PipeChat Digest #4211 - Sunday, January 11, 2004
 
"Restoration" of Hill Auditorium at U. of Michigan
  by <OrganNYC@aol.com>
Re: Organists' Burials: Leipzig & Berlin
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Nested swell boxes?
  by "Martin Dyde" <martin.dyde@hauptwerk.co.uk>
Re: Nested swell boxes?
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Nested swell boxes?
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Dupre editions
  by "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@prairieinet.net>
RE: Nested swell boxes?
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
Calvary Baptist Church, Manhattan
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Nested swell boxes?
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Calvary Baptist Church, Manhattan
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
RE: Nested swell boxes?
  by "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net>
Is it Epiphany out there?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
"14th Century Period English Organ"
  by "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com>
Re: "14th Century Period English Organ"
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: "14th Century Period English Organ"
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Calvary Baptist Church, Manhattan
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Is it Epiphany out there?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: "14th Century Period English Organ"
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: "14th Century Period English Organ"
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
RE: Is it Epiphany out there?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: "14th Century Period English Organ"
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Is it Epiphany out there?
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
AGO 2004 LA
  by "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
swell boxes
  by "black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
 

(back) Subject: "Restoration" of Hill Auditorium at U. of Michigan From: <OrganNYC@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:18:22 EST   While perusing the online edition of The New York Times <nyt.com> I = noticed an article (dated January 8, 2004) about the reopening of Hill Auditorium = at the University of Michigan. The accompanying photo is worth the look: the =   formerly whitewashed interior now has its original colors and lighting = restored, and the stage view shows the organ without its familiar pipe fence. The = pipe facade, which had been a sort of robin's egg blue with stenciling, was to = be redone in a "less distracting" bronze patina. There are also reports = about taking pains to preserve the "perfect acoustics". Has anyone on the Lists = seen and heard the redone auditorium?   You may need to subscribe for free access to the NY Times article:   http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/08/arts/music/08MICH.html?ex=3D1074739357&ei= =3D1& en=3D8d21168197b96de3   The university has an interesting site for the Hill Auditorium Reopening, along with a photo gallery:   http://www.umich.edu/~urel/hill/index.html   U. of Michigan organ professor James Kibbie's website has photos of the previous facade, along with information about the organ:   http://www-personal.umich.edu/~jkibbie/hill.htm       Steve Lawson - NYC    
(back) Subject: Re: Organists' Burials: Leipzig & Berlin From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:09:46 -0600   Karg-Elert is buried in the Leipzig S=FCdfriedhof.   John Speller   Karl Moyer wrote:   > Genealogists have grave concerns, and amateur genealogist that I am, = I >guess I share that quirk. I'd be interested in knowing, apart from Bach, >what organists' grave sites are to be found in Leipzig, as well as in >Berlin. > > Indeed, might Karg-Elert be buried either in Leipzig or even back at = his >home town of Oberndorf? >        
(back) Subject: Nested swell boxes? From: "Martin Dyde" <martin.dyde@hauptwerk.co.uk> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:05:25 -0000   Does anybody whether any organs have a swell box entirely enclosed within = another, independently-controlled swell box? I'm working on modelling a swell box = in software, and want to know whether I need to allow for that (seemingly = unlikely) possibily.   Thanks, Martin Dyde http://www.hauptwerk.co.uk/    
(back) Subject: Re: Nested swell boxes? From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:10:19 EST   Martin, I'm not aware of specific examples of such a placement, nor have I = consulted my library, but the idea is provocative. I'd be very interested in exactly =   what kind of result you are trying to achieve with such a "nesting". Tell = us more!   Bill H.    
