PipeChat Digest #4260 - Friday, February 6, 2004
 
Three musical questions, one organic
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Three musical questions, one organic
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Wedding program
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: "Doing NY" (Borrowing a "cup of sugar")
  by "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com>
looking for Introit for Lent
  by "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu>
Re:Subject: Off-topic obituary
  by "Dr. Amy Fleming" <docamy@alltel.net>
RE: "Doing NY"
  by "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu>
RE: "Doing NY"
  by "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu>
Re: "Doing NY" (Borrowing a "cup of sugar")
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Off-topic obituary
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Off-topic obituary
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: "Doing NY" - St Mary, St Thomas, et alia
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Condolences
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net>
RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
In memoriam Bubba (was off-topic obituary)
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Off-topic obituary
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
RE: Subject: Off-topic obituary
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: DC residence organ removal
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: ST.RAYMOND'S IN THE BRONX
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: DC residence organ removal
  by <KurtvonS@aol.com>
RE: Off-topic obituary
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Rounding flattened pipes
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ   for sale on ebay
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
 

(back) Subject: Three musical questions, one organic From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 07:33:46 -0600   In the collection of CDs given me last year by my friend is one from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. There are very little frames of reference as to the times of the recorded pieces, but I knew someone out there would know the answers.   (1) There was a voice lesson of one Mark Brown, a really heart-stopping baritone voice. Does anyone on the list know where he is or what he is doing now musically?   (2) He was singing "Oh! Quand je dors" by Franz Liszt, which is a lovely piece. Can anyone share the background of this? Does anyone have a recommendation of a recording of this?   (3) There was a recording of a movement of Rheinberger's No. 2, played by Boyd Jones. Can anyone tell me about the organ there?   As ever, thanks.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Three musical questions, one organic From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 08:45:58 -0500   Glenda,   There are tons of references to this on the Internet. Just type the name into Google. It looks like you can actually download the score at one = site. In any case, here is just one of the websites for starters:   http://www.classiccat.net/liszt_f/282.htm   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 8:33 AM Subject: Three musical questions, one organic     > In the collection of CDs given me last year by my friend is one from the > Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. There > are very little frames of reference as to the times of the recorded > pieces, but I knew someone out there would know the answers. > > (1) There was a voice lesson of one Mark Brown, a really heart-stopping > baritone voice. Does anyone on the list know where he is or what he is > doing now musically? > > (2) He was singing "Oh! Quand je dors" by Franz Liszt, which is a > lovely piece. Can anyone share the background of this? Does anyone > have a recommendation of a recording of this? > > (3) There was a recording of a movement of Rheinberger's No. 2, played > by Boyd Jones. Can anyone tell me about the organ there? > > As ever, thanks. > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Wedding program From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 07:43:38 -0600   Bud and others, I would appreciate an order of service for an Anglican wedding, replete with Eucharist. I would also like suggestions about placement of bride and groom during procession, sermon, and other various times.   I've misplaced all my wedding stuff, and am too lazy to write it out from scratch, and a little too hung-over from the wake to remember where to put these people during the service. The final chapter of book 2 just has to have an Anglican shin-dig. The special music has been chosen, and the choir and organist are rehearsing.   Thanks.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: "Doing NY" (Borrowing a "cup of sugar") From: "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 08:50:59 -0500   Re: "Doing NY"Alan:   Circa 1980 or so St. Peter's Lutheran Church in the Citicorp Building The procession is assembled and ready to go.   "Good Morning, I ask your forbearance. The mass will begin shortly. We just = discovered the incense was not delivered, and we have run out to borrow = some from a neighbor.   Robert Clooney =20    
(back) Subject: looking for Introit for Lent From: "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu> Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 23:12:35 -0800   Dear Folk,   A little diversion for now from the NU-Axing-Organ-Dept disaster. Time = for our choir to learn a new introit for Lent. Any ideas? Thanks so much!   Fran Walker (fwalker@northwestern.edu) Organist, North Shore United Methodist Church 213 Hazel Avenue, Glencoe, IL 60022-1775 847-835-1227; fax 847-835-1243 http://www.gbgm-umc.org/northshoreumc/    
