PipeChat Digest #4444 - Tuesday, April 20, 2004
 
Re: PIPE ORGAN ON EBAY - the fallout continues to fall [x-posted]
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Reuter Pipe Organ #822
  by "nycchelsea@yahoo.com" <nycchelsea@yahoo.com>
X-post RE: PIPE ORGAN ON EBAY - the fallout continues to fall
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Vocabulary question
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: Vocabulary question
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
Re: Vocabulary question
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Yarmouth Nova Scotia
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Yarmouth Nova Scotia
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: "OLD CHURCH PIPE ORGAN - 2 MANUALS, 8 RANKS, 27 STOPS" on eBay... [x-
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Our Savior's, Milwaukee, Program Report and Audio Sample
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Nova Scotia Pipe Organs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Vocabulary question
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
I have # 1354
  by <pthibaul@maine.rr.com>
Re: Vocabulary question answer(s)
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: "Gems in the Rough" [x-posted]
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Nova Scotia Pipe OrgansLong)
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Vocabulary question
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Re: Yarmouth Nova Scotia
  by "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Vocabulary question
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
Re: Yarmouth Nova Scotia -- Zion Baptist
  by "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Vocabulary question
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Our Savior's, Milwaukee, Program Report and Audio Sample
  by <rohrwerk@seboldt.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: PIPE ORGAN ON EBAY - the fallout continues to fall [x-posted] From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:29:35 EDT   In a message dated 4/19/2004 2:06:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, crlester@137.com writes: the organ listed on eBay and you want to have a look at it. The church is called Hope Community Church, at 344 W. Florence Ave., just where the Harbor Freeway crosses over - near Broadway. Isn't this little church the mother of the Crystal Cathedra? I believe I serviced this organ 'way back in the day. clesters assesment (Other than = some of the pipework and the nice little console and the Peterson relay, there is absolutely nothing about it to recommend itself for regular church use) is accurate, if my memory serves.     Steven Skinner Minister of Music First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA    
(back) Subject: Reuter Pipe Organ #822 From: "nycchelsea@yahoo.com" <nycchelsea@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:30:26 -0700 (PDT)   Hi folks,   I've put together a little website on the pipe organ we are presently rewiring and restoring.   http://www.reuter822.com   Mostly just a collection of photographs of the organ with a few VERY POOR quality sound files. As evidenced by the playing I'm NOT an organist and don't pretend to be.   However it does provide a interesting look at a simple 5 rank pipe organ built in 1948.         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25=A2 http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash  
(back) Subject: X-post RE: PIPE ORGAN ON EBAY - the fallout continues to fall From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:41:31 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Thanks Charlie for this mail. It reveals some important points. The change from "traditional" to "modern" in liturgy and its music happened 40 years ago in my country in RC church with desastrous consequences for our (pipe)-Organs. It wasn't the change itself what caused the consequences in question but the attitude of the organists who weren't able to switch = their style and were fired or left their jobs. Only the amateurs remained, and = you get gooseflesh skin from the way they play. As a consequence almost nobody of our local clergy believes that the pipe organ is good for modern church music. What a mistaken appreciation this is! May I quote Charlie:   > Except for a rare few organists, most of us cannot play BOTH > classical AND gospel -- and I mean PLAY WELL - and in the > appropriate styles. Indeed, I know first-hand of but two > such organists. And one of them is me. But that's what most > of these churches want. Either someone who can play both, or > who can play gospel music. That's most-often the preference.   