(back) Subject: Re: Nested swell boxes? From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 09:20:55 -0800   It used to be somewhat common ... the 3m Vottler-Holtkamp-Sparling formerly in St. Catharine of Siena Church, Cincinnati, had the Choir and Swell boxes in the bell tower, one BEHIND the other. The Choir spoke ONLY through the back of the Swell box.   Schoenstein has revived it, putting the loudest and softest stops together in an inner box which speaks (usually) through the Swell.   The purpose is to give a larger dynamic range, both softer and louder.   Cheers,   Bud   Martin Dyde wrote:   > Does anybody whether any organs have a swell box entirely enclosed = within another, > independently-controlled swell box? I'm working on modelling a swell = box in > software, and want to know whether I need to allow for that (seemingly = unlikely) > possibily. > > Thanks, > Martin Dyde > http://www.hauptwerk.co.uk/ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Dupre editions From: "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@prairieinet.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 11:44:18 -0600     These are listed on a used organ music list; if anyone is interested = contact me privately. MWM   J.S. Bach $6.00 " " : Organ Works, vol. 1 (Widor-Schweitzer, Schirmer)   $6.00 " " : " " vol. 4 " "   $6.00 " " : " " vol. 7 " "=20   ~$10.00 " " : Organ Works, vol. 8 (ed. Dupre, Bornemann)   $10.00 " " : " " , vol. 1 " " "   $10.00 " " : " " , vol. 2 " " "=20   #$3.50 " " : Organ Works, vol. 1 (Kalmus)   $3.50 " " : " " vol. 2 "   $3.50 " " : " " vol. 3 "   $3.50 " " : " " vol. 4 "   $3.50 " " : " " vol. 7 "   $3.50 " " : " " vol. 8 "=20   $3.50 " " : " " vol. 9 "   !$5.00 " " : Organ Works, vol. 1 (Peters)   $5.00 " " : " " , vol. 2 "   *$5.00 " " : " " , vol. 3 "   $5.00 " " : " " , vol. 5 "   $5.00 " " : " " , vol. 8 "      
(back) Subject: RE: Nested swell boxes? From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 12:49:08 -0600   The only example I've ever heard of is the Vox Humana, or am I offbase = here? Jeff > > Does anybody whether any organs have a swell box entirely > enclosed within another, > independently-controlled swell box? I'm working on modelling a > swell box in > software, and want to know whether I need to allow for that > (seemingly unlikely) > possibily.    
(back) Subject: Calvary Baptist Church, Manhattan From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:09:44 -0500   Surely it was on this list that someone posted some music (specifically organ) news, maybe two months ago.   Of not interest to me then, but NOW I hear they're shopping for a = full-time Director of Music. A friend is interested. If someone can contact me (off-list or on) it might be a mitzvah to put two people into = communication about it.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Nested swell boxes? From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 14:55:40 -0600   Letourneau Organs is doing just this very thing for their huge new = installation at St. John the Divine in Houston, Texas. Check out the = spec at www.sjd.org/music/OrganSpec.pdf     ----- Original Message -----=20 From: quilisma@cox.net=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 11:20 AM Subject: Re: Nested swell boxes?     It used to be somewhat common ... the 3m Vottler-Holtkamp-Sparling=20 formerly in St. Catharine of Siena Church, Cincinnati, had the Choir = and=20 Swell boxes in the bell tower, one BEHIND the other. The Choir spoke=20 ONLY through the back of the Swell box.   Schoenstein has revived it, putting the loudest and softest stops=20 together in an inner box which speaks (usually) through the Swell.   The purpose is to give a larger dynamic range, both softer and louder.      
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary Baptist Church, Manhattan From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:38:40 EST   It's on the positions available list at agohq.org.    
(back) Subject: RE: Nested swell boxes? From: "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 18:12:34 -0500   Martin:   Just for one example: The Vox Humana division is nested inside the Choir division of the organ in The United States Military Academy, Cadet Chapel, West Point, NY.   Wm. G. Chapman Associate Curator of Organs United States Military Academy West Point, NY     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Martin Dyde Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 12:05 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Nested swell boxes?     Does anybody whether any organs have a swell box entirely enclosed within another, independently-controlled swell box?      
