PipeChat Digest #4314 - Sunday, February 29, 2004
 
RE: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
from bad to verse
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed...Off topic, but good for Church Mu
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: North Texas State?
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: North Texas State?
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
"Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree  program)(now x-p
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Johannus Organs in IL
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed...Off topic, but good for Church Mu
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed...Off topic, but good for	Church Mu
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: North Texas State?  ...really University of North Texas
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree  program)(now
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was
  by <Praestant@aol.com>
Re: Johannus Organs in IL
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: North Texas State?  ...really University of North Texas
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: North Texas State?  ...really University of North Texas
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree=DD program)(n
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: North Texas State?  ...really University of North Texas
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Registration practices in Bach works
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Walker
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: Saint Mark's, Grand Rapids
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Saint Mark's, Grand Rapids
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: New chair of organ dept at Juilliard announced
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Convergent worship
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: LISTEN UP! The fate of the Organ department at Chicago	Musical Coll
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: from bad to verse
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Johannus Organs in IL
  by <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
Re: Walker
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Johannus Organs in IL
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:20:28 -0000   NPOR is our National Pipe Organ Register. It is a database of English = organs held at Cambridge University. This link should get you there:     http://lehuray2.csi.cam.ac.uk/npor.html     You can search for the names of builders, or on locations or church names etc. It is not exhaustive, but it is a very good resource for British organs. I find it interesting to browse through, even when there is = nothing in particular I'm looking for.   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy T. Mills Sent: 29 February 2004 17:47 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Lancashire Marshall Organ Company     Will,   Thanks for you help, can you please let me know what NPOR is?     Thanks   Jeremy        
(back) Subject: Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:02:04 -0500   on 2/29/04 10:00 AM, T.Desiree' Hines at nicemusica@yahoo.com wrote:   Look, Like the Pope said It is as it was.         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   The Vatican denied he said that, by the way.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu            
(back) Subject: from bad to verse From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:04:12 -0500   If we can't call a hymn stanza a verse, then how can we sing "Second = verse, same as the first, / A little bit louder and a little bit worse"? You = have all heard that, right?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu        
(back) Subject: Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed...Off topic, but good for Church Musicians From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 10:25:50 -0800 (PST)   Ok then. My bad, as it could be hearsay about the pope's comment. But still, why buffer the way it was? If we can deal with movies like = Roots and Mississippi Burning, I think that telling the Passion of Christ = shoudl be vivid too. I think that we are just too euphamistic in America. = Tell it like it is or was. We don't ever want to offend, or put anyones = undergarments in a wad. Jesus' death was violent, cruel and dramatic. I = have not seen the movie yet, but probably will with church staff = nextweekend.   Maybe there will; be some great organ music written from inspirations of = the movie     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:20:06 EST   Desiree wrote: >Good droves or bad? In reference to people leaving at the intermission of the concert at = North Texas State. I would guess that if people were leaving at the = intermission it wasn't good.   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:30:10 -0800 (PST)   Ooooooooooo Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Lord Have Mercy. Thats AINT good! University of N TX...with a new organ, and people are not pleased. ouch. = Damn         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree program)(now x-posted) From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:08:36 -0600   This subject apparently will not disappear quietly into to night, never to =   be heard again. Todays Feb 29th Chicago Sunday Tribune has extensive coverage of the subject with an article by Richard Webster (director of = the Bach Week Festival and Organist Emeritus of St. Lukes Episcopal Church in Evanston and rebuttal by Music Dean Toni Montgomery in the perspective section and a feature article by a Tribune Higher Education reporter = Robert Becker in the Metro section. In the Becker article there are quotes from many in the music field including Northwestern Alumni and AGO president Frederick Swann citing the move by Northwestern as being short sighted = and not recognizing the continued prominence of the pipe organ in the musical world. One comment in the Montgomery article stated the decision will not be final until approved by the University Provost. Keep those cards and letters coming folks directed at the University hierarchy.   Jon C. Habermaas Lindenhurst, Il.    
