PipeChat Digest #4231 - Sunday, January 18, 2004
 
Re: Jerusalem
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Jerusalem
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Jerusalem
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: Bench Fees
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bench Fees
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Emma Ashford piece
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Emma Ashford piece
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Bench Fees
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: bench fees
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Wanted: Music Critiques! (a little bit off topic...)
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
RE: Prostitutes???
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Re: WEdding Fees
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Bench Fees
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Prostitution
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
The Bride's Day!!
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: bench fees
  by <RVScara@aol.com>
Re: bench fees
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Jerusalem
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
I Guess I'm an Old Timer, Now
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Weitz Grand Choeur
  by "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Jerusalem From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:22:21 -0600   Hello, Jim, et al: You wrote: > Is it just me, or is anyone else having problems > opening this? Yes, ...the download starts, ...then, bogs down and Internet Explorer posts a screen saying that this site cannot be displayed. ....and, this is a site that I would like very much to open, to see what they have available, and make a copy or two. F. Richard Burt ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Jerusalem From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:26:08 -0600   Hello, Beau, et al: You wrote about the public domain site: > I use this resource all the time. If you're > having trouble, try simply going to > > http://www.cpdl.org > > That should work just fine. Can't connect and display there either. I will close down and restart my computer to reset everything locally, then try again. F. Richard Burt ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Jerusalem From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:30:34 -0600   Hello, Mura, et al: > >http://www.cpdl.org didn't work for me ... > > > But this one did: http://www.mutopiaproject.org/ >   BINGO !!! ...got it. Thanks, F. Richard Burt ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Bench Fees From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:53:07 -0500   On 1/16/04 7:07 PM, "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> wrote:   > 6. If a bride desires a retired minister to perform the ceremony (the > regular pastor is not needed), should the pastor receive a fee even thoug= h > he's not attending?   In such a case (like the retired guy is the bride's grandfather or whatever), the bride asks the pastor to invite Granddad to do the ceremony. And Granddad can "accept" such an invitation ONLY from the pastor, not from his granddaughter, etc. The pastor should be man enough to accede to bride's wishes, and invite the old man, warmly and graciously. Pastor is paid an annual salary, which includes conducting weddings for members of th= e parish. Therefore he should in no case get money from bride and groom, whether he conducts the service or not. Granddad, now doing part of pastor's job, should be offered (by pastor, personally) a nice honorarium for his services on the pastor's behalf. Granddad should be man enough to REJECT such a payment, because he presumably sees his service as a gift to the bride. Bride and groom should buy a very nice icon, crucifix, or whatever as a gift to pastor (who was a nice guy), AND for Granddad (who wa= s ALSO a nice guy). =20   If neither bride nor groom IS a member, none of the above applies. They should simply go to his/her/their own church, and then go to the top of thi= s page. If neither HAS a home church, they should get one, and THEN go to th= e top of this page. If they don=B9t want to do that, look up City Hall in the phone book. =20   Alan        
(back) Subject: Re: Bench Fees From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:23:10 -0500   Charlie, you say it so RIGHT--and so graciously, besides!   On 1/16/04 8:21 PM, "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> wrote:   > This just happened to me, but only was indirectly the pastor's fault. He = had > called me last weekend to play a funeral tomorrow. Then when I saw him > Wednesday he said that I wouldn't be needed because the mortuary was = sending > over a "keyboard player" that was included as part of the package = offered the > family.   That's just ONE reason why pastor should have been at the mortuary when = that muddled organization was shamelessly "offering" a gig for THEIR "lackey." At YOUR expense! Pastor presumably knows his way around this May Pole, = and could serve the family big time by BEING there and quashing such a stunt. ("We don't NEED a keyboard, OR a person to play it; we are a church; we = have an organ AND an organist. WE pay him! Do not bill these folks for = services that they don't NEED!") > > Immediately my hackles rose and I quickly moved in to mark my territory. > "Well, they're not going to use the Casavant are they?" (Actually I do = have a > good reason for this - console problems, some of which caused by people = who > don't know how to set pistons on a Casavant console). He said, "No, = he'll be > bringing his own keyboard." > > Lovely.   You are SO RIGHT! > > I said, "Well, theoretically, since I am the organist, any music-related > duties shoooould be offered me first -- if I -am- able to play and = someone > else is brought in, there should be a bench fee. Unless I can't do the > service." > > He looked at me like I announced that I had just flown in on a spaceship = from > Mars! "Bench Fee?!" > > I said, "Yes, it's perfectly reasonable to be to be expected to be = retained - > and paid - to do the job I was hired to do. When someone goes to a nice > restaurant for dinner, would they presume to bring in their own chef? If = they > go to the hospital to have their appendix removed, would they hire their = own > surgeon?" > > He got the point. Don't get me wrong. The pastor is a very dear man and = did > not do this deliberately or maliciously; he just didn't "think it = through." > Part of the problem in my situation is that there was NO organist in = this > church for more than two years. They're finding that having someone = there now > is taking some getting accustomed to. > I hear ya. You're very right, and you're being very "nice" about it.   Alan, hoping that pastor doesn't recommend THAT mortuary in the next = decade (and who also thinks you talk like a Lutheran!)    
