PipeChat Digest #4313 - Sunday, February 29, 2004
 
RE: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
RE: Amen and on to hymn playing
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: Amen and on to hymn playing
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Amen and on to hymn playing
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Amen and on to hymn playing
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: North Texas State?
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company
  by "Jeremy T. Mills" <jt4118@pa.net>
Re: New chair of organ dept at Juilliard announced
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: singing the Amen
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Convergent worship
  by "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
Re: LISTEN UP! The fate of the Organ department at Chicago Musical Coll
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: LISTEN UP! The fate of the Organ department at Chicago Musical Coll
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
RE: "chicago" style service
  by "james nerstheimer" <enigma1685@hotmail.com>
RE: "chicago" style service
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops Announcement
  by "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital
 

(back) Subject: RE: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:48:29 -0000   If this organ really did come from England, there may be some reference = to it in the NPOR - it's worth a search anyway.   =20   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy T. Mills Sent: 26 February 2004 04:51 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company   =20   Hi Jim,   This organ is at the Rouzerville United Methodist Church in = Rouzerville PA, which is a little town beside Waynesboro PA we are about and hour = south of Harrisburg. I am told by one of the members of the congregation that this organ was bought or given from somewhere in England. The church = was rebuilt in 1915 and this organ as far as the congregation knows was installed in 1915. They tell me that there was paper work with the = organ but no one knows where it is, and they believe that it was damaged in a basement flood. We are having a guy come by in the next few weeks to = look over the organ becuase we have some problems. So I have decided to try = to take on the task of research this organ but I am not sure if I will = succeed.   =20   Thanks.   Jeremy   ----- Original Message -----=20   From: Jim McFarland <mailto:mcfarland6@juno.com> =20   To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20   Cc: pipechat@pipechat.org=20   Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:56 PM   Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company   =20   Jeremy:   =20   I don't know how this one slipped by me.   =20   Back in the 60's and 70's I catalogued hundreds of old trackers in our native central PA.   =20   I am intrigued by the presence of an L-M here in PA. There is a Moline = near Williamsport. These are the only mid-western built organs anywhere = around here.   =20   Can you fill in details about the organ, and when it was installed?   =20   If I have time later, I can fill you in on L-M, but I am sure someone = else will step up to the plate before then.   =20   Jim McFarland   Millersville (Lancaster) PA   =20   =20   =20   On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:12:25 -0800 "Jeremy T. Mills" <jt4118@pa.net> = writes:   Hi,=20   My name is Jeremy Mills and I am the Organist at Rouzerville United Methodist Church in southern PA. We have a Lancashire Marshall Organ Company mechanical action organ. Does anyone have any information or = know where I can get information about Lancashire Marshall Organ Company.   =20   Thanks   Jeremy Mills   =20      
(back) Subject: RE: Amen and on to hymn playing From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:48:29 -0000   I think that the number 4 definition is a derogatory one dreamed up by critics of literature. i.e. "he is a mere versifier, not a poet" type of thing... I suppose there is some merit in this - after all one would not equate the kind of thing common inside a greetings card with some of the great poetry, yet both have "verses"   Will Light Coventry UK     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Jan Nijhuis 4. Metrical writing that lacks depth or artistic merit.   5. A particular type of metrical composition, such as blank verse or = free verse.   6. One of the numbered subdivisions of a chapter in the Bible.   -- Numbers 1.B. and 2. above would seem to argue for either being correct = while 4. throws a monkey-wrench at the whole thing making verses only = appropriate for CCM.   > > And, as long as we're talking about "verses," let me quote an old = Church > > Music instructor from 50+ years ago: "Bibles have verses. Hymns = have > > stanzas." (Now, really, I've kept my mouth shut about this for = several > > years, but it really continues to bug me!) And the BEST writers say > > "verses" when they should say "stanzas." Come on, gang! (Or tell = me I'm > > wrong.) > >=20 > > Alan   -- Jan Nijhuis=20 (Yeah, I'm one of the guys with the Kurzweil and the Alesis surrounded = by guitars and wishing I had a real organ.)   