PipeChat Digest #4190 - Friday, January 2, 2004
 
RE: Diane Bish Organ Concert
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: Organists Shoes
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
Re: Iconoclasm & prose
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Organists and Compensation
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: clearing house
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: clearing house
  by <DavidL1205@aol.com>
Re: Organists Shoes
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: clearing house
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
Re: Organists Shoes
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Organists Shoes
  by "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu>
Recital Announcement - Alton, IL (St. Louis)
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net>
organists' pay
  by "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Diane Bish Organ Concert From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 20:50:18 -0600   Hmm, I wonder who the second lady of the organ is,,,,,   michael - who also thinks it's nice when people identify themselves to the list   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Icedad@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 4:46 PM To: Allen-Organ-Owners@yahoogroups.com; steve@virgilfox.com; pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Diane Bish Organ Concert     Organ Concert   Diane Bish, the First Lady of the Organ, will present an Organ Concert = on Sunday, Jan. 18, 2004, at 3:30 PM at Our Lady of Hope Catholic Church, = Port Orange, Florida. Miss Bish will perform on an Allen Renaissance 80 Stop Three-Manual = custom digital/pipe instrument, which includes a newly installed Trumpet en = Chamade and eight ranks of Rieger-Kloss pipes. The concert is sponsored by Dunne Music Company, Orlando, and Our Lady = of Hope Music Ministry. $10.00 General Admission. Information: 386-788-6144, ext. 27.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists Shoes From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 19:04:22 -0800   I believe that decent playing shoes should be worn by all organist just a = show of good organ manners. I'm currently rebuilding a pedalboard that looks like the = organist first walked through the tar covered parking lot, then through the sand box. In = addition to that, at the heel end of the naturals it looks like a hammer was used = (metal heel plates on the shoes).   With any decent instrument these days priced at $100.000 and up, just = common sense and good manners dictates proper foot wear when seated at the console.   My 2 cents worth.   Vern   "John L. Speller" wrote:   > Shirley wrote: > > >I'm one of those who played for too many years in stockinged feet. = Then I > >graduated to ballet slippers. During the next year, I'll *have* to = learn to play in > >real shoes. > > > >I need a wide width, thanks to bunions. I see Organmaster offers their = shoes in > >wide, but do you think that wider shoes will hinder my ability to play = passages that > >involve close pedalling (lots of half-steps, e.g.)? > > > > > I think it was Conrad Eden, organist of Durham Cathedral in the North of > England back in the 1950's who, when being asked by a new student what > shoes he should wear to play the organ, went out, came back wearing a > pair of hobnail boots, and played the Toccata in F by Bach faultlessly > from memory. > > John Speller > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Iconoclasm & prose From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 22:13:19 -0500   Colin, your points are well taken, though I think what you really mean is = "a move _toward_ prosaic language"!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 1/1/04 5:46 PM, Colin Mitchell at cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   > > > Hello, > > The destruction of "art" was, I believe, a very > deliberate act right across the Christian world of > churchgoing. > > It wasn't something which happened in isolation. > There > was a move away from prosaic language and high art >....    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists and Compensation From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2004 22:15:44 -0500   on 1/1/04 6:42 PM, First Christian Church of Casey, IL at kzrev@rr1.net wrote:   .... > Dennis Steckley > Who is Pastor of a church of 400 members, and the ONLY organist of any = sort > in the whole church, except for one lady confined to a nursing home.   Dennis, I've been meaning to ask: do you indeed play the organ at the church where you are pastor? That would be way cool!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu          
(back) Subject: Re: clearing house From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:32:26 -0500   Hi David, and Others,   I just clicked on the URL and the site came up immediately. Perhaps there was a temporary problem. This is the URL that I was using: http://www.organclearinghouse.com/   I am not sure what you are looking for, but you might find something = useful through the Harpsichord Clearing House. They have some small Organs, = mostly continuo. http://www.harpsichord.com/index.html   I hope you are well, and wish you a happy New Year.   Malcolm     ----- Original Message ----- From: <DavidL1205@aol.com> To: <davide@theatreorgans.com>; <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 7:28 PM Subject: clearing house     > Pardon me if I have not read something important in the journals, but = why is > the organ clearing house web site down? > > David Lowry > 1829 Senate Street, 14C > Columbia, SC 29201-3838 > DavidL1205@aol.com > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: clearing house From: <DavidL1205@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 22:43:26 EST   Malcolm, thanks. Someone else asked me why it was down .. That URL will not come up for me = on Explorer or Netscape, but it DOES COME UP FINE through AOL Internet. ! The person who asked, as well as I, are MAC, so maybe the site is under holiday maintenance or something and there is a cyberspace MAC thing = involved. At least I'm assured it's there. We'll work through it somehow. And they = think the eucharist has mysteries! Try cyberspace. All the best   David Lowry 1829 Senate Street, 14C Columbia, SC 29201-3838 DavidL1205@aol.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Organists Shoes From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:33:01 -0500   > > --Shirley, wanting to order the gold ones, but will stay with classic = black. > Go for the GOLD!!!!!! Heck, who's going to see them, anyway, besides you? =   They will probably even make you feel better and that will show through in =   your playing. :-> (Tic Tac Toes offers wide sizes, too.)   Cheers, TommyLee    