(back) Subject: Re: Emma Ashford piece From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 16:26:54 -0500   On 1/16/04 8:51 PM, "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> wrote:   > Mans did not use a score -- he recreated an earlier recording made by = Feike > Asma. Ashford was born in Delaware in 1950, died in Nashville in 1930.   Stephen: HOW can I resist remarking that that's a very short lifetime?   Alan (sorry--but not sorry enough to delete this)    
(back) Subject: Re: Emma Ashford piece From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 15:44:08 -0600   What a negative life! Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     > > > Mans did not use a score -- he recreated an earlier recording made by > Feike > > Asma. Ashford was born in Delaware in 1950, died in Nashville in > 1930.      
(back) Subject: Re: Bench Fees From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 17:37:06 -0500   On 1/16/04 9:55 PM, "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> wrote (quoting Keith Zimmeraman, obviously):   >> 4. If this had nothing to do with the organist's salary, is there somet= hing >> WRONG with wanting a different organist than the resident organist to pl= ay >> for a particular ceremony? >=20 I=B9m venturing to reply, No. But if the titulaire is available for the job (which=8Bbarring an emergency=8Bhe should be), you should be ready to deal with the complexities that may be involved. Both M. le Titulaire and M. Different must be kept happy, economically. It=B9s hardly the =B3wanter=B9s=B2 place to eject M. le Titulaire from his bench!   Alan          
(back) Subject: Re: bench fees From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:17:40 -0500   On 1/16/04 11:28 PM, "RVScara@aol.com" <RVScara@aol.com> wrote:   > To put my situation into perspective, I am not on salary and have no cont= ract. > I donate my services which in the past 25 years would total (AGO standard= s) a > half million dollars. I average 4 services a weekend, often all 5, also H= oly > Days and special services, and I used to direct the adult choir until it= wore > me out. (A friend now does it and I accompany.) >=20 > =A7=A7=A7 RVS: I think I have to call your case pretty special and exceptional= .. > But not extremely unusual; there are others like you. And they merit imm= ense > gratitude from many congregations. That being said, I=B9m not persuaded th= at > you=B9re doing the parish as big a favor as you might want to do. I think > you=B9ve lured them into a sense of unreality. You alluded to your own eve= ntual > mortality. But, even short of that, there will come the time when you ca= n=B9t > DO the job any more. Should the parish budget then be =B3shocked=B2 into rea= lity > the existence of which you have =B3denied=B2 all these years? In general, I=B9= d > encourage people like you to expect, and receive, a full salary. (And pa= y > taxes on it, of course.) And then=8Bif you wish=8Buse the money (or 90% or 1= 15% > of it) to buy a new Bassoon stop, and/or nice shelving for the choir musi= c, or > whatever. =20 >=20 > I negotiated the purchase of our organ at cost (saving $40,000) in 1986 a= nd a > recent digital rebuild at quite a savings. Do I think it is "my organ?" > Not really, but I think I have more than paid for it. I don't like to = hear > that I am "doing someone out of a paying job" by playing for nothing. >=20 > =A7=A7=A7 No; by no means. You are not. >=20 > If anyone, it would be myself and I choose not to take the money. >=20 > =A7=A7=A7 Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: Wanted: Music Critiques! (a little bit off topic...) From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:40:19 -0500   I believe the Scorch (Sibelius plugin for browsers) is free to download = and use.   Ross Coulson "Cole" Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA   >a Scorch file >(the Sibelius web format)      
(back) Subject: RE: Prostitutes??? From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:55:07 -0500   It IS good, Jeff. It offers up the opportunity to witness to the love of God in Jesus Christ to those who may not ever have had that experience before but hopefully will have it in the future. It is the planting of a seed, and we surely know that parable by heart.   I am one who has moved from an exclusive to an inclusive view. You cannot minister to people by keeping them out; you must at least invite them in = in the name of Christ.   Ross Coulson "Cole" Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA   Jeff wrote: >Think about this though....if an unchurched couple gets married in the = eyes >of the Lord in a church, isn't that at least good that they got IN there = in >the first place? Just something to chew on... > >Jeff :)      
