PipeChat Digest #4439 - Friday, April 16, 2004
 
Front of TAO April Edition
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Past issues of Chorister Guild magazine/Thanks for Introit   suggesti
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Lemare Andantino
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
RE: Front of TAO April Edition
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Lemare Andantino
  by <organist@clover.net>
Off topic request
  by "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
RE: Organist Search
  by "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net>
Re: Front of TAO April Edition
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Playing it in Peoria (Illinois, that is! X-posted)
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Lemare Moonlight and Roses: was the tune paid-for or simply  "appropriate
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Paul Jacobs at St. Mary the Virgin 4-24-04
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Front of TAO April Edition From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:05:33 -0400   Good point, except that searchlights don't bend (practically speaking). French fries do. Still a good point. Whatever it's supposed to look like, I love it.   -WG   > <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Wrote: > > A year or 2 ago when this organ was being talked about on these lists, = many > folks mentioned the look of french fries. > > Probably this was mentioned, but I think the facade looks more like = search > lights, a la Hollywood gala openings and the like. > > Neil Brown      
(back) Subject: Re: Past issues of Chorister Guild magazine/Thanks for Introit suggestions From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:13:08 -0400   This has only happened to me once in thirty years of pulling out all the = stops. (Lucky me) It happened during the preludes to a wedding at a Greek = Orthodox church, where I was playing on a vintage Hammond who's fortississimo = couldn't have blown over a house of cards. I guess every parish has it's own = comfort zone.   -WG     > "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu> > > .... > > The monsignor bellowed so loud that I could actually hear > his voice wafting down the nave from the sacristy, "TURN > THAT ##@@#$ #$@#@#$@# > %@#@#$#%#@$%@$#@$#@ organ DOWN!" What > the @#@%@# @#@#%#@$%@$#$@#@ $#@%#%#@$%@$@#@#@#$ > is wrong > with you? Are you @#@%#%#@$%@$@# @#@#$@#%#@$%@$@# DEAF???"      
(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Andantino From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 11:22:45 +0100   Lemare's Andantino was published in 1892 and he died in 1934 so it doesn't seem likely he revised it for the Hammond. It was adapted as the popular song 'Moonlight and Roses' by Neil Moret and Ben Black in 1926 and the middle section lost.   I would always favour an original. The revised version may have 'nicer' chords but are they right for the period and style of the piece ? It is, after all, a piece of Victorian organ music and in an organ concert should be respected as such.   The original version is still available as a single print.   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: <Devon3000@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 10:51 PM Subject: Lemare Andantino     > Hello everyone, > > I've decided to play for a near future concert the "Andantino" of Edwin = H. > Lemare, the main melody of which is also known as "Moonlight and Roses", though > the middle minor key section is not in the song, as far as I know. > > I have discovered there are two versions of "Andantino" and they are = quite > different. One I got form the Leupold collection, I believe. The other = I > recently found in an old book I had been given from someone titled the Hammond > Organ Stainer-Hallett Method book, and this version claims that the = piece is > "revised version by the composer"! The chord progressions are nicer, = and some > different chords in places, but in this revised version the pedal is all > sustained instead of like the other version, which has rests, usually on count 3 & 4. > If noone knows any more about this I will be inclined to go for the revised > version, but use the detached pedal as it gives it a lot more interest than > holding the notes out. > > Has anyone seen this "revised version"? > > It's too bad that the strong association with the popular song prevents = me > from programming it for worship, as it would otherwise be just another andantino > piece. It should be a nice refreshing quiet piece for concert, though. > > Thank you all for the nice comments about the newspaper article. The author > let me edit it before publishing, and I decided to let the keyboard = thing ride > rather than make it a couple paragraphs longer to explain why the colors were > reversed. I've had articles written by non-organists before that I = didn't > have the luxury of editing, and you can imagine the strange and often funny > perceptions those people have who are unfamiliar with our organic world. > > Devon Hollingsworth, in DeKalb, Illiniois >    