(back) Subject: Re: clearing house From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:39:53 -0500   > Someone else asked me why it was down .. That URL will not come up for = me on > Explorer or Netscape, but it DOES COME UP FINE through AOL Internet. ! > The person who asked, as well as I, are MAC, so maybe the site is under > holiday maintenance or something and there is a cyberspace MAC thing involved. At > least I'm assured it's there.   David, Works fine on my Mac, and I'm using Netscape 7. Could be a problem with = the internet service provider in SC, though. Sometimes that sort of thing happens.   TommyLee (orignally from SC, transplanted to VA)    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists Shoes From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 23:51:10 EST   In a message dated 1/1/2004 5:56:50 PM Central Standard Time, manderusa@earthlink.net writes: Dear Tina, Andrew, and List,   I don't know very many who play without shoes, but I can tell you that English concert Organist and composer David Liddle always plays in = stocking feet, and there is NOTHING that he cannot play. David is blind, and says he = began playing in stocking feet as it saved him lots of time trying to figure out = where his shoes were! There are several CDs of his playing* that are fully convincing. I myself am fully dependent on my shoes.   *There is one Priory recording at Hull City Hall - music of Alfred = Hollins. *There are two recordings on the Guild Label, both done at St. Ignatius Loyola, New York Speaking of English organists-I saw James Lancelot play an entire recital = in a pair of bulky looking dress shoes-the kind where the sole and the heel = stick out a bit-and he didn't drop a note. Daniel Roth plays in street shoes, along with many of the french women. One of my old teachers said, "You = have to go see the Franch babes play in high-heels," and he wasn't joking. Ever = since I heard all of these stories, I have slowly been slowly learning to play = in street shoes for fun-but I still wear organ master's for serious stuff. I = can tell you one thing for sure-its 100% easier to play in ANY kind of shoe on = a flat pedal board-especially a sloppy street shoe. greg             Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists Shoes From: "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu> Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2004 00:20:01 -0500   >>> Gfc234@aol.com 01/01/04 11:51 PM >>>   >I can tell you one thing for sure-its 100% easier to play in ANY kind of shoe on a >flat pedal board-especially a sloppy street shoe.   He's right! When I was in Germany playing on the flat pedal boards, I played in my Birkenstock sandals with no problem at all! (Though that's only cause my luggage got lost and my organ shoes had been checked!)   Shelley                
(back) Subject: Recital Announcement - Alton, IL (St. Louis) From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@charter.net> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 00:07:09 -0600   I'd like to plug my upcoming recital of 20th century music for Trumpet and Keyboard. This program, to be presented January 9, 2004 at 7:00 pm in the First Presbyterian Church of Alton, Illinois will feature the Sonata for Trumpet and Organ by Naji Hakim, and the Sonata for Trumpet and Piano by Eric Ewazen, as well as many other works. Organist is Brent Johnson and Trumpeter is Ron Foster. The public is invited to hear this program of unique music.     Brent Johnson ORGANLive - Music of the organ on demand www.organlive.com    
(back) Subject: organists' pay From: "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net> Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 03:29:50 -0600 (CST)   There are three crucial issues in organists receiving fair payment.   1) Parishioners not tithing. This has been touched on by Bud. People need to be instilled from childhood with the fact that the church can not fulfill it's Christian mission/ministry without adequate finances. This means more than just keeping the doors open for weekends, funerals, and weddings. There are plenty of so-called "poor" churches whose members have nice homes & cars, plus creature comforts galore. The church simply gets whats left after the cigarettes are bought, the expensive sneakers are purchased, there's a second TV, etc.   2) The ludicrous notion of small towns, villages, even cities having several church buildings instead of sharing or even combining churches. I grew up in a rural area, so I know what goes on. Several churches of the same denomination exist because of divisive "pride" or un-Christian attitudes. Hence, there are small churches unnecessarily struggling to pay for clergy, maintenance, etc., and having wretched music because of ill-equipped volunteer or low paid musicians.   3) Music is a ministry the same as what the clergy do is a ministry. The life-blood of any church is it's worship. It is there that people are nourished and also challenged to do the mission of the church. When will people/clergy get that? It's no wonder that praise bands have taken over. Why would people want to be lead by an untrained organist/pianist playing on some insipid instrument? It takes a well-trained keyboardist to make even a piece of junk sound good. It's easier to find guitarists and drum players who play better than some "organists" I've heard.   Bless any trained musician who plays for free out of love. I am just very skeptical of churches that claim poverty, no matter what the size of membership.