PipeChat Digest #4453 - Sunday, April 25, 2004
 
Re: Re: Gainesville Organs Part 2
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Gainesville Kinzy-Angerstein
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Kinsey-Angerstein
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Boston (Chestnut Hill) Concert-Organ and Voice
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@comcast.net>
Re: Reverence in Worship
  by "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com>
Re: Gainesville Kinzy-Angerstein
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Accident update
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
RE: Accident update
  by "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net>
Re: Reverence in Worship
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
RE: Kinsey-Angerstein
  by "Mark Hopper" <mlhopper@msn.com>
"Undernotched" keys?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Gainesville Organs Part 2
  by "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com>
Re: wedding: United Church of Christ
  by "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com>
Don Thompson Plays Rochester Wurlitzer on May 8 (cross-posted)
  by "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Creston question
  by "Richard Hazelip" <rhazelip1@yahoo.com>
Re: Reverence in Worship
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Reverence in Worship
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Re: Gainesville Organs Part 2 From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 07:01:30 EDT   >> After lunch, Bruce and I headed to a Lutheran Church (Mo Synod) to see >> Kinzey-Angersteing Opus #7, 1982, a 2 manual tracker organ installed = in >>the rear gallery of an A-frame type sanctuary. Not a large >>instrument...perhaps 20 ranks, but very nice. <snip>   >I don't know how such instruments come into being!! From what you say, >it's a bit of a prize, from a young firm. Is this a builder (with a >horrible name!) that we'll be hearing from more in the coming decade?   Kinzey-Angerstein went out of business building instruments quite a while back, didn't them. Dan Angerstein then went on to work for Moller, and = now lives in North Carolina where he has his own company and does free-lance voicing =   work with different companies. He's done a lot of work in the Charlotte = area, since he claims the Calvary Moller as one of his voicing projects, but in reality, Angerstein set some of the C's. Irv Lawless did the majority of = the voicing at Calvary, since Moller took Angerstein off of the Calvary = project early on. There is a Kinzey-Angerstien practice organ at a local college here, but = I've never heard or played it, so I have no idea what it's like, but I wouldn't =   judge a firm by an organ of just a few ranks. I think that Christ = Lutheran Church in Charlotte has a Kinzey-Angerstein organ, but they have gone predominantly contemporary, and I'm not sure how much the organ is used. = They used to have two contemporary services and one traditional, I'm not sure if that's = what the ratio still is.   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Gainesville Kinzy-Angerstein From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:21:01 -0500   Alan asked about the Kinzy-Angerstein at the Lutheran Church in = Gainesville, Florida. First of all, I butchered the spelling.....I THINK it's right = this time. Someone else on the list will probably know, but I believe that = Kinzy and Angerstein are no longer together......one of the two (Kinzy?) is building organs under his own name. The other, I think, is amiably = retired. This is off the top of my head, but somebody talked about this recently either here or on Pipe Org-L.   In any case, this is a lovely instrument. The keys have that decorative effect of having a fancy upside down V-shape cut out of the underside of each key, and the keyboards had a noticeable crown.   Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats      
(back) Subject: Kinsey-Angerstein From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:07:41 -0400   The Kinsey-Angerstein firm was active in organbuilding - rebuilding etc. = in the 1970's and 1980's. They are no longer in business together, Allan Kinsey is retired and = living in Arizona. I don't know where Angerstein is. Much of their work was in New England. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Boston (Chestnut Hill) Concert-Organ and Voice From: "mack02445" <mack02445@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 10:43:01 -0400   Last night, April 23, 2004, Mr. Michael S. Murray, organist, and Ms. Jayne Tankersley, soprano gave a concert at The Church of the Redeemer in Chestnut Hill Massachusetts the following was the program presented.   J. Cook - Fanfare F. A. Guilmant - Pastorale (Sonata I) G. F. Handel - Where'er you walk J. Langlais - Meditation (Suite Medievale) G. Faure - Pie Jesu (Requiem) J. Bonnet - Variations de Concert - intermission -=3D20 W. A. Mozart - Alleluia (Exultate Jubilate) L. Beethoven, transcribed Michael S. Murray - Pathetique Sonata     Not being an organist, I will not try to critique each piece. Michael = played the organ portions of the program extremely well and all went = surprisingly well on the 3 manual 36 stop Noack Organ, Opus 111. The = organ projects well into the Henry Vaughn Building and was versatile in = registering the organ pieces and also accompanied Ms. Tankersley = beautifully.   Michael's ability as an accompanist is excellent and Ms. Tankersley has a = beautifully clear soprano voice and did more than justice to the pieces = she sang. Michael's transcription of the Beethoven Sonata was well played = and to me carried the character of the piece well. My only regret was = that more people were not fortunate enough to have heard this concert.   Well done Michael and Jayne.   Cheers, Mack          
