PipeChat Digest #4702 - Thursday, August 19, 2004
why there are no organists, cont.
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: electronic organs
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
Re: Langlais' Four Postludes
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: why there are no organists
  by "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu>
toe levers
  by "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
USA Nat'l Anthem at Olympics
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
toe levers - tiraripieno
  by "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br>
Re: toe levers - tiraripieno
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>

(back) Subject: why there are no organists, cont. From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:11:31 -0700   And from the national AGO site:   Organization: Grace Episcopal Church Street Address: 555 E. Mountain View Ave Glendora, CA 91741 Congregation Size: 300 Contact Name/Title: The Rev. Susan Scranton, Rector Daytime Phone: 626-335-3171 Evening Phone: 626-252-6813 Fax: 626-335-2511 E-mail: graceglendora@earthlink.net Web Site:   Position Information Position Title: Organist (part-time) Brief Position Description: We seek a professionally trained church organist with a proven ability to play music in a liturgical setting. He/she must have an ability to relate well to people and to work cooperatively with the choirmaster, under the supervision of the rector. The parish traditionally has a quality music program that includes an adult choir, two handbell choirs, and occasional instrumental and vocal soloists. The preferred style of music is classical sacred music, ranging from Palestrina to Rutter. Application Information: Please submit a resume to the Rev. Susan Scranton via mail, fax, or e-mail. Applicants will be then be invited for an interview and audition. Please feel free to contact me by phone with further questions. Number of Weekly Services: 1 and Rehearsals:1 Ensembles: Accompany adult choir (14 members). Number Supervised: N/A Hours per Week: 8 Organ description: Rosales pipe organ, built in 1977, 2 manuals, 26 = ranks.   Compensation Information Annual Salary: Starting at $8,000 negotiable with ability and experience Weeks of Paid Continuing Ed: N/A Weeks of Paid vacation: 3 Benefits: Position Posted on: 12-Jul-2004 Position Available: 01-Aug-2004 Response Deadline: 01-Aug-2004   ---------------------------------------   Employing Organization Information Organization: St. Timothy's Episcopal Church Street Address: 15757 St. Timothy Rd. Apple Valley, CA 92307 Congregation Size: 200 Contact Name/Title: Betsy Denison, Sr. Warden/Harry Childress, Jr. Warden Daytime Phone: 760--242-2405 Evening Phone: 760-247-7633 E-mail: sttimothyschurch@charterinternet.com Web Site:   Position Information Position Title: Organist & Choir Master (part-time) Brief Position Description: One rehearsal weekly and one service at 10:00 a.m. Sundays. Additonal services Christmas, Holy Week and Easter. Application Information: Resume, letters of recommendation and academic credentials. Mail, Email, Phone if there are questions. Number of Weekly Services: 1 and Rehearsals:1 Ensembles: Adult choir Number Supervised: N/A Hours per Week: 5-10 Organ description: Albhorn Galante virtual pipe organ. Chanticleer 3, tracker touch, 3 manual draw know.   Compensation Information Annual Salary: $5500 Weeks of Paid Continuing Ed: ** Weeks of Paid vacation: ** Benefits: Position Posted on: 29-Jun-2004 Position Available: 01-Jul-2004 Response Deadline: 01-Sep-2004   ---------------------------------------------------------   Employing Organization Information Organization: Holy Redeemer Catholic Church Street Address: 2411 Montrose Ave Montrose, CA 91020 Congregation Size: 1200 Contact Name/Title: Charlotte Lansberg Music Director/Organist Daytime Phone: 626-797-4711 Web Site:   Position Information Position Title: Assistant Organist Brief Position Description: Organist to accompany choir for one service on Sundays, from @ 9:30 a.m. to 11:00 a.m. Rehearsal on Wednesdays from 7:30 to 9:30 p.m. A good part time position for university level organist. Possibility of more services in the near future. Wide variety of music from Gregorian chant to contemporary. Some improv skills desirable. Very appreciative choir and congregation. Organ available for practice. This position currently runs from September to June, then picks up again in September. Application Information: Please send a resume and references from previous accompanying positions. You can send everything to the church. The address posted. Number of Weekly Services: 1 and Rehearsals:1 Ensembles: Accompany adult choir, approximately 25. Occasionaly play a mass with just a cantor (no rehearsal). Number Supervised: NA Hours per Week: 4 hours Organ description: Rogers Trillium 957, installed February of 2004. 3 manuals, includes midi and synthesizer. Will be adding a Mac powerbook for sequences to program and play along.   