PipeChat Digest #4279 - Monday, February 16, 2004
 
Re: hyfrydol
  by "Dr. Amy Fleming" <docamy@alltel.net>
Re: MY requirements
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Stephen Roberts (was Re: careful, now...)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Killing off organ studies at major schools
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: MY requirements...curch jobs.
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Left, Right, etc.
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
32' short resonator reeds
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: hyfrydol
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Lou Dobbs last night
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: 32' short resonator reeds
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: 32' short resonator reeds
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: 32' short resonator reeds
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: 32' short resonator reeds
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: 32' short resonator reeds
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
ADMIN: editing/fancy text
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
RE: Under-winding
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
RE: Under-winding
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
RE: Under-winding
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
RE: Under-winding
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
Re: Under-winding
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
RE: Under-winding
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
RE: Under-winding
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
Schwimmer winding limitations?
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Under-winding
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Under-winding
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: hyfrydol From: "Dr. Amy Fleming" <docamy@alltel.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:10:20 -0600   Dear Mr.Burt, thank you and all the others who sent me information on the hymn. I am especailly glad to know how to pronounce it! Amy    
(back) Subject: Re: MY requirements From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:17:27 EST   >My GOSH! Are all 17 paid positions? > >--Shirley   In reference to the 17 music staff people at my church, not all are paid, = but a good number of them are. Some of the staff includes children's choir directors, some are children's choir accompanists, some are staff = instrumentalists (percussionists, bass player, etc.), hand bell choir directors (2), = directors of one of the three youth choirs, etc. It's an extensive program.   Monty    
(back) Subject: Re: Stephen Roberts (was Re: careful, now...) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:20:30 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Mike and others like him, are the salt of the earth.   How many organ trusts are supported by those who love the sound of the organ, and dedicate huge amounts of time and energy in fund raising, sales, promotion and personal giving? All of them, perhaps?   I don't think there is a preserved theatre organ in the world which hasn't been put there by the dedication of non-players.   I'm sure the same is true of many organs which have been kept functional against all odds, and where people have taken the trouble to campaign or raise awareness.   I personally reverse the situation......a qualified organist, but an unqualified mechanic who loves to tinker with autos.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK         --- Mike Gettelman <mike3247@earthlink.net> wrote: > Thank you Bill, > When I said it, I actually had no intention of > demeaning myself nor my trade   > Actually there are a lot of car lovers amongst > us > organ lovers   As a mechanic I am indeed very interested in the > magical mechanical systems that allow an organ to > speak > I am not an organist, I am not an > organ > builder. I am not in any way associated with the > group > of people here who lay claim to the reasons one > might > be a community member. I am nothing but a simple > enthusiast. But then, I am a patron. I buy concert > tickets, CDs, books, music, organizational > memberships, > and other items whose sale benefits the community in > general.   