PipeChat Digest #4948 - Wednesday, December 1, 2004
 
choral music for Lent, Holy Week, and Easter
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
choral music for Lent, Holy Week, Easter
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
choral music for Lent, Holy Week, Easter
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
RE: 11 yr old "child prodigy" (nomenclature)
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
Re: 11 yr old "child prodigy" (nomenclature)
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
RE: Alkmaar wind pressures
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Rain & ice for speedsters. (was:Grains of Rice for Speakers)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: 11 yr old "child prodigy" composer Jay Greenberg  [marginally on-topi
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: What do organists prefer to play?
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
RE: organs on the coast
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: UGH, let's try that AGAIN
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
(nomenclature)
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE:  (nomenclature)
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
 

(back) Subject: choral music for Lent, Holy Week, and Easter From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:59:37 -0800   Hymns, Responsories, Psalms, etc.       Hail, Queen of Heaven, Enthroned (Ave Regina caelorum) - SAB - C. Rossini   Psalm 22 (Deus, Deus meus) (1) 1662 text, (2) modern text - SATB fauxbourdons   Psalm 51 (Miserere) (1) 1662 text, (2) modern text - SATB fauxbourdons   The Royal Banners Forward Go (Vexilla regis prodeunt) - SAB - Terrabugio   Faithful Cross, Above All Other (Crux fidelis) - SAB - Lassus   Humbly I Adore Thee (Adoro te devote) Ambrosian Chant / Palestrina - SATB   At This Our Solemn Feast (Sacris solemniis) - SATB - Casciolini   The Word of God, Proceeding Forth (Verbum supernum prodiens) - SATB - Palestrina   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) - SATB - Palestrina   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) - SAB - Lassus   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) Spanish Chant / Victoria - SATB   O Queen of Heaven, Be Joyful, Alleluia (Regina caeli) - SAB - C. Rossini   Hail Thee, Festival Day (Salve festa dies) - Gregorian   I Beheld Water (Vidi aquam) - simple Gregorian melody + SATB Fauxbourdons       Anthems       Behold the Lamb of God (Ecce Agnus Dei) - unison, SAB, or SATB - C. = Rossini   For In The Night In Which He Was Betrayed (Cenantibus illis) - SATB - arr. Clark   Hail, True Body (Ave verum corpus) - SAB - Cipolla   Where Charity And Love Are (Ubi caritas) - SATB - C. Rossini   O Saving Victim, Opening Wide (O salutaris hostia) - SATB - C. Rossini   Thy Rebuke Hath Broken My Heart (Improperium exspectavit cor meum) - SAB - Griesbacher - "in stile antico"   Thy Rebuke Hath Broken My Heart (Improperium exspectavit cor meum) - SATB - F.X. Witt   Why Does He Seem To Be So Sad (Palm Sunday) - traditional - unison or SATB   Christ Became Obedient Unto Death (Christus factus est) - Yon - SATB   Alleluia! Alleluia! Christ the Lord is Risen Today - Gruber - SAB or SATB       The Holy Week - all in English       Complete liturgies for Palm Sunday, Maundy Thursday (including all the Foot-Washing Antiphons in modern notation with organ accompaniment), and Good Friday (including the Victoria Reproaches with the verses written out and corrected), for SATB, according to the 1950 rite; and a Good Friday Tenebrae service for SATB   St. Matthew Passion - RCL text (Palm Sunday Year A) - SATB Victoria = choruses   St. Luke Passion - RCL text (Palm Sunday Year C) - SATB Viadana choruses   St. John Passion - RCL text (Good Friday) - SATB Viadana choruses   Russian Good Friday Lamentations (3) - SATB - arr. Clark   The Complete Chant of the Exsultet for Holy Saturday in modern notation - arr. Clark       Propers for the Eucharist - all in English   Introits - simple modal SATB settings Graduals & Tracts - SATB fauxbourdons Offertories - simple modern settings for unison, SAB or SATB Communions - a mixture of modal SATB settings, fauxbourdons, Gregorian Chants   (many of the SAB/SATB Offertories may be sung as anthems)   Ash Wednesday   Lent 1-2-3-4-5   Palm (Passion) Sunday   Maundy Thursday   Easter Day       The music is available in PDF, Sibelius 1.4, or Scorch HTML files. Scorch is a free download from the Sibelius website.   I ask a STRICTLY voluntary donation of $1 US per page for the masters of the music you actually USE. Make all the copies you like. LOOKING at the stuff is FREE (grin); ask to see whatever you want to see.   DONATIONS:   Checks and money orders:   Raymond H. Clark 3344 32nd St. San Diego CA 92104-4738   PayPal:   beejayusa@cox.net (our family PayPal account)   If you can't afford to donate, USE THE MUSIC ANYWAY. I'd rather it be SUNG and PRESERVED (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud                      