Compensation Information Annual Salary: $7,500-10,000 Weeks of Paid Continuing Ed: NA Weeks of Paid vacation: NA Benefits: Unemployment - While churches are not required to pay into a state's unemployment system, they may choose to do so. Position Posted on: 28-Jul-2004 Position Available: 01-Sep-2004 Response Deadline: 31-Aug-2004   ------------------------------------------------------   Position Information Position Title: Organist/Choirmaster (part-time) Brief Position Description: St. Peter's is now accepting applications for the staff employee position of Church Organist/ Choirmaster. Given the right applicant, this position may be divided... This part-time position will become available August 1, 2004. Responsibilities include playing the Allan Renaissance 350 digital organ ( described below) and piano for the main Sunday worship service and major Holy Days, directing the Adult Choir and rehearsing them once per week, choosing music for Voluntaries and other instrumental selections, and working closely with the Rector to plan liturgical music, choose choir anthems and congregational hymnody. Our ideal candidate has some formal training, experience in organ performance and choir direction and a heart for developing and teaching volunteer choir members. Experience and knowledge of Anglican liturgy and repertoire are plus factors, but not required. Some interest has been indicated in the congregation for development of more contemporary music in addition to classical Anglican hymns; and there is also interest in creating an alternative worship service on Sunday evenings for high school and college-age people in particular. Applicant experience with contemporary and alternative music forms is a plus, but not required. We have an active Children's Choir with more than 12 voices, ably directed by Katherine Balay Genge; the organist would accompany that choir approximately once per month, but not be required to rehearse with them. The Organist/Choirmaster may use both organ and piano in the sanctuary for private teaching, on a schedule mutually agreed on with the Rector. The Organist/Choirmaster has the right of first refusal for all weddings, funeral and like special services: these additional services are compensated at AGO rate in addition to the base salary. St. Peter's is very interested in raising the quality of vocal music and the breadth and depth of music in worship; the right applicant for this position will be ready to build on this stated interest. Application Information: Please apply with a resume indicating education, experience, skills, salary history and professional references. This resume may be sent by FAX, e-mail attachment or surface mail. Qualified applicants will be contacted for an in-person interview including a demonstration of playing abilities. A letter from the applicant describing his/her interest in this position, and a personal statement of the role of music in worship should accompany the resume. Please address resume and letter to the Rev. Mary L. Goshert at St. Peter's Episcopal Church. Number of Weekly Services: 1 and Rehearsals:1 Ensembles: The Adult Choir has 10 - 16 members and will be under the leadership of the Organist/Choirmaster. Number Supervised: NA Hours per Week: 10 -- 12. May be split if position is split. Organ description: 2001 Allen Renaissance 350 Digital 3 manual, pedals, 78 stops, MIDI, connected to Allen Audio System on which performances may be recorded, recorder for automatically repeated performance, in sequence, at a finger's touch.   Compensation Information Annual Salary: $12,000 + depending on experience and skill. May be divided to accommodate split of Organist./CHoirmaster into two positions. Salary may be divided to acccommodate benefits and other considerations, as individual may negotiate with parish. Weeks of Paid Continuing Ed: TBD Weeks of Paid vacation: TBD Benefits: Position Posted on: 15-Jul-2004 Position Available: 01-Aug-2004 Response Deadline: 15-Sep-2004   ------------------------------------------------------------------      
(back) Subject: Re: electronic organs From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:10:52 -0400   What Bud doesn't mention is the capacity of the individual who does the tonal finishing/.voicing. Not every pipe organ technician/worker can do tonal finishing/voicing. I have also observed that not every electronc organ salesman can do tonal finishing/voicing. I remain concern that there's no corporate overseeing of what the electronic organ installers do out in the field, not even in large instruments. If one is lucky enough to be dealing with a voicer who knows what he//she is doing, fine. But I've heard electronics that are worse than an embarrassment. The Central NY Allen of which I originally wrote was one of those. The identical Cape Cod instrument was not. The Central NY instrument was put in by a dealer who had sold a lot of organs. He should have known better. The instrument was also in a church where the organist didn't know what was acceptable and what wasn't. I've always thought that the dealer did what he did because he thought he could get away with it.   So we're back to my original dream: that every elecronic organ installtion be inspected by a representative direct from the company. Or don't these companies care?   Steve Best in Utica, NY   Liquescent wrote:   > What Stephen said (grin). > > At various times, I worked for both Allen and Rodgers, doing > installation and voicing. As with pipe organs, the time for voicing > and tonal finishing in the church has to be built into the contract. > We simply included that in our bid ... we would NEVER put an > "out-of-the-box" organ into a church without doing at least SOME > tweaking of the voicing. >      
