PipeChat Digest #4233 - Monday, January 19, 2004 Louis Vierne's "Les Cathedrales". by "bobelms" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Charlie's funeral organist by <RMB10@aol.com> Vicar of Dibley by "bobelms" <email@example.com> RE: Louis Vierne's "Les Cathedrales". by "Michael David" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Vicar of Dibley by <DERREINETOR@aol.com> RE: Prostitutes??? by "John Vanderlee" <email@example.com> Re: The Bride's Day!! by <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Re: bench fees by "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Vierne's Pieces de Fantaisie - Latry's corrections to scores by "William T. Van Pelt" <email@example.com> Re: Pastors - do they get paid for weddings? by "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: The Mortuary Keyboard Player by "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> Clergy Wedding Fees -- a "retraction" if you will by "Charlie Lester" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: About the Dubois by "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> Re: bench fees by "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Charlie's funeral organist by "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> [LONG] Favorite composers, favorite performers, and odometer readings by "Glenda" <firstname.lastname@example.org> RE: Pr__titutes??? by "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com> Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing by "Charlie Lester" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Louis Vierne's "Les Cathedrales". From: "bobelms" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 20:56:41 +0800 Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of a CD with the piece - "Les Cathedrales" by Louis Vierne? Thank you, Bob Elms.
(back) Subject: Re: Charlie's funeral organist From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 07:58:09 EST Regarding Charlie's funeral organist..... Well at least at my funeral home, if the pastor of the church tells us = that the regular organist isn't available to play, the next question is usually = if my boss will let me play for the service. 9 times out of 10, I am going = to be on the funeral anyway, so I play for the service and only help at the cemetery, letting my boss and our other staff seat the family and do all = the other miscellaneous duties beforehand. However, we never make any presumptive = offer that I will play a service just because there happens to be an organist on = staff--who also is a funeral director. At the other funeral home where I = used to work, I always asked the pastor if their regular musician would be = available or should I try to help them locate someone to play, if necessary. = Musicians, by way of how the Federal Trade Commision structures things, are not part = of a funeral package, they are purely "Third Party" cash advance items, just as = an obituary is, so the whole situation to me seems rather fishy. It sounds = as if some pushy funeral director just told the family "we'll take care of everything" and then told the pastor that they had a musician who would = play. What really gets my ire up, though, is that he played an instrument that didn't = belong to the church--it belonged to another church who uses that church = building. That would have been really good if something happened to it. I would = stay away from that funeral home--and I'm speaking as a funeral director! Now as to Charlie's funny comment about playing Hammond and then getting comments.....I'm a white organist who plays in a predominantly = upper-upper-middle class African-American church. I get the same kind of comments, too. It boggles their minds at how I can go from playing some big Classical piece = on the pipe organ, hop on to the Hammond, play some Gospel thing in proper style = not bat an eye. Several years ago, I played for the National Baptist = Convention's assembly that was held here in Charlotte. Over 60,000 church leaders from = African-American churches were here from all over the country--we had = assembled a 450 voice choir from area churches all over the area, and I was one of two = organists/pianists that played for the opening service. A local minister = of music came up to me after the service and told me that I was going to wake = up one day and find out that I was Black, because no White guy should be able to play classical music on the organ, then slide onto the piano bench and = play Black Gospel music in proper style. LOL At church, they've decided that I am either just very light skinned and hiding the fact I'm Black or that I'm = Creole. I just tell them that it's because I like soul food--that it helps me play = the right way. Truthfully, it's having a congregation that APPRECIATES = and UNDERSTANDS both styles of music and proper instruments (pipe organ and = Hammond) to work with. Monty Bennett Friendship Baptist Church Charlotte, NC
(back) Subject: Vicar of Dibley From: "bobelms" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 21:00:03 +0800 My Church choir is practising the version of Psalm 23 that was the signature tune of The Vicar of Dibley. One of our ministers is female and rather rotund, could pass for the Vicar herself. I have a fiendish desire to have the choir sing this anthem when she is preaching in our church. Hey Bob! This is very offtopic! Back in your dugout! Bob Elms.
(back) Subject: RE: Louis Vierne's "Les Cathedrales". From: "Michael David" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:18:35 -0600 Any recording of the 24 Pieces de fantasie will have it. Ben Van Osten on MD+G is a good one that springs to mind. -----Original Message----- From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of bobelms Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 6:57 AM To: email@example.com Subject: Louis Vierne's "Les Cathedrales". Does anyone know where I can obtain a copy of a CD with the piece - "Les Cathedrales" by Louis Vierne?
(back) Subject: Re: Vicar of Dibley From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:24:29 EST Bob, If I were the rotund Vicar, I'd be flattered to be compared to Dawn = French. It was Dawn French, wasn't it, who played in the "Vicar of Dibley"? Bill H.
(back) Subject: RE: Prostitutes??? From: "John Vanderlee" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:21:16 -0800 People .... Please change the subject line. My computer sees it as "Spam " and dumps it as undesirable. Thanks .. John V
(back) Subject: Re: The Bride's Day!! From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:43:44 EST Folks, I always thought it was the "Mother of the Bride's Day"! At least that has = been my experience on MANY occasions. Cheers (and a wink), Bill H.
(back) Subject: Re: bench fees From: "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:49:36 -0500 On 1/18/04 8:51 PM, "RVScara@aol.com" <RVScara@aol.com> wrote: > the church budget is no problem;the money is there. They have offered to= pay > me very well. I don't want the salary as it puts me in a higher tax brac= ket > and it would cost me even if I donated it back. What's the purpose? Well, RVS, I think you=B9ve covered all my objections. So I=B9d better surrender, and just say that you and that parish are a great match, each blessed by the presence of the other. My best to you! Alan
(back) Subject: Vierne's Pieces de Fantaisie - Latry's corrections to scores From: "William T. Van Pelt" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:15:19 -0500 As Mark Quarmby wrote on Saturday, Latry's corrections to the Vierne Piec= es de Fantaisie were printed in The Tracker 38:2 1994, as copied (with permission) from the Sydney Organ Journal. In that same issue of The Tracker, we featured on the cover a photograph of the exterior of Notre D= ame Cathedral in Paris, and I wrote a guest editorial, "Adjustable Hysteresis= in Paris," regarding the collapse of the innovative computer system that was intended to control the organ in ways that boggled the mind (and, as it happened, the computer), rendering the organ useless for longer than a ye= ar. The issue also includes an article by Pastor de Lasala and Ralph W. Lane, "Evolution of the Grand Organ in Notre-Dame de Paris," with fascinating information dating from 1322 to the painstaking renovation and complex control system (that failed) of 1992. Also included is a related article = by Robert Wagner, "Registration Practice in France after 1920: Its developme= nt realted to the aspect of fantasy in the 24 Pieces de Fataisie of Louis Vierne". Back issues of The Tracker (including 38:2) are available from OHS for $5 plus $3.50 shipping per entire order for domestic delivery). Alas, they cannot be ordered from the OHS webstore, but may be ordered or added to a= n order by telephone to 804-353-9226 or FAX to 804-353-9266, or e-mail to email@example.com Bill Van Pelt Subject: Vierne's Pieces de Fantaisie - corrections to scores From: "Mark Quarmby" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2004 22:33:34 +1100 Today I started my summer clean-up and came across a copy of the April/Ma= y 1993 "Sydney Organ Journal" in which we published the textural correction= s to the "Pi=E8ces de fantaisie" of Vierne as researched and supplied by Ol= ivier Latry after one of his visits to Sydney. He had recently recorded the complete "Fantasy Pieces" and during a masterclass in Sydney was correcti= ng our scores. We encouraged him to document them all and we published them = not long after. I believe "The Tracker"(OHS - USA) and possibly "The Organist= s' Review" (UK) sought permission from us to reprint them. As this was nearl= y 11 years ago, there may be many organists out there who missed these publications and would love to have a copy of the corrections.