(back) Subject: Johannus Organs in IL From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:08:12 -0800 (PST)   Hi all Who dealers for Johannus in Illinois? They are a strong consideration for = our possible project at my church, as we need more to our pipes but no = space.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed...Off topic, but good for Church Musicians From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:34:47 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   "That" film seems to be causing quite a stir.   However, Desiree's final comment rather caught my eye.   In all of Christendom, and apart from the brilliance of certain obvious choral works, Easter and the Crucifixion never seem to have aroused any "passion" among composers of organ music.   There's Dupre's "Passion Symphony" of course, and Alan Ridout's "Seven last words on the cross" and, I feel sure, quite a few more.   But compare this to Christmas, where every Thomas, Richard and Harold seem to have written half a million carols or sets of variations....quite an extraordinary contrast.   I doubt that the Gibson film will even raise a musical eyebrow, frankly speaking.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote:   > the Passion of Christ should be vivid too.   > Maybe there will; be some great organ music written > from inspirations of the movie >     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ topics, nailed and derailed...Off topic, but good for Church Musicians From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:50:44 -0500   There's also Dupr=E9's "Le Chemin de la Croix," Langlais' two pieces related to Palm Sunday and his "Mors et Resurrectio, " and Widor's Tenth. But you're right, there isn't much. I hadn't heard of the Ridout, glad to lear= n of it.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 2/29/04 4:34 PM, Colin Mitchell at cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   > Hello, >=20 > "That" film seems to be causing quite a stir. >=20 > However, Desiree's final comment rather caught my eye. >=20 > In all of Christendom, and apart from the brilliance > of certain obvious choral works, Easter and the > Crucifixion never seem to have aroused any "passion" > among composers of organ music. >=20 > There's Dupre's "Passion Symphony" of course, and Alan > Ridout's "Seven last words on the cross" and, I feel > sure, quite a few more. >=20 > But compare this to Christmas, where every Thomas, > Richard and Harold seem to have written half a million > carols or sets of variations....quite an extraordinary > contrast. >=20 > I doubt that the Gibson film will even raise a musical > eyebrow, frankly speaking. >=20 > Regards, >=20 > Colin Mitchell UK >=20 >=20 > --- "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote: >=20 >> the Passion of Christ should be vivid too. >=20 >> Maybe there will; be some great organ music written >> from inspirations of the movie >>=20 >=20 >=20 > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. > http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >=20 >=20    
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:36:37 -0600   Hello, Desiree, Monty, et al: =20 Well, the report I heard said that the organ=20 was not in tune. Suspecting that we may be=20 talking about an organ with a temperment other=20 than normal (equal), imagine playing a tune=20 written in C# minor or D-flat major in=20 meantone or Werkmeister. That is what the=20 description of the sound was like. =20 Now, it the organ IS tuned this way, and the=20 person playing it did not know better than=20 to play in the worst sound portion of the=20 compass (key wise), the problem would not be=20 the organ but the organist for making such=20 a bad choice of literature to play. =20 Think about it. =20 F. Richard Burt =20 =20 ..  
(back) Subject: Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree program)(now x-posted) From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:43:33 -0600   Hello, Jon, et all:   You wrote of the organ teaching situation at Northwestern:   > Keep those cards and letters coming folks directed at the > University hierarchy.   Somewhere in the back of my mind I hear the rumblings of a bad scene if the "cards and letters" influence the Northwestern hierachy to keep the program. What you may have is a very disgruntled music department faculty and administration that could subconsciously make the ultimate demise of the program a self-fulling prophecy.   Sounds like a man and a woman fussing over the ho-hum relationship they have been sharing, ...for better or worse, with no real promise of it ever getting any better.   Are there two sides to this situation?   F. Richard Burt     ..      
(back) Subject: Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was From: <Praestant@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:56:21 EST     In a message dated 29.2.04 5.44.28 PM, effarbee@verizon.net writes:     > Somewhere in the back of my mind I hear the rumblings of > a bad scene if the "cards and letters" influence the Northwestern > hierachy to keep the program.=A0 What you may have is a very > disgruntled music department faculty and administration that > could subconsciously make the ultimate demise of the program > a self-fulling prophecy. >=20   At this point, which serious organ student would contemplate Northwestern=20 University as an option if they said "Oh, okay, we won't close the organ pro= gram"=20 with the implication of 'now' at the end of the statement. As someone on=20 another list pointed out, Doug Cleveland's contract was not renewed, somethi= ng=20 that happened before the closing of the department was announced. Why, if he= was=20 the full-time person in charge of the program, did this happen? N.U. has had= =20 one new undergraduate student in 3 years, it's been in heart failure for som= e=20 time.    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs in IL From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 16:59:49 -0600   Hello, Desiree: =20 Bybee Organworks: =20 Go to www.bybeeorgans.com =20 This would be a good place to start. These folks=20 have installed some fairly impressive organs.   F. Richard Burt =20 =20 ..  