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Killing off organ studies at major schools From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:47:16 -0800 (PST)   the dean of NU's school of music made a comment in the Chicago Tribune = today basically saying that she needs to but money in the stong programs, = an not the weak. Ineed to have a sista to sista talk with her. I sent a letter to ALL the upper administraion     "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> wrote: Hello, Seb, Dale, et al: The brilliance and weakness of many university organ programs is at once understood when they graduate students who know not how to play a service. Friend of mine, several years ago, graduated from a very famous, fine music school, from one of the country's most prestigious organ teachers, who bragged that he was not interested in teaching students how to play church. He was only interested in teaching them how to play the organ literature. Good, bad, or indifferent, the graduated student either learned how to play a service (which usually includes planning the whole service), preparing for it, and then rendering the music as if everything is "normal." Some master the transition; some end up in the trash heap of organist who play brilliantly but cannot land a decent paying church job where the liturgy and order-of-worship are expected to be second nature by the time graduation comes. F. Richard Burt .. ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: Killing off organ studies at major schools     In a message dated 2/13/2004 9:15:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, = TubaMagna@aol.com writes:   Is it the degredation of the profession that discouraged application to these programs? Are people afraid to launch careers in organ and church = music because they fear low wages, bad music programs, or ignorant and vicious = clergy?     or perhaps unimaginitive ORGANS ? or lack of real training for what the jobs really are....     dale in flordia reminding everyone i play a toaster and use MIDI in my = Lutheran church   From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online  
(back) Subject: Re: MY requirements...curch jobs. From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:02:19 -0800 (PST)   Can we talk about church jobs at this list? If not, im sorry and do = apoligize. But I started my new job this week/weekend and it was marvelous. I, at 24 = years old, without any degree but lots of experience, have the direction = of a music program at a church with almost 2000 in worship on the weekend. = Like Monty said in one of his posts, he's having hs dreams come = true...similarly, I am too I ask my friends here. How many havd had to to put together a module for = developing a good music program? I am blessed that at my new job, there was an immediate request by the = Liturgy commitee to take the music to the next level.For example, I need = to teach the choir how to sing in harmony on anthems, and basically,I have = the total support of the worshippers and priests on making the music = reflect the size of the church. For instance they are very enthused that = in a weeks time, I have gotten to choir to singing without vibrato and = learning how to watch "choirmaster" conducting (Thank Susan Ferre' for = that teahing). But, there s a strong desire for a youth music program, = handbells, adult choir at both higher mases (Sun 11 AM and Sat 4 PM) , = etc. So basically, I am already on the ball with finding money.Im working = on lietters of inquiry to grant making foundations. Anyone ever gotten = one? Like my newest favorite colleague Monty, its nic to have a job where your = dreams are shared. New organ, all the works is what they want.   Anyone ever had a situation like this one? That is...a larger church, with = limited resources that had a dream? How was it for you? Love yall!     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online  
(back) Subject: Re: Left, Right, etc. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 20:06:34 -0500   On 2/15/04 6:28 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote:   > On 2/15/04 5:12 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote: >=20 >> Wish there was a list serve where such discussion was appropriate (i..e, >> combining church music with theology). >>=20 > I=B9ll bet you there are several. Ecunet? Luthernet?   Oops. I think it=B9s called =B3LutherLink.=B2   Alan    
(back) Subject: 32' short resonator reeds From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:19:18 -0800 (PST)   To the resident organ builders hello! I am a huge fan of 32' reeds and to me no organ is complete until there is = one. How many of you have done stops such as a 32' sordun, rankett, = dulzian etc? The plans at my new church ar for an organ with good support, = and the want he organ to be more ful in sound. Of course im putting a 32' = reed on the organ wishlist, but since the height at church is shallow, the = tone of a short resnator 32' might add that gravity we need, and still = allow for good repertoire, etc. Also, is what an ideal height a room should be to support horizntal HP = reed tone? Yep...we want that too.   Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: On 2/15/04 6:28 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote:   On 2/15/04 5:12 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   Wish there was a list serve where such discussion was appropriate (i..e, = combining church music with theology).   I=92ll bet you there are several. Ecunet? Luthernet?   Oops. I think it=92s called =93LutherLink.=94   Alan   From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online  