(back) Subject: Re: Pastors - do they get paid for weddings? From: "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:15:51 -0500 On 1/19/04 12:27 AM, "Charlie Lester" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > Alan Freed said, >=20 > =3D-> Pastor is paid an annual salary, which includes conducting weddings f= or > members of the parish. <-=3D >=20 > Well, that may be true in SOME parishes (yours?) Absolutely. And every one I=B9ve ever served, and every one I know of nowadays. > but in none of any of the ones I have played for or belonged to or known = of. > The pastor's services for weddings, funerals and funerals are considered > "above and beyond the call of duty" just as they are for the organist and > other staff. I'm surprised to hear you say that, Charlie. It seems to me that you're describing conditions that antedate the Great Depression--when you weren't around!--or in small rural denominations that would not be called mainstream. The fat three-volume Encyclopedia of the Lutheran Church (1965= ) has a longish article on the subject (but mostly very historical); at the end it says, "Congregations increasingly recognize that the pastor is calle= d to render full service and is to be compensated by the congregation for suc= h service." =20 I think I know what is meant by "full service," but I'd rather phone the bishops office and get the straight poop. But it's a holiday, so I'll do i= t in the morning (Tuesday). >=20 > The only services that the Pastor generally does as a part of his ministr= y are > visitations, house-blessings, etc., and, in some cases, counseling - eith= er > premarital or otherwise. The pastor in one of my churches has a double de= gree > in divinity and family counseling and he does offer the latter service as= part > of his ministry. But he certainly is not OBLIGED to do so, Agreed on that. Unless that specialty is included in his Letter of Call (and sometimes it is). > any more than he is OBLIGED to offer his services for weddings and funera= ls. Well, if he's been called to "full service" (in, to, and for that congregation) and has ACCEPTED that call, then I'd say he's obliged HIMSELF to render same. Now, what "standard" or "full service" is, is not yet defined in our conversation; but I'll hope to have that tomorrow. It's bee= n DECADES since I received a letter of call, and accepted it, but it seems to me that the language was something like "preach the word faithfully, in season and out; administer the sacraments and other rites in accordance wit= h the doctrine and practice of the Evangelical Lutheran Church, teach the young, visit the sick, console the bereaved, seek out the unchurched," etc.= , etc. =20 >=20 > Again ... Somewhere, in some old book I've read parts of, I remember seei= ng > the phrase "A worker is worthy of his hire." I really just don't get the = idea > that church staff are expected to work for nothing, or that every service= they > offer should be included under the general umbrella of their salary. > Especially given the meager salary that most churches offer. >=20 Oh, absoLUTEly! I'm in favor of very decent pay for a pastor. And nowaday= s (for at least 30 years), that's been improving remarkably. Speaking ELCA talk, a congregation does not send a call DIRECTLY to a wanted pastor, but to the bishop=B9s office, from which it is FORWARDED to the candidate. That congregation has been TOLD what to write in that letter, including the =B3compensation=B2 paragraphs on page 3. If they don=B9t comply, the bishop is likely to send it right back to the congregation for =B3enhancement.=B2 What I think you=B9re suggesting is that the Letter of Call is saying, at least very implicitly, is: =B3We expect you to work 85% of a full week=B9s work, and we=B9ll pay you 85% of a proper salary. You go out and do freelanc= e ministry, and get what you can for it.=B2 Is that the kind of professional pastoral ministry you want your pastor to do? An Ozark =B3Marryin=B9 Sam=B2 or =B3Buryin=B9 Sam=B2 ministry? Yes, it used to BE that way (even in Minnesota Lutherland), and I hope I=B9m not denigrating those times or their necessities. But (in mainstream denominations now) it=B9s no longer that way, and hasn=B9t been, for a good while. More tomorrow. Alan
(back) Subject: Re: The Mortuary Keyboard Player From: "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:33:22 -0500 On 1/19/04 12:41 AM, "Charlie Lester" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > politically incorrect questions about my bloodline ....... boy, if the = shoe > were on the other foot ....... !! but I digress......... > > The whole thing kinda stinks if you ask me. Boy, are YOU ever right! Thoroughly LOVED the follow-up report. And now pastor can't even look you in the eye! Alan