(back) Subject: Re: Reverence in Worship From: "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 08:10:24 -0700 (PDT)     > Subject: Re: Reverence in Worship > From: <OMusic@aol.com> > Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 11:06:42 EDT   >... More people listen to the Prelude to which the organist is not > aware.   I agree with this. People are sitting out there listening (as best they can over the din). Just the other day a lady stopped her car in the parking lot as she saw me walking to mine and commented on how much she appreciated the prelude music, then proceeded to name a couple of specific titles I'd used recently. This reminded me that some people do listen.   >After 53 years, it really doesn't bother me.   Alas, despite what I said above, it bothers me more as I go along rather than less. To a certain extent I don't blame the people, as in a given church it's likely they've never been exposed to any other way of thinking. As generations come and go, the younger ones practice what they saw their parents do.   To turn it around would take a specific plan of action from the pastor on down. But absent that, I'd at least like to see the use of the idea of calling them to order several minutes early, perhaps having a prayer moment or simply inviting them to "tune their hearts as they prepare for worship."   What I really can't figure out is the greet-each-other time that occurs in my church several minutes after the service starts (or, as an organist once put it, "Howdy doody time..."). With the possible exception that visitors who were left out of the pre-service fellowship get greeted, I have trouble with the idea of lopping more time off the service to do something most of them did for 10 minutes PRIOR to the service!   --Richard Huggins       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6 digital prints for 25=A2 http://photos.yahoo.com/ph/print_splash  
(back) Subject: Re: Gainesville Kinzy-Angerstein From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 11:27:10 -0400   On 4/24/04 9:21 AM, "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> wrote:   > The keys have that decorative effect of having a fancy upside down = V-shape cut > out of the underside of each key, and the keyboards had a noticeable = crown.   Thanks for the info, Dennis. About those keys: I've seen that SOMEwhere, oh, probably twenty years ago or so. I can't member where. Maybe it's = done a little more often than we think? I don't know.   As for the "crown"--I don't know. You mean from left to right, or from = near to far? Oh, wait: You mean, not each key, but the whole keyboard? How would that "feel"?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Accident update From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:52:38 -0300   Were brusied emothionally , Physically and financially Mom and dad are still quite brusied and worried about finances. im very sore in my lower back and wrists The car is a write off, once its considered a write off, the bank immediatly says were in default of the loan as the car was there security of the loan and we must pay the loan off THe canadian Auto Black Book says the car is appraised at 14.5 k at the most we owe 21 k to the bank which leaves a balance of 7k still owing, that =3D 2 years of = $300/month payments on a car we no longer have Everyone Please pray that the insurance company gives us enouth or almost enough = to cover the loan we have Pray hard Please Danielwh    
(back) Subject: RE: Accident update From: "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 12:14:50 -0400   Check you loan papers for "gap" insurance -- and insist that you = understood that you had it. (Who just wrote one car off due to black ice.)   Wm. G. Chapman     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hopkins Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 11:53 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Accident update     Were brusied emothionally , Physically and financially Mom and dad are still quite brusied and worried about finances. im = very sore in my lower back and wrists The car is a write off, once its considered a write off, the bank immediatly says were in default of the = loan as the car was there security of the loan and we must pay the loan off THe canadian Auto Black Book says the car is appraised at 14.5 k at = the most we owe 21 k to the bank which leaves a balance of 7k still owing, that =3D 2 years of = $300/month payments on a car we no longer have Everyone Please pray that the insurance company gives us enouth or almost enough to cover the loan we = have Pray hard Please Danielwh   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Re: Reverence in Worship From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:35:07 EDT   Richard, Our church has our "Howdy Doody" time after the first hymn and prayer. It = is supposed to be a time to greet visitors, however it is bedlam for about 10 =   minutes while the pianist and I play "I Love You With the Love of the = Lord." When the din wears down a bit the Music Director has everyone sing as they = go to their seats. Then we have the Children's story. This is followed by children under 5 going to "Children's Church." It is a typical = traditional Baptist service. The church is very friendly and the pianist very accomplished. = The Music Director is Seminary trained and loves "good" music. We have very little of the contemporary music that is not easily played on the organ. = There are even people who stay to hear the Postlude, when I usually plan on doing a majestic piece from the organ repertoire. I am thankful that at this age = I can still play for services, even giving a few recitals. Eyrline    