(back) Subject: Re: WEdding Fees From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:14:31 -0500   On 1/17/04 12:36 AM, "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> wrote:   > Alan said: "Why would anyone want to get married in somebody ELSE=8Fs churc= h. Go > for you own, or forget it!" >=20 > Well, Alan, I can think of a number of reasons. In our community, a numb= er of > churches have rather small sanctuaries, and our church ends up "hosting,"= if > you will, weddings that are too large for the home church. We do the same= for > funerals that are too large for churches or the local mortuary. Should w= e not > be gracious with these folks?   Absolutely. And I totally agree. And "hosting" is a good word for it. I've had that circumstance in my own pastoral ministry. In one parish, I had a very small church. My ORGANIST was to be married. Her organ teacher was at a much grander (reasonably nearby) church (of our denomination, whic= h was a convenient "plus"). She proposed that we "use" that church. I was delighted to request that favor from the "big" church. The favor was immediately granted. You're right. Perfectly excellent example of an exception--of which there might be many. (And thus, taken literally, I was WRONG. And it wasn't the first time; nor will it be the last.) >=20 > And what about unchurched folk who want to get married? I would rather h= elp > them than put stumbling blocks in front of them by saying, "Sorry, you're > not one of us. You're not welcome here. Go find your own place to get > married." Doesn't sound like Christian compassion to me.   No, it doesn't sound "compassionate" at all. But it does sound like reality. (Maybe even "Christianity," which has no business being wishy-washy.) Of course we want to say "You ARE welcome here! Where have you BEEN these past 20 years? Now let's take a fresh new start!" Is the job of a Christian pastor to speak the truth? Or to pretend that something less than the truth is "well, good enough"? >=20 > And in some states, few people are authorized to celebrate marriage. One= of > my prior ministries was in a state where ONLY ministers and judges could > celebrate marriage. The county where my church was located had a populat= ion > of 60,000 and a total of three judges--two of whom refused to do weddings= .. > Agreed, that's not "the church's problem," but we could be--and were--par= t > of the solution.   Well, you're right again. I, too, was a pastor, for eight years, in such a state. Actually, it HAD BEEN such a state (Maryland) until c. 1965; but people would arrive at my front door and hand me a marriage license and say "Marry us." And I'd say something like "You've got to be KIDDING!" (I didn't know the HISTORY of this stuff.) But it just doesn't work that way.   Anyway, I don't think such states exist any more. That was 1967! But even if they do, I think that's the state's problem, not mine, and I'd no sooner do such a wedding now than I did than--which was zero. State doesn't determine church policy. In this country, anyway. >=20 > I never turn down a wedding unless my calendar is simply too full; if a c= ouple > want to get married, they will, whether I help them or hinder them.   True. And so your pastoral responsibility is . . . . ?   > I do exercise a good bit of control over a service in the church (but eve= n > then, my feeling is it's their wedding,   It may be a small thing, but I don't agree. I'd say it's (like ANY liturgy= ) the church's wedding "of these people." But I am probably positively mediaeval about that.   > and I will accommodate as much as is possible). And I'll do weddings oth= er > places--religious or civil. After all, weddings are essentially the one = place > in the USA where clergy persons still act as agents of the government (as= well > as of the church ). >=20 > As for paying the musicians, my church--like thousands of others--has sev= eral > "internal" member musicians, but we do not pay any of them. Naturally, an= ybody > who uses their services expects to pay them--and does. The church does no= t > negotiate the fee; I tell couples they can find whom they want, including > those who are members, and give suggested ranges of payment.   Well, OK. But I think that's a BIT unfortunate. I'd like to think that (1= ) a church would PAY its musician(s), whether internal or external, and that (2) a church should be able to offer its members a fairly total ministry. In the case of a wedding, that would certainly include an ordained clergyperson and a totally qualified musician. I don't think of musicians (organists!) as peripheral or optional or "go find yer own"! "We GOT one! And we pay him/her to do his/her JOB!"   > But if a couple wants Great Aunt Bertha to play for their wedding (even i= f > she's awful!), it's their wedding and their great aunt! I won't stand in > their way. Nor will I stand in the way of the couple wanting Great Uncle > Henry, their preacher-relative from performing the ceremony.   Nor would I! I totally agree with you on both Bertha and Henry.   > I've got plenty of other things to do with my time anyway.   Yes indeed you do, Dennis. And yet, even though I firmly agree with you about Henry, DOING weddings IS part of what you've been called (by that congregation) to DO, isn't it?   > Weddings take horrendous amounts of time, and if I figure my average > honorarium, I make about $3/hour! >=20 Ain't that pathetic? And yet, I'm still agreeing with you.   Alan (not close to Dennis in views, but not TERRIBLY far apart either, he thinks)    