(back) Subject: Clergy Wedding Fees -- a "retraction" if you will From: "Charlie Lester" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:35:29 -0800 I heard privately from an Episcopalian friend that in that denomination, clergy are not paid by the church to perform weddings and funerals. The person who told me about this said that the rector at his church explained that in the Episcopal Church, marriage is one of the church's sacraments, and priests are not supposed to (or allowed to, in his thinking) to charge a fee or accept money for the administration of a sacrament. It's just that simple. However, if the wedding couple would still like to do *something* for the priest, they are free to contribute to the church priests' discretionary fund. I, not being from the Episcopal / Anglican / Catholic tradition, did not know this. I was raised Southern Baptist and most of my church jobs have been in Methodist churches, although I have been a "Surrogate Lutheran" for almost 15 years now --- and I will say that AFAIK the Lutheran Church, both ELCA and LCMS --- at least, the ones I have been affiliated with (trying like mad to cover my a## with disclaimers!), does not have this same policy. Yes, the church does recognize marriage as a sacrament but I do not believe it's considered the pastor's "bounden duty" to conduct marriage ceremonies as part of his ministry. "Live and Learn." ~ C
(back) Subject: Re: About the Dubois From: "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:37:03 -0500 On 1/19/04 12:49 AM, "Charlie Lester" <email@example.com> wrote: > Is that being hypocritical, and double-standard'ed of me - vis-a-vis my > earlier comments about hiring organists and pastors? I don't think so. = This is > a different situation, more like a "Little Theatre" presentation = inasmuch as > it's going to be performed by a massed choir and at a not-for-income = program > and not a church function per se. Lest you wonder, I agree with you totally. TOTALLY different situation. Alan
(back) Subject: Re: bench fees From: "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:46:22 -0500 On 1/19/04 1:58 AM, "Wdh2@aol.com" <Wdh2@aol.com> wrote: > Until we have prevailed upon church administrations to understand that > inasmuch as no minister would be allowed to mount the pulpit of a church > without the authorization of the pastor or rector of that church, so shou= ld no > outside guest, "cheaper", 'friend of the bride" Warren, you write very solid stuff! Thank you! And three cheers for you and for your congregation=B9s good sense. Alan
(back) Subject: Re: Charlie's funeral organist From: "Alan Freed" <email@example.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:52:50 -0500 On 1/19/04 7:58 AM, "RMB10@aol.com" <RMB10@aol.com> wrote: > Regarding Charlie's funeral organist..... > Well at least at my funeral home, if the pastor of the church tells us = that > the regular organist isn't available to play, the next question is = usually if > my boss will let me play for the service. > Monty: Loved your post. Admire your abilities, and your wit. And obviously agree very much! Alan
(back) Subject: [LONG] Favorite composers, favorite performers, and odometer readings From: "Glenda" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 11:50:14 -0600 Ever since just before Christmas I have thought about my own "favorites" lists, like the "top 5/10" that Travel Channel and David Letterman do. Except that my focus has been on organ music. Why, do you ask? Do I have nothing better to do? I don't know - my plate is pretty full, even without an organ job. But the longer I'm away from a console, the more regrets I have about not being exposed to the organ and organ lessons as a child, and the more I miss the organ and wish for the ability to play certain music. And some of that music sneaks up on me unawares and smacks me. Like Franck's "Priere", for example. I swear that I first heard it live at St. Bart's at the hands of Tom Murray, but the program notes belie that memory. But I remember coming home and looking for the book and listening to a recording because it moved me so much. Then I said, "I must be mistaken," and never thought about it again, even when I would hear subsequent recordings. It's funny, but you don't hear the "Priere" much in recital. My life went on, until one day when I found Richard Elliott's recording at the Mormon Tabernacle, which included - well, you guessed