PipeChat Digest #4997 - Tuesday, December 14, 2004
 
Re: lilies and Battle Hymns
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Searching for music of Otto Olsson
  by "Staffan Thuringer" <staffan_thuringer@yahoo.com.au>
Re: DENNIS JAMES - ASPHALT - CASTRO THEATRE - Monday 1/10/05
  by <Victorgan@aol.com>
Re: But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: lilies and Battle Hymns
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: "SOUND OF MUSIC" WEDDING AND ORGAN (x post)
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: who wrote "this is the day which the lord has made"?
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
The Queen and the Civil Way
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Blenheim Palace
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: lilies and Battle Hymns
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: lilies and Battle Hymns
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
B-3 Source
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Philadelphia Convention Hall Moller - from another list - crosspost
  by "Harry E. Martenas" <harrym@epix.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: lilies and Battle Hymns From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 06:51:55 EST   >So, if you=B9re saying they=B9re technically not in the Union, I have to th= ink >it=B9s because they never officially REjoined the union   That's what I meant--I was referring to joining the Union AFTER the=20 Confederacy, the Battle Hymn days.   Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: Searching for music of Otto Olsson From: "Staffan Thuringer" <staffan_thuringer@yahoo.com.au> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 23:26:28 +1100 (EST)     "jlinger@snet.net" wrote:   >What is the Swedish word for epiphany?   It is 'Trettondagen' (the thirteenth day)   Staffan       --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies.  
(back) Subject: Re: DENNIS JAMES - ASPHALT - CASTRO THEATRE - Monday 1/10/05 From: <Victorgan@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:39:01 EST   Hey Dennis!   Sounds like it is going to be a great movie!!!   Good to hear from you. Will you be in Pasadena for the ATOS Convention in =   July 2005? I've never been to one and thought this might be the one to = attend.   I hope you have a wonderful holiday season!   Best to you,   Vic  
(back) Subject: Re: But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 07:39:31 -0600   As everyone seems to agree the Peterson is out of print - is there a setting of this text that is in print that you could recommend - fancy or plain, matters not. Or do you know a source for the Peterson - even a single copy?   Thanks, Margo   Liquescent wrote: > Here's the whole thing directly from the Prayer Book, which omits the > opening "But" ... as do I in performance. I simply tie the first two > chords together and begin with "I". The Peterson setting ends with "and > so shall we ever be with the Lord." > > Cheers, > > Bud > > The Epistle. 1 Thessalonians iv. 13. > > I WOULD not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are =   > asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. For if we =   > believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in =   > Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of > the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord =   > shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall > descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and > with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: then we > which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the > clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the > Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. > >   -- Dr. Margo Dillard Organist, FUMC, Lewisville, TX Musical Feast Choral Society Dillard Piano & Organ Studio    
(back) Subject: Re: But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:07:33 -0600   Margo: In 1961 or 1962 I sang in one of the Peterson contatas (Night of Miracles ?) at the Northway Baptist Church in Dallas. Peterson was par for their course in cantatas at that time. You might try calling Howard Lee at Royal Haven Baptist Church in Dallas. Howard has a huge collection of muisc similar to the Peterson. Church number is 214-351-6626. Howard is retired now, but the church secretary can refer you to his home phone number, where cares for a wife who can't get around well. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: Re: But I Would Not Have You To Be Ignorant, Brethren From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:18:36 -0500     On Dec 14, 2004, at 10:07 AM, F. Richard Burt wrote:   > Margo: > > In 1961 or 1962 I sang in one of the Peterson contatas (Night of > Miracles ?) at the Northway Baptist Church in Dallas. Peterson > was par for their course in cantatas at that time. > >   I wonder if Peterson composed an equivalent Passion Cantata?   Randy Runyon    
(back) Subject: Re: lilies and Battle Hymns From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:35:10 -0500   On 12/14/04 6:51 AM, "RMB10@aol.com" <RMB10@aol.com> wrote:   >> I have to think it=B9s because [So. Car.] never officially REjoined the un= ion >=20 > That's what I meant--I was referring to joining the Union AFTER the > Confederacy, the Battle Hymn days. >=20 Understood. Curious. Was it ever awkward for them to participate in federal elections of the Reunited States, during Reconstruction, etc.? (I suspect that the Union argument would be that since, in its view, the separation was illegal, it never actually occurred in a legal sense.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: "SOUND OF MUSIC" WEDDING AND ORGAN (x post) From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:35:58 EST   In a message dated 12/13/04 2:21:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, Joshwwhite@aol.com writes:   > I have the Ashley Miller "Wedding March from Sound of Music." In a book = at > the church. It leaves out "How do you solve a problem like Maria" and = sort > of embellishes on the main theme of the intro. All in all I think it is = about > 3 minutes long.   i believe that's the second section of music in the film, which is played = by organ and orchestra. the intro into that, which is played on organ alone, = is not included. that's the part i transcribed.  
