PipeChat Digest #5029 - Friday, December 24, 2004
Re: O HOly Night
  by <RVScara@aol.com>
Re: Austin Opus 952; First United Methodist Church; Saratoga  Springs, Ne
  by <RVScara@aol.com>
A most surprising piano
  by "John Walter Reimer" <jreimer@pnc.com.au>
bass in a piano
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: 32" sound in speakers
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>

(back) Subject: Re: O HOly Night From: <RVScara@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 16:45:16 EST   In a message dated 12/23/2004 2:38:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, dgb137@mac.com writes:   On Thursday, December 23, 2004, at 01:47 PM, DudelK@aol.com wrote:   > Given the date on the calendar and the fact that it may have had great =   > attachment for the dear deceased, I wouldn't have hesitated to do it. > Many years ago two of my father's best friends died the same year--one > on Dec. 23 and one on Dec. 26. And many years later I went to my best > friend's mother's funeral which came right after Christmas and the > church was all beautifully and tastefully decorated and lovely and > actually seemed appropriate since the mother of this large Irish > family was very big on Christmas and decorations. Sometimes I think we > get a bit too caught up in being right about certain things and forget > we are dealing with people and their emotions and needs at very > critical times. > > But what do I know.         Confronted with this frequently; do 50-60 funerals a year and 2 dozen weddings. Pastor is now writing protocols for weddings and funerals, = specifically addressing appropriate music for both occasions because of the new = emphasis on keeping it liturgical; however, there are pastoral considerations that = can allow some leeway here and there. It may sound "political" when it could depend on who it is! But there may be good reason to allow some tolerance = for a pillar of the parish vs someone who attends only Christmas and Easter or = for a service at which most are not members of the denomination (in our case, RCs). Just prior to starting the service and at the Recessional, neither of = which are technically "part of the liturgy," we have allowed reasonably = acceptable secular music requests, i.e., Danny Boy, Sound of Music, type of things. =   Eulogies in the service are being denied except for one of those = "pastoral" reasons.. The funeral home before the church service or afterward at = the burial site are the recommended times and places. I pass the buck to the Pastor = to handle these non-religious music requests and he is more than willing to = do so. Bob Scara St Paul RC Burlington, NJ  
(back) Subject: Re: Austin Opus 952; First United Methodist Church; Saratoga Springs, New York From: <RVScara@aol.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:57:16 EST   In a message dated 12/23/2004 4:12:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   On 12/21/04 10:23 PM, "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> wrote:   > It is hard for us organ buffs to think this, but the organ is not main stream > at the moment, and may never be again.       I've said it before; how is it they pack 'em in at Dickinson HS in Wilmington, DE for every performance, about 6 a year, a thousand people = each time. I suspect they do reasonably well at other TO concerts. Theater pipe = organs still bring in crowds and the majority are not Theater Organists.. WHY? = Every once in a while there are classical numbers performed and the crowd = applauds equally as loud but not a steady diet.of it. Who does the crowd consist of at the classical literature pipe organ concerts....I think Pipe Organists for the most part. You might say that's comparing the Country Music crowd to the Ballet patrons. Well, sometimes you got to play to the crowd if you want them to = come around. I think it is difficult to convince a non-organist to get enthralled = about something they may hear, at the most, once a week for part of an hour or = so. Does their pipe (or other) organist give them an uplifting, inspired = feeling. Those are younger generations of people paying the bills and making the decisions now. Pipe organ enthusiasts are not many in number. Maybe if = a few more of us played like an RMB we could get more organ converts.  
(back) Subject: A most surprising piano From: "John Walter Reimer" <jreimer@pnc.com.au> Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 10:30:20 +1100   Since pianos have become a topic for discussion, I thought I might try to send my own story. (I recently tried to send this story when funerals were the going topic, but I must have sent it incorrectly, because I don't = think it appeared.)   I recently retired after 36 years of Anglican parish ministry in the = Diocese of Sydney, Australia. Early in my ministry, as an assistant minister of a country parish, I was called to take a funeral at an aboriginal settlement some miles out of = town. The service was to be held in the "community hall", and the burial quite close by - just a short walk. On learning that the hall contained a piano and that it was also used for church services and so hymnbooks were available, I planned to use a hymn or two in the service. I would play for them.   At the appropriate time I walked across the stage area to the piano, with = my music hymnbook in hand, and opened the piano lid. Shock, horror! All the black notes had been sheared off. It was a completely flat keyboard.   There was no thought of transposing everything to Cmajor. (I would have = been quite incapable of this feat, anyway). I just battled on. The "black" notes still sounded. But it was the = strangest feeling for my fingers, as they played notes that "weren't there".   Was it a case of raw vandalism, or did it reflect bad race relations? I shall never know.   Happy Christmas, everyone! (My first Christmas for 36 years, without countless services and not = enough sleep, and being a zombie at the family gatherings!)   John Reimer    
(back) Subject: bass in a piano From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 20:49:32 -0600   Nothing against a good Steinway, but I think there is absolutely NO piano = of any age that can match the rolling, reverberant, thunderous bass of an OLD Chickering. My favorite practice piano in college was one of = those.....only about a 7 footer, but, oh how sweet, how grand, how responsive! An old Mason & Hamlin would be my second choice.   I've got two CD's of modern recordings of the old Chickerings.....one is owned by the Smithsonian; I forget where the other one is. One CD is = music of Gottschalk......he toured with, IIRC, TWO Chickerings!   Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: Re: 32" sound in speakers From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 21:59:11 -0000   Ross,   I can't explain it - nor can I fault the logic in my statement. Just one = of life's mysteries perhaps.   Perhaps if the pipes are very close together the air pressure changes produced by one are affecting the air-reed of the other and causing some kind of intermodulation effect.   Bruce   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: RE: 32" sound in speakers     > >At the risk of further confusing this discussion - the 32' tone is not > really there in the physical sense - if the loudspeaker or the real = pipes > don't radiate it, it's not there in the sound waves in the air. And even =   > if > it was, your ears would hardly be able to hear it. > > Then how do you explain the physical shaking of the building? Wellington > Cathedral is made of concrete and has just over 89 secs reverberation. = The > 32ft Resultant literally makes the building shake in the way that the = 16ft > Open Wood most certainly does not. > > Ross > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >