PipeChat Digest #4970 - Monday, December 6, 2004
 
Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Diaphonic pipes
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
fUNERAL HOME ORGANS
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?
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RE: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net>
Re:Funeral Homes with pipe organs
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PipeChat IRC this evening,
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Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?
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RE: PipeChat Digest #4968 - 12/06/04
  by "David Scambler" <davids@bmm.com>
Re: Funeral Homes with pipe organs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
25 note pedalboard
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Re: 25 note pedalboard
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Re: Diaphonic pipes
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Re: 25 note pedalboard
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Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net>
Re: Diaphonic pipes
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Quasi- Diaphonic pipes
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Re: Diaphonic pipes
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: 25 note pedalboard
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(back) Subject: Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:23:35 EST   My commentary is blended with some knowledge of friends and colleagues who =   are in the funeral industry, and my own experience working with them. I = am sure my friend Monty Bennett can add some valuable info to this post as well.   Memphis Funeral Home down at 1177 Union Avenue, right at the edge of downtown, had not one but two pipe organs. They were Wicks instruments = and, I believe, were the "Fuga DeLuxe" models. They were two manuals and 3-5 = ranks with chimes. They were installed in the two chapels, both of which had rich = oak panel walls and real leaded stained glass. The larger of the two chapels held 300-400 people from what I recall, and the organs were in small rooms = immediately behind screens at the front of the chapels, in the chancel, immediately = behind where the caskets would be displayed. One of the organs is now in the = chapel of Our Lady of Perpetual Help Catholic Church on Poplar Avenue in = Germantown, and the other is in another Catholic Church further out from the city = limits. The name escapes me at the moment.   Cosmopolitan Funeral Home, also in Union, had pipe organs as well and, I believe, they were Mollers. That building, built a little later than = Memphis Funeral Home and also scooped up by greedy SCI, is also some other kind of =   business now but at least the building still remains.   The Norton Funeral Home in Cheraw, SC also has a Wicks Fuga DeLuxe of = almost the same identical disposition as the former Memphis Funeral Home organs.   Personal notes: Sadly, when SCI bought out Memphis Funeral Homes and "consolidated" (DON'T =   get me started!) they tore down that beautiful, venerable, gracious old = building that was opened in the 30's and ugly condos went up. My entire family = went through there, Elvis Presley was embalmed there and most anybody who was anybody in Memphis went through there. It is a disgrace that it is gone = and I know many others who feel the same way. They blamed the closing and razing of = the building on the boom in the suburbs, but what of the fact that SO many = people (myself included) have bought homes back in Memphis and that the downtown, =   midtown and riverfront areas are now absolutely booming? Gee, did SCI's = greed perhaps take down a beautiful and needed facility a little too soon? = (Well, they have done that all over the country and I hear are paying for their = own greed now as they are not doing quite as well as they thought they would. = I can tell you that their service is awful.)   Why do I care so much? Call me sentimental I guess, but as I said my = family went through there and we were there so much, I cannot imagine what it = will be like having to deal with these suburban, one level, 60's moderne "places" called funeral homes with acoustical ceilings when the one in Midtown has = leaded glass, carves banisters, chandeliers, sumptuous antique furniture, = oriental rugs, high ceilings and every other kind of elegant and period decor the = 30's afforded. As comparison, Memorial Park (built in the late 70's) has an = old Allen and the current Memphis Funeral Home on Poplar has a Hammond as does = the Collierville chapel. Gee, now THAT'S progress.   Awhile back I was speaking with a rep from SCI who didn't know that I had worked with funeral directors in the past and knew as much as I did on the =   subject. As we got further into the conversation and I had complained = rather assertively about their tearing down Memphis Funeral Home for their greed = and the fact that condos were going up, he snipped at me in a rather smart ass = tone "would you think we were even more terrible if I told you that we tore = down the original Holiday Inn Motel on Summer Avenue to build 'Family Funeral = Care'?" I think that says it all, the almighty dollar rates higher than service, convenience or the personal touch and level of comfort so necessary in = dealing with bereaving families. Not to offend anyone I know who has used Family = Funeral Service, but it is a bargain basement assembly-line funeral home that = gives you the bare minimum basics in funeral care. Everything is a la carte = (literally) and, yes, you do save money but you sore as hell sacrifice service and facilities. THAT I can tell you. The few times they have done funerals = at Holy Rosary they have proven themselves the complete, insensitive, sloppy, = incompetent jerks that they really are!   As a final footnote, they (Family Funeral Care) absolutely refuse to work with church staffs on the financial arrangements for church musicians and = clergy at funerals whereas, at least, the other funeral homes will. Thank you, = SCI.   By the way, I have photos of the old Memphis Funeral Home on Union if = anyone wants to see them.   -Scott Foppiano, Memphis   Scott F. Foppiano Memphis, TN (scottfop@aol.com) Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.  