it. I was again (oh, but maybe it was first love - who knows?) smitten, and actually went to the church and played through it. I was proud to play over seventy per cent of it without missing notes and screaming in frustration, although that F# business is something I'd like to have a talk with Cesar about. How did I get off the subject? No matter. Today I drove to Pensacola to Christ Church to hear one of my favorite performers, Todd Wilson, one that I flew to Salt Lake City to hear, so I guess he takes the cake. I was to go to church that morning to hear the rector preach, but when I got up the cat had thrown up all over the house and one of the house plants peed all over the hardwood floor. By the time I cleaned all that up, it was too late, so I finally dismantled the Christmas tree before heading to Pensacola on a glorious sunny and balmy day. Todd played: Toccata and Fugue in d minor (BWV 565) - J.S. Bach Voluntary in F - John Stanley Tuba Tune - C. S. Lang Concerto in F major, op. 4, no. 4 - G. F. Handel intermission Prelude on the Introit for Epiphany - Durufle Fugue on the Theme of the Soissons Carillon - Durufle Andante sostenuto - from Symphonique Gothique - Widor Two Preludes on American Hymn Tunes - George Shearing: There is a happy land I love thee, my Lord Variations on "America" - Ives It's amazing how one's tastes can change in just a few years. When I started playing organ, it was all baroque - Handel, Bach, Handel, some of the other English guys, Handel. My priest was Handel's biggest fan, so the organ concerti got marched out a lot in those days. When I attended my first AGO convention, I heard only one Bach and one Handel piece. The Bach was done by Jane Parker-Smith and blew me away, and the Handel was done by Cherry Rhodes and did not blow me away. Well, too much baroque burns out the brain's high-beams, and my taste for the French guys has blossomed. In fact, today all I wanted to hear was Wilson playing Durufle (I have listened to the Requiem and 4 motets all week), and didn't care if he accomplished it on a Casio keyboard. But he did a superb job on all, in understatedly conservative and crisp registrations. And all from memory, except for his little cheat sheets, which probably contained his registrational changes. I would not have chosen this program for Wilson, but it was varied and interesting. I was disappointed in the Durufle, but not because of the performer. There were just not the sounds on the organ to accommodate what I was used to hearing. I really wanted the Soissons to slap me around at the end. The Widor was utterly charming. And Wilson is too, the nicest guy you would want to meet. Two things I noticed about him - he talks a lot, and his last notes/chords are held for a LONG time. But everyone left feeling they had made a brand new friend in Todd. It was a great trip in all ways, even the champagne and prime rib afterward. I have decided that if I got a chance to live my life over, God forbid, I would start organ lessons at 12 when they were offered by my dad, but would study only Bach, Franck, Durufle, and Vierne (never mind how one would find a teacher to accomplish that in DeFuniak Springs). Once I gained proficiency on the larger works I would branch out to other composers, but I think there is so much to gather in and reflect upon just in those bodies of works. Listing favorite performers is a totally different matter. No performer is an island - each performance is an amalgam of the talent and skills, physical and mental health at the moment, and the instrument's capabilities and condition. Each recital is a unique organism. I have traveled as far as Pennsylvania and driven twice five hours one-way to hear Felix Hell. I think his 100th performance in Bethlehem in 2001 could not be beat, and he could do no wrong. I've not heard him exceed that performance. Todd Wilson's CD of Durufle and his performance of the Jongen with orchestra in Salt Lake City were tours de force - brilliant - and made today's recital seem anticlimactic. Seeing Peter Conte at the same 2001 convention in Pennsylvania and at the Wanamaker are etched in my mind, not so much for what he played but the sheer skill he displayed. I loved Richard Elliott in Salt Lake City, and have trouble hitting the "eject" button whenever I play his CD. Jane Parker-Smith I have seen only once, but I will never forget. Joyce Jones and Fred Swann were at their zenith at the New York City AGO convention. I have heard them many times since, but neither has done as well as my first experience hearing them. I've never heard Richard Morris live, but his two CDs I own could not be better. Our young up-and-coming stars have thrilled me - Chelsea Chen, for one. I could go on and on (many people have accused me of just that). But as a former client once said to me, "The mind is a terrible thing." So this critique on an organ recital was all about me. But the beauty of music is that sometimes it makes us reflect, analyze, even take corrective action. What a perfect time for resolutions. Happy new year and MLK holiday - furniture rearranging day for me. Glenda Sutton email@example.com
