PipeChat Digest #4196 - Sunday, January 4, 2004
 
RE: Bulletins
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Banjo/organ?
  by "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by "WILSON JOHN" <madnessreigns@prodigy.net>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by "black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
CBS sunday Morning
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Treatise on wedding music
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: Parish demographics
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
J. S. Bach Edition
  by "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com>
RE: J. S. Bach Edition
  by "Thomas J. Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: J. S. Bach Edition
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Scott Foppiano Plays Rochester Wurlitzer on Jan. 11 (cross-posted)
  by "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com>
Re: Bulletins
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
The King James Bible, the Book of Common Prayer, and Shakespeare
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
RE: Banjo/organ?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Banjo/organ?
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
RE: J. S. Bach Edition
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
Re: J. S. Bach Edition
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Banjo/organ? + accordian
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Banjo/organ? + accordian
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: J. S. Bach Edition
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: Is the Church in a bad way?
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: J. S. Bach Edition
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Bulletins From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:37:55 -0000     The Spell Chequer   Eye have a spelling chequer It came with my pea sea It plainly marques four my revue Miss steaks eye kin knot sea. Eye strike a key and type a word And weight four it two say Weather eye am wrong oar write. It shows me strait a weigh. As soon as a mist ache is maid It nose bee fore two long and eye can put the error rite. Its rare lea ever wrong. Eye have run this poem threw it I am shore your pleased two no Its letter perfect awl the weigh My chequer tolled me sew.   Sauce unknown   Will Light Coventry UK     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of First Christian Church of Casey, IL Sent: 31 December 2003 05:13 To: PipeChat Subject: Bulletins   With REAL names like Oliphant Chuckerbutty, who has to make up names!   My home church bulletin regularly invited people to come down the center "isle," and mentioned those who played an active "roll" in the church.   And, of course, it is quite simple to have the Untied Methodist Church or the Prince of Peach Lutheran Church.   And Eye wood knot count on a spell checker two find everything or ewe will certainly bee embarrassed!   Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Banjo/organ? From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 12:46:05 -0500   Hi everyone,   I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's quite capable of doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo and organ -- or pieces you think might be successfully arranged for banjo and organ?   Steve Best in Utica, NY    
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: "WILSON JOHN" <madnessreigns@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 10:08:07 -0800 (PST)   --- Stephen Best <sbest@borg.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's > quite capable of > doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo > and organ -- or > pieces you think might be successfully arranged for > banjo and organ? > > Steve Best in Utica, NY > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > bscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Dear Steve,   The Back Jesu Joy of,.. works well. You can do your own arrangement, alternating the"accompanyment" from organ to banjo.   John Wilson,     > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 12:18:41 -0600     > Hi everyone, > > I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's quite capable of > doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo and organ -- or > pieces you think might be successfully arranged for banjo and organ? > > Steve Best in Utica, NY >   Steve, How about the Widor Tocatta?   Stan      
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: "black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 12:27:35 -0600   Hi Stephen, I have done accordian/organ and sax/organ. Hymns work well. Have fun. Gary   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "Pipe organ list" <PIPORG-L@LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU> Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: Banjo/organ?     > Hi everyone, > > I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's quite capable of > doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo and organ -- or > pieces you think might be successfully arranged for banjo and organ? > > Steve Best in Utica, NY > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: CBS sunday Morning From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 14:51:18 -0400   Is there a link we can watch a news clip on the Pipe Organ segment that was on thismorning I missed it.    