(back) Subject: Is it Epiphany out there? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 17:32:24 -0600   Is it Epiphany out there?     It was a week from hell, and it was a great week. Anyway, the first full week of 2004 was eventful. Monday started with a full day in court with a new judge, and it went swimmingly, surprisingly well. However, in the middle of the afternoon session, I found out the news that a good friend and fellow attorney had been killed in an automobile accident outside Baton Rouge, along with his father-in-law. His son was critically injured, and the wife, traveling behind them in another vehicle, saw the entire accident.   Everyone was numb. When one hears devastating news like that in such a setting, it is hard to pretend and go on like nothing has happened. The stage was set for an unrealistic-seeming week.   Tuesday I received pleadings from an out-of-state attorney charging the client with unethical behavior, so spent the day trying to marshal the information needed to combat that and respond. Tuesday night I accompanied a friend to Pensacola for my first AGO meeting in several months - a Twelfth-Night Dinner at a restaurant. We ended up with about 16 people and had a ball.   A colleague for whom I had subbed one Sunday last summer walked up to me with a hefty check for my services. I had forgotten all about it, but he apologized for my not getting paid. I thought to myself, If only more friends would walk up to me with that much money, maybe I could make it to an OHS convention during an election year after all.   I made it home sometime after 10:00, to a message from my niece. Her great-aunt had died, and suddenly I had a funeral gig on Saturday. The woman was a delightful lady with whom we had shared many a Christmas Day and birthday dinner.   Wednesday was spent in depositions out of town, and Thursday in court all day out of town with a judge who had just received less than stellar marks from the local bar for his courtesy to counsel and parties. Somewhere in the middle of all this I received a message that one of my high school buddies and fellow attorneys had been tapped to sing at the funeral Saturday.   Friday was spent finding out funeral arrangements around typing memoranda of law in support of responses to motions to strike and useless but necessary meetings and phone calls.   Saturday morning I awoke, remembering I had a funeral, and I hadn't practiced! I ran downstairs and rummaged through an old hymnal and my piano music. The funeral home was new, and I didn't know what kind of piano there was. I knew there was no organ. I knew the deceased and her family were old-school Southern Baptist - oh, my! It's been a while since I played any old fundamentalist Protestant repertoire.   I met my friend (yes, he sang "The Lord's Prayer" at the wedding the day after Thanksgiving) at St. A's to practice before heading for the funeral home. There was a breakfast next door at the parish hall, so I ran into a bunch of parishioners and chatted with them, until Mark arrived and we ran through the music.   It was colder than Antarctica without snow as we arrived at the funeral home. I had never been to this facility - it was very plush. And surprise, surprise! A brand new mahogany Samick grand piano sat in the alcove. Who'd have thunk there'd be a funeral home in DeFunkiak (as we sometimes call it) with a decent instrument?   The funeral director met us at the door, wanting to know what FOUR songs Mark was going to sing - he had practiced one. Then he asked if I knew what I was playing, for the program - a program for a funeral? How refreshing. I said, "Of course not - some trade secrets are not given out to the lay person!"   Well, for someone who refuses to play "How Great Thou Art" and "Kumbaya", I guess I didn't do too badly: I did arrangements (maybe a little over-the-top piano bar) of "Blessed Assurance", "The Old Rugged Cross", and "There is a Balm in Gilead" for prelude. I accompanied as Mark sang "Abide with me" and "It is well with my soul" for his selections, and since the minister chose the 23d Psalm as his text for the sermon, I did an arrangement of "Savior, like a shepherd lead us" for the postlude. And everything fell into place - the service went as smooth as glass, nicer than any canned music.   Afterward, as we were leaving Mark asked, "Are we going to the graveside?"   "That's up to you," I replied. "It's cold as heck out there, and neither of us has a coat."   Then he suggested that the local hotel had snagged a real chef and a liquor license, and the die was cast. We had spirits to warm us up, enjoyed a cream-based crayfish soup with andouille and other goodies, then drank some more. I had some crab cakes that would rival anywhere in the South, and Mark enjoyed Tuscan chicken and cheesecake. We caught each other up on the latest gossip and local politics, pined to take our "show" on the road, and made a date to suffer together through the next local bar meeting next week. I came home with my resolution renewed to find justice and to make a difference in the land that time forgot and the decades have not improved.   So the week, with all its angst and sadness, became a celebration of life. Although next week is fraught with more aggravation and a sad memorial service for my friend, I will turn a phrase and say that in the midst of death we are in life.   May you find your own Epiphany this season.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: "14th Century Period English Organ" From: "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 16:02:56 -0800   Well, I must say I was quite intrigued to learn that Immanuel Presbyterian Church of Los Angeles has, in its Chichester Chapel, a "14th Century Period Organ" --- I wonder how well it works with the 12th Century Period Organ in the main sanctuary......chuckle   SEE http://www.immanuelpres.org/facilitiesinfo.htm   ~ C    
(back) Subject: Re: "14th Century Period English Organ" From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:04:03 EST   An amazing accomplishment, in light of the fact that not only are = there no 14th century English organs extant, but there exist no primary sources = of documentation, only scant references. While there is one 19th century = copyist's version of a pertinent document, its accuracy cannot be guaranteed, and it = is mostly an account of materials and costs. No drawings, no pipes, no = nothing.   Sebastian Still using his 6th century computer, running Visigoth 7.0  
(back) Subject: Re: "14th Century Period English Organ" From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 20:17:40 EST   This website is, perhaps, the most appalling thing I've seen in some time. =   However, it is well worth visiting if only for the pictures of perhaps the = most appalling gothic architectural pastiche a la Hollywood I have ever seen. Hopefully, the Skinner is more tasteful than building that surrounds it. I = mean, "A combination of benefits you won't find anywhere else"? Is this a church or = a pension plan?   Ducking for cover, Bill H.    