(back) Subject: RE: Kinsey-Angerstein From: "Mark Hopper" <mlhopper@msn.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 13:37:55 -0400   Dan Angerstein is now in Hendersonville, NC. He collaborates tonally with Cornell Zimmer Organbuilders in Denver, NC, and with Schleuter in Georgia.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Judy A. Ollikkala Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 10:08 AM To: pipechat Subject: Kinsey-Angerstein     The Kinsey-Angerstein firm was active in organbuilding - rebuilding etc. = in the 1970's and 1980's. They are no longer in business together, Allan Kinsey is retired and = living in Arizona. I don't know where Angerstein is. Much of their work was in New England. Judy Ollikkala "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: "Undernotched" keys? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:12:35 -0400   On 4/24/04 11:27 AM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote:   > About those keys: I've seen that SOMEwhere, > oh, probably twenty years ago or so. I can't member where. Maybe it's = done > a little more often than we think? I don't know.   I think it popped into my head. Was it the Taylor & Boody at St. Thomas, Fifth Ave.?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Gainesville Organs Part 2 From: "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:42:50 -0700 (PDT)   If memory serves Dan Angerstein was one of the last tonal directors of Moller in the early 90s.   There is a tremendous instrument in First Methodist in Corpus Christi that was rebuilt by him. The instrument has a terraced console, and has other touches after Cavaille-Coll, and does a beautiful job on French Romantic literature. It also did justice to Sowerby (I was blown away by a rendition of the Carillon).   When I say this instrument is tremendous it is simply because people I have met that aren't organ buffs but have heard this instrument speak of it in superlative terms!   I also believe Angerstein rebuilt an Aeolian Skinner which can be heard on a Catherine Crozier CD published by Delos records: St. John's chapel at Groton school:   http://www.delosmus.com/item/de30/de3075.html   -Billious   --- Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: > On 4/23/04 9:38 PM, "First Christian Church of Casey, > Illinois" > <kzrev@rr1.net> wrote: > > > After lunch, Bruce and I headed to a Lutheran Church (Mo > Synod) to see > > Kinzey-Angersteing Opus #7, 1982, a 2 manual tracker organ > installed in the > > rear gallery of an A-frame type sanctuary. Not a large > instrument...perhaps > > 20 ranks, but very nice. Short keys, but nice action and a > nice "feel" to the > > keys which were a dark wood. Sounds like one would expect > a good Lutheran > > organ to sound! I enjoyed this one, and Bruce says it has > always been one of > > his favorites. > > I don't know how such instruments come into being!! From > what you say, > it's a bit of a prize, from a young firm. Is this a builder > (with a > horrible name!) that we'll be hearing from more in the coming > decade? > > Not expecting big-deal crystal ball answer; just wondering. > > Alan >     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D    
(back) Subject: Re: wedding: United Church of Christ From: "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 17:48:24 -0700 (PDT)   I'm going to venture a guess that the song is "At last my love is found", which is a lovely ballad, with sweet lyrics, and sung soulfully but still in an understated manner. I can think of worse things to play.   I'd recommend getting the specifics of the song from the bride and then review it at a library. Its always best to be armed with the facts before one goes to battle.   -Bill  
(back) Subject: Don Thompson Plays Rochester Wurlitzer on May 8 (cross-posted) From: "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 22:18:47 -0400   The Rochester Theater Organ Society is pleased to announce Don Thompson's ninth performance on our Auditorium Theatre Wurlitzer. Don will play the RTOS 4/23 on Saturday, May 8 starting at 8 PM. The refurbished Auditorium Theatre is located at 875 East Main Street in Rochester, NY 14605. = Admission is only $15 each with tickets available at the Box Office during the hour preceding the concert.   For information about the concert, Don Thompson's biography, driving directions, organ specifications and lots of pictures and more please = visit the RTOS website at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ . Please join us = for a wonderful springtime evening of musical enjoyment.   Submitted by, Ken Evans, RTOS Director    
(back) Subject: Creston question From: "Richard Hazelip" <rhazelip1@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 19:39:05 -0700 (PDT)   Hello listers! Please bear with another Creston question: Have any of you heard of a church musician named Tim (?) Giles? He was = the musician at St. Malachy's in NYC before Maureen Morgan's tenure in the = mid 1980s. I am also trying to locate the following information: 1.) Who serviced the Kilgen organ before it was replaced by an electronic = substitute some time shortly after Creston left the church? (Kilgen did = not service the organ as the shop had relocated to St. Louis some number = of years earlier.) 2.) Is it possible to learn who was Creston's immediate successor at St. = Malachy's? Oh, the pain, the Paaaiiiinnn. (Dr. Smith quote from Lost in Space) Thanks for any information you can send my way!   Richard Hazelip    
(back) Subject: Re: Reverence in Worship From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:31:27 EDT   In a message dated 4/24/2004 10:10:58 AM Central Daylight Time, huggins88@yahoo.com writes:   What I really can't figure out is the greet-each-other time that occurs in my church several minutes after the service starts (or, as an organist once put it, "Howdy doody time..."). With the possible exception that visitors who were left out of the pre-service fellowship get greeted, I have trouble with the idea of lopping more time off the service to do something most of them did for 10 minutes PRIOR to the service! IMHO - I believe this practice, which occurs in hundreds (if not = thousands) of churches, is the non-liturgical substitute for "the passing of the = peace." Many "free-tradition" church folk feel uncomfortable (I'm told) doing (in = the "area" of the service leading to the Holy Communion) what the rubric calls =   for: "The Peace may be exchanged," so ministers create another place in = the service of doing the same thing without calling it what it really is . . . = and often, the emphasis is on not ignoring the visitors. Go figure!    
(back) Subject: Re: Reverence in Worship From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2004 00:52:29 EDT   In a message dated 4/23/2004 12:24:48 AM Central Daylight Time, glawn@jam.rr.com writes:   We belive that a rising tide lifts all boats. We also believe that if something is above one's head, the best remedy is to raise one's head. = Civilized is as civilized does. Will someone please explain this metaphysical/metaphorical jargon in light = of the subject being discussed. Thank you.   Ignorant in Independence Dale Rider