PipeChat Digest #4967 - Sunday, December 5, 2004
 
Wexford Carol
  by "Robert Nickel" <rnickel@charter.net>
Re: Glossy Paint
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Glossy Paint
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
Re: Glossy Paint
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Glossy Paint
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Acoustic Paint
  by "Ned Benson" <nbenson@stjohnschurch.org>
(nomenclature)
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
What is Acoustic Sealant Paint?
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: (nomenclature)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Great Jazz Pipe Organ CD from Germany
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: pipe organs in chapels of churches
  by <Voicer40@aol.com>
Virtual Organs
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4966 - 12/05/04
  by "gary jenkins" <gary.jenkins6@verizon.net>
Diaphone
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Re: What is acoustic sealant paint?
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: Diaphone
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Diaphone
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
RE: Diaphone
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Sorry... hit the send button way too fast.
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: Diaphone qua navigational aid
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Diaphone
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Wexford Carol From: "Robert Nickel" <rnickel@charter.net> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 06:26:29 -0600   I'm not sure if this made it through the first time I sent it. I = apologize for a repeat post.   Does anyone have a resource for an organ prelude based on the "Wexford Carol"?   Thanks.   Bob Nickel Sturgeon Bay Moravian Church      
(back) Subject: Re: Glossy Paint From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 07:19:04 -0600   Hello, Stephen: Please be a bit more specific about who makes eggshell sytle paint, what are its properties, etc? If I go to a local supplier and ask for eggshell, I suspect the clerk will offer me a color chart. Curious, and already have an application for a paint that can improve the acoustics. Specifically, I may use it to coat the walls in the Swell and Choir divisions. F. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: Re: Glossy Paint From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 08:49:10 -0500   "Eggshell" seems to be a description applied to degree of sheen, much in the same vein as flat, satin, and glossy. The brand we happened to use was Benjamin Moore latex. I'd describe its sheen level as being somewhere between flat and satin. In certain light the shine is noticeable, but in most light it's very subtle and not at all objectionable even in a room as large as the sanctuary at my church.   Steve Best in Utica, NY   F. Richard Burt wrote:   >Hello, Stephen: > >Please be a bit more specific about who makes eggshell >sytle paint, what are its properties, etc? If I go to a local >supplier and ask for eggshell, I suspect the clerk will >offer me a color chart. > >Curious, and already have an application for a paint that >can improve the acoustics. Specifically, I may use it to >coat the walls in the Swell and Choir divisions. > >F. Richard Burt >      
(back) Subject: Re: Glossy Paint From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 08:51:08 EST   In a message dated 12/5/2004 8:20:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, effarbee@verizon.net writes: Curious, and already have an application for a paint that can improve the acoustics. Specifically, I may use it to coat the walls in the Swell and Choir divisions. F. Richard Burt FWIW< when I do a job that allows for the chambers to be painted (such as = a rebuild or major cleaning where the chambers are as empty as practical) I prefer to paint 3 coats of Hi-Gloss Enamel (oil based). it is my = un-scientific opinion that this gives the hardest, most sound-reflective surface, and = using a gloss white gives me a brighter environment in which to do tuning and = repairs work. It is much easier to find a 'stray' armature on a clean white = surface in a brightly lit space than in a dark chamber where the floors are painted a similar color to the armature (gray, for example) and it is dimly lit at = best... of course, it is best not to have dropped the armature in the first place! =   Rick in VA  
(back) Subject: Re: Glossy Paint From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 08:51:00 -0600   Good Morning, Rick: =20 > FWIW< when I do a job that allows for the=20 > chambers to be painted (such as a rebuild=20 > or major cleaning where the chambers are=20 > as empty as practical) I prefer to paint=20 > 3 coats of Hi-Gloss Enamel (oil based). it=20 > is my un-scientific opinion that this gives=20 > the hardest, most sound-reflective surface,=20 > and using a gloss white gives me a brighter=20 > environment in which to do tuning and repairs=20 > work. =20 Brighter would be nice. This set of chambers=20 (Swell and Choir) were built in about 1975 in=20 anticipation for installation of the new Schantz=20 that was completed in 1979. The walls are made=20 of 2x4 or 2x6 studs, covered with one layer of=20 sheet rock and painted flat black. I believe=20 this to be one coat of whatever flat black=20 latex that could be bought by the painters when=20 it was done. There are even some sand grains=20 in the paint, making it a poor reflector. =20 The only platforms on which to stand in both=20 chambers are at the top of the ladder that=20 ascends up the stud wall (2x4s ladder staves)=20 on 2x6 studs. This provdes the only access to=20 the pipes and windchests. There is not place=20 to stand and work up there, either. =20 =20 So, whatever we do to repaint the walls will=20 be with limited access and whatever we can=20 get to stay on top of the sandy latex. This=20 will be a lot of work, but it might bring these=20 two division "out" a bit more. =20 If any of you have ideas about how to build=20 platforms on which to stand while working in=20 chambers scabbed onto the walls (floor is about=20 16 - 24 feet below, depending on which chest=20 you want to service). I'm getting old enough=20 that being "feeble" might not be too far in=20 the future, <grins> and I am always thankful=20 when the tuning is done that I live to tune=20 again. =20 I believe that an improvement is based on doing=20 a lot of little things, . . . like painting the=20 walls with reflective paint. =20 F. Richard Burt =20 =20 ..