(back) Subject: choral music for Lent, Holy Week, Easter From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:01:16 -0800   Hymns, Responsories, Psalms, etc.       Hail, Queen of Heaven, Enthroned (Ave Regina caelorum) - SAB - C. Rossini   Psalm 22 (Deus, Deus meus) (1) 1662 text, (2) modern text - SATB fauxbourdons   Psalm 51 (Miserere) (1) 1662 text, (2) modern text - SATB fauxbourdons   The Royal Banners Forward Go (Vexilla regis prodeunt) - SAB - Terrabugio   Faithful Cross, Above All Other (Crux fidelis) - SAB - Lassus   Humbly I Adore Thee (Adoro te devote) Ambrosian Chant / Palestrina - SATB   At This Our Solemn Feast (Sacris solemniis) - SATB - Casciolini   The Word of God, Proceeding Forth (Verbum supernum prodiens) - SATB - Palestrina   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) - SATB - Palestrina   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) - SAB - Lassus   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) Spanish Chant / Victoria - SATB   O Queen of Heaven, Be Joyful, Alleluia (Regina caeli) - SAB - C. Rossini   Hail Thee, Festival Day (Salve festa dies) - Gregorian   I Beheld Water (Vidi aquam) - simple Gregorian melody + SATB Fauxbourdons       Anthems       Behold the Lamb of God (Ecce Agnus Dei) - unison, SAB, or SATB - C. = Rossini   For In The Night In Which He Was Betrayed (Cenantibus illis) - SATB - arr. Clark   Hail, True Body (Ave verum corpus) - SAB - Cipolla   Where Charity And Love Are (Ubi caritas) - SATB - C. Rossini   O Saving Victim, Opening Wide (O salutaris hostia) - SATB - C. Rossini   Thy Rebuke Hath Broken My Heart (Improperium exspectavit cor meum) - SAB - Griesbacher - "in stile antico"   Thy Rebuke Hath Broken My Heart (Improperium exspectavit cor meum) - SATB - F.X. Witt   Why Does He Seem To Be So Sad (Palm Sunday) - traditional - unison or SATB   Christ Became Obedient Unto Death (Christus factus est) - Yon - SATB   Alleluia! Alleluia! Christ the Lord is Risen Today - Gruber - SAB or SATB       The Holy Week - all in English       Complete liturgies for Palm Sunday, Maundy Thursday (including all the Foot-Washing Antiphons in modern notation with organ accompaniment), and Good Friday (including the Victoria Reproaches with the verses written out and corrected), for SATB, according to the 1950 rite; and a Good Friday Tenebrae service for SATB   St. Matthew Passion - RCL text (Palm Sunday Year A) - SATB Victoria = choruses   St. Luke Passion - RCL text (Palm Sunday Year C) - SATB Viadana choruses   St. John Passion - RCL text (Good Friday) - SATB Viadana choruses   Russian Good Friday Lamentations (3) - SATB - arr. Clark   The Complete Chant of the Exsultet for Holy Saturday in modern notation - arr. Clark       Propers for the Eucharist - all in English   Introits - simple modal SATB settings Graduals & Tracts - SATB fauxbourdons Offertories - simple modern settings for unison, SAB or SATB Communions - a mixture of modal SATB settings, fauxbourdons, Gregorian Chants   (many of the SAB/SATB Offertories may be sung as anthems)   Ash Wednesday   Lent 1-2-3-4-5   Palm (Passion) Sunday   Maundy Thursday   Easter Day       The music is available in PDF, Sibelius 1.4, or Scorch HTML files. Scorch is a free download from the Sibelius website.   I ask a STRICTLY voluntary donation of $1 US per page for the masters of the music you actually USE. Make all the copies you like. LOOKING at the stuff is FREE (grin); ask to see whatever you want to see.   DONATIONS:   Checks and money orders:   Raymond H. Clark 3344 32nd St. San Diego CA 92104-4738   PayPal:   beejayusa@cox.net (our family PayPal account)   If you can't afford to donate, USE THE MUSIC ANYWAY. I'd rather it be SUNG and PRESERVED (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud                            