(back) Subject: Re:Subject: Off-topic obituary From: "Dr. Amy Fleming" <docamy@alltel.net> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 08:34:53 -0600   Glenda ~ I am sorry for the loss of your cat. It is especially difficult when it is unexpected. Veterinarians feel bad too. We're supposed to be able to fix em. Amy (Sam, Boo, Tiger, Sampson)    
(back) Subject: RE: "Doing NY" From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 09:53:29 -0500       > -----Original Message----- > From: ahremsen40@aol.com [SMTP:ahremsen40@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:08 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: "Doing NY" >=20 > Dear Lee, >=20 > Having played the Harrision organ at St. Thomas Church, N. Y. many = times, I=20 > can truthfully say it was one of the worst organs I ever played. It = was crude=20 > and unfinished sounding, really quite dreadful. Tony Bufano and Gil = Adams did=20 > revoice the whole organ several years after it went in, it was much = better,=20 > but still not a masterpiece. =20 >=20 > Allan Remsen > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20 >=20  
(back) Subject: RE: "Doing NY" From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 09:57:57 -0500   > Having played the Harrision organ at St. Thomas Church, N. Y. many = times, I=20 can truthfully say it was one of the worst organs I ever played. It = was crude=20 and unfinished sounding, really quite dreadful. =20   It the was the death of Harrison, literally. Perhaps that misfortune = had something to do with the fact that it never sounded finished.   Your impression is not universal. There are also people who feel that = Adams left it in worse shape than he found it. =20   I never had the privilege of hearing it in those days. =20      
(back) Subject: Re: "Doing NY" (Borrowing a "cup of sugar") From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:12:00 -0500   On 2/6/04 8:50 AM, "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> wrote:   > "Good Morning, > I ask your forbearance. The mass will begin shortly. We just = discovered the > incense was not delivered, and we have run out to borrow some from a = neighbor.   Well, that IS one of the advantages of being in an urban parish.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic obituary From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 10:46:51 -0500   On 2/5/04 9:49 PM, "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote:   > Thank you for reading this. > Thank you for sending it, Glenda. My warm condolences. I've committed = the obituary to Word and saved it for a friend whose beloved Siamese is 20. = The day will come when he (the friend) will appreciate reading what you've written.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic obituary From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 09:57:00 -0600   Glenda,   I'm deeply sorry for the loss of Bubba Sutton.   In the past few years we too have lost several cats, a Golden Retriever, and 2 doves. It doesn't make it easier and I know the pain you are feeling. Only animal persons can appreciate that. There must be a connection with loving music & loving animals.   Have a wonderful day Glenda.   David E   David Evangelides Colorado Springs, Colorado      
(back) Subject: Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 12:08:34 -0400   It says its located on Prince Edward Island, in Cavindish, If I had known it back in December, I was only 5 minutes from there. the Location it was installed originally in was Mount A University , Sackville New Brunswick.. Prince Edward Island now is connected to the mainland by a huge bridge 16 or so KMs long. Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 11:20:24 -0500   At 12:08 PM 2004-02-06 -0400, you wrote: > It says its located on Prince Edward Island, in Cavindish, If I had = known >it back in December, I was only 5 minutes from there. > the Location it was installed originally in was Mount > A University , Sackville New Brunswick.. > Prince Edward Island now is connected to the mainland by a huge bridge = 16 >or so KMs long. > Daniel   Daniel,   Maybe they are asking so much for the instrument, because they use = Canadian Tire money. (Canadian joke)   Seriously, somebody doesn't know the truth here. They either think older organs are antiques, and as such collectibles, or they think that Casavant =   organs, whatever vintage are worth a lot. I doubt they could even get = $10,000.   Something seems amiss here.   Arie V.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263      
(back) Subject: Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 12:26:12 -0400   I think that even $5000 would be questionable. Unless the organ has been releathered and restored. $50,000 may sound good then . Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: "Doing NY" - St Mary, St Thomas, et alia From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:26:20 EST   Keep in mind that neither Saint Mary the Virgin nor Saint Thomas bear = ANY resemblance to any particular of Aeolian-Skinner's work, especially G. = Donald Harrison. They have been so radically altered as to make unrecognizable. Unaltered examples still exist: Academy of Arts and Letters = [835/1930], although very Skinneresque; Saint Paul's Chapel, Columbia University [985/1938] (somewhat altered in 1964); Holy Cross [908/1933]; Fifth Church = of Christ, Scientist [330/1929, 330A/1955, 330B/1956], which is relatively intact. As a piece of ephemera, I have in my collection the postal card sent = out by Saint Thomas announcing the death of G. Donald Harrison during the = tonal finishing process at the church. If there is any interest, I can find it = later and reprint the text.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City   ..  