(back) Subject: RE: Bench Fees From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:17:04 -0600   Certainly a quaint bit of reasoning but you obviously fail to understand, it's the bride's day and the church exists solely for her storybook event! Commitment? Community?? Responsibility??? She's special dontcha know.   Or so I've been told by more than one clergy-ite.   michael - who avoids weddings like the plague       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of = Alan Freed Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 2:53 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Bench Fees     On 1/16/04 7:07 PM, "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> wrote:   > 6. If a bride desires a retired minister to perform the ceremony (the > regular pastor is not needed), should the pastor receive a fee even = though > he's not attending?   In such a case (like the retired guy is the bride's grandfather or whatever), the bride asks the pastor to invite Granddad to do the = ceremony. And Granddad can "accept" such an invitation ONLY from the pastor, not = from his granddaughter, etc. The pastor should be man enough to accede to bride's wishes, and invite the old man, warmly and graciously. Pastor is paid an annual salary, which includes conducting weddings for members of = the parish. Therefore he should in no case get money from bride and groom, whether he conducts the service or not. Granddad, now doing part of pastor's job, should be offered (by pastor, personally) a nice honorarium for his services on the pastor's behalf. Granddad should be man enough to REJECT such a payment, because he presumably sees his service as a gift to the bride. Bride and groom should buy a very nice icon, crucifix, or whatever as a gift to pastor (who was a nice guy), AND for Granddad (who = was ALSO a nice guy).   If neither bride nor groom IS a member, none of the above applies. They should simply go to his/her/their own church, and then go to the top of = this page. If neither HAS a home church, they should get one, and THEN go to = the top of this page. If they don=92t want to do that, look up City Hall in = the phone book.   Alan      
(back) Subject: Prostitution From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:17:42 -0500   Much too busy tonight (tho I I wish I weren't) to get into this right now, but those who have such prurient minds as to worry about my use of the term =B3prostitution=B2 should consider a dictionary definition of the term: =B3The act of offering or devoting one=B9s talents to an unworthy use or cause=B2 (Am. Her.); or (for =B3prostitute=B2) =B3a person (as a writer or painter) debases himself or his talents (as for money)    
(back) Subject: The Bride's Day!! From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:32:01 -0500   On 1/18/04 7:17 PM, "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> wrote:   > Certainly a quaint bit of reasoning but you obviously fail to = understand, > it's the bride's day and the church exists solely for her storybook = event! > Commitment? Community?? Responsibility??? She's special dontcha know. > > Or so I've been told by more than one clergy-ite. > Michael David! Thank you very much! You are a churchman!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: bench fees From: <RVScara@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:51:45 EST   Alan........... the church budget is no problem;the money is there. They =   have offered to pay me very well. I don't want the salary as it puts me = in a higher tax bracket and it would cost me even if I donated it back. What's = the purpose? If I need anything, music wise, I just say so and I get it. = Several years ago, when ill, I wanted to resign and I asked them to hire a replacement and they had no problem in paying someone; they advertised and = interviewed and could not get someone for the job. It's an every Sat nite and Sun = morn all year round, and one choir with one rehearsal a week, Sept thru Jun. Lent = and Advent mid-week services, several Holy Days, annual 4-day Retreat program = and a few more misc events. Not a full-time job, just a busy part-time one, apparently not to the liking of those they interviewed. Maybe the = 3-manual, 72 stop, 98 independent "rank" Walker digital turned them off. If so, "Sorry =   'bout that"....not really! I'm here to stay for now.    