(back) Subject: RE: Pr__titutes??? From: "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 12:07:38 -0600 > People .... > > Please change the subject line. My computer sees it as "Spam " and > dumps it as undesirable. > > Thanks .. John V Ditto here. All of those posts are cluttering up my 'pr__titutes' folder. Stan :) ;)
(back) Subject: Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing From: "Charlie Lester" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 10:44:52 -0800 I, too, as Malcolm and others, have learned how to properly play "Lift Ev'ry Voice and Sing." In addition to singing it much more slowly than us "White Folks" tend to take it, at the end of the third verse, there are certain notes of the refrain that are held onto very long, creating a dramatic effect. It really is a very stirring song and I love hearing it sung by a big congregation. I've been serving a predominately African-American congregation for over 14 years, and this is sung annually at various Martin Luther King, Jr. commemorations as well as other occasions. Yesterday I played for an annual MLK Jr. service, the 14th that I have played for (this particular service has been held annually since 1982, rotating around various ELCA parishes in Southern California). This time it was in a big church in Glendale with a too-small M=F6ller that just didn't fill the large, resonant room. That church just cries for a big glorious organ but it probably will not be. That pastor, as so many others, is more keen on expensive audio-video systems and Kurzweil keyboards .... As in so many other churches, they now have a "blended" worship service. Funny, isn't it, how, in the "blending," most of the traditional is left out --- "blended worship" usually means 90% CCM with a few token "traditional bones" tossed out to the stubborn holdouts. Or, as in one of my parishes, the ratio is more like 99:1....... From what I gather, they have a "Linda Leftfoot" who plays and directs the choir. [I did note her Organmaster shoes conspicuously tucked away by the console!] The Rev. did allow as to how it was nice to hear the organ "really played." Whatever that means. But I digress. I have always opened the MLK service with a free improvisation on "Ein feste Burg" into which I interweave snippets of "We Shall Overcome" and other spirituals. The final movement of the improvisation is a toccata with fast-moving manual parts and the pedal playing the melody. It's quite dramatic. Then, the tenor of the service gets decidedly "amped up" as the New City Parish (*) Choir and their pianist shift into high gear. [* The New City Parish is a coalition of ELCA churches in the greater Los Angeles area.] It's always an incredibly moving service, probably too loud for most Proper Lutherans, but the good-old-folks who come along do eventually "hop on board" and, soon, begin toe-tapping to the beat. Or, more often, counter to the beat .... but, then ... at least they're making the effort. It's really cute to see little old blue-haired grannies awkwardly and self-consciously swaying and clapping - "getting into the groove!" The pastor, from Chicago, was VERY animated. First time I have seen a Lutheran pastor with long, Rastafarian-looking dreadlocks! .. . . btw The 1971 M=F6ller is actually a very lovely instrument, sounding rich and clear, not shrieky or boomy at all. Really a nice, full sound, just not anywhere nearly enough of it. It's about, hm, 16-17 ranks, with only three Pedal stops (bd-16, oct-8, chbs-4). Only one reed, a "Fagot" on the Swell. It does have an odd [all-drawknobs, no tiltings] console -- manual order is I-Great II-Swell III-Antiphonal [prepared for]. So the top manual does nothing, the middle is the Swell and bottom is the Great. Would make sense, I guess, if it was a Cavaille-Coll... ?! At first, I couldn't figger out why none of the stops were working --- "Is the whole damned thing 'prepared for?!'" Then my hand brushed the bottom keyboard while stops for the "Great" - presumably the middle keyboard - were drawn ... "Hullo!" Weird. ~ C