(back) Subject: RE: Front of TAO April Edition From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:01:35 -0500   I received an email last week from Jim Thomashower at AGO re: the late distribution of TAO this month.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of John Jarvis Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 8:07 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Front of TAO April Edition   The AGO must be using the Pony Express to save money these days when sending mail to the West Coast -my April edition of TAO just arrived in the mail yesterday afternoon. Many of the comments over the past couple of weeks on this topic have not made much sense to me but I chalked that up to not having seen what you all were talking about - now the picture is becoming clearer! I am wondering if any of the other West Coasters on this list received their TAO as late as I did.=20   I can't wait until July when we will be able to see and hear this organ in person. I am hoping that there will be some sort of session where the members of this list can get together as it would be fun to put faces to names. JJ     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Andantino From: <organist@clover.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 16:09:56 -0500   On 14 Apr 2004 at 17:51, Devon3000@aol.com wrote:   > Has anyone seen this "revised version"?   No. I have it in a book, but it's in C. I think the original is in = D-flat, isn't it? It's also popular in string books. I also have it in a couple of cello books. It actually works very well as arranged for cello and piano.   > It's too bad that the strong association with the popular song > prevents me from programming it for worship...   Why? It's a lovely piece. It was extremely popular in it's day, which is probably why someone pinched the tune tor "Moonlight and Roses." I would put it in the bulletin with it's correct title, and = if someone says anything, you have an opportunity to educate them.   It's more likely, however, that no one will even notice.   Best wishes, Mike        
(back) Subject: Off topic request From: "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:53:30 -0700   If anyone on Pipe Chat lives in or near Gastonia, North Carolina, could = you reply privately, bnorth@intergate.ca Many thanks!!  
(back) Subject: RE: Organist Search From: "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 15:44:59 -0700   Good afternoon,   Dr. Drake is Professor of Organ at Utah State in Logan. Very fine = Holtkamp there.   Regards,   Mark S. Towne Sub Dean, Southern Nevada Chapter, AGO   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Rachmaninoff45@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 2:32 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Organist Search     Hi Everyone,   I am in search of professor out of Salt Lake City. Does anyone = know and have contact information for a Dr.James Drake? Last I heard, he was a professor in Utah. Thank you for your time.     Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Re: Front of TAO April Edition From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:02:54 -0500   I finally got around to reading the article. Sounds pretty cool. The = organ makes some daring tonal maneuvers too, it looks like. Whether you like = the way it looks or not, a lot of kids (and adults too) will think its cool = and become organists or organ music afficiados as a result. This is good. = This is the way we need to be thinking as organists, music directors, builders, =   and technicians. "What can we be doing to make the public think the organ =   is the way-coolest thing going?" This is a good start.       On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 08:05:33 -0400, Walter Greenwood wrote > Good point, except that searchlights don't bend (practically > speaking). French fries do. Still a good point. Whatever it's > supposed to look like, I love it. > > -WG > > > <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Wrote: > > > > A year or 2 ago when this organ was being talked about on these lists, =   many > > folks mentioned the look of french fries. > > > > Probably this was mentioned, but I think the facade looks more like search > > lights, a la Hollywood gala openings and the like. > > > > Neil Brown > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 22:12:11 -0400   On 4/15/04 5:09 PM, "organist@clover.net" <organist@clover.net> wrote:   > Why? It's a lovely piece. It was extremely popular in it's day, which = is > probably why someone pinched the tune tor "Moonlight and Roses." I = would put > it in the bulletin with it's correct title, and if someone says = anything, you > have an opportunity to educate them.   I'm glad you said that. I was kind of inclined to say something very similar, but was chicken to put it into words.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:11:10 EDT   Many years ago, when visiting my home church with my mother. the young, = very accomplished organist played an improvisation of "Moon River" for the offertory. It was tastefully played and I think only 2 people (me and my = sister) recognized what it was (and also are probably the only ones that = remembered the incident). People like what they know, whether they recognize the tune or = not. Lee    