(back) Subject: choral music for Lent, Holy Week, Easter From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:01:45 -0800   Hymns, Responsories, Psalms, etc.       Hail, Queen of Heaven, Enthroned (Ave Regina caelorum) - SAB - C. Rossini   Psalm 22 (Deus, Deus meus) (1) 1662 text, (2) modern text - SATB fauxbourdons   Psalm 51 (Miserere) (1) 1662 text, (2) modern text - SATB fauxbourdons   The Royal Banners Forward Go (Vexilla regis prodeunt) - SAB - Terrabugio   Faithful Cross, Above All Other (Crux fidelis) - SAB - Lassus   Humbly I Adore Thee (Adoro te devote) Ambrosian Chant / Palestrina - SATB   At This Our Solemn Feast (Sacris solemniis) - SATB - Casciolini   The Word of God, Proceeding Forth (Verbum supernum prodiens) - SATB - Palestrina   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) - SATB - Palestrina   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) - SAB - Lassus   Now, My Tongue, The Mystery Telling (Pange lingua gloriosi) Spanish Chant / Victoria - SATB   O Queen of Heaven, Be Joyful, Alleluia (Regina caeli) - SAB - C. Rossini   Hail Thee, Festival Day (Salve festa dies) - Gregorian   I Beheld Water (Vidi aquam) - simple Gregorian melody + SATB Fauxbourdons       Anthems       Behold the Lamb of God (Ecce Agnus Dei) - unison, SAB, or SATB - C. = Rossini   For In The Night In Which He Was Betrayed (Cenantibus illis) - SATB - arr. Clark   Hail, True Body (Ave verum corpus) - SAB - Cipolla   Where Charity And Love Are (Ubi caritas) - SATB - C. Rossini   O Saving Victim, Opening Wide (O salutaris hostia) - SATB - C. Rossini   Thy Rebuke Hath Broken My Heart (Improperium exspectavit cor meum) - SAB - Griesbacher - "in stile antico"   Thy Rebuke Hath Broken My Heart (Improperium exspectavit cor meum) - SATB - F.X. Witt   Why Does He Seem To Be So Sad (Palm Sunday) - traditional - unison or SATB   Christ Became Obedient Unto Death (Christus factus est) - Yon - SATB   Alleluia! Alleluia! Christ the Lord is Risen Today - Gruber - SAB or SATB       The Holy Week - all in English       Complete liturgies for Palm Sunday, Maundy Thursday (including all the Foot-Washing Antiphons in modern notation with organ accompaniment), and Good Friday (including the Victoria Reproaches with the verses written out and corrected), for SATB, according to the 1950 rite; and a Good Friday Tenebrae service for SATB   St. Matthew Passion - RCL text (Palm Sunday Year A) - SATB Victoria = choruses   St. Luke Passion - RCL text (Palm Sunday Year C) - SATB Viadana choruses   St. John Passion - RCL text (Good Friday) - SATB Viadana choruses   Russian Good Friday Lamentations (3) - SATB - arr. Clark   The Complete Chant of the Exsultet for Holy Saturday in modern notation - arr. Clark       Propers for the Eucharist - all in English   Introits - simple modal SATB settings Graduals & Tracts - SATB fauxbourdons Offertories - simple modern settings for unison, SAB or SATB Communions - a mixture of modal SATB settings, fauxbourdons, Gregorian Chants   (many of the SAB/SATB Offertories may be sung as anthems)   Ash Wednesday   Lent 1-2-3-4-5   Palm (Passion) Sunday   Maundy Thursday   Easter Day       The music is available in PDF, Sibelius 1.4, or Scorch HTML files. Scorch is a free download from the Sibelius website.   I ask a STRICTLY voluntary donation of $1 US per page for the masters of the music you actually USE. Make all the copies you like. LOOKING at the stuff is FREE (grin); ask to see whatever you want to see.   DONATIONS:   Checks and money orders:   Raymond H. Clark 3344 32nd St. San Diego CA 92104-4738   PayPal:   beejayusa@cox.net (our family PayPal account)   If you can't afford to donate, USE THE MUSIC ANYWAY. I'd rather it be SUNG and PRESERVED (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud                            
(back) Subject: RE: 11 yr old "child prodigy" (nomenclature) From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 14:09:24 -0600     >We'd better go back to using "thee", "thou", and "ye" in everyday speech=20 >too, I suppose! English, like any language, is dynamic, and it changes in=20 >different directions in different English speaking countries, again like >any other language. We do not have to feel obligated to use obsolete >language or language that is used in another country just because that's >the way it "used to be"!! I'll stick with what IS instead of what WAS >thanks!   >Andy   Ordinarily, I would agree with you. However, I'm not sure that you can qualify what (if anything) might be appropriate to distinguish "Master" from "Mister", or "Mistress" from "Missus" (Mrs). Sure, these are what WAS, and as far as I can tell, they are still what IS, regardless of how much use they receive!   Of course, the correct use of nomenclature ought to be of the utmost interest to organists and organ-builders, but I daresay it isn't always, judging from the mish-mash way of naming stops on organ consoles. Eclecticism, perhaps?   Daniel Hancock Springfield, Missouri  