(back) Subject: Re: hyfrydol From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:20:08 -0600   Hello, Will:   Thanks for the pronunciation corrective. I heard the story only once, and recalled the pronunciation as closely as possible.   HUV-ruh-doll, it will be. <grins>   F. Richard Burt     .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:15 PM Subject: RE: hyfrydol     > That pronunciation is not correct. An "f" in Welsh is pronounced as a V. So > it should be HUV - ruh - doll! > > > > Will Light > Coventry UK > Born in Monmouthshire, which wasn't welsh at the time but is now! > > The accompanying story is that a Welchman spoke to my > acquaintance, and said, "You like the tune, do you? Then, > you might as well learn to pronounce its name properly. > It's called "HUFF'-ruh-doll." > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Lou Dobbs last night From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:30:31 -0600   Hi, Randy:   Check it out on the Allen internet site.   www.allenorgan.com/www/products/c-2a/c-2a.asp   They show that it uses Rennaissance Technology.   The one disadvantage as I see it is the use of only one expression shoe. It's a single organ on two manuals and pedals.   Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt     .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 4:48 PM Subject: Re: Lou Dobbs last night     > on 2/15/04 4:50 PM, F. Richard Burt at effarbee@verizon.net wrote: > > > > Supposedly, ...it was rumored among dealers of competitive brands > > that > > Allen introduced a two-manual, two-channel, self-contained organ > > with > > external options (at extra cost) that had a dealer-cost of less > > than $5,000. > > This is unsubstantiated, so don't proclaim this as newly > > discovered truth. > > <grins> > > > > If a dealer was in competition with another brand for an organ > > that might > > be considered to be deeply discounted, this small Protoge Allen > > was > > supposedly going to be their counter-move. > > > Does the Protege lack the Renaissance sound? Does it merely sound like > pre-Renaissance Allens? Or somewhere in between? > > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: 32' short resonator reeds From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:54:12 -0800   Fractional length 32' reeds are useless as pedal stops ... they can't produce enough fundamental. Even a 32' Contra Bassoon is less than successful with 1/2 length resonators.   Some other options:   mitre it or haskell it (yes, reed resonators can be haskelled)   MUCH less desirable: build the bottom octave half-length, but reinforce it with INDEPENDENT 16 & 10 2/3 flue pipes to make the resultant   EVEN LESS desirable: a 32' reed cornet - these seldom work, unless ALL the ranks are independent, so they can be tuned true, and the building has SUPERB acoustics.   I think UNENCLOSED party horns are an unmitigated nuisance, and the most useless stop on the organ. There are only a handful of pieces in the literature that call for them, unless you're going to play the complete works of Cabanilles (grin).   I would opt for an ENCLOSED high-pressure tuba like those being built these days by Nichols & Simpson or Schoenstein ... MUCH more useful for SUBTLE descants, etc., but still capable of being opened up for trumpet tunes, etc. They're also easier to get to for TUNING.   Cheers,   Bud   T.Desiree' Hines wrote:   > To the resident organ builders hello! > > I am a huge fan of 32' reeds and to me no organ is complete until there > is one. How many of you have done stops such as a 32' sordun, rankett, > dulzian etc? The plans at my new church ar for an organ with good > support, and the want he organ to be more ful in sound. Of course im > putting a 32' reed on the organ wishlist, but since the height at church =   > is shallow, the tone of a short resnator 32' might add that gravity we > need, and still allow for good repertoire, etc. > > Also, is what an ideal height a room should be to support horizntal HP > reed tone? Yep...we want that too. > > Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On 2/15/04 6:28 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote: > > On 2/15/04 5:12 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> = wrote: > > Wish there was a list serve where such discussion was > appropriate (i..e, combining church music with theology). > > I=92ll bet you there are several. Ecunet? Luthernet? > > > Oops. I think it=92s called =93LutherLink.=94 > > Alan > > > > From Desiree' > T. Desiree' Hines > Chicago, IL 60649 > http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=3D22055/*http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html>      
(back) Subject: Re: 32' short resonator reeds From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 18:40:57 -0800 (PST)   oooh bud! I love en chamdes !       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online  