(back) Subject: Condolences From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:33:39 -0600   Glenda........so sorry for your loss. I have six cats (three of whom have dealt with blockages), and can only imagine how difficult it is for you.   Many of my cat people friends find the idea of meeting their cats at the Rainbow Bridge comforting:   http://www.newrainbowbridge.com/NRB/rbpoem.htm     Dennis Steckley   Every gun that is made and every warship that is launched, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed--Dwight Eisenhower        
(back) Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:35:01 -0500   I am inclined to agree with you since there was a 1927 Casavant in a musicians studio, "excellent condition", and he could not get an offer of $7,000 (US) for 7 ranks in the US.   Grant   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Hopkins Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 11:26 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay     I think that even $5000 would be questionable. Unless the organ has been releathered and restored. $50,000 may sound good then . Daniel   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:44:22 -0800   We use selling orphan organ parts/organs as a fund raiser. We sold several organs in the "small" range, 7 ranks or so.   People quickly realize that what you really get is a truckload of organ parts , which usually all have to be packed , unpacked, shipped, cleaned, repaired , re-assembled, re-installed, revoiced, etc. Where we hoped to get a few thou$and it would not sell, Usually once the price was around 0ne thou$and we'd be able to dispose of it.   Exceptions were qualities like Skinner pipework, but even that was hard put to get over a few Thou$sand.   So ... $35,000.......????   Now if it was a totaly releathered 28 rank Wurlitzer.... by the way..any one know of any?   John V  
(back) Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:03:20 -0600   John,   There's a restored Wurlitzer that was to be installed in the smaller theater in the Broward [County, Florida] Center for the Performing Arts a few years back, until the project got killed. The organ's owners run the Dunne Music Company in Pompano Beach nearby, a large Allen dealer. You can contact Bruce Hannover for details: bruceh8852@aol.com.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of John Vanderlee Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:44 PM To: PipeChat Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay   We use selling orphan organ parts/organs as a fund raiser. We sold=20 several organs in the "small" range, 7 ranks or so.   People quickly realize that what you really get is a truckload of=20 organ parts , which usually all have to be packed , unpacked,=20 shipped, cleaned, repaired , re-assembled, re-installed, revoiced,=20 etc. Where we hoped to get a few thou$and it would not sell, Usually=20 once the price was around 0ne thou$and we'd be able to dispose of it.   Exceptions were qualities like Skinner pipework, but even that was=20 hard put to get over a few Thou$sand.   So ... $35,000.......????   Now if it was a totaly releathered 28 rank Wurlitzer.... by the=20 way..any one know of any?   John V "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: In memoriam Bubba (was off-topic obituary) From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 11:51:12 -0600   I read your moving obit a few minutes ago, Glenda. Since I love cats, I immediately sat down and wrote a few musical lines in Bubba's memory.   If one extends the alphabet upward from a-b-c-d-e-f-g, one can arrive at a pretty good tune for Bubba Columbus Sutton. For a 4th and final phrase, I cribbed the last phrase of the tune "Cheshire," which was as close as I could get to something feline without searching endlessly. I've couched it in mournful pseudo-Elizabethan-Victorian counterpoint and will add a = couple of variations or do something to extend it into a short piece for organ. Whew, I'm on topic.   Condolences, Bob Lind    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-topic obituary From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:14:30 -0800   Dear Glenda,   We had to put our dear CC cat down last year - he was 13.   I'm not a really emotional guy, usually, but my wife and I held each = other and both cried like babies as he slipped into peace....   It took several weeks for me to think about it without getting misty, = and I still miss the little guy.   We've got 2 more cats, now - a calico and an orange tabby.... love em = both, and will miss them when they go, too.   You are in my thoughts   _jonathan    
(back) Subject: RE: Subject: Off-topic obituary From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 12:46:41 -0600   I've not had good luck with vets - there are only two in town, and the last one I've used has let the last three animals I took to him die. I know vets and doctors can't always save lives, but he assured me Wednesday night that Bubba was going to be fine. So it was just awful when I called in the next morning to find out he didn't make it.   I've been thinking of just seeing how much it would cost me once a year to have a vet do a house call for the nine cats, for their checkups and shots. I could cook him/her dinner. It would be better than trying to drag them 30-35 miles out of town to a vet in several trips.   So anytime you'd like a couple days off in the wilderness of Florida, I'll check on airfares.   Cheers,   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: DC residence organ removal From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 13:56:44 -0500   On 2/4/04 10:11 PM, "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> wrote:   > > http://www.hilbus.org. > > Thanks for the generous plug of our website! I've updated it this = evening > with several photos taken by David Story, documenting the removal.   TommyLee! What stunning photos! Both the oldies and the new "portrait."   Gorgeous!   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 13:57:45 -0800   Peter, Thanks, i 'm inquiring...   John V  