(back) Subject: Re: 11 yr old "child prodigy" (nomenclature) From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:32:05 -0500   Dear Dan, I guess some of us are waxing nostalgic about our youth and order rather than the use of English. In actuality, at that time, we knew where = we stood as children as opposed to adults as opposed to the Britney Spears social logic but I dare say that it behooves us to look at the old pecking order to bring about some order out of the present chaos. Again we have = the same arguement with an organ,"where's the speakers" versus," where's the pipes." Fifty years ago there was no confusion as to the source of sound. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:09 PM Subject: RE: 11 yr old "child prodigy" (nomenclature)       >We'd better go back to using "thee", "thou", and "ye" in everyday speech >too, I suppose! English, like any language, is dynamic, and it changes in >different directions in different English speaking countries, again like >any other language. We do not have to feel obligated to use obsolete >language or language that is used in another country just because that's >the way it "used to be"!! I'll stick with what IS instead of what WAS >thanks!   >Andy   Ordinarily, I would agree with you. However, I'm not sure that you can qualify what (if anything) might be appropriate to distinguish "Master" from "Mister", or "Mistress" from "Missus" (Mrs). Sure, these are what WAS, and as far as I can tell, they are still what IS, regardless of how much use they receive!   Of course, the correct use of nomenclature ought to be of the utmost interest to organists and organ-builders, but I daresay it isn't always, judging from the mish-mash way of naming stops on organ consoles. Eclecticism, perhaps?   Daniel Hancock Springfield, Missouri   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>       --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release Date: 10/29/2004    
(back) Subject: RE: Alkmaar wind pressures From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:00:42 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   It's no big deal Ross. We can all be vicitims to misinformation.   In fact, in the absence of electricity or hydraulic power, physically raising wind higher than that pressure is very, very difficult without a team of horses; especially with an instrument of any size. That's how I knew it to be wrong.   Imagine trying to provide the wind for the Bavo organ!   How many pipes.....7,000?   It must have been a dog of a job.   At least your math was up to scratch, unlike mine!!!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote:   > > OK, I now do a very public grovelling apology.....   > ......May I return to the fold?       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Rain & ice for speedsters. (was:Grains of Rice for Speakers) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:11:32 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Don't want to be pedantic....BUT....   ABS stands for "Antiblockiersystem"....developed by Mercedes and Bosch, if I recall correctly, back in the 70's.   Of course, anti-skid brakes would be ASB....especially suitable in an emergency I guess....."I hope to God I can stop!"   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Harry Grove <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> wrote:     > ABS 'used' to mean 'Anti-lock Braking Sysytems' - > well, it did, to me -     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: RE: 11 yr old "child prodigy" composer Jay Greenberg [marginally on-topic, x... From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:22:54 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I think they dropped using this after the famous incident at a royal function, when the MC announced the next guests:-   "Your Royal Highnesses, My Lords,Ladies and Gentlemen....Mr and Mrs Bates and their son Master ......"   