PipeChat Digest #4197 - Monday, January 5, 2004
Re: J. S. Bach Edition
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
hymn tune
  by "black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Is the Church in a bad way?
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>

(back) Subject: Re: J. S. Bach Edition From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 00:55:44 EST   Alicia:   Until someone comes up with a difinitive name of the composer, and can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, I'd still give old JSB the benefit of the doubt. I seriously doubt the case will ever be made. Krebs 50 fuges don't even come close in quality to the little eight, or the Jig Fugue also in question. To the so called experts, if you can't make the case, then don't stir the pot to confuse people. That's all it is right now. Nobody has proven a thing, it's just educated noise. It's like tosing dirt clods in a bucket of clear water. When it all settles the dirt is on the bottom. And it's still dirt.   Please don't take my remarks personally. But I've heard these stories many times, and nobody great or small has come up with a provable answer. Until someone will stick their neck out, I don't put much credence to any of it.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: hymn tune From: "black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:56:37 -0600   HI list, I went to the movies and saw Calendar Girls the other night. In the movie was a hymn entitled, New Jerusalem? I have never heard it before and fell for this in a big way; what a beautiful and powerful hymn! If = any of you sing this at church or can tell me more about it; I would be most appreciative. We sure don't sing it in the UMC. (oh, don't get me = started) lol Thanks, Gary      
(back) Subject: Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted) From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 09:38:56 -0000   And then, there are many, the first to mind is my neighbouring parish, who would attest that Gregorian Chant requires 'NO' accompaniment - of any sort - even in parallels.   I suppose it's a bit like Bacon & Eggs, Fish and Chips, Gin & Tonic - it = is sufficient like it is. <Don't Mess>   or like that marvellous ditty to the Mitsubishi advert, "You don't tug on Superman's cape, You don't spit into the wind; You don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger, An' you don't mess-around with him!"   Ahh...... 'The Ol' Lone Ranger' ..... now THAT brings back memories ...........   Harry [musicman] Grove   -----Original Message----- From: Alicia Zeilenga <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 05 January 2004 04:50 Subject: Re: Gregorian Chant accompaniments (X-posted)     >Gregorian chant was often harmonized with parallels. <    
(back) Subject: Re: Is the Church in a bad way? From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 03:55:35 -0600   WHATEVER!!! Now, let's get back on TOPIC and leave religion out of it.   Tim ----- Original Message -----=20 From: ProOrgo53@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 10:35 PM Subject: Re: Is the Church in a bad way?     Jesus said the love of many would wax cold . . . and so it has. I = hasten to insist that ministers preaching Genesis, the Virgin Birth, = Miracles (both Biblical and miracles today), Resurrection, etc., are = ministers preaching truth, believable truth.=20   The recently sung Christmas Carol rings on: "God is not dead, nor doth = he sleep!"   Dale G. Rider M. Sacred Mus., CAGO     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004