(back) Subject: Re: ST.RAYMOND'S IN THE BRONX From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2004 14:21:57 -0500   On 2/5/04 8:02 AM, "Karl Watson" <kw35@si.rr.com> wrote:   > Is there anyone out there that can give me the history, the specs, and/or= any > info on the Delaware organ at St.Raymond's in the Bronx.   You can reach the voicemail (at least) of the present organist at St. Raymond=B9s at 1 718 792 4044. He is Christopher Reilly (spelling speculative). I left a request that he give me a call. I will not be a terribly knowledgeable questioner, but will try with a few basics, and at least get an e-mail address for posting here.   Alan, who really doesn=B9t know a Barker lever from a Brustwerk    
(back) Subject: Re: DC residence organ removal From: <KurtvonS@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:26:22 EST   Great pictures, here! Has anyone thought to post the specifications? If = so, I missed them....   -KvS    
(back) Subject: RE: Off-topic obituary From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:29:22 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   My most sincere condolence, Glenda- I am a "cat-man" too and know how you feel. BTW, it calls strongly to my attention that the cat seems to be "orgler's pet" by excellence- the vast majority of organists & builders I know are fond of cats. Or am I wrong in this appreciation?   Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about. <there it is...>        
(back) Subject: Rounding flattened pipes From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:50:06 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   There must be a special place in hell for people who flatten pipes. A pipe which was really bad flattened and is reshaped never will be the same pipe = again. No matter how carefully you work the metal always stretches, its = mollecular structure is altered, a taken apart and then resoldered pipe suffers an unavoidable (although minimal in best cases) cut up and mouth alignment alteration. Often it's better and less troublesome/expensive to have such pipes replaced. Pipes of historic organs that must be conserved to the = most possible extent should be repaired *only* by a very experienced pipe = maker. For Paul and other curious list friends I will describe the process in brief:   Before a flattened pipe is rounded it must be thoroughly washed. Otherwise dirt will become an abrasive. Always wear gloves while handling pipes = which won't be painted. If you cannot, the pipe must be cleaned and polished inmediately after the work. Your fingerprints don't become visible on the surface but after a time- when it's too late.   If the flattening didn't affect the mouth-languid-foot area the pipe can = be reshaped with patience and a hardwood dowel set, starting with a small = dowel and working up to diameter. The dowel must be well smoothed, and the = extreme that reaches into the pipe must be bevelled and slightly rounded to avoid marks on the pipe. Some people work with iron pipes, which should be polished at the surface, bevelled at the extremes and may need some lubrication. Wooden dowels = always are better IMHO.- Ed's apparatus sounds great, specially for initial reshape, but must be used with pulse and care as he told to avoid = "bellies". Avoid touching the upper lip area with the dovel while rounding; check the pipe regularly to see if it doesn't "curve".   "Metal", (tin-lead alloy pipes) can be reshaped quite easily. Heating = isn't advisable, and beating (with a piece of flat, well smoothed and = round-edged hardwood) must be done very carefully because the "metal" is extremely malleable. Seams of well manufactured "metal" pipes should't come apart. In every = case they must be carefully checked once the job is done. Copper or zinc pipes may need some heat and their seams tend to come apart more easily.   If the flattening affected the mouth /languid area or the foot, the pipe should be taken apart at the round seam at the languid, rounded, the lips re-shaped, languid rectified and the pipe then soldered together again. If = a "metal" foot alone is affected it can be cut at 1/4 to half-length and = after reshaping (with a polished and tip-rounded steel rod) resoldered and the seam smothened out and polished afterwards. Copper and zinc foots ar not = so malleable and might have to be completely disassembled for re-shapening. Afterward revoicing is a must in every case of course.   Whatever, this kind of surgery is not for beginning amateurs although extremely flattened pipes "cannot become worse as they are" :)-   Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.    
(back) Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 15:09:23 -0800   >John, > >There's a restored Wurlitzer that was to be installed in the smaller >theater in the Broward [County, Florida] Center for the Performing Arts >a few years back, until the project got killed. The organ's owners run >the Dunne Music Company in Pompano Beach nearby, a large Allen dealer. >You can contact Bruce Hannover for details: bruceh8852@aol.com. > >Peter   Peter the address bounced..should it be: "bruceh885@aol.com"? - without the "2" ?   John V  
(back) Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2004 14:20:45 -0600   John,   The address I have is the one I posted. Perhaps it has changed. Bruce is a member of piporg-l.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of John Vanderlee Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 5:09 PM To: PipeChat Subject: RE: Overpriced Pipe Organ for sale on ebay   >John, > >There's a restored Wurlitzer that was to be installed in the smaller >theater in the Broward [County, Florida] Center for the Performing Arts >a few years back, until the project got killed. The organ's owners run >the Dunne Music Company in Pompano Beach nearby, a large Allen dealer. >You can contact Bruce Hannover for details: bruceh8852@aol.com. > >Peter   Peter the address bounced..should it be: "bruceh885@aol.com"? -=20 without the "2" ?   John V "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org