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> wrote:   > * Master" is a "Mister" diminutive for > gentlemen under the age of > majority and has nothing to do with the mastery of > anything in > particular). ;)       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Re: What do organists prefer to play? From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 16:22:40 EST     --part1_96.1b7437dc.2edf9020_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 12/1/2004 1:43:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, nbenson@stjohnschurch.org writes:   > If the quality of the instrumental sound is important to musicians among =   > members, and they are the ones who can tell the difference between > digital and acoustic pipe, which sort of instrument is more likely to > draw musician members into active participation in the church's music > program? > > In my experience these factors favor investing in the acoustic pipe > instrument every time. >   Except when it is a small pipe versus a digi with ALL OF THE GIZMOS>..and add'l manuals.   i will take the electronic every time. Give me a big 3 manual electronic = and it and I will make "Glorious Praise" much better and more glorious than = the piece of junk 26 rank 2 manual Austin i play....end of story. 26 ranks--a = IV on the GT. a III on the PD, a sesqui and 11/3 on the SW. 9 of the 26 are = above 2'. two 2's--so 11 ranks are2' and above. 6 eights, some borrowed betwixt = pedal and GT. An Oboe on steroids with a 16' extension not voiced to match on/in the = swell and a cromorne on the great. A delightful thing but i am not sure for = what.   Just had it's Christmas Tuning. Monday.........need i say what it sounded like today. AC on all the time.   Bitter, party of One ready for seating.   IT is nice to have wind,,,,a more natural gift from and to God, but surely =   She gets bored.......i know i do.     dale running hiding and ducking and cowering and worried but speaking MY truth.......in Florida   --part1_96.1b7437dc.2edf9020_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><HTML><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 PTSIZE=3D3D10 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans MS" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated = 12/1/2004 1=3D :43:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, nbenson@stjohnschurch.org writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D BACK=3D3D"#ffffff" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 = PTSIZE=3D3D10 F=3D AMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">If the quality of the = instrume=3D ntal sound is important to musicians among <BR> members, and they are the ones who can tell the difference between <BR> digital and acoustic pipe, which sort of instrument is more likely to <BR> draw musician members into active participation in the church's music <BR> program?<BR> <BR> In my experience these factors favor investing in the acoustic pipe <BR> instrument every time.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" BACK=3D3D"#ffffff" = style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR:=3D20=3D #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 PTSIZE=3D3D10 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Comic Sans = MS" LANG=3D =3D3D"0"><BR> Except when it is a small pipe versus a digi with ALL OF THE = GIZMOS&gt;..and=3D add'l manuals.<BR> <BR> i will take the electronic every time. Give me a big 3 manual electronic = and=3D it and I will make "Glorious Praise" much better and more glorious than = the=3D piece of junk 26 rank 2 manual Austin i play....end of story. 26 ranks--a = I=3D V on the GT. a III on the PD, a sesqui and 11/3 on the SW. 9 of the 26 are = a=3D bove 2'. two 2's--so 11 ranks are2' and above. 6 eights, some borrowed = betwi=3D xt pedal and GT. <BR> An Oboe on steroids with a 16' extension not voiced to match on/in the = swell=3D and a cromorne on the great.&nbsp; A delightful thing but i am not sure = for=3D what.<BR> <BR> Just had it's Christmas Tuning. Monday.........need i say what it sounded = li=3D ke today.<BR> AC on all the time.<BR> <BR> Bitter, party of One ready for seating.<BR> <BR> IT is nice to have wind,,,,a more natural gift from and to God, but surely = S=3D he gets bored.......i know i do.<BR> <BR> dale running hiding and ducking and cowering and worried but speaking MY = tru=3D th.......in Florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_96.1b7437dc.2edf9020_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: organs on the coast From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 21:36:04 -0000   Can't help you there Harry. Coventry is just about as far from the sea = as one can get in the UK!   