Honestly, we don't use "real" Gospel Music, and I guess it's difficult to adapt to a Victorian Tracker. But it is possible I think, mostly in US-America with her (in-last-minute-rescued) TO. tradition. "Revival" = (here called "Charismatic chants") is possible to play on any pipe organ. I am doing it right now in my parish. Reluctantly. Cringing inwards. But I = must, otherwise I lose my job (with it my only fixed income), and *another* = organ is abandoned.   > Indeed, in most of these cases, the churches really don't > have any desire to be "educated" about why they "MUST" keep > their pipe organs, regardless of condition or merit, and why > they should be using it   The only way to convince the folks in those churches is playing the music they want *on the pipe organ*, and well. Like Charlie did in the Baptist Church.   > I am telling you it is a shameful but > bald-faced truth that inner-city and urban-ethnic churches > typically have a very hard time finding musicians of any > kind or caliber, let alone classically trained organists. > And that's really too bad. Because until you've sat through > a three-hour C.O.G.I.C. revival where the joyful music and > roof-raising preaching "FILLS YOU WITH THE HOLY GHOST," > well, honey, you just haven't been to church!   Here, Charlie expresses the basical problem of all this. It's in the mind! The problem may be the three hours, unless one is "Charismatic" (will say: Revival) oriented. I am not, I confess. Too introvert. Curiosly this seems to be the hallmark of many classically trained organists, and herein lies the problem, I think.   > As far as how much they will get for it is concerned, I can > tell you "confidentially" that the greater concern really is > that they simply be rid of it. Indeed, if it doesn't attract > any bids, it will be removed and sold for scrap to a salvage > company.   This is happening to the oldest Detlef Kleuker Organ in South America, located in Lima, Peru, nevertheless our protests and a "Rescue the Organ"-campaign started by the family who had donated it in 1952. It will = be replaced by a Digital because a) Repair budget for the Kleuker (not from me!) 44.000 Euro; cost of the Digital: 18.000 Euro. 11.000 Euro are available yet, plus what the Junker will pay for the tin pipes and = aluminium parts- you guess. My offer to travel to Lima (4+ flight hours!) without charge excepting flight ticket refund to make an expertise and budget was politely thanked- but not accepted. b) The Digital is considered "more appropriate for modern worship" because of its gadgets. Other backgrounds may be behind this, but I don't know (and don't care about) them.   As long as we pipe organ technicians and our suppliers have to deal with murderous overhead costs (along with other problems like getting personnel with the right abilities- I don't dare to say "properly trained") the pipe organ will become a dying species like dinosaurs indeed. And MY overhead costs are nothing in comparison with USA or Europe. The problem here is = the "Estanflacion": Inflation, paired with general lack of money and business decay, since 1989. My clients simply cannot pay a repair job, nevertheless my charges are a fraction of these from abroad. They neither can pay = repairs of their electriums! More and more churches switch to "plain singing", lately.   > Yes, that makes me very sad. But it's their organ, their > right to do with it as they choose.   I understand Charlie. Every time I think about the Kleuker in Lima or our abandoned historic organs my blood pressure runs havoc. Then, I say: "Why, it's not MY organ". What else can I do- get depressions and make my life = and my family's life a hell?   Cheers Andres -getting depressions, sometimes, nevertheless :(    
(back) Subject: Vocabulary question From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:27:55 -0400   I have been an organist for years, and there has always been something = that I have been confused about. Could someone explain to me the = definition of "rank"? I thought I had a clue what it actually meant, but = then my own theory went out the window after seeing the specs of an organ = and actual pictures of it. The definitions I have found don't help a lot, = so what I'm asking is, in simplest form - what exactly is a "rank"? = Thanks! (I play an Allen, thus the confusion...)   