > organ DOWN!" What > the @#@%@# @#@#%#@$%@$#$@#@ > <mailto:$#@%#%#@$%@$@#@#@#$>$#@%#%#@$%@$@#@#@#$ > is wrong > with you? Are you @#@%#%#@$%@$@# @#@#$@#%#@$%@$@# > DEAF???" > > Well, no, I was not deaf at all. I could hear quite > well. > Bug-eyed, the clopping lady watched in horror as I > flipped > the off-switch, closed the top, turned off the > lights in the > loft, changed my shoes, gathered my music satchel > and made > my way to the stairway. She sputtered, spewing > little bits > of spittle from her horsey dentures, "Where are you > going?" > > I said, "Tel Msgr. that I 'turned it down.'" > > And off I went. > > To my surprise, a check from the church arrived in > the mail > a few days later. Never did get called back over > there to > sub, however. >       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Hi From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 11:30:54 -0700 (PDT)   Dale did you get your music? if so, how do you like it?     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th  
(back) Subject: New Website - Temple Organs From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 20:04:27 -0600   Good Evening, PipeChatters: You are invited to visit our new website for www.TempleOrgans.com This is our first splash into the world wide wonder, and we are excited about sharing our heritage with you. Our leader, David Cool, would love to hear from you. If you want to find out about what we can do for you, fill out the Request for Information form and send it in. If you just want to pick our brains about a particular subject, pop me an E-mail at our pipe chat address: Principal8@verizon.net We answer all E-mail. By the way, for those on line who like to build up their own wind blown pipe organs at home, check out the little Wicks that David Cool listed: www.ChurchOrganTrader.com We are making a strong move into our second generation of organ building. If you want a fine pipe organ, give us a call. F. Richard Burt Temple Organs Southwest Representative, .. . . anywhere South or West ..      
(back) Subject: Kadak pallet valves From: "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 21:46:48 -0400   Hi, List:   While looking for pallet valves for an upcoming project, I came across the following: http://www.kadak-inc.com/action01.shtml   Has anyone had direct experience with this product? Please let me know off-list.   Jan S. Van Der Stad    
(back) Subject: Organist Search From: <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:32:14 EDT   Hi Everyone,   I am in search of professor out of Salt Lake City. Does anyone know = and have contact information for a Dr.James Drake? Last I heard, he was a professor in Utah. Thank you for your time.     Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Yes concertartist.info works, at least for me From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:08:01 -0700 (PDT)   Some people has asked me if The World Concert Artist Site works. It works for me. I think most people don't visit it because its only online right now. I think they have plans to go TAO sometime in the next several mos. D     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th  
(back) Subject: Re: Hi From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:23:57 -0700 (PDT)   Desiree, Have you played any German style organs in the area? There are a couple = you might want to visit in order to get an appreciation for the style of = music. I would suggest the big Brombaugh organ in Springfield, and also = the Taylor and Boody organ in Indianapolis. These organ's basically teach = you the music. It is a great experience if you don't want to fit the bill = for a plane ticket to Cappel, Germany, one of my favorite Arp Schnitger = organs to play.       Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St Champaign, IL 61820 217-390-0158 www.scottmontgomerymusic.net --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th  
(back) Subject: Lemare Andantino From: <Devon3000@aol.com> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:51:57 EDT   Hello everyone,   I've decided to play for a near future concert the "Andantino" of Edwin H. =   Lemare, the main melody of which is also known as "Moonlight and Roses", = though the middle minor key section is not in the song, as far as I know.   I have discovered there are two versions of "Andantino" and they are quite =   different. One I got form the Leupold collection, I believe. The other I =   recently found in an old book I had been given from someone titled the = Hammond Organ Stainer-Hallett Method book, and this version claims that the piece = is "revised version by the composer"! The chord progressions are nicer, and = some different chords in places, but in this revised version the pedal is all sustained instead of like the other version, which has rests, usually on = count 3 & 4. If noone knows any more about this I will be inclined to go for the = revised version, but use the detached pedal as it gives it a lot more interest = than holding the notes out.   Has anyone seen this "revised version"?   It's too bad that the strong association with the popular song prevents me =   from programming it for worship, as it would otherwise be just another = andantino piece. It should be a nice refreshing quiet piece for concert, though.   Thank you all for the nice comments about the newspaper article. The = author let me edit it before publishing, and I decided to let the keyboard thing = ride rather than make it a couple paragraphs longer to explain why the colors = were reversed. I've had articles written by non-organists before that I didn't =   have the luxury of editing, and you can imagine the strange and often = funny perceptions those people have who are unfamiliar with our organic world.   Devon Hollingsworth, in DeKalb, Illiniois