(back) Subject: Treatise on wedding music From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:16:36 -0500   For an excellent treatise on wedding music, see http://www.elca.org/dcm/worship/faq/music/weddings.html   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:37:03 -0500       On 4 Jan 2004 at 12:46, Stephen Best wrote: > Any ideas on music for banjo and organ -- or > pieces you think might be successfully arranged for banjo and organ?     When the Saints go Marching In on All Saints Sunday???   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Parish demographics From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 15:00:01 -0500   On 1/3/04 10:30 PM, "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net> wrote:   > In trying to split hairs between 89 including or excluding kids I came > across the following on the internet. I do not vouch for the quality of = any > of this research. > Well, Wm. G. Chapman! You've certainly been MOST helpful. More info = there than I know what to DO with, so far. I'm printing out some of it.   Thanks you just terribly MUCH.   Alan    
(back) Subject: J. S. Bach Edition From: "r" <basset3@hvc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:07:06 -0500   Is there a Dupre edition of the Bach LIttle Preludes and Fugues? If so, who carries them? Thanks, Robert Clooney basset3@hvc.rr.com    
(back) Subject: RE: J. S. Bach Edition From: "Thomas J. Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 16:12:11 -0500   I believe the 8 little p & F are in Volume 5 of the Dupre' Bach editions -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of r Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:07 PM To: PipeChat Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] J. S. Bach Edition     Is there a Dupre edition of the Bach LIttle Preludes and Fugues? If so, who carries them? Thanks, Robert Clooney basset3@hvc.rr.com    
(back) Subject: Re: J. S. Bach Edition From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 13:42:07 -0800   LONG out of print, I think, but most large libraries should have the Dupre edition of Bach's organ works.   Bud   r wrote:   > Is there a Dupre edition of the Bach LIttle Preludes and Fugues? > If so, who carries them? > Thanks, > Robert Clooney > basset3@hvc.rr.com <mailto:basset3@hvc.rr.com> >      
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:47:04 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Well, Carlo Curley used to play "Cotton pickin' Banjo" on the organ, so I guess that might be a start.   You play it before the service, and afterwards smile as you turn to the Banjoist, saying, "I've put you down for the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor as the final voluntary!"   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Stephen Best <sbest@borg.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's > quite capable of > doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo > and organ -- or > pieces you think might be successfully arranged for > banjo and organ? > > Steve Best in Utica, NY > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Scott Foppiano Plays Rochester Wurlitzer on Jan. 11 (cross-posted) From: "Kenneth Evans" <kevans1@rochester.rr.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:35:20 -0500   The Rochester Theater Organ Society is proud to again present Scott = Foppiano on our Wurlitzer 4/23 on Sunday afternoon, January 11 at 2:30 PM. This = event takes place in the newly remodeled Auditorium Center at 875 East Main Street, Rochester, NY 14605. Tickets at the door will go on sale one hour before the concert for only $15 each. RTOS members will enjoy free admission.   Driving directions (plus much more) are available on our homepage at http://theatreorgans.com/rochestr/ . Slide shows of last month's on-stage party to celebrate the 4/23's 75th birthday and of recent theater = organists that have entertained our audiences are new additions to the site.   Please join us for a Sunday afternoon theater pipe organ musicale.   Ken Evans, RTOS Director    
(back) Subject: Re: Bulletins From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:04:34 EST   Will,   That's the reason we updated our US Prayerbook, I think--un-spell-checked stuff reads like the old Prayerbook. Here's a parody, which reads alot = like some of Warlock's lyrics:   Ducking under the Roof-es Decking, Ne another word out-spreking; Frankis wordes here ne to finde, Ic hope te be my gottis frende.   Fun, not including "Frankish Words", BH    
(back) Subject: The King James Bible, the Book of Common Prayer, and Shakespeare From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 16:13:07 -0800   The three-legged stool upon which the modern English language is based.   That's the reason we updated our US Prayerbook, I > think--un-spell-checked stuff reads like the old Prayerbook. Here's a > parody, which reads alot like some of Warlock's lyrics: >   Ducking under the Roof-es Decking, > Ne another word out-spreking; > Frankis wordes here ne to finde, > Ic hope te be my gottis frende.   BH hath penn'd, seeking a laugh, What showeth him to be but daft; For pray'rs sublime and wordes fair Shall from fair Anglia perish ne'er.   (Bud Clark, in the Year of Our Lord 2004)   Um, EDUCATED people would have no trouhle reading that, the Book of Common Prayer (1549) or Chaucer, or Shakespeare, or ...   Dumbing down the English language serves no purpose.   Shall we also stop singing "Adam Lay Ybounden" and "I Sing of A Maiden That Is Makeless" (sic) at Lessons and Carols, in favour of something like that aleatoric SCREECH that King's did this year, nearly ruining the boys' voices in the process?   Bud          
(back) Subject: RE: Banjo/organ? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:06:54 -0600   This I would like to hear. My dad played banjo, among other stringed instruments, but no classical and not with organ.   If Bela Fleck can do it, so can you. I really want to hear about your efforts.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Best   I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's quite capable of doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo and organ -- or pieces you think might be successfully arranged for banjo and organ?          