(back) Subject: Acoustic Paint From: "Ned Benson" <nbenson@stjohnschurch.org> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 07:27:15 -0800   Thanks to all for very helpful comments and suggestions. When the details are done, I'll post more on the organ we are recycling. -- Dr. Ned H. Benson St. John's Presbyterian Church 1070 West Plumb Lane Reno, Nevada 89509 http://www.stjohnschurch.org    
(back) Subject: (nomenclature) From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:50:56 EST   Which church organ has a drawknob labeled "Bourbon" which when drawn dispenses real bourbon? ....or is this another urban legend? Stan Krider In a message dated 12/04/2004 12:26:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes:   Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 5:01 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: (nomenclature)         On the new Choir/Solo divison to be installed next month in my church, = there will be a Chivas Regal 4/5. Draw your own conclusions.                
(back) Subject: What is Acoustic Sealant Paint? From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 10:59:19 EST   Greetings, Before he would install his IV/73 in the Columbus (OH) First = Congregational Church, Rudolf von Beckerath insisted that the sanctuary be painted with = this type of paint. You might ask the good people at First Congregational this =   question. _http://www.first-church.org/_ (http://www.first-church.org/) Stan Krider M. Eastern Standard Time, nbenson@stjohnschurch.org writes:     Brick and plaster surfaces will be repainted. But with what? Hence my question, what is "acoustic sealant paint"?   Every paint contractor and paint store with whom I have talked knows about paint to deaden a room, but none know what paint to use to make a room most reverberant. I asked a national paint resource lab, who suggested oil-based gloss enamel. We can't use gloss - it's a worship space not an education hall. Is oil-based enamel, either flat or egg-shell, what you mean by acoustic paint? The more specifics in your responses, the better.   Many thanks.   -- Dr. Ned H. Benson St. John's Presbyterian Church 1070 West Plumb Lane Reno, Nevada 89509 http://www.stjohnschurch.org              
(back) Subject: Re: (nomenclature) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 11:06:03 EST   In a message dated 12/5/2004 7:51:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, Wuxuzusu@aol.com writes:   Which church organ has a drawknob labeled "Bourbon" which when drawn dispenses real bourbon? ....or is this another urban legend? Stan Krider       Dear Stan: You may have hit on an add-on that will help poor souls stuck with some of those instruments that have spec.'s that look like this: Junfauren Quintadon 8', Schmal schpindal Foeten 4' Schreechy Octave 2' Mixtuur 1/2' XII, Sordid Farten Regaal 8' Pedal Pitsal Gedackt 16' Well I think you can see what I mean. Try to play liturature or a service on that scream machine. Well I exaggerate only slightly about some 50's to 80's knockoffs. I cringe everytime I see one. Yuck!! Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Great Jazz Pipe Organ CD from Germany From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 11:48:07 EST   Greetings all, =20 For the more free-spirited of us, there is a a great CD I just purchased =20 from Germany through OHS. Barbara Dennerlein plays her own compositions on t= his =20 CD. just to show you that she can play other compositions, she includes=20 Waller's "Ain't Misbehavin' " for our listening pleasure. I personally like= her=20 "Rankett Blues" which is a snappy piece featuring a buzzing, Kinura-style r= eed=20 to do the melody. =20 Her skill on the Hammond B-3 is very evident on this recording.=20 =20 The CD is entitled, Spiritual Movement No. 1. =20   _http://store.yahoo.com/ohscatalog/spmono1.html_=20 (http://store.yahoo.com/ohscatalog/spmono1.html)=20 =20 Musically, Stan Krider =20 OHS states the following about this very catchy recording: =20 <snip> Jazz Pipe Organ   Barbara Dennerlein:=20 =20 Jazz organist Barbara Dennerlein records her first CD on a pipe organ in =20 great acoustics. This CD has been the subject of much discussion for its qua= lity =20 of music making and sound. The recent organ was built by the Goll firm of =20 Switzerland for St. Martin Church in Memmingen, Germany.   Introduction Rankett Blues Pendel der Zeit Tin Tin Duo Holy Blues Change of Pace I Miss You Spiritual Movement Longing Waltzing Pipes Ain=E2=80=99t Misbehavin=E2=80=99 Psychedelic Cluster =20  