(back) Subject: Re: Langlais' Four Postludes From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:16:12 -0700     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> > I've been playing Langlais' "Four Postludes" recently. I think my battered > copy is the first Langlais I ever owned; I have most of his organ works = by > now, though not quite all. My question to the list is, what are your > opinions of the four? I like the first and the third. The second has = its > moments, but I think is boring in the chromatic sections. The fourth I have > yet to learn, so have yet to form an opinion on it. It looks a lot = harder > than the other three. I think the third, especially in its opening > measures, is quite thrilling.   They're certainly off the beaten path. Ann Labounsky recorded them as part of the complete Langlais project, but as near as I can tell none of them have ever appeared on record otherwise, and I don't believe I've ever seen one on a recital program. I think they're just not very good Langlais compared to the chant-based works. My mentor in the ways of French music, John Forshaw, was the dedicatee of No. 4, and although I heard him play dozens of Langlais works, that Postlude wasn't one of them.   MAF    
(back) Subject: Re: why there are no organists From: "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 12:32:35 -0400   I guess I fail to see what this proves. But maybe I missed the point = entirely.=20   For part-time jobs, I didn't see anything too horrible. There was one that = mentioned a starting salary of $30,000. Even if that's full time, what so = wrong with that? A beginning teacher is lucky to make that much!   I continue to say that if you're looking to get rich, church music is not = the place for you. You should have picked a different major in college. = And I hope that never changes for me. I would like to think that I'd play = for free (horrors!) if a church approached me and didn't have enough money = to pay a musician, but wanted music in their worship service. Some of us = aren't in it to get rich, some of us are in it for the ministry.=20   Respectfully, Shelley   >>> quilisma@cox.net 08/19/04 12:02 PM >>> Here is a sampling of jobs posted on the San Diego AGO website. Note = the=20 duties, hours per week, and the salaries (if given).   Apparently prep time isn't taken into consideration.   Cheers,   Bud   ---------------------------------------------------   DIRECTOR OF MUSIC   Our ever-growing 700-member family church with a strong tradition of=20 music and liturgy seeks a part-time, experienced organist/keyboardist=20 and director for adult choir (with paid section leaders) to start as=20 soon as possible. Salary in the $20K+ range. Send resume to Music Director Search Committee, St. Andrew's Episcopal=20 Church, 890 Balour Drive, Encinitas, CA 92024, fax to (760) 753-3017, = or=20 email as text, PDF, or Word document to contact@standrewsepiscopal.org Job Description   Position =09   Director Of Music   Reports To =09   Rector, Fr. Wesley Hills   Normal Place of Work =09   St. Andrew's Episcopal Church, Encinitas, CA   Overall =09   To co-ordinate the total music program of the church, and to provide=20 choral direction and keyboard accompaniment, in a manner that enhances=20 the spirit of worship and assists the congregation to praise and serve = God.   Remuneration =09   In the region of $20,000 per year.   Benefits =09   Six weeks of paid leave, agreed and arranged in advance with the Rector.   Work Hours =09   Part-time position. Includes, but is not limited to:   - Adult Choir rehearsals at St. Andrew's on Thursday evenings=20 and before choral services on Sunday.   - Preparation for, playing at, and tidying-up after, choral=20 services on Sunday and other seasonal observances as directed.   - Administration of Adult Choir.   - Attendance at monthly Worship Committee meetings, and=20 occasional staff and Vestry meetings upon request.   Starting =09   As soon as possible Outline   St. Andrew's Episcopal Church has a well-established and active church=20 community of over 700 people, which continues to grow every year.=20 Currently, there are three main services each week:   - An alternative music service on Saturday evening attended by=20 about 40-50 people.   - A said Eucharist at 8.00 a.m. on Sunday, attended by about=20 20-30 parishioners.   - A choral Family Eucharist at 10:00 a.m. on Sunday attended = by=20 about 250 parishioners (about 400 on main Feast Days), including 70=20 children coming in from Sunday School part way through the service.   St. Andrew's has three choirs: the Cherub Choir for young children, and=20 the Young People's Choir for older children (each having its own=20 Director), and the Adult Choir. The Adult Choir has about 20 members,=20 with four paid section leaders.   The two primary responsibilities of the Director of Music is the Adult=20 Choir, and the musical and choral facets of the 10:00 a.m. Sunday service. Liturgical Duties   - Select music (hymns and anthems) for the worship service=20 appropriate to lectionary themes and liturgical season.   - Provide keyboard accompaniment for any choral service and=20 seasonal observance.   - Select, prepare, and play preludes and postludes at any=20 choral service and seasonal observances.   - Plan special liturgies in co-operation with the Rector and=20 the Worship Committee.   - Work with parishioners and their families in the selection=20 and performance of music at special events such as weddings and=20 funerals. An honorarium is typically given for this.   - Stimulate congregational participation in music, and teaching=20=   new music to members in worship as requested.   - Field parishioners' questions and concerns related to music=20 and choir matters. Administrative Duties   - Submit a list of the music selections for each choral service=20=   in a timely manner to the church office.   - Proofread the music listings in service bulletins.   - Prepare music budget and manages music line items.   - Submit requisitions for printed music, supplies and choir = robes.   - Participate in Worship Committee meetings. Attend Vestry and=20 staff meetings upon request.   - Arrange for instrument maintenance, repair, and tuning.   - Co-ordinate music performances with the Young People's and=20 Cherub Choir directors.   - Promote the growth and stability of all choirs, and lend=20 support to musicians who play at any service.   - Arrange for, and prepare detailed instructions for, temporary=20=   or substitute organists and/or piano players as required.   - Maintain the music library.   - Write relevant music news items for the monthly church=20 newsletter and/or for service bulletins.   - Manage the St. Cecilia's fund and any associated activity. Adult Choir Duties   - Audition, hire, train, and supervise section leaders.   - Submit monthly pay requests in a timely manner to the church=20 Office for section leaders.   - Develop the musical skills of Adult Choir members through=20 weekly rehearsals, coaching, etc.   - Direct the Adult Choir for any Sunday choral service, and = for=20 all seasonal observances (for example, Advent, Christmas, Lent, and = Holy=20 Week).   - Nurture choir members and work at team-building among the = group.   - Work with current members to recruit new members.   - Maintain roster of choir members, including addresses,=20 contact telephone numbers and e-mail addresses, vestment and music=20 assignments.   - Contact members who are absent, ill, or in crisis. Music Education and Outreach   - Plan and direct special concerts and/or services as=20 determined by the Rector and relevant musicians.   - Plan and distribute publicity materials for such events.   - Notify the parish of special music events and opportunities=20 in the community. Continuing Education   - Study and practice to further develop music skills.   - Maintain membership in relevant professional organization = and=20 serve on professional committees and commissions as appropriate.   - Attend conferences of relevant professional organizations to=20 promote personal growth, networking with colleagues to share ideas and=20 concerns. Other Duties   Other duties may be assigned by the Rector from time to time. Skills Required   - Knowledge of both choral and keyboard church music=20 appropriate for traditional Choral Eucharist.   - Ability to play piano and organ proficiently and to improve=20 appropriately.   - Instructional competency in teaching music to volunteer=20 singers of all ages, along with paid section leaders.   - Understanding of liturgy's meaning and the role of music in=20 worship services.   - Appreciation for the worship style and music of the various=20 services in this parish.     ----------------------------------------------------------   Graham Memorial Presbyterian 959 C Avenue Coronado, CA 92118   Provide leadership and direction for the music program of the church=20 involving Chancel Choir with section leaders, Youth Choirs, Kirk Handbell Ringers and "The Ensemble." Part time position, approx. 20 hours per week. Please send resumes to the church, attention Personnel Committee.   ----------------------------------------------------------------   First United Methodist Church of Chula Vista. Rehearsals on Monday and=20 Thursday nights; up to 3 worship services on Sundays, some computer=20 expertise; Christmas, Easter and early summer programs, other services=20 as required. Some experience in contemporary praise and worship music=20 needed. Salary negotiable around $30,000/year. Please direct all=20 inquiries and send resumes to Carolyn Terpstra c/o the church at 915=20 Paseo Ranchero, Chula Vista, CA 91910-7728   -----------------------------------------------------------------------   St.Patrick's Church; Carlsbad, CA Position available in an active = family=20 parish of 3,600 members. Responsibilities include Sunday liturgies with=20 choir (Thursday rehearsal) and special liturgies as needed. Candidate=20 should be highly skilled organist/pianist familiar with Catholic liturgy=20=   (both traditional and contemporary styles of music). Reports to Director=20=   of Music and works collaboratively with staff musicians. Music degree = or=20 equivalent experience required. Salary ($13,000 to $15,000) commensurate with qualifications and experience. Funerals and weddings=20 extra. 2 Manuel Allen. Send r=E9sum=E9 to Kathleen O'Brien, Director of=20 Music, kobrien@miracosta.edu or call 760.722.0565 for further information.   ---------------------------------------------------------------           ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" 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(back) Subject: toe levers From: "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:42:24 -0300   Dear list,   Please, somebody knows anything about the deviced ('toe levers for a plenum registration') quoted by Andresen (p. 119): '(...) 'Italian aids to registration are based on the stop action of spring chest, such as toe levers for a plenum registration and for ranks whose stop knobs have been pulled 1/4 turn ( a kind offree combination). Such devices were useful in an organwith only one manual werk" (Andersen, p. 119). Can somebody explains me that deviced? I thank you very much. Domitila Ballesteros        
(back) Subject: USA Nat'l Anthem at Olympics From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:04:46 -0400   Is it just my wife and I, or is the version of the USA national anthem = being played at the Olympics sorta "strange?" It reminds us of Phil Spitalni = and his all-girl orchestra!!   Is it perhaps an attempt to counter-act the rather militaristic and aggressive attitude which the USA seems to portray these days to much of = the rest of the world? (I hope NOT to engender conversation about this statement. I have been in close contact in recent months with some of the rest of the world, including spending two months in Europe, and the Europeans do seem to sense America and especially the Bush administration = as super-aggressive.)   Conversely, I've been more than thankful to see American athletes SINGING = as the anthem is played, though I do not find the music a very stirring sort = of encouragement for singing.   Just wondering.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: toe levers - tiraripieno From: "Domitila Ballesteros" <dballesteros@uol.com.br> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 14:07:10 -0300   Dear list,   the device, I wrote in the last e-mail, I found the name. This is 'tiraripieno' I found a very good site, I don't know if you know, It is http://www.inzoli-bonizzi.com/ The links in the 'English' version, don't work very well. You have to go in the Italian version. There, it is a link to restauration organs 'organi restaurati' http://www.inzoli-bonizzi.com/page15.html   This is a wonderful! In this site I found two types of tiraripieno. There are by pedals, abd by hans (manivela) There are so many, many beautiful and useful photos. But I still wait for you help, because I still can to understand what works this device.   Thank you, Domitila      
(back) Subject: Re: toe levers - tiraripieno From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:24:29 EDT   In a message dated 8/19/2004 12:09:54 PM Central Daylight Time, dballesteros@uol.com.br writes:   This is a wonderful! In this site I found two types of tiraripieno. There are by pedals, abd by hans (manivela) There are so many, many beautiful and useful photos. But I still wait for you help, because I still can to understand what works this device.     The stop knobs on some of these organs may be turned to the right so that =   they may be activated by the pedal. So..for example, the organist may = select his registration during mass (by turning the stop knobs), and when it is = time to play, he steps on one pedal-which forces out all of the stop knobs that = he selected. The Flentrop at Holy Name Cath. in Chicago has this system.   ___________________________________________________________________________= ___ _________ _______________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________ _______________________________ ________________ Gregory Francis Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Avenue # GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile _Home Email: gfc234@aol.com_ (mailto:gfc234@aol.com) _Mobile Email: gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net_ (mailto:gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net)