PipeChat Digest #4981 - Thursday, December 9, 2004
 
Re: NIGHT OF MIRACLES
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Meeting Interesting people
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
RE: Weird request
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: funeral homes- "viewing"
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Bob's Unit Instrumetn
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Organs in Hospitals
  by <Voicer40@aol.com>
Re: Bob's Unit Instrumetn
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Name that tune?
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
RE: Meeting Interesting people
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: NIGHT OF MIRACLES From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:51:34 -0500   On 12/8/04 5:59 PM, "Staffan Thuringer" <staffan_thuringer@yahoo.com.au> wrote:   > we have been doing Peterson's Christmas cantatas rotating for the last si= x or > seven years (The Night the Angels sang, A Wonder of Christmas, Love > Transcending and Night of Miracles).   > And we are going to do his 'No greater love' on Palm Sunday next year, in= stead > of the rotating CRUCIFIXION and OLIVET TO CALVARY we have been doing for > quite a few years.   > Peterson is a bit like Caleb Simper, People love to hear it, the choir lo= ves > to sing it, but, of course, many the experts say it is superficial and > bombastic.   > WE perform it with limited resources, the choir members take turns doing = the > solo. I play the organ, but occasionally walk across to the piano and pla= y one > section on that instead of the organ.   Well, all right, my dear Swedish cousin: But when on earth do you DO these things?=8Brather major productions, I gather. =B3Superficial and bombastic=B2 I can=B9t comment on=8Bbut we=B9re just too dang BUSY to contemplate yet something more!   Right at that time of the year, we're IMMENSELY involved with what must be DONE at that time. Where could people squeeze in yet ANOTHER thing at that time? And out music people=8Bthey're overWEHELMED with stuff. (Aren't yours?)   How on earth do you do it? And how do you fetch an =B3audience=B2 for it? Aren=B9t they pretty busy TOO=8Bwith liturgies four or five times during that week? Who on earth needs MORE? And WHY?   Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: Meeting Interesting people From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:39:12 EST   Thanks, Will, for the memory tap. It has been a long time since I read = it. What is the name of the book and the author. I have forgotten that, too. = Lee Re: Organists are a funny lot. Have nothing to do with them.  
(back) Subject: RE: Weird request From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 20:48:48 -0600   Now you=92re getting warmer.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of BlueeyedBear@aol.com   not a handbell fan, huh?=A0 sorry, i enjoy both worlds, having been a handbell director for several years.   then could i interest you in an organ arrangement of in a gadda da vida?=A0 oh wait, that's already been done!=A0 :)        
(back) Subject: Re: funeral homes- "viewing" From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:02:14 EST   I suppose everyone has a different opinion and experience with "viewing" = but mine is very positive. My mother died in October '03 at the age of 94. She = was in a nursing home and didn't even know me for the last year of her life. = She had alzheimers and ultimately died of cancer. Along the way she got a = serious leg infection and had to have her leg amputated. I visited her the day she =   died and she looked like.....hell.   I assumed the funeral home would do the best they could with what they had = to work with. My mother was prepared by a young lady just out of John Gupton Mortuary School in Nashville. When they opened the casket, I couldn't = believe it. The young lady had worked a miracle. My mother looked like she was in her = 50s and was beautiful. It almost erased all the bad recent memories I had of = the way she had looked. I'm really glad my last memory of her is as she looked = in her casket. The funeral was expensive but worth every penny we paid.   To keep this on topic, the funeral home has a Hammond.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Bob's Unit Instrumetn From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:13:51 -0600   Actually, I have heard Bob Elm's unit instrument in Australia......via CD. It sounds very nice.   I think that musicians need to understand, too, that we are more likely to notice out of tune pitches than the average person. I was somewhere a couple of years ago and the piano was atrociously out of tune.......I = don't mean a little bit......I mean severely, as in "surely hadn't seen a tuner = in 15 years!). I commented to my mom that the piano sure needed tuning, and she said, "Oh, really? I hadn't noticed." My mom is actually probably a bit more knowledgeable about music than the average person in the pew, = too.   So while a unison-derived mutation *might* drive some of us crazy, I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the folk in the pews would never notice. Frankly, mutation ranks are a bit weird anyway, aren't they? I mean, = other than something like bagpipes or an Appalachian drone, very few instruments have mutations in that sense. Don't get me wrong--I LIKE them--but they = are hardly typical in the world of music. Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: Re: Organs in Hospitals From: <Voicer40@aol.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:41:50 EST   I know of a few hospital chapel organs. St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital in Houston, Texas has a two-manual Kilgen.   Walter Reed Army Hospital in Washington, D.C. has a three-manual E. M. = Skinner organ that Virgil Fox played often during WWII.   The Balboa Naval Hospital in San Diego has/had a two-manual Hall organ.   St. Luke's Hospital in New York City has/had a two-manual Aeolian-Skinner = (?).   If I run across any more names, I'll post them.   D. Keith Morgan  