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 14:37:54 -0400   At 02:27 PM 2004-04-19 -0400, you wrote: >I have been an organist for years, and there has always been something >that I have been confused about. Could someone explain to me the >definition of "rank"? I thought I had a clue what it actually meant, but =   >then my own theory went out the window after seeing the specs of an organ =   >and actual pictures of it. The definitions I have found don't help a = lot, >so what I'm asking is, in simplest form - what exactly is a >"rank"? Thanks! (I play an Allen, thus the confusion...) > >Justin Karch >Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS >Rome, GA   Justin,   Think of a rank as being a single set of pipes, one for each note on the keyboard. In a unified organ a rank may be extended beyond the 61 notes = to 73 or 85.   Compound stops such as mixtures if they are 3 ranks, would mean 3 pipes = per note or 183 to cover a 61 note keyboard.   I know this is as clear as mud, but I hope you can see my point.   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:36:31 -0700 (PDT)       To the best of my knowledge: A rank is one complete set of pipes, meaning one row. A 8' Montre or 8' = Principal is a rank of pipes. If you take a mixture stop, say a Fourniture IV or Cornet II, the roman = numeral tells you how many ranks are in this stop. So the Fourniture = would have 4 ranks and the Cornet would have 2. Again, ranks are individual sets of pipes, not to be confused with stops, = that are the general names of the pipe sounds. An example would be an = organ with 20 stops and 24 ranks, meaning that at least one stop has more = than one rank of pipes associated with it. Does this help?       Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St Champaign, IL 61820 217-390-0158 www.scottmontgomerymusic.net --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25=A2  
(back) Subject: Yarmouth Nova Scotia From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 15:48:42 -0400   If St. Thomas is the name of the Catholic Church, it had a Casavant. But not Zion Baptist. The oldest two Casavants in Nova Scotia listed are Halifax St. Patrice = 1898 and Yarmouth Providence Methodist 1899. I don't have the Opus of the Yarmouth Catholic Church, but it is sometime after 1930. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: Yarmouth Nova Scotia From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:07:58 -0300   St Patrick s Catholic Church is still there,Im certain the Organ is there too although unplayable.? Almost directly accross but down a little bit From St. Georges Round Church on Brunswick St. For how much longer, the question is. Recent news on TV has it that St Patricks future is uncertain. It is a Gothic Styled red Brick Structure, with a beautiful I mean Beautiful interior. This buildings future may include demolition. In Yarmouth the Catholic Church is St. Ambrose Danielwh    
(back) Subject: Re: "OLD CHURCH PIPE ORGAN - 2 MANUALS, 8 RANKS, 27 STOPS" on eBay... [x-posted] From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:21:19 -0400     On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:56:01 -0700 Charlie Lester <crlester@137.com> writes:   > http: //cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3718728445 > > [remove space after "http:" then cut/paste into browser, or > vice-versa. whatever works... Pipechat server would not let > me insert the URL as a link]           If you remove the space after the "http", it should work. (see below)   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3718728445  
(back) Subject: Re: Our Savior's, Milwaukee, Program Report and Audio Sample From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:36:01 -0400   On 4/19/04 8:34 AM, "rohrwerk@seboldt.net" <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> (John Sebold of Milwaukee) wrote:   > Enjoy!   John: I just did. Liked it enough to do it again! You filled my dining room with better acoustics than I=B9m used to.   Thank you.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Nova Scotia Pipe Organs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 16:53:21 -0400   On 4/19/04 12:06 PM, "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:   > Hope you may have some info   Y'know, I don't know from nothing about such things. Physically unable to help if I did. But just listening to you guys talk about this detective work is a PICNIC!   TONS of fun to all those concerned; I=B9m confident it is. .   Alan, among the jealous    