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Amen and on to hymn playing From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:43:30 -0600   Using the term in its technical literary sense, a verse is a couplet or two-line piece of poetry. What we generally think of as verses in hymns should indeed be called stanzas. When I was in the choir of Trinity Episcopal Church in Bethlehem, Pa., twenty years ago, the then organist and choirmaster, Marvin Beinema, used always to refer to stanzas rather than verses. The use of the term verses in hymns, however, has now become so widespread that it is hard not to think of it as standard usage.   John Speller.   Will Light wrote:   >I think that the number 4 definition is a derogatory one dreamed up by >critics of literature. i.e. "he is a mere versifier, not a poet" type of >thing... I suppose there is some merit in this - after all one would not >equate the kind of thing common inside a greetings card with some of the >great poetry, yet both have "verses" > >Will Light >Coventry UK > > >-----Original Message----- >From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Jan >Nijhuis > 4. Metrical writing that lacks depth or artistic merit. > > 5. A particular type of metrical composition, such as blank verse or = free >verse. > > 6. One of the numbered subdivisions of a chapter in the Bible. > >-- >Numbers 1.B. and 2. above would seem to argue for either being correct = while >4. throws a monkey-wrench at the whole thing making verses only = appropriate >for CCM. > > > >>>And, as long as we're talking about "verses," let me quote an old = Church >>>Music instructor from 50+ years ago: "Bibles have verses. Hymns have >>>stanzas." (Now, really, I've kept my mouth shut about this for several >>>years, but it really continues to bug me!) And the BEST writers say >>>"verses" when they should say "stanzas." Come on, gang! (Or tell me >>> >>>        
(back) Subject: Re: Amen and on to hymn playing From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:55:35 -0500   On 2/29/04 6:48 AM, "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> wrote:   > I think that the number 4 definition is a derogatory one dreamed up by > critics of literature.   And I suspect you're right, Will.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Amen and on to hymn playing From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:59:12 -0500   On 2/29/04 7:43 AM, "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote:   > The use of the term verses in hymns, however, has now > become so widespread that it is hard not to think of it as standard = usage.   And then there are those who refer to stanzas (or "sections of a poem") as "strophes." John Foss can explain that one, I think--especially in the musical context of "KATAstrophe."   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:41:15 -0800 (PST)   Good droves or bad?     OMusic@aol.com wrote: The Bedient is already in. It is tuned to a wierd kind of tuning and the = concert I heard people were leaving in droves during the intermission. I = would like to hear it again to have a different point of view about it. = Eyrline   From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company From: "Jeremy T. Mills" <jt4118@pa.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:47:15 -0800   Will, Thanks for you help, can you please let me know what NPOR is?   Thanks Jeremy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Will Light=20 To: 'PipeChat'=20 Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 3:48 AM Subject: RE: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company     If this organ really did come from England, there may be some = reference to it in the NPOR - it's worth a search anyway.   =20   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf = Of Jeremy T. Mills Sent: 26 February 2004 04:51 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company   =20   Hi Jim,   This organ is at the Rouzerville United Methodist Church in = Rouzerville PA, which is a little town beside Waynesboro PA we are about = and hour south of Harrisburg. I am told by one of the members of the = congregation that this organ was bought or given from somewhere in = England. The church was rebuilt in 1915 and this organ as far as the = congregation knows was installed in 1915. They tell me that there was = paper work with the organ but no one knows where it is, and they believe = that it was damaged in a basement flood. We are having a guy come by in = the next few weeks to look over the organ becuase we have some problems. = So I have decided to try to take on the task of research this organ but = I am not sure if I will succeed.   =20   Thanks.   Jeremy   ----- Original Message -----=20   From: Jim McFarland=20   To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20   Cc: pipechat@pipechat.org=20   Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:56 PM   Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company   =20   Jeremy:   =20   I don't know how this one slipped by me.   =20   Back in the 60's and 70's I catalogued hundreds of old trackers in = our native central PA.   =20   I am intrigued by the presence of an L-M here in PA. There is a = Moline near Williamsport. These are the only mid-western built organs = anywhere around here.   =20   Can you fill in details about the organ, and when it was installed?   =20   If I have time later, I can fill you in on L-M, but I am sure = someone else will step up to the plate before then.   =20   Jim McFarland   Millersville (Lancaster) PA   =20   =20   =20   On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:12:25 -0800 "Jeremy T. Mills" <jt4118@pa.net> = writes:   Hi,=20   My name is Jeremy Mills and I am the Organist at Rouzerville = United Methodist Church in southern PA. We have a Lancashire Marshall = Organ Company mechanical action organ. Does anyone have any information = or know where I can get information about Lancashire Marshall Organ = Company.   =20   Thanks   Jeremy Mills   =20      