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 19:49:59 -0500   > If Bela Fleck can do it, so can you. I really want to hear about your > efforts. > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com >   I just learned the other day that Bela Fleck was named after Bela Bartok!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:07:34 EST   In a message dated 1/4/04 12:46:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, = sbest@borg.com writes:   << I have a very fine banjo player in my church who's quite capable of doing classical music. Any ideas on music for banjo and organ -- or pieces you think might be successfully arranged for banjo and organ? >>   You might want to look at pieces for guitar and organ (I'm sure there must = be some) and have the banjo player arrange the guitar part to fit the banjo.    
(back) Subject: RE: J. S. Bach Edition From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 20:24:50 -0600   Confirmed. I have this edition myself. I bought mine in 1985.   Jeff   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Thomas J. Hoehn Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 3:12 PM To: PipeChat Subject: RE: J. S. Bach Edition     I believe the 8 little p & F are in Volume 5 of the Dupre' Bach editions -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of = r Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:07 PM To: PipeChat Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] J. S. Bach Edition     Is there a Dupre edition of the Bach LIttle Preludes and Fugues? If so, who carries them? Thanks, Robert Clooney basset3@hvc.rr.com    
(back) Subject: Re: J. S. Bach Edition From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:41:07 -0800   George Butterfield at Organ Stop in San Diego pointed out to me that it's still in print, and can be ordered from Presser, at a cost of about $50 per volume. THAT part of the info may be out of date ... I thought Presser lost all the French imports to somebody else recently.   Cheers,   Bud   Jeff White wrote:   > Confirmed. I have this edition myself. I bought mine in 1985. > > Jeff > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf > Of Thomas J. Hoehn > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 3:12 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: RE: J. S. Bach Edition > > I believe the 8 little p & F are in Volume 5 of the Dupre' Bach = editions > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On > Behalf Of r > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:07 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] J. S. Bach Edition > > Is there a Dupre edition of the Bach LIttle Preludes and Fugues? > If so, who carries them? > Thanks, > Robert Clooney > basset3@hvc.rr.com <mailto:basset3@hvc.rr.com> >      
(back) Subject: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:44:07 -0800   How do y'all feel about using parallel fifths and octaves in Gregorian Chant accompaniment? Usually I write in strict common-practice four-part harmony, but given that octaves, fourths and fifths were the only consonant intervals early on, sometimes I'm inclined to write them.   What think you?   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:54:53 EST   Dear Bud:   IMHO you also need to consider temperment when doing that kind of writing. For example quarter comma meantone. I happen to like the effect no matter what my harmony teacher forced on me. <G>   Ron    
(back) Subject: RE: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:06:31 -0600   I took Music Foundations (Theory and Harmony) with Dr. Paul Bunjes at Concordia in River Forest. He instructed us to NEVER write parallel. However, I never understood WHY? Is this the "common practice" you refer to, Bud?   I like the sound of parallel voicing sometimes. A really easy way to harmonize a hymn is to have your tenors and sopranos sing a 5th higher = than the altos and bass. Try it with "Savior of the Nations Come". :)   Jeff   Dear Bud:   IMHO you also need to consider temperment when doing that kind of writing. For example quarter comma meantone. I happen to like the effect no matter what my harmony teacher forced on me. <G>   Ron    
(back) Subject: Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 19:23:41 -0800       Jeff White wrote:   > I took Music Foundations (Theory and Harmony) with Dr. Paul Bunjes at > Concordia in River Forest. He instructed us to NEVER write parallel. > However, I never understood WHY? Is this the "common practice" you > refer to, Bud?   Define Common Practice ... hmmm ... Bach more-or-less stays within its limits; Buxtehude doesn't; Mozart and Haydn do, for the most post; Beethoven does, till you get to the late string quartets. So actually it's a fairly circumscribed time-frame. > > I like the sound of parallel voicing sometimes. A really easy way to > harmonize a hymn is to have your tenors and sopranos sing a 5th higher > than the altos and bass. Try it with "Savior of the Nations Come". :)   Just so ... the earliest harmony was paralllel organum at the fourth above and/or the fifth below.     > > Jeff > > Dear Bud: > > IMHO you also need to consider temperment when doing that > kind of writing. For example quarter comma meantone. I happen > to like the effect no matter what my harmony teacher forced on me. > <G> > > Ron   Well, actually, wouldn't they have been still singing in the Pythagorean scale? don't know how you reproduce THAT on an organ (grin).   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? + accordian From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:26:01 -0800   OK - this true: I've actually played the accordian and organ (electronic) at the same time! Left hand has on bellows/bass, right alternates between accordian & organ, feet on pedals. All that was missing was the harmonica.   Kinda like Lawrence Welk/Ralston. You'll try anything once for senior citizens.   David E   On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 1:12pm, black wrote: > Hi Stephen, I have done accordian/organ and sax/organ. Hymns work > well. > Have fun. Gary >     David E   David Evangelides Fulfillment Manager International Bible Society Colorado Springs, CO 80921  