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 17:33:59 -0500   Simple enough ... however, how does one "count" the ranks of say a = Mixture IV-V stop?   Thanks,   Tim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scott Montgomery=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Vocabulary question         To the best of my knowledge:   A rank is one complete set of pipes, meaning one row. A 8' Montre or = 8' Principal is a rank of pipes. =20   If you take a mixture stop, say a Fourniture IV or Cornet II, the = roman numeral tells you how many ranks are in this stop. So the = Fourniture would have 4 ranks and the Cornet would have 2.   Again, ranks are individual sets of pipes, not to be confused with = stops, that are the general names of the pipe sounds. An example would = be an organ with 20 stops and 24 ranks, meaning that at least one stop = has more than one rank of pipes associated with it.   Does this help?     Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St Champaign, IL 61820 217-390-0158 www.scottmontgomerymusic.net     -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -----   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25=A2     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 4/19/2004  
(back) Subject: I have # 1354 From: <pthibaul@maine.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:00:26 -0400     Op. 1354 lives in Cumberland Maine now=3D=3Dthe case is at St. David's = Episcopal Church--they built a new building--took the case--David Wallace = took out the 7 rank Estey and put in a 5 rank Kilgen.....I have all the = tubular pneumatic chests and pipework (except the case Op Diapason)--the = Haskell basses make it fit in a residence really well   I would love to have a set of the original drawings--WOW what an = opportunity! Let me know the charge for copying and handling and stuff....     I would love to visit the Estey museum soon!   Phil Thibault 8295684 PO Box 413 Cumberland ME 04021     ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Stimmel <pca@sover.net> Date: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:21 pm Subject: Estey Drawings - Cross-posted   > I have recently come into the possession of over 600 architect's > line drawings of the facades of Estey pipe organs. > These are the original drawings made in preparation for the > building of the pipe facades. It appears that Estey may have made > use of numerous "standard" designs. However, many of these > drawings are identified by opus number or church name. In some > instances there are 2-3 drawings for a given church, perhaps > indicating possible variations on the case design. > > These drawings would be wonderful if matted and framed. I am > willing to make copies for anyone who might be interested. Please > drop me a line with any requsts you may have, and I'll be glad to > see if I have a drawing for you. > > Phil Stimmel > pca@sover.net > www.esteyorgan.com >    
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question answer(s) From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:04:05 EDT   Try the September 2003 issue of The American Organist magazine, pages = 63-64, for an article entitled, "Rnks, Stops, Voices, and Registers". Many of = your questions can be answered there.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City ..  
(back) Subject: Re: "Gems in the Rough" [x-posted] From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 20:21:34 EDT   In a message dated 4/19/2004 12:22:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, crlester@137.com writes: The Great Diapason 8' has WOOD basses - the bottom octave and a half or so. The lowest couple of pipes are knuckled. When was the last time you saw a wood 8-foot Diapason?! FWIW, I have 2 8' Diapason sets, both M P Moller, both from the mid-late 1920's both on 5 inch wind pressure that have wood bottom octaves (12 = pipes), and they are both unmitred at present. I also used to play a rebuilt = Moller/Wetsel pipe organ that had this same type of 12 wood pipes for the bottom octave = of the Great division principal (diapason).   Rick in VA    
(back) Subject: Re: Nova Scotia Pipe OrgansLong) From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:27:17 -0300   Re: Nova Scotia Pipe OrgansNova Scotia Listers I am also looking into finding out info about a Pipe Organ in an old = Church on North Mountain in the Annapolis Valley. How I sort of heard of thsi instrument was when I was dismanteling the = one I have , the Person I aqqired mine from told me about it . All he = knew was that the Organ was not used and the church was no longer used = as a church,but a hall for the community. the Organ was left there as = sort of a Backdrop. I have tonight emailed the personI got my Organ from to see if he knows = if the Organ is still there and if so, who built it. I take from what I remember , it is another small 1 manual( but I could = be wrong) THere is so much history of Pipe Organs in this province. Its a shame = it wasnt written down   Another interesting thing I noticed today while surfing the US = patent Webpage. On one of the pages a name kind of took my attention. while looking at = the Haskell Patents of 1910 one of the witnesses on one of the patent = pages of the drawings was Frank A. Peters Could this be the F.A. Peters that was active in Organ building around = 1896 in Saint John, New Brunswick that acted as a wittness to the = drawing of one of the haskel designs????   =20 F.A . Peters was one of the guys who built My Pipe Organ as well as = Dave Miltons Pipe Organ =20 Peter Organ Company Paine & Peters Paine& Wetmore My Organ was built by Paine & Wetmore I dont know how Wetmore fit in the picture, but htat is what I found = inside sticker on the keyboardweight bar But in the Newspaper Article of many years past Paine & Peters was = established in 1882 The Organ i have was built in 1881 so Paine & Wetmore must have been = the name up untill 1882. Paine retired the following year in 1883 then the Peter Organ Company = was formed .It seems that my Organ was one of the smaller ones built by = that company They built fine Parlour Pipe Organs and Church Organs. He = built A 3 Manual 21 speaking stops Pipe Organ for the Mission Church = of Saint John Baptist( Replaced in 1938 by a Casavant)   Here is a bit of an exerpt from the Newspaper clipping: "He occupies a two storey building 25 by 80 feet in dimensions , fitted = up with every appliance necessary, an eight -horse power engine = supplying the motive force,employment being furnished to some seven = hands. Mr Peters manufactures both church and Parlour Pipe Organs. They are = specially renowned for their tone,which,in foundation stops, is a = purediapason qualityof a full and resonant character, and in the solo = stops is one of marked peculiarity, varying from the delicate string = effect of the Gemshorn and Dulciana to the deep pervading Bourdon and = smooth and liquid Melodia and Flute. The best materialavailable is used = in the construction of these organs,every part of which is made = specially with a view to withstand changes of climate and temperature. = These organs are highly commended by amateurs and professionals.Mr = Peters is a native of St. John, and is in every way a thoroughmaster of = his buisness, in which he is deserving all of success."     hope you all enjoyes thsi tidbit of history Danielwh    
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT)   I believe you would count that as 6 ranks. You wouldn't say that a = celeste or a sesqualtera stop that starts at tenor C is only 4/5ths of a = rank.   Octaaf <octaaf@charter.net> wrote:Simple enough ... however, how does one = "count" the ranks of say a Mixture IV-V stop? Thanks, Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Montgomery To: PipeChat Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Vocabulary question         To the best of my knowledge: A rank is one complete set of pipes, meaning one row. A 8' Montre or 8' = Principal is a rank of pipes. If you take a mixture stop, say a Fourniture IV or Cornet II, the roman = numeral tells you how many ranks are in this stop. So the Fourniture = would have 4 ranks and the Cornet would have 2. Again, ranks are individual sets of pipes, not to be confused with stops, = that are the general names of the pipe sounds. An example would be an = organ with 20 stops and 24 ranks, meaning that at least one stop has more = than one rank of pipes associated with it. Does this help?       Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St Champaign, IL 61820 217-390-0158 www.scottmontgomerymusic.net   ---------------------------------   Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25=A2   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.661 / Virus Database: 424 - Release Date: 4/19/2004     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25=A2  
(back) Subject: Re: Yarmouth Nova Scotia From: "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:29:52 -0300     On Monday, April 19, 2004, at 05:07 PM, Daniel Hopkins wrote:   > St Patrick s Catholic Church is still there,Im certain the Organ is > there > too although unplayable.?   I have a friend who works with Casavant in the US but visits here in Nova Scotia. He visited St. Patrick's last summer and said it needs some work but is in reasonable repair.   > Almost directly accross but down a little bit > From St. Georges Round Church on Brunswick St. > For how much longer, the question is. Recent news on TV has it that St > Patricks future is uncertain. It is a Gothic Styled red Brick > Structure, > with a beautiful I mean Beautiful interior. This buildings future may > include demolition.   There hasn't been much talk about shutting down churches since the diocese held their big press conference a few weeks ago. One wonders whether it had more to do with posturing than actually closing buildings, but there certainly is a risk. One of the sad parts is that St. Patrick's is such a beautiful building but is guilty of being in the "wrong" part of town and is, therefore, not well attended.   Regards, Andrew Barss Halifax, Nova Scotia    