(back) Subject: Re: New chair of organ dept at Juilliard announced From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:47:22 -0800 (PST)   DAMN! Thats good and he's not even 30. I think that hes one of those dual = types...an equally good teacher and player.       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: singing the Amen From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:48:20 -0800 (PST)   Guess where the Amens are always big? Coral Ridge Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: Convergent worship From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:49:38 -0600   interspersed Hi Alan : Re: Convergent worship     > On 2/28/04 8:59 PM, "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> wrote: > > > My wife and I go to 2 churches. > > You mean, like, "together" or "separately"? Must be, like, a full = Sunday > morning!   We alternate. She is the church secretary of the Methodist church. She is/was Methodist, I, Lutheran but particpate with her in her church.and we both particpate in mine. > > > I am MO. Synod Lutheran and our minister is very liberal and ours is a close > > to downtown. He keeps everyone happy by 4 services. Saturday at 5PM more or > > less liturgical. > > That sounds pretty normal. Almost ALL services (regardless of denomination) > are "more or less liturgical"). Do you have a sense of where HIS "head" > really "is"? I believe he tries to be open to all people regardless of their style. We are also very open to Gays, and Lesbians. It seems to work for us.   Is he faithful to that, or is he just "selling product"? > (Which may be OK too; I'm just wondering.)   He seems to be caring for all and is an inspiration to us. He is in his later 50's and is at the top of his "game". James   > > > 8:45 AM on Sunday with a Chicago style service. Never figured out = what that > > means., > > I'm chuckling WITH you, I think. I've never heard of that one either. (But > it's ages since I've been in Chicago. If you find out, I'd be very curious > to know what it IS!) > > > 10:15 regular liturgical service and once a month service in German = for the > > real old liners. > > That's decent. Where IS this church? (I mean, "what city?") > > > The Methodist service > > "Methodist service"? In an LCMS church? (Not unheard of, perhaps, but = a > wee bit unusual.) > > > are much more free style and in the summer will have another service = at a > > school close by with a contemporary (band and all) for the really unchurched. > > Boy, THAT must be a tough pull! I will most definitely wish them the best! > A "band and all" for the really unchurched. I don't even know where to > start. Why? I guess. Really unchurched folks like "band" music? (I didn't > know!) > > > The Methodist church has a video screen now intact. My opinion is = that > > churches are trying any or all things to attract members. > > Well, I can't blame them for THAT. In fact, I should PRAISE them for that. > A video screen now intact! Everything's up to date in Kansas City! > Seriously, I'm in a mid-Manhattan parish with a bunch of young members from > middle USA who came to NYC to "break into theatre" (with varying = success), > and who HATED their Midwestern church homes for "pandering" to them with > electronics, "P&W," etc., while what they really wanted was the OLD = stuff > that their hippy parents were rejecting. We are super-traditional (see > www.stlukesnyc.org for the evidence) and the young crowd LOVES IT! > > Nevertheless, and without knowing how the Methodists got it there, and = not > knowing who goes to the Methodist church, I wish you the BEST! > > Alan (for whom it IS a bit confusing) > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: LISTEN UP! The fate of the Organ department at Chicago Musical Coll From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:52:43 -0800 (PST)   LOL my mama will NOT see me at Dillard. Even tho Wehtersby and the other = gent are fine teachers.       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: LISTEN UP! The fate of the Organ department at Chicago Musical Coll From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 06:53:56 -0800 (PST)   But you know, Gerre Hancock sounds damned attractive. I mean, being that I = want jobs like he has had and that he's great with Sacred Music, its a = tiny bit glowing.       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:01:06 -0600   NPOR is the National Pipe Organ Register. Go to www.bios.org.uk and click on "Online organ information services." If it is a Lancashire-Marshall organ it could not be English, since this firm worked out of Moline, Illinois. John Lancashire and Octavius Marshall, the owners, were however both originally English, which may have something to do with it.   John speller   Jeremy T. Mills wrote:   > Will, > Thanks for you help, can you please let me know what NPOR is?          