(back) Subject: Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:35:26 EST   Hi Bud:   Let's just say in modern temperment the effect is satisfactory, but much better in 1/4 comma meantone. Pythagorean only favors one or two keys, 1/4 comma about 6 or 7 in major and minor and a few more if you really push it. Most of Bach organ works fit into 1/4, 1/5, 1/6 comma meantone depending on where the wolf was stuck. The famous 48 go much father afield, in well temper for clavichord and harpsichord. There are some modal hymns in the 1940 that sound good with fourths and fifths. I improvise with those elements all the time. It makes things interesting.   Ron    
(back) Subject: Re: Banjo/organ? + accordian From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:41:28 -0500   You were carrying on a grand old tradition. Nicolaus Bruhns was said to have played the violin while accompanying himself on the pedals.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       on 1/4/04 10:26 PM, David Evangelides at davide@theatreorgans.com wrote:   > OK - this true: I've actually played the accordian and organ > (electronic) at the same time! Left hand has on bellows/bass, right > alternates between accordian & organ, feet on pedals. All that was > missing was the harmonica. > > Kinda like Lawrence Welk/Ralston. You'll try anything once for senior > citizens. > > David E > > On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 1:12pm, black wrote: >> Hi Stephen, I have done accordian/organ and sax/organ. Hymns work >> well. >> Have fun. Gary >> > > > David E > > David Evangelides > Fulfillment Manager > International Bible Society > Colorado Springs, CO 80921 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: J. S. Bach Edition From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 20:37:07 -0700       > r wrote: > > Is there a Dupre edition of the Bach LIttle Preludes and Fugues? > If so, who carries them? > Thanks, > Robert Clooney > basset3@hvc.rr.com   Yes, as you have now learned, there is a Dupre edition. However, I sincerely hope you won't use it. If you follow the fingerings, etc., you will be doing things that are far from the style of the time. (As you probably know, Bach was not the composer of these works.)   I learned from and taught from this edition for many years. How I regret the fingering contortions it required. Using more appropriate fingerings and pedaling will make them much easier to play.   Saundra Soderlund has produced an excellent edition of these wonderful little pieces. I believe Wayne Leupold is the publisher. I hope you will obtain this edition. You will learn a great deal from it.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College Angwin, CA  
(back) Subject: Re: Is the Church in a bad way? From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:35:46 EST   Jesus said the love of many would wax cold . . . and so it has. I hasten = to insist that ministers preaching Genesis, the Virgin Birth, Miracles (both Biblical and miracles today), Resurrection, etc., are ministers preaching = truth, believable truth.   The recently sung Christmas Carol rings on: "God is not dead, nor doth he sleep!"   Dale G. Rider M. Sacred Mus., CAGO    
(back) Subject: Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:12:53 -0600   I only started college theory last fall, but I got the idea that common practice writing started after the Reformation and that before this Gregorian chant was often harmonized with parallels. The organist/choir director before me used the Agnus Dei (English) from the Holy Cross Mass by David Clarke Isele, which has a Gregorian feel and employs parallels in some places. Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@cox.net To: anglican-music@list.stsams.org, PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 18:44:07 -0800 Subject: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)   > How do y'all feel about using parallel fifths and octaves in Gregorian > Chant accompaniment? Usually I write in strict common-practice > four-part > harmony, but given that octaves, fourths and fifths were the only > consonant intervals early on, sometimes I'm inclined to write them. > > What think you? > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: J. S. Bach Edition From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 23:21:44 -0600   There are different opinions on who wrote the Little Preludes and Fugues. My professor told me that J.S. wrote them for his young son, others say that Krebs wrote them. Perhaps this should be the topic for a music history paper, if I need one... Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: Del Case <dcase@puc.edu> > > Yes, as you have now learned, there is a Dupre edition. However, I > sincerely hope you won't use it. If you follow the fingerings, etc., > you will be doing things that are far from the style of the time. > (As you probably know, Bach was not the composer of these works.) > > I learned from and taught from this edition for many years. How I > regret the fingering contortions it required. Using more appropriate > fingerings and pedaling will make them much easier to play.