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:38:15 -0400     A rank of pipes represents one pipe for each key on the keyboard.   61 note keyboard, 61 pipes.   However, pipes can be shared between keyboards - duplexing.   And also within the keyboard itself - Unification.   If a rank has 73 pipes or more it is a giveaway that that rank is used for more than one stop on the keyboard.   -- noel jones, aago noeljones@frogmusic.com |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| moderator, rodgers organ users group at frog music press publishing music, midi and users manuals for the rodgers organ 1 877-249-5251 toll free athens, tn, usa users group & the frog web site: www.frogmusic.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Yarmouth Nova Scotia -- Zion Baptist From: "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 23:41:07 -0300     On Monday, April 19, 2004, at 04:48 PM, Judy A. Ollikkala wrote:   > If St. Thomas is the name of the Catholic Church, it had a Casavant.=20=   > But > not Zion Baptist.   Zion had a second-hand pipe organ that was comprised of odds and sods=20 from I-don't-know-where.   I played the pipe organ around 1987 (just before it was replaced) and=20 it was in such poor repair that (literally) notes would sound one time=20=   you played them but not the next. You couldn't predict which stops=20 would work -- one time you pulled them they'd be fine, the next they=20 wouldn't work at all. That organ was not very big, perhaps about 10-12=20=   ranks?   They had at least two pipe organs in that church. If memory serves, the=20=   first was replaced by a Hammond I think in the 60s. The Hammond was=20 replaced by the organ I played around the early or mid-70s (I'm not at=20=   all sure about that date) and the pipe organ I played was replaced in=20 1987 by an Allen digital that is still there. I'm not certain, but I=20 believe the fa=E7ade pipes were from the first of the pipe organs.   I know that, at the time the Allen went in, the church was extremely=20 frustrated with the maintenance bills and ongoing headache of a pipe=20 organ that wouldn't work properly. I suspect they would have needed to=20=   spend at least $70-80K at that time to properly refurbish the=20 instrument since it desperately needed a new console as well.   Hope that offers some insight.   Andrew Barss Halifax, Nova Scotia=    
(back) Subject: Re: Vocabulary question From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:26:04 -0500   Fair enough, except I think that'd be 5 ranks (understandable roman = numeral error).   On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 18:43:55 -0700 (PDT), Scott Montgomery wrote > I believe you would count that as 6 ranks. You wouldn't say that a > celeste or a sesqualtera stop that starts at tenor C is only 4/5ths > of a rank. > > Octaaf <octaaf@charter.net> wrote:Simple enough ... however, how > does one "count" the ranks of say a Mixture IV-V stop? > > Thanks,       A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Our Savior's, Milwaukee, Program Report and Audio Sample From: <rohrwerk@seboldt.net> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:59:57 -0500   DQoNCk9uIE1vbiwgMTkgQXByIDIwMDQgMTY6MzYgLCBBbGFuIEZyZWVkIDxhY2ZyZWVkMDkw NEBlYXJ0aGxpbmsubmV0PiBzZW50Og0KDQo+Sm9objogIEkganVzdCBkaWQuICBMaWtlZCBp dCBlbm91Z2ggdG8gZG8gaXQgYWdhaW4hICBZb3UgZmlsbGVkIG15IGRpbmluZyByb29tIHdp dGggDQo+YmV0dGVyIGFjb3VzdGljcyB0aGFuIEmSbSB1c2VkIHRvLg0KDQpOb3QgYmFkIGZv ciAxOTUwJ3MgY29uY3JldGUgYmxvY2ssIGVoPyBBbmQgYSBuaWNlIGxlc3Mta25vd24gcGll Y2UsIHRvby4gUGxheWVkDQp0aGUgd2hvbGUgNXRoIHN5bXBob255IGFib3V0IDggeWVhcnMg YWdvLCBhbmQgdGhhdCBvbmUgc3R1Y2sgaW4gbXkgbWluZCBhcyBhIG5pY2UNCm1lZGl1bS1z aXplIHBpZWNlIHdpdGggc29tZSBtZW1vcmFibGUgdHVuZXMgYW5kIHRleHR1cmVzLiANCg0K QSBsb2NhbCBLaWxnZW4gZnJvbSAxOTM4IGhhcyBqdXN0IGJlZW4gcmVub3ZhdGVkIC0gbWF5 IHdhbnQgdG8gZ2V0IG92ZXIgdGhlcmUgYW5kDQp0cnkgdGhpcyBwaWVjZSBvdmVyIHRoZXJl LiAoU3QuIFJvYmVydCBDYXRob2xpYywgU2hvcmV3b29kKS4gU3BlY3RhY3VsYXIgUm9tYW50 aWMNCnNvdW5kLCB3aGljaCBLaWxnZW5zIGNhbiBkbyBpZiB0aGV5J3JlIGdpdmVuIHRoZSBj b3VyYWdlIHRvIHNwZWFrIG91dCB3aXRoDQpzeW1wYXRoZXRpYyByZW5vdmF0aW9uLg0KDQpK b2huIFNlYm9sZHQNCk1pbHdhdWtlZQ0KDQoNCg0K