(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:54:14 EDT   In a message dated 4/15/2004 11:12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, OMusic@aol.com writes:   > Moon River" for the offertory. It was tastefully played . People like > what they know, whether they recognize the tune or not. Lee   i once played "What I did for Love" for 6 consecutive weeks during the collection at a UCC church before it was discerned. (i was 22 and = brash<G>)   nonetheless people did enjoy it just as Lee states.   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Lemare Moonlight and Roses From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:55:35 EDT   In a message dated 4/15/2004 10:12:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > have an opportunity to educate them. > >   Carlo Curley says the composer sold it for cheap and it became Moonlight = and Roses....so it was legit first.......let us all reclaim it.   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Playing it in Peoria (Illinois, that is! X-posted) From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:41:04 -0500   Dear friends,   I had previously alluded to the fact that there were going to be two upcoming events in Peoria featuring Organist Thomas Trenney this weekend and promised to provide additional information. Here is what i have been able to scare-up thus far:   The first is a Silent film: "Phantom of the Opera, featuring the M=F6ller organ in the Sanctuary of First Baptist Church. 411 W. Lake Ave. at 7:30 PM on Friday evening, April 16.   He will also appear in Recital on the Lancashire-Marshall Organ in St. Martin de Porres Church, 103 S. Richard Pryor Place on Sunday afternoon, April 18 at 3:30 P.M.   I do know that these are both ticketed events, but unfortunately, I have not been able to ascertain the admission prices. If I am able to find th= is information out in a timely manner, I will post additional information accordingly.   I'll be happy to visit with anyone who cares to introduce themselves to m= e at either event. I'll be wearing a light blue dress shirt with my company's name and logo on it.   Best wishes from:   --=20 Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS  
(back) Subject: Lemare Moonlight and Roses: was the tune paid-for or simply "appropriated?" From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 23:54:51 -0500   Dale in Florida wrote:   > Carlo Curley says the composer sold it for cheap and it became > Moonlight and Roses....   I don't know if this is true. I recall a PIPEDREAMS program where Michael Barone made use of this piece. If my memory serves correctly, I seem to recall that the impression was that the song was simply "appropriated" without any royalties or what-not being paid. Unthinkable in this day and age, but back then. . .   Maybe Michael himself will weigh-in and set the record (and my memory!) straight if I am not remembering this information accurately.   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS  
(back) Subject: Paul Jacobs at St. Mary the Virgin 4-24-04 From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 02:27:20 -0400   Dear Listfriends and Other Friends,   Imagine my delight at opening up the "Juilliard Journal" for this month = and finding an Organist on the cover, picture and all! From the subject = heading of this posting, you will know that it is Paul Jacobs, now, at 27, = certainly one of the Juilliard School's youngest faculty members. I learned some things I did not know about Paul from this article. One was that he = carried a double major at Curtis, as a Bachelor's Degree student - Organ and Harpsichord. This says a great deal about the breadth of his understanding of the Keyboard and its music. I also did not know that Paul serves as Organist/Choirmaster at Christ and St. Stephen's Church. You will also = learn from the article some details of the "marathons" he has performed, as in Complete Works of Bach" and "Complete Works of Messiaen," and you will = also learn about a marathon as yet unperformed (Reger), but in the planning stages.   The article has appeared in connection with Paul's complete Messiaen performance one week from Saturday, on the 24th of April, at The Church of St. Mary the Virgin. It will begin at 1:30 p.m., and the last of six segments begins at 8:15 p.m.   I am grateful to Ms. Lisa Yelon of the Publications Department of = Juilliard for her permission to post this article and picture. I am also grateful to Bryan Lohr, a third year student at Juilliard, whose story is full of insight and style.   Herewith, the URL. Please enjoy this and possibly the Messiaen also, if = you happen to be in the vicinity of NYC.   The complete article can be seen at http://www.juilliard.edu/update/journal/j_articles240.html   From this, you can also backspace to other materials in the Journal.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com