(back) Subject: Re: bench fees From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 21:32:11 -0500   I'd be interested in finding out how much they were offereing and the = location... a lot of times that makes all the difference in the world -- = while it is part time -- every Saturday and Sunday (you didn't mention = vacation time or time off in any way) could also be a deciding factor -- = this sounds a lot like a Catholic Church is it? =20   Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes (substitute)(4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/98 = Ruffati/Wicks/Rodgers) CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/Dairyland-ATOS/AGO ----- Original Message -----=20 From: RVScara@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 8:51 PM Subject: Re: bench fees     Alan........... the church budget is no problem;the money is there. = They have offered to pay me very well. I don't want the salary as it = puts me in a higher tax bracket and it would cost me even if I donated = it back. What's the purpose? If I need anything, music wise, I just say = so and I get it. Several years ago, when ill, I wanted to resign and I = asked them to hire a replacement and they had no problem in paying = someone; they advertised and interviewed and could not get someone for = the job. It's an every Sat nite and Sun morn all year round, and one = choir with one rehearsal a week, Sept thru Jun. Lent and Advent = mid-week services, several Holy Days, annual 4-day Retreat program and a = few more misc events. Not a full-time job, just a busy part-time one, = apparently not to the liking of those they interviewed. Maybe the = 3-manual, 72 stop, 98 independent "rank" Walker digital turned them off. = If so, "Sorry 'bout that"....not really! I'm here to stay for now.  
(back) Subject: Re: Jerusalem From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 20:51:38 -0600   Hi! I hate that the site is aparrently down. Like I said, I use the resourcce all the time. I used for copies of the Arcadelt Ave Maria for this past advent and I am using it for scores of the Schubert Mass in G which we are performing at my church this upcoming May. There are OODLES of things on it- tons of stuff I've never heard of and lots of familiar things as well. There are also new original compositions and links to sites with hymn reharmonizations and organ pieces.     Blessings, Beau Surratt Minister of Worship and Music United Church of Hyde Park, Chicago      
(back) Subject: I Guess I'm an Old Timer, Now From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 23:07:32 EST   I was figuring it out today: I have been playing hymns for 38 years!! Sheesh, I'm not sure I'm ready for that realization yet (hehe).   What got me thinking about it was a couple misfires in our processional = hymn today, The Church's One Foundation (my favorite). The Choir barrelled on completely oblivious to my attempt to stretch the tempo of the final = stanza. Just as I was about to get my left hand up to rein in the troops, the rector decided to snap his fingers to neither MY tempo or theirs. O well, all in = a day's work.   However, having perused another list online last night before bed, I took = the advice in some posts to slow down the tempo to "Lift Every Voice and = Sing". It takes on a wholly different character than I had previously played, and =   thus, I think, more meaningful (hopefully). What a GREAT hymn!   Anyway, we are coming out of the deep freeze here at the Jersey Shore, for =   which I'm grateful.   Peace to you all. Have a great week. Neil B.    
(back) Subject: Weitz Grand Choeur From: "Beau Surratt" <Beau.Surratt@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jan 2004 22:48:41 -0600   Hi! First of all, I'd like to thank everyone who pointed me toward a place to find a copy of the Wesley Choral Song and Fugue.   Now for my next repertoire search....   I'm looking for Guy Weitz's "Grand Choeur" I have Fred Swann's recording of it on the organ at First Congo LA. Since it is based on plainsong, I thought it'd be great as an opener for my Junior Recital as much of the music I will be performing is based on chant.   Musicroom.com says that it is printed to order and ships in 7-10 days.   Does anyone know of another place to obtain it?   Or....could someone fax me a copy knowing full well that I have ordered a copy (if that's legal)   Or...if its not under copyright could someone just fax me a copy.   Thanks for all your ever-present help!     Blessings, Beau Surratt Minister of Worship and Music United Church of Hyde Park, Chicago