(back) Subject: Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 07:00:36 -0800 (PST)   Look, Like the Pope said It is as it was.       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: RE: "chicago" style service From: "james nerstheimer" <enigma1685@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 09:06:36 -0600   Hmmmmm . . . maybe it's like a "Hired Basket Program" or something? You trade ushers and their collections baskets with the church down the street =   and they send theirs to you and collect each other's offerings!   jim   O):^)   _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee when you click here. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963    
(back) Subject: RE: "chicago" style service From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 07:14:45 -0800 (PST)   OMG stop it! lol We share with the parish down the road lol Im between masses. PLEASE done make me play the high mass and burst out in = laughter during the offertory hymn. In Chicago     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops Announcement From: "Len Beyersdorfer, MARATHON Digital Publishing" <LenB@MDigital.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:40:08 -0500   This is an EMCATOS - Pipe Organ Pops Announcement.   We cordially invite you to attend a special EMCATOS Social to be held on Sunday, March 7, 2004 at 2PM, in Knight Auditorium, Babson College, Wellesley, MA.   Following a very brief business meeting, we will be entertained by EMCATOS =   member Tim Evans, at the console of our beloved Wurlitzer, with Laura Grande, soprano soloist.   At the conclusion of the program, we will have open console, during which those who are in attendance and are so inclined may try their hands (and feet) at the glories of our Wurlitzer!   We will also have light refreshments. So if there is a little something = you would like to bring to share, we would welcome it. But that certainly is not necessary.   This event is free!   We hope to see you there!   Below is some biographical information on Tim and Laura.   Thank You     Tim Evans, Organist, and Laura Grande, Soprano   EMCATOS Social, March 7, 2004, 2:00 PM Knight Auditorium, Babson College   Tim Evans received his BA in piano performance from Bryan College (TN) and =   his Master's Degree from Michigan State University. Following his graduate =   study, Tim taught piano and music theory at the University of the Virgin Islands in St. Thomas. He has lived in Boston as a freelance musician for the last seven years. Shows he has music directed include Pete Keely, Much =   Ado about Broadway and Sunrise, Sunset, The Songs of Sheldon Harnick at = the Stoneham Theatre; Animal Farm at Brandeis University, Boston Sings Boston for Centastage, and Berlin to Broadway with Kurt Weill at the Gloucester Stage Company. Tim was the music director for I Love You, You're Perfect, Now Change at the Stuart Street Playhouse in Boston, and has also toured with the I Love You . . . national touring company. He has also directed many shows for local theater groups. Additionally, he serves as = accompanist for the Concord Madrigals and performance classes at Emanuel College, and he is the church organist at Wakefield Lynnefield United Methodist Church.   Laura Grande recently graduated from Emmanel College in Boston with a degree in Music, Theatre Arts and Speech Communication. She has had = leading roles locally in both opera and musical theatre and has traveled to Japan and Europe with Seiji Ozawa and the Boston Symphony Orchestra, performing for the organization as a soloist and a chorus member. Most recently, = Laura was a holiday soloist for the Boston Pops Orchestra under Keith Lockhart and Bruce Hangen. She looks forward to pursuing her master's degree in opera performance in the near future.     -------------------------------------------------- Len Beyersdorfer LenB@MDigital.com MARATHON Digital Publishing Marlboro, Massachusetts 508-460-6172 --------------------------------------------------