(back) Subject: Re: who wrote "this is the day which the lord has made"? From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:37:30 EST   THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!   this makes life SO much easier now!   muchos danke.   scot  
(back) Subject: The Queen and the Civil Way From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:30:37 -0600   I can't verify it off hand, but my understanding is that Queen Elizabeth owned a large plantation in Mississippi. Whether she does or not doesn't bother me either way........no reason why she couldn't if she chose to.   I suspect the real estate holdings of Britain's royal family are extensive and worldwide. She probably has many properties she doesn't even know she owns--they are just pieces on an inventory list.   Re: The Civil War: My understanding is that in the south it is sometimes referred to as "The War of Northern Aggression."   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Re: Blenheim Palace From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 11:27:50 EST   Dear Will: The Blenheim organ seems to be a very complete four manual and pedal. Nothing small about this organ as someone opined. It appears to be the size of the average cathedral installation, while not disgustingly huge, it is complete. Well, it could use a tierce in the swell. Ron  
(back) Subject: Re: lilies and Battle Hymns From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 12:03:30 -0600   The men (and back then they were all men) who had participated in the=20 Confederate States were barred for some years from voting during=20 reconstruction, so the early post-war elections involved those who had been= =20 disenfranchised (Blacks included), who didn't find it at all awkward! Once= =20 the secessionists had been readmitted to citizenship and voting, they=20 gradually forced out the former slaves from elected office, and set up "Jim= =20 Crow" laws to establish segregation as the law of the state. That lasted up= =20 until the 1960s, which some of us can remember. Kip in MO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 9:35 AM Subject: Re: lilies and Battle Hymns     On 12/14/04 6:51 AM, "RMB10@aol.com" <RMB10@aol.com> wrote:   >> I have to think it=B9s because [So. Car.] never officially REjoined the= =20 >> union > > That's what I meant--I was referring to joining the Union AFTER the > Confederacy, the Battle Hymn days. > Understood. Curious. Was it ever awkward for them to participate in federal elections of the Reunited States, during Reconstruction, etc.? (I suspect that the Union argument would be that since, in its view, the separation was illegal, it never actually occurred in a legal sense.)   Alan     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>         Li  
(back) Subject: Re: lilies and Battle Hymns From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:28:04 -0500   On 12/14/04 1:03 PM, "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> wrote:   > the early post-war elections involved those who had been > disenfranchised (Blacks included), who didn't find it at all awkward! = Once > the secessionists had been readmitted to citizenship and voting, they > gradually forced out the former slaves from elected office, and set up = "Jim > Crow" laws to establish segregation as the law of the state. That lasted = up > until the 1960s, which some of us can remember   Ah, yes. My first visit to the Deep South was in 1961, when I was 29. Amazing to see realities that, up to then, had been for me only discussion fodder in the classroom!   Thanks for clarifications!   Alan    
(back) Subject: B-3 Source From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 13:58:42 -0600   I think it was this list where someone wanted more info about Hammonds in ref. to selling a C-2. Here's the other website I couldn't remember: http://www.b3hammond.com/     Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: Philadelphia Convention Hall Moller - from another list - crosspost From: "Harry E. Martenas" <harrym@epix.net> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:32:52 -0500   Paul Marchesano (OHS councilor) reported on orgue-l:   "On the concert hall organ topic, I sadly report that the 1930 M.P. Moeller organ of c. 90 ranks, built for the Philadelphia, PA Civic Center (USA) is in the process of being removed to storage for an indefinite time and has no relocation target as of yet. The University of Pennsylvania Health System bought the property and are razing the building as well as its neighbor, originally the Maritime Museum, built c.1780, to construct a new cancer research center. The deal was brokered between the city and the health system quietly, behind the scenes and only announced about a week ago to the general public.=20   There exist some recordings of the organ being played by various theatre and classical organists and the rolls were apparently also recorded in the 1990s. The hall seated 7000 people and the massive scaling of this magnum opus of Mr. Whitehead will surely make it a difficult organ to relocate. It is my opinion that it could only possibly go into a very large cathedral (with enormous space available for the organ) or into a rail station. One would hope that we can make it attractive to Amtrak to install the organ in their restored flagship station here in Philadelphia, built 1934. See: http://www.30thstreetstation.com/"   To which Jonathan Ambrosino added:   "This is probably the finest M=F6ller organ of the non-theatre type = (many agree that the Atlanta Fox is the firm's magnum opus in that regard). Like Paul, I originally thought it was Richard O. Whitelegg's work, but subsequent research indicates that Whitelegg was still at Welte in 1931 when the Philadelphia M=F6ller was completed, coming to Hagerstown later in 1931 as Kimball was absorbing -- "re-combining", in the words of their advertisment -- Welte.   At any rate, the Philadelphia instrument's authorship would make an interesting study. It has many interesting tonal features, including bold mixtures with tierces and septiemes and a belled Swell 8' chorus Trumpet."   Console photo:=20 http://www.fullorgan.com/moller/organ/organs/theatre/t08.html   organ being built up in the M=F6ller erecting hall: http://www.fullorgan.com/moller/organ/organs/theatre/t05.html   32' Open Wood in the M=F6ller erecting hall: http://www.fullorgan.com/moller/organ/organs/theatre/t06.html   Several pictures of the exterior of the civic center: http://www.robbender.com/photos/philadelphia/buildings/civiccenter/   Article about the salvage of architectural materials from the Civic Center: http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/10149901.htm?1c   Sadly, the link on this page http://www.orgel.com/music/lisn-e.html to a Real Audio file of the instrument is not working.   Harry Martenas   PS: Several pictures of the Reginald Foort Touring Organ are also to be found at http://www.fullorgan.com/moller/organ/organs/theatre/