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:05:53 -0800 (PST)   Thats true You gotta be REALLY careful in older tuning tones. What is it Kirnberger, = Werkmeister III? I think something with dual temperments is nice, like the Pasi thats going = in the Cathedral in Omaha. Pull a lever and boom! Another temperment. = Something is telling me that Stanford's Fisk/Nanney is this way too, = correct?         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:12:16 -0600   The Bedient organ came from St. Mark's Episcopal Church, Grand Rapids, Michigan, and was, I believe, tuned to some kind of unequal temperament. It was very good for playing eighteenth-century French organ music, which is presumably what North Texas University want it for, but I am not sure it would be good for playing much else.   I gather that St. Mark's is buying a new four manual tracker organ from J. W. Walker & Sons in England, due to be installed in 2005. The specification of this can be found at:   http://www.jlransford.com/stmarks/Specs.htm   With several strings, color reeds like a Cor Anglais, etc., this looks as if it would be much more suited to the Anglican liturgy than the old instrument.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree=DD program)(now x-posted) From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:12:11 -0800 (PST)   Ok...Imma tell you what I heard. Someone who is a reliable source says that they questioned the musicality = of the students at NU once. They also said they finally cracked a whip = and some of them were so stressed they almost cried in lessons. After = that, this source says that the students were sounding fantastic. Even one = of my former teachers said they would not feel comfortable sending me to = NU unless there was a change in pedogogical practices there. Where are the good, natural-borned, old fashioned teachers who are = primarily teachers and Sacred Musicians, rather than "wunderkinds" with = DMA's and competition winners. I dunno...Im just making comments like always. Could it be the current = pedogogical practices are warranting teachers to send us to other = programs?     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:18:23 -0800 (PST)   They got the Grand Rapids organ, eh? OMG The Grand Rapids organ did not last long at ALL! Was'nt that organ put = in at St Marks within the last 15 years? I think the temperment was just = way too un-churchly. Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it! = And now, they are contracting with Walcker to get a church-toned organ. = since thats the case that they got, St Marks Bedient, its a beautiful = instrument the Bedient. But for church purposes, just the tuning is not = per my liking. And yes, its a ncie and true French Classical organ...but where's the = well rounded instrument for the institutional learning of varied schools = oif our instrument? And what about all that wonderful music from England, = America, and France written since 1850?         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Registration practices in Bach works From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:23:31 -0800 (PST)   On "another list" They are talking about Bach and Registration. Bring it on here! One of our favorite Bach works, the BWV 541 "Great" P and F is a piece = that can be played so beautifully in all registers. I play the prelude = sometimes "in Organo Pleno" sometimes for a robust postlude, and the = fugue, with registration changes, when I feel gutsy to do the whole thing = for an extended prelude. Susan Ferre also opened me to using an "Italian" = Plenum, with 8, 4, 2 2/3 and 2 on the manuals with 8 principal and 8 = reed on the pedal. It's ok for a lighter fare. I like playing it the big = way mostly.   What are your thoughts?     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Walker From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:39:38 -0500   Does anybody know if Bob Walker has a website? (I'm speaking of Bob = Walker of Walker digital organs - a brilliant man.)   Tnx.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Saint Mark's, Grand Rapids From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:46:29 EST   In a message dated 02/29/04 6:10:54 PM, jlspeller@mindspring.com writes:   << http://www.jlransford.com/stmarks/Specs.htm >>   Oddly, the website history of the organ mentions the Odell, the Austin, = and the forthcoming Walker, but not a word about the Bedient, which I believe = was the subject of a documentary when it was first put up.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City   ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Saint Mark's, Grand Rapids From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 15:54:00 -0800 (PST)   Yes that is exactly right, it was the subject of a very well done = documentary, "Wind At ones Fingertips" and focuses in on Mechanical = action.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: New chair of organ dept at Juilliard announced From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:21:38 -0500   On 2/29/04 9:47 AM, "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote:   >> > he's not even 30.   How important IS that?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Convergent worship From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:52:05 -0500   On 2/29/04 9:49 AM, "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> wrote:   > interspersed > Hi Alan > : Re: Convergent worship > >> On 2/28/04 8:59 PM, "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> wrote: >> >>> My wife and I go to 2 churches. >> >> You mean, like, "together" or "separately"? Must be, like, a full = Sunday >> morning! > > We alternate. She is the church secretary of the Methodist church. She > is/was Methodist, I, Lutheran but particpate with her in her church.and = we > both particpate in mine. >> >>> I am MO. Synod Lutheran and our minister is very liberal and ours is a = close >>> to downtown. He keeps everyone happy by 4 services. Saturday at 5PM = more >>> or less liturgical. >> >> That sounds pretty normal. Almost ALL services (regardless of = denomination) >> are "more or less liturgical"). Do you have a sense of where HIS = "head" >> really "is"? I believe he tries to be open to all people regardless of = their >> style. We are also very open to Gays, and Lesbians. It seems to work = for >> us.   I can certainly applaud THAT! That's very much like my congregation. = MOST of our "assisting persons" in the liturgy are gay, and nobody cares a BIT. It's just not important to us. (We've never done gay unions or anything like that; whether we ever will, I could not possibly guess.) > > Is he faithful to that, or is he just "selling product"? (Which may be = OK too; > I'm just wondering.) > >> He seems to be caring for all and is an inspiration to us. He is in = his >> later 50's and is at the top of his "game". James   Sounds good to me. >> >>> 8:45 AM on Sunday with a Chicago style service. Never figured out = what that >>> means., >> >> I'm chuckling WITH you, I think. I've never heard of that one either. = (But >> it's ages since I've been in Chicago. If you find out, I'd be very = curious >> to know what it IS!) >> >>> 10:15 regular liturgical service and once a month service in German = for the >>> real old liners. >> >> That's decent. Where IS this church? (I mean, "what city?") >> >>> The Methodist service >> >> "Methodist service"? In an LCMS church? (Not unheard of, perhaps, but = a >> wee bit unusual.) >> >>> are much more free style and in the summer will have another service = at a >>> school close by with a contemporary (band and all) for the really >>> unchurched. >> >> Boy, THAT must be a tough pull! I will most definitely wish them the = best! A >> "band and all" for the really unchurched. I don't even know where to = start. >> Why? I guess. Really unchurched folks like "band" music? (I didn't = know!) >> >>> The Methodist church has a video screen now intact. My opinion is = that >>> churches are trying any or all things to attract members. >> >> Well, I can't blame them for THAT. In fact, I should PRAISE them for = that. A >> video screen now intact! Everything's up to date in Kansas City! = Seriously, >> I'm in a mid-Manhattan parish with a bunch of young members from middle = USA >> who came to NYC to "break into theatre" (with varying success), and who = HATED >> their Midwestern church homes for "pandering" to them with electronics, >> "P&W," etc., while what they really wanted was the OLD stuff that their = hippy >> parents were rejecting. We are super-traditional (see = www.stlukesnyc.org for >> the evidence) and the young crowd LOVES IT! >> >> Nevertheless, and without knowing how the Methodists got it there, and = not >> knowing who goes to the Methodist church, I wish you the BEST! >> >> Alan (for whom it IS a bit confusing) >> Well, OK; and thank you. I'd still be interested (in the most general = way) WHERE this place is. (But it's not really important.)   Still curious about "Chicago style," of course. What IS it?   Do "really unchurched folks" have a particular fondness for "band music"? (EYE do [have done tons of it], but I didn't know it was a particular favorite of "really unchurched folks."   What IS the function of a "video screen now intact"? What's it FOR?   Any reaction to my allegation that the Midwestern young folks are flocking to New York City for both careers AND for the (very traditional) "worship styles" of their GRANDparents (NOT their parents)? Would you care to interview a few of them?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: LISTEN UP! The fate of the Organ department at Chicago Musical Coll From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:54:34 -0500   On 2/29/04 9:53 AM, "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote:   > Gerre Hancock sounds damned attractive. >=20 > =A7=A7=A7 Boy, THAT=B9s putting it very mildly! >=20 > I mean, being that I want jobs like he has had and that he's great with S= acred > Music, its a tiny bit glowing. >=20 > =A7=A7=A7 Today, you are a master (mistress) of understatement. >=20 > Alan >=20      
(back) Subject: Re: from bad to verse From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:05:06 -0500   On 2/29/04 1:04 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > If we can't call a hymn stanza a verse, then how can we sing "Second = verse, > same as the first, / A little bit louder and a little bit worse"? You = have > all heard that, right?   Right. I have. My case is destroyed.   I heard it as "Same song, second verse; a whole lot [little bit] louder, = but a whole lot [little bit] worse." (Or something like that.) NOTHING seems to rhyme with "stanza." Contest for best entry?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs in IL From: <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:07:59 -0500   Contact johannus.com for information on nearest dealer. They will direct you to the appropriate company or person.   Gary     Quoting "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>:   > Hi all > Who dealers for Johannus in Illinois? They are a strong consideration f= or our > possible project at my church, as we need more to our pipes but no spac= e.=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > >From Desiree'=20 > T. Desiree' Hines > Chicago, IL 60649 > http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html >=20 > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail        
(back) Subject: Re: Walker From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:08:40 EST   In a message dated 2/29/2004 6:40:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, pnst.shirley@verizon.net writes:   > Does anybody know if Bob Walker has a website? (   does not need one......but have no theard of one.     dale in florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs in IL From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:11:01 EST   try ahlborn-galanti.com   Chicago is home......