All of the organs I am familiar with down in Cornwall, right on the sea = are tracker ones, but I will make some enquiries about the likes of St. = Mary's Penzance, and Chapel Street Methodist in Penzance which I think are = probably E-P.   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Harry Grove Sent: 01 December 2004 19:00 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: organs on the coast   ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 6:49 PM Subject: organs on the coast     [snip] > In fairness, pipe organs don't fare much better, except for the 3m=20 > Fritts-Richards tracker in All Souls' Church out on Point Loma, which = has=20 > NO electrical components except the blower. The Schlicker in the = military=20 > academy chapel at Carlsbad (ON the ocean) suffers from major corrosion = of=20 > key contacts and reed-pipes; the 1960s Moller console at All Saints' = had=20 > to be redone, the 1970s Schlicker at Pilgrim Lutheran in Chula Vista = had=20 > to have new key contacts, etc. etc. etc.   I live inland and the only reminder of coastal matters are the sea-gulls =   (Herring Gulls) seen wheeling around the land-fill sites.   Tell me, those of you "who like to be be-side the sea-side" and live in = UK=20 coastal towns, are you experiencing similar problems with your organs to =   those outlined above ?   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a land-bound musicman] _______________________________________________   'Too many pieces of music finish too long after they should have ended.' Igor Stravinsky=20     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>    
(back) Subject: Re: UGH, let's try that AGAIN From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 13:45:30 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I play a small masterpiece of a neo-baroque organ built in strictly "werkprinzip" style.   I'm afraid that I could never condone the practise of extension organs or an organ which used anything other than mechanical action.   It is surely better to have one manual and pedals with but one stop on each, than something which is musically inferior and dishonest?   I have similar views on the performance of music in the home, which should always be played by real people rather than some infernal digital device and...God forbid....loudspeakers. I also never watch any cartoon or film which contains digital enhancement or computer generated "virtual reality"......that is an insult to writers and actors.   As for that infernal device the telephone, whatever happened to two paper cups and a piece of string?   In fact, if "pipechat" can't gets its act together, and employ real-time pigeons, I feel that I must sharpen my tracker-action quill and join a REAL chat-list.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote:   > > Yes, there are a few organists who prefer pipe > organs, but most have > repeatedly and proudly stated that they simply don't > care, and are happy with any > substitute so long as it is large, is loud, and has > many flashy controls. THAT > should concern us FAR more than a marketing program > that asks legitimate > questions --   __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: (nomenclature) From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 11:00:20 +1300   [snip] Of course, the correct use of nomenclature ought to be of the utmost interest to organists and organ-builders, but I daresay it isn't always, judging from the mish-mash way of naming stops on organ consoles.   This is always fun: gossipping about strange stop labels we've seen.   On an organ in Cambridgeshire in England, I found on a recent trip to the UK, a knob labelled 8ft Open Violin Diapason. The 19thC lettering was cluttered, to say the least.   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: (nomenclature) From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 15:58:22 -0600   As opposed to "Stopped Violin Diapason, I suppose!   Seriously, could it be said that "Violin Diapason" and "Geigen Diapason" are one and the same, being that Geigen means Violin? Generally, however, you don't find both names on the instruments of the same type for from the same period...   Daniel Hancock Springfield, Missouri       >This is always fun: gossipping about strange stop labels we've seen.   >On an organ in Cambridgeshire in England, I found on a recent trip to the >UK, a knob labelled 8ft Open Violin Diapason. The 19thC lettering was >cluttered, to say the least.   >Ross