(back) Subject: Re: pipe organs in chapels of churches From: <Voicer40@aol.com> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 2004 11:48:12 -0500   Sand - the Second Baptist Church in Houston has three pipe organs. The = former church has a four-manual Casavant, another chapel has a = three-manual Visser-Rowland tracker (actually a two manual organ with the = third manual being simply a coupler manual), and in the main church, there = is a five-manual Rodgers with 190+ ranks.   D. Keith Morgan  
(back) Subject: Virtual Organs From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 15:40:14 -0000   Those interested in virtual organs which can be played from a midi = keyboard or midified console via their computer might like to look at the the = latest version of jOrgan - version 2.   This is a major upgrade and offers many extra facilities like second = touch, transferrable divisions as well as the basic things like swells, = combination pistons, couplers etc. It is totally flexible, can be set up to have as = many divisions, stops and controls as you wish, can be configured as a = classical or theatre organ, with knob or tab on-screen controls as well as control from an external midi source.   The author's website is at http://jorgan.sourceforge.net/ but also see my website below, where, by way of example, there is a fully worked out 4 manual classical organ and a couple of theatre organs. Also a jOrgan Notes =   file which has full if rather disorganised info on setting up and use = (there is no Helpfile yet).   jOrgan can use sounds from any soundfont - inlcuding my 'English Organ' = and 'Cinema Organ', also Jeux and others.   It's all free. And, just in time for Christmas, it's got Sleigh Bells !!!   Regards,   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/mcons.html    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4966 - 12/05/04 From: "gary jenkins" <gary.jenkins6@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:54:22 -0600     ----- Original Message ----- From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2004 4:01 AM Subject: PipeChat Digest #4966 - 12/05/04     PipeChat Digest #4966 - Sunday, December 5, 2004   Re: Chivas Regal 4/5' by "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Re: Chivas Regal 4/5' by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>    
(back) Subject: Re: Chivas Regal 4/5' From: "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 21:45:00 -0800 (PST)   Greetings!   Ahem. AAAAAhem.   Does one's voice change into a Voix Celeste (celestial voice) as well?   [chuckle, chuckle....]   But yes, Chivas Regal is the one scotch that I have been able to enjoy over the past years... Other brands are just not that satisfactory...   Best wishes to all..     Morton Belcher fellow list member...   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D     --- Jan Nijhuis <nijhuis@email.com> wrote:   > for that matter, one gets the "tremulants". :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Georgewbayley@aol.com > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: Chivas Regal 4/5' > Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2004 14:38:24 EST > > > The humour is that when one indulges too heavily > in Chivas Regal or any other > > spirit, for that matter, one gets the "shakes". > > > > George > -- > Jan Nijhuis > nijhuis@email.com   George,   Not always. There is a Noehren organ in Chicago that has a Chevas Regal = on the positiv division. As I recall, one this organ, the stop turned on a light in the swell chamber.     Gary > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Chivas Regal 4/5' From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 00:17:15 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Most definitely....complete with heraldic trumpet and a benign expression.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Jan Nijhuis <nijhuis@email.com> wrote:   > Ahh, a flask for the lonely organist in his/her cold > organ loft. Does the console come with a flying lady > hood ornament too? > >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com