(back) Subject: Re: Diaphonic pipes From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:26:58 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Forgive my stupidity, but if one is going to have a "pulse generator" or some other vibrating device creating a tone, and then passed into some kind of acoustic chamber, coiled or even folded horn, isn't that a loudspeaker?   With the use of a digitally generated pulse, you have an electronic bass!   Sorry to spoil the speculative fun!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- Andy Lawrence <andy@ablorgans.com> wrote:   > I've often > wondered if car horn technology, with the right > resonator, could be used to > make windless, but accoustic, reed stops..... > .......the point is, > something vibrates electrically without wind, and > the resonator (usually > coiled up on a car horn) shapes and amplifies the > sound. And its tunable > with a knob. >     __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: fUNERAL HOME ORGANS From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:48:41 -0600   There is a funeral home in Sellersburg, Indiana (about 15 miles north of Louisville, KY) that built a brand new facility about four years ago and installed a rebuilt Kilgen II/P.   Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? From: "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:58:21 -0600   Many funeral homes installed small self-contained pipe organs that = played rolls, including Aeolian and Seeburg, of jukebox fame. I have = restored a Seeburg Mortuary Organ that played rolls that were meant for = background music. The instrument even contained a piano and a small = four-note chime that played random notes! Another Seeburg I restored was organ only...three ranks and a = Quintadena. It played three types of rolls with expression automatically = encoded. The music available was typical funeral music...even Chopin's Marche = Funebre. Berley A. Firmin II
(back) Subject: RE: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:12:27 -0500   Morley-Bedford Funeral Chapel in Toronto has a 2m. Casavant, "unified" = with about 4 ranks. Built in the 1950's for the owners of the business, it was installed in the basement of what was once a medium sized house with the "tone" transmitted to the chapel via a duct and then through a vent in the floor. The organ has been relocated perhaps 3 times to different areas of the basement to allow for changes to the operation of the funeral home. = Last time I saw it the organ was placed in a closet in the casket show room.   Another old-well known, but temporarily forgotten funeral home located in downtown Toronto had a O. Jaques unit organ. It was "given away" and I can only guess it was replaced by an electronic organ perhaps 15 years ago.   You grew up in a funeral home? I suppose you know the "business" to some degree. An old friend who started his career as a Funeral director at Morley-Bedfords is now President of a large funeral supply company in Springfield Ohio. Does the name "Champion Funeral Supply Company" sound familiar? They've been in business since the 1870's.   Regards AjMead   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Jerry Richer Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 11:15 AM To: PipeChat Subject: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs?     Have you ever seen a pipe organ in a Funeral Home? Can you describe it? I know they exist. I've never seen one. I'm curious I guess because = I grew up in a Funeral Home and never heard of a pipe organ in one.   Jerry Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software, = www.chirpingbat.com     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:08:42 -0500   I thought I sent this earlier, but I haven't seen it. My apologies if it = shows up twice.   In the July 2004 edition of The Diapason, there is an excellent article on = Mortuary Organs written by R.E. Coleberd. It has lots of great photos, = too. Brent Johnson ORGANLive - Music of the organ on demand http://www.organlive.com brentj@organlive.com   > > From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com> > Date: 2004/12/06 Mon AM 11:14:51 EST > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? > > Have you ever seen a pipe organ in a Funeral Home? Can you = describe > it? I know they exist. I've never seen one. I'm curious I guess = because I > grew up in a > Funeral Home and never heard of a pipe organ in one. > > Jerry > Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software, = www.chirpingbat.com > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re:Funeral Homes with pipe organs From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:17:25 EST   There was an article in The Diapason several months ago about pipe organs specifically marketed to funeral homes by major builders, such as Moller, = Wicks, and Aeolian-Skinner.   