(back) Subject: Re: Calvary Baptist Church, Manhattan From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:13:55 -0500   On 1/10/04 4:38 PM, "DudelK@aol.com" <DudelK@aol.com> wrote:   > It's on the positions available list at agohq.org. >=20 Thank you, David. I=B9m passing that on to the potential inquirer.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Is it Epiphany out there? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:24:15 -0500   On 1/10/04 6:32 PM, "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote:   > May you find your own Epiphany this season. > Thank you, Glenda--for the whole report.   Do people normally do funerals in the "establishment" rather than in the church? If so, why? I'm thinking that in a church you KNOW what kind of instrument you'll run into, and there are hymnals or songbooks so people = can SING!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: "14th Century Period English Organ" From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:36:27 -0500   One of the pictures of the main church, when blown up, seems to show a = pattern on the floor that could only come from a carpet. That would = surely complete the jolly picture. Actually, is it perhaps a bit of the = Bayeux Tapestry, quietly slipped out of France for a big fee by a = larcenous L. A. decorator?   Malcolm     ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DERREINETOR@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:17 PM Subject: Re: "14th Century Period English Organ"     This website is, perhaps, the most appalling thing I've seen in some = time. However, it is well worth visiting if only for the pictures of = perhaps the most appalling gothic architectural pastiche a la Hollywood = I have ever seen. Hopefully, the Skinner is more tasteful than building = that surrounds it. I mean, "A combination of benefits you won't find = anywhere else"? Is this a church or a pension plan?   Ducking for cover, Bill H.  
(back) Subject: Re: "14th Century Period English Organ" From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:41:42 EST     > "A combination of benefits you won't find anywhere else"?   I missed the 1st part of the thread, to what or where do you refer?   thanks, Neil    
(back) Subject: RE: Is it Epiphany out there? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:48:44 -0600   I think it depends on the individual and family - if they had close ties with the church and the church can accommodate the funeral crowd, then around here in the deep South it would be done in church. If the ties are not there or strong, or in some cases the church would not be able to fit the crowd, the funeral home would be chosen. Many times the funeral home personnel find it more convenient to recommend their establishment.   I wonder what the difference in charges is for church service vs. funeral home?   I'm thrilled to find a funeral home with a grand piano - there's hope for a pipe organ yet.   Alan, in most of the fundamentalist Protestant churches down here, hymns are not sung during funerals. Any music is instrumental or solo singer.     Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Alan Freed   Do people normally do funerals in the "establishment" rather than in the church? If so, why? I'm thinking that in a church you KNOW what kind of instrument you'll run into, and there are hymnals or songbooks so people can SING!        
(back) Subject: Re: "14th Century Period English Organ" From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:07:19 EST   Neil, See the website: www.immanuelpres.org/facilitiesinfo.htm, then poke = around. BH    
(back) Subject: Re: Is it Epiphany out there? From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:12:32 EST   Glenda, As a point of information, there is a funeral home in Houston, TX, which houses a pipe organ. I forget which one, but I know it's there--a well = known retired organist from Houston played it often in the recent past to = supplement his pension. --Bill H.    
(back) Subject: AGO 2004 LA From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:13:47 -0800   Anybody planning on going at this early date? I'd sure love to go and hear the new Disney organ....!   Eric    
(back) Subject: swell boxes From: "black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 01:21:48 -0600   HI list, Is it my imagination or is there a swell box in the swell box = that houses an 8' tromba in the Skinner organ at the Congregational = Church in Evanston, Il? I attended church there a few times and it = seems like the tromba is in its own box with in the swell. What sound = that had, like more, and it was there! Gary