(back) Subject: Re: 32' short resonator reeds From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:06:18 EST   Bud is right!   En Chamade reeds should be reserved for very large and complete organs, in big Cathedralesque spaces with live acoustics. They make absolutely no sense as a first or second reed on a less than complete = organ.   Spanish en Chamades were penetrating but not especially loud. The purpose was different than on the modern organ. What works at St. J. T. D. will = not have the desired effect in a small dead church, but be the least used stop on the organ. There are some perfectly horrid examples especially in the RC church on Coronado, Island CA. and never used, nor should be. They are a total waste of money unless executed in balance with the rest of the plenums. There is a Lutheran Church in Pacific Palasdes with one on a modest two manual. There is no visable stop control for it, only an unmarked toe stud. It would cause blood to pour from perforated ear drums. I know why it's hidden, it's just too damned loud to be used for anything. Crystal Cathedral, and First Congo. in LA the buildings are big enough to handle that kind of rattling and are the general exceptions as is the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in DC.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: 32' short resonator reeds From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:08:13 -0600   Hello, Desiree: =20 I have a story to tell you, ...repeat of one I wrote=20 a week or so ago. Several of us were into New York=20 City for church about 10 years ago. We took in=20 Riverside Church and heard the huge Aeolian-Skinner,=20 muchly modified. Great stuff. =20 Then we hustled down to Saint John the Divine just=20 as the postlude was playing. We could hear it on the=20 sidewalk out front. As we hurried through the foyer=20 into the back of the nave, the trumpet were right=20 over our heads. These are massive. HUGE! =20 Right ahead of me, sitting at a table with materials=20 about various church ministries was a woman leaning=20 forward with her hands cupped over her ears and=20 elbows resting on the table. She seemed to be=20 the personification of one wailing for the sound=20 to stop so she would not hurt any more. <grins> =20 Then, we went to Saint Pat's and Saint Thomas. =20 This was quite a day for four country boys from=20 Texas. <more grins> =20 Aside from being threatened by a car full of punks=20 who objected to us looking over at them, the rest=20 of the event was meaningful mostly for the traffic=20 congestion. =20 New York is not a place for country boys, but the=20 biz with the en chamade was an unspoken moment in=20 time that was priceless. =20 F. Richard Burt =20 =20 .. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: T.Desiree' Hines=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:40 PM Subject: Re: 32' short resonator reeds     oooh bud! I love en chamdes !     =20     From Desiree'=20 T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html     -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online  
(back) Subject: Re: 32' short resonator reeds From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 19:47:12 -0700     Desiree' wrote:   To the resident organ builders hello! I am a huge fan of 32' reeds and to me no organ is complete until there is one. How many of you have done stops such as a 32' sordun, rankett, dulzian etc? The plans at my new church ar for an organ with good support, and the want he organ to be. . . .       Del Case replies:   My experience has been that short length (under 1/2 length) 32' reeds tend to more more indecent than musical. Half length can be wonderful.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: ADMIN: editing/fancy text From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:59:06 -0600   Dear Pipechatters --   Nothing like a busy weekend to remind us all to please:   A) edit unneccessary text from replies to the List   and   B) send messages to the List only in PLAIN TEXT format, or as near as is possible.   Thank you all in advance for the few brief moments it will take to recheck =   your settings before you hit the <send> key the next time........   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator <admin@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: RE: Under-winding From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 22:58:45 -0600   >In order, however, to get the maximum volume out of the > instrument, rather than taking off the 16' Principal, you might try > taking off some of the manual or pedal flutes and strings   Good point, John. I just noticed that removing the 16' Principal stopped = it from happening. I believe I did have the two Great flutes on. I'll try closing those stops and see if it still happens.   Thanks! Jeff    
(back) Subject: RE: Under-winding From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:00:53 -0600   > If there's a separate Pedal reservoir, I'd have the tech check to see if > additional weights can be added to bring the Pedal pressure up a little.   Well, actually, there is no "reservoir", per se. Bunjes (or Zimmer?) used Schwimmer chests. I can see it underneath the pedal chest, curiously, and it completely collapses when I did this.   Also curiously, when the organ was put in, this was happening on a bigger scale, and they found that a piece of paper had gotten stuck to the intake vents on the blower. I wonder if I should check that too?   Jeff    