Most funeral homes that have pipe organs have Moller Artistes, Wicks Fuga/Fuga Deluxe, or Kilgen Petite Ensembles. Schoenstein built a number = of small unit organs back in the 1930's and 1940's for funeral homes in San = Francisco and on the West Coast. Usually, all these organs just consisted of a Flute, String, and a = Diapason, often with Chimes. Sometimes, there was a Vox Humana, or there would be a =   Celeste, but obviously for the type of useage, a clasically oriented = ensemble was not wanted or needed, as soft background music was what was required.   The funeral home organ of choice usually ended up being a Hammond for ease = of maintenance and for price, but discriminating funeral directors often = chose pipe organs because it gave their establishments an air of "class."   In the Southeast, Hall-Wynn Funeral Service, Durham, NC had a pipe organ = in their chapel, but it was replaced by an Ahlborn-Galanti a couple of years = ago. The pipes are still in place in the chapel ceiling. Norton Funeral Home, Cheraw, SC, has a Wicks Fuga Deluxe www.nortonfuneralofcheraw.com of = which there are pictures on the website. I think that HM Patterson & Son, Spring Hill =   Chapel, in Atlanta had a pipe organ, not sure if they still do or not.   I would think that Frank E. Cambell in NYC and that Joseph Gawler's in Washington DC probably have or had pipe organs, given the type clientele = they serve.   Now, a footnote about Service Corporation International, who owned the funeral homes that Scott Foppiano talked about. I worked for SCI for a = while (4 years) and they paid my way to mortuary school, which was part of my = reason for leaving Calvary Church in Charlotte, NC. Yes the company is concerned about money, but those grand old buildings = cost a fortune to keep open, and even more to maintain. If Memphis Funeral = Home was like the SCI firm I worked for, they kept the public areas up, but the = back areas were in really bad shape--to the point that some of the staff areas don't have heating or air conditioning. At least the pipe organs weren't = just junked, they were sold off to churches who will continue to use them. As = to Family Funeral Care's honorarium policy, they probably feel that it's up = to the family to pay you. The church is a third party fee, so honestly, the = funeral home doesn't have to collect or pay. They do it as a courtesy for the = family, but, as in a lot of the "discount" funeral service providers, anything = like death certificates, obituaries, honorariums, etc. (Third Party expenses) = they don't take care of those things, because they take up clerical time and = expense, and that is one area where they can cut overhead. They give those responsibilities to the family to take care of...if the family doesn't do = it, they've chosen not to. They went to a discount provider for a reason, to cut back = on expenses--often because they need to save money, often because they are = just price shopping due to the fact that they WANT to save money. If they = choose to not run a long obituary or not have a church full of flowers or not give = an honorarium, it's their right. They shouldn't have to pay the church for = it's ministry. Sorry, but as both a musician and a funeral director, I see = both sides of the argument, and in the case of a funeral--I'm for the family.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: PipeChat IRC this evening, From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 16:47:35 -0500   All members of PipeChat are invited to join us in the PipeChat IRC any Friday and Monday evening - beginning at 9.00 PM Eastern Time.   To find out more about the Chat room, or how to get into it, go to PipeChat-L web page at http://www.pipechat.org/   You will find out all you need to know to join us.   Tonight at 9.00 PM, - I hope that we will see you there.   (I may be able to show up some time after 10.00 pm, for I shall be at a meeting of the Kingston Fermentation Society, tasting ales, lagers, and beers. This could lead to a certain amount of incoherence, - however, I = do not have to drive there myself, - I am being picked up and brought back home by taxi).   Cheers,   Bob Conway        
(back) Subject: Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 16:51:01 EST   In a message dated 12/6/2004 11:15:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, jerry@ChirpingBat.Com writes: Have you ever seen a pipe organ in a Funeral Home? This is going to be a fun thread!   Angeles Funeral Home in South Central Los Angeles has a 7-9 rank Wicks. (They also have 10-15 funerals A DAY!!!!)   The funeral home in the tiny town of Fowler, CA (S of Fresno) has a Moller =   Artiste.   Rose Hills in Whittier, CA has a new massive (80+ ranks) Quimby?   Funeral Home in Ventura, CA has a Wicks "Fuga."   There's got to be hundreds, if not thousands of Funeral homes with pipe organs.     Steven Skinner Minister of Music First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA  
(back) Subject: RE: PipeChat Digest #4968 - 12/06/04 From: "David Scambler" <davids@bmm.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:56:04 +1100     please ignore this email. It's just to legitimize your emails in our SPAM detector.  
(back) Subject: Re: Funeral Homes with pipe organs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:00:52 -0500   On 12/6/04 4:17 PM, "RMB10@aol.com" <RMB10@aol.com> wrote:   > a clasically oriented ensemble was not wanted or needed [in a mortuary = organ], > as soft background music was what was required.   Unquestionably. Would you have any comment on changes in taste in more recent years?   Alan    
(back) Subject: 25 note pedalboard From: "David Scambler" <davids@bmm.com> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:13:42 +1100   I am thinking of buying an organ with a 25 note pedalboard. What portions = of the classical repertoire will this exclude?   dave scambler  
(back) Subject: Re: 25 note pedalboard From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 14:33:24 -0800   A fair amount (grin). Bach D Major, Bach F Major, Dupre Cortege et Litanie, Dupre g minor, Vierne 1st Syphonie come immediately to mind. It's not a good idea if you're going to use it for a practice instrument and be performing on an AGO console. Old AGO console Wurlitzers, Baldwins, Conns, Allens (avoid the short "princess" 32-note pedals, though ... they're easy to spot ... the sharps are too short), Rogers, etc. come on the market regularly, often for as little as $500 ... check the Church Organ Trader at   http://www.keyboardtrader.com/   and Theatre Organ Classified Search Page   http://barton.theatreorgans.com/adsearch.asp   Also Organ Stop in San Diego ... they often have very attractive prices, even with shipping ... they ship all over the country.   http://www.organstop.com/   There's another big used organ place in Orlando FL, but I don't remember the name right now.   Also check the classifieds in TAO and the Diapason.   Have fun!   Cheers,   Bud   David Scambler wrote:   > I am thinking of buying an organ with a 25 note pedalboard. What = portions of > the classical repertoire will this exclude? > > dave scambler > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Diaphonic pipes From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:02:36 EST   These were winded, and had one system and one resonator for each note. They were not "electronic voices."  
(back) Subject: Re: 25 note pedalboard From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:05:12 EST   It is not a question of excluding repertoire; it is a question of learning = to play on a pedalboard that your unlikely to encounter in any other organ = upon which you are asked to play. There are dozens of AGO pedalboard electronic =   keyboard instruments out there for very little money, and they most likely = sound less bad than the model with the 25-note pedalboard.  
(back) Subject: Re: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 12:25:17 -0500   There was an excellent article by R.E. Coleberd on the Mortuary organ in = the July 2004 Diapason, complete with excellent pictures.   Brent Johnson ORGANLive - Music of the organ on demand http://www.organlive.com   > > From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com> > Date: 2004/12/06 Mon AM 11:14:51 EST > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: I wonder what Funeral Homes have pipe organs? > > Have you ever seen a pipe organ in a Funeral Home? Can you = describe > it? I know they exist. I've never seen one. I'm curious I guess = because I > grew up in a > Funeral Home and never heard of a pipe organ in one. > > Jerry > Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software, = www.chirpingbat.com > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Diaphonic pipes From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:20:45 -0500   Oh, ok. That removes the last remaining possible resemblance to the car horn! :) But if winded, what was the pulse generator for?   On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:02:36 EST, TubaMagna wrote > These were winded, and had one system and one resonator for each > note. They were not "electronic voices." > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>       A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Quasi- Diaphonic pipes From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:28:18 EST     In a message dated 12/06/04 7:21:13 PM, andy@ablorgans.com writes:   << Oh, ok. That removes the last remaining possible resemblance to the = car   horn! :) But if winded, what was the pulse generator for? >>   It turned the magnet on and off, which opened and shut the pneumatic = pouch, which in turn admitted puffs of air to the resonator.   Unlike a diaphone, in which the frequency is dependent upon the dimensions =   and mass of the beater mechanism in the motor that admits the air to the resonator, the pulse generator regulates the frequency with which the = valve opens by controlling the rate at which the electromagnet is alternately energized = and uncharged.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/   ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Diaphonic pipes From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:30:27 -0500   Well, sort of, I guess. Its as close to a loudspeaker as a car horn is to = a loudspeaker. But a loudspeaker that is responsible for just one note and one tone, like an organ pipe. And the tone is produced therein, not reproduced.   I guess I would argue that it resembles a loudspeaker in the same way that = a reed pipe resembles a loudspeaker, with the added similarity that electricity is involved. You have a resonant frequency being excited by electromagnets instead of by wind.   I don't see how that should spoil any speculative fun. More of an interesting philosophical question on an already hypothetical noise maker! ;)   I suppose you might be arguing that if you're gonna do that, might as just =   use an existing system of electronic reed stops and basses and be done = with it. Good point! ;) I guess the theory is that it could be an in-between =   compromise between accoustic sound and reproduced sound. Of course, like reed organs, it would probably sound less like the real thing than the = fake thing. But whatever. I'm sure I'll never build one either way! :)   Andy     > Hello, > > Forgive my stupidity, but if one is going to have a > "pulse generator" or some other vibrating device > creating a tone, and then passed into some kind of > acoustic chamber, coiled or even folded horn, isn't > that a loudspeaker? > > With the use of a digitally generated pulse, you have > an electronic bass! > > Sorry to spoil the speculative fun! > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > --- Andy Lawrence <andy@ablorgans.com> wrote: > > > > I've often > > wondered if car horn technology, with the right > > resonator, could be used to > > make windless, but accoustic, reed stops..... > > .......the point is, > > something vibrates electrically without wind, and > > the resonator (usually > > coiled up on a car horn) shapes and amplifies the > > sound. And its tunable > > with a knob. > > > > __________________________________________________       A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: 25 note pedalboard From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 19:47:47 -0500   A lot of organ music can be played on 25 notes, but not all. Others will know better than me what will be excluded.   But as far as the different dimensions, I used to make a strict point of always playing and practicing on the same type of pedalboard, fearing that =   practicing on different ones would totally screw me up. But now I = regularly switch from 27-note flat to 32-note AGO (the two most common pedalboard types in Vermont) and recently even played a mini-recital on a 13-note = flat pedalboard where each KEY was spaced equally! (meaning that two naturals with an accidental between them were twice as far apart as two naturals, like E and F that do not have an accidental between them!) Now THAT took some getting used to! There was a time I would have feared that it would make it hard to go back to normal (it was for a little while), but I think =   the experience actually improved my technique.   I don't think it would hurt you too badly to practice on 25 notes, as long =   as they are constructed in a way that allows heel/toe playing (hinged at = the back, and keys that are longer than your shoe). When you switch to = another type, it will feel wierd at first, but after an hour or so you'll forget that its different. That's my experience anyway.   This organ better be cheap though cuz there's a lot of cheap electronic organs out there with normal AGO pedalboards!   Andy     On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 09:13:42 +1100 , David Scambler wrote > I am thinking of buying an organ with a 25 note pedalboard. What > portions of the classical repertoire will this exclude? > > dave scambler >   A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com