(back) Subject: Re: Bob's Unit Instrumetn From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 22:43:13 -0500   This is dangerous thinking. (Well, ok, not dangerous like skating on ice = in march, but you know). :)   I play a horrible organ. Everyone who plays it, including me, is a volunteer, but I'm the only organist. Despite my telling them not to, = they repeatedly used the unison-derived spitz-quint, and the swelltogreat 16 while playing hymns. The latter was done because they don't use pedals = and they thought it needed the gravity. This might work in certain accoustics =   and certain voicing, but definitely not in our case. But I was constantly =   getting comments about how unpleasant the organ was. From the 95% of the people who didn't know the difference. They couldn't tell me what they didn't like, but they knew they didn't like it. Their conclusion was that =   they just don't like the sound of the organ (any organ). The same people would sometimes say it sounded nice when I played it though   Finally, without telling anyone (I still haven't told them), I disabled = the subcoupler and the mutation. None of the organists have noticed, but all = of a sudden so one is saying they don't like the organ anymore. I've even asked a few, and most have said they hadn't thought about it. Later, because I had brought it up, they'd say, yeah, it really doesn't bother me =   anymore! A couple even said they _liked_ it! Woah!   They don't know the difference, but it still makes a difference!   I do concede that we all draw the line in different places and its up for grabs. I draw the line at unison-derived mutations. Not on principle, = but because it just always sounds bad. I actually draw the line quite loosely = I think... I haven't found an organ yet that I haven't learned to love (sometimes it takes quite a bit of familiarity to figure out how to get = the best out of it). I also tolerate some pretty serious out-of-tuneness in = the interest of saving money and/or time. But I have come to refuse to use certain stops on certain organs. So don't think I'm overly fussy. I'm = not one of these organists who must throw away every organ that isn't perfect and start over. But whatever we may disagree on as to where to draw the line, let's not allow ourselves to say "they won't know the difference". = If it sounds bad to us, it sounds bad to them too... they just can't quantify =   it.   Andy     On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 21:13:51 -0600, First Christian Church of Casey, IL = wrote > Actually, I have heard Bob Elm's unit instrument in > Australia......via CD. It sounds very nice. > > I think that musicians need to understand, too, that we are more > likely to notice out of tune pitches than the average person. I was > somewhere a couple of years ago and the piano was atrociously out of > tune.......I don't mean a little bit......I mean severely, as in > "surely hadn't seen a tuner in 15 years!). I commented to my mom > that the piano sure needed tuning, and she said, "Oh, really? I > hadn't noticed." My mom is actually probably a bit more > knowledgeable about music than the average person in the pew, too. > > So while a unison-derived mutation *might* drive some of us crazy, > I'd be willing to bet that 95% of the folk in the pews would never = notice. > Frankly, mutation ranks are a bit weird anyway, aren't they? I mean, > other than something like bagpipes or an Appalachian drone, very > few instruments have mutations in that sense. Don't get me wrong--I > LIKE them--but they are hardly typical in the world of music. Dennis > Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >       A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Name that tune? From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 13:21:47 +0800   ASH GROVE 12.11.12.11.D., Traditional Welsh melody is most commonly assoici= ated with "Let All Things Now Living" Jack Hayford, of Living Way, has also done a setting called "On This Christ= mas Day" -- appropriate for the season:   On This Christmas Day   Lord Jesus, our Savior, the gift of the Father=92s favor Appeared in a lowly manger on this Christmas Day. With carols loudly ringing, and bright voices gladly singing Our praise joyously we=92re bringing on this Christmas Day.   There is naught ever to compare with The love He has come to share with us, God come as man to bear with us all of our need.   And thus the celebration of God=92s gracious salvation That themes all our celebration on this Christmas Day.   Copyright 1988 by Jack W. Hayford, All Rights Reserved. http://www.livingway.org/christmas_lyrics.html   I would suggest any number of hymnals include the tune, but out of the six = I just consulted, only the Trinity Hymnal (Great Commission Pupblications) = includes the hymntune.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Name that tune? Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 07:45:50 -0600   >=20 > Good Morning: >=20 > This tune is also set with the text: >=20 > "The Master hath come." > David Lowe has a fine organ arrangement > published by LifeWay. It is in a collection > of his works called: "Come, Christians, > Join to Sing." >=20 > F. Richard Burt >=20 > . >=20 >=20 > > It is The Ashgrove and it is set as a hymn tune (Together in > Song Number 531 > > "Sent forth by God's Blessing") > > Bob Elms >=20 > > > Can anybody put a name (and a source for a complete score) to > the tune > > > that begins with the fragment to be found at > > > http://www.hb.quik.com/jamesl/test1.mid > > > ??? >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: RE: Meeting Interesting people From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 08:32:24 -0000   I'll see if I can find it. It was just a little pamphlet really. The name was "Bluff your way in Music" - part of a series of "Bluff your way in..." books. Not sure who the author/editor was.   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of OMusic@aol.com Sent: 09 December 2004 02:39 To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Meeting Interesting people   Thanks, Will, for the memory tap. It has been a long time since I read = it.   What is the name of the book and the author. I have forgotten that, too. Lee Re: Organists are a funny lot. Have nothing to do with them.   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>