(back) Subject: RE: Under-winding From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:03:07 -0600   > Dear Mr. White: > What does the organbuilder who built the organ say?   He's no longer in business, technically.   > What about the organbuilder who is curator of the organ?   The what? Do you mean the guys who maintain it?     > Was it DESIGNED to have slightly flexible winding, as many > organs are?   No clue.   As to the size, and build, etc....I'm too tired to do that tonight. :)   Jeff    
(back) Subject: RE: Under-winding From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:04:40 -0600     > First place I'd check is for wind inlet obstructions or other unusual > maladies before even bothering to place a Service Call.   This is possible, as I eluded to in a previous message. Trouble is, = Zimmer put the blower in a box (or maybe that's the design), so I'm not sure = where the intake IS. However, this does NOT happen in normal service and literature playing. It was a specific circumstance as I described.   > Anything unusual been done around the organ lately? Has it been added = to, > thereby making more wind demands than previously?   Nope.   Thanks! Jeff    
(back) Subject: Re: Under-winding From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 21:11:19 -0800   Um, I'd be surprised if you could wind a 16' Principal with only a Schwimmer ... but maybe I'm wrong.   Bud   Jeff White wrote:   >>Dear Mr. White: >> What does the organbuilder who built the organ say? > > > He's no longer in business, technically. > > >> What about the organbuilder who is curator of the organ? > > > The what? Do you mean the guys who maintain it? > > > >> Was it DESIGNED to have slightly flexible winding, as many >>organs are? > > > No clue. > > As to the size, and build, etc....I'm too tired to do that tonight. :) > > Jeff > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: RE: Under-winding From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:06:17 -0600   > Diagnosis by e-mail is a dangerous thing, but I gather you wanted a hint > or two before you incurred the expense of a service call.   Jim, absolutely! I just was curious to see if this is something I = *should* be concerned about, or if it would be considered normal behavior. I've never had an instrument do this. I could play with all stops wide open, hold a full chord in the manuals, totally coupled, super-coupled and sub-coupled, and hold two pedal notes and not have this happen on other instruments. So I was a bit taken back when it did on this one. :)   Jeff    
(back) Subject: RE: Under-winding From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:19:26 -0600   No, the 16 Principal is mostly tubed off of the main chest. It's almost completely in the facade.   Jeff   > Um, I'd be surprised if you could wind a 16' Principal with only a > Schwimmer ... but maybe I'm wrong.    
(back) Subject: Schwimmer winding limitations? From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:33:10 -0600   Quilisma@cox.net wrote: > Um, I'd be surprised if you could wind a 16' Principal with only a > Schwimmer ... but maybe I'm wrong.   At one time, that may have been done with more "primitive" valve designs, but nowadays, Schwimmer regulation has progressed to the point where they can be designed and built to wind anything you can throw on the Windchest the Schwimmer is mounted to!   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS  
(back) Subject: Re: Under-winding From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:34:49 -0600   Jeff White wrote:   > when the organ was put in, this was happening on a bigger > scale, and they found that a piece of paper had gotten stuck to the = intake > vents on the blower. I wonder if I should check that too?   Yes, but be sure the blower is OFF when you try this. Those impellers can be like putting your hand into a meat grinder! OWTCH!   Faithfully,   G.A. -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS  
(back) Subject: Re: Under-winding From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:39:12 -0600   Jeff White wrote: <wind inlet obstructions>   > Zimmer put the blower in a box (or maybe that's the design), so I'm > = not sure where the intake IS.   Blowers need periodic servicing and lubrication, so there MUST be a removable cover somewhere.   Sometimes, especially in earlier organs, inlet flaps were kept from = banging by neoprene rubber gaskets around the perimeter and this may have gone gooey and turned into a sticky mess instead; thereby keeping the flap effectively sealed shut and wind-starving the organ!   <Anything unusual been done around the organ lately>   > Nope.   Just thought I'd ask. One of our client churches is demolishing a = platform around the organ (without consulting us about covering and otherwise protecting the organ first!) and wonders why everything is out of tune and otherwise full of dirt.   Can we say: "DUHH?"   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS