PipeChat Digest #4587 - Friday, July 2, 2004
 
Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Maintenance endowments
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Tewksebury Milton organ (was Saville Sovereign Console Available in K
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
RE: AGO LA
  by "v hatch" <vhatch@hotmail.com>
James Pethel help
  by "brade" <beveland@millsauto.com>
Re: Tewksebury Milton organ (was Saville Sovereign Console Available in K
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Re: Tewksebury Milton organ "Quaint Flute"
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: James Pethel help
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: James Pethel help
  by "brade" <beveland@millsauto.com>
Re: James Pethel help
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Fwd: Diapason sample
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Diapason sample
  by "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
Re: Diapason sample
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
Austin Specifications
  by <RJAYWILL@aol.com>
New mp3 upload
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:45:32 -0500   I always think it strange that John Milton was so much a Puritan and yet = so in love with organs and choirs. The organ he played is one of the few instruments from the early seventeenth century that has survived, and is = to be found in Tewkesbury Abbey, recently rebuilt by Kenneth Tickell. This = was originally the 1631 Thomas Dallam organ in Magdalen College, Oxford, = removed by Cromwell to Hampton Court Palace in 1654 for his own secular use (where it was played by Cromwell's friend Milton) and then returned to Magdalen = in 1660. It was moved to Tewkesbury when Magdalen bought a new Thomas Swarbrick organ in 1736. There are more details on the Tewkesbury Abbey website at http://www.tewkesburyabbey.org.uk/msg18.htm   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 7:46 PM Subject: RE: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville     Thank you, Merry - I was just last night trying to remember from which John Milton work that quote derived.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Merry Foxworth Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 2:15 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville   How about taking part of that money left in the will and set up an account for ongoing maintenance?     =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).        
(back) Subject: Maintenance endowments From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:52:45 EDT   A serious pipe organ builder will gladly sacrifice some stops in favor = of establishing a fund to maintain their work, just as they would strive to build a smaller organ of higher quality. Having been married to a Wills, Trusts, and Estates professor for a decade, I can pretty much assure you that any bequest for a pipe organ, = even if irrevocable, can sensibly be partitioned for the future care of the = instrument. Such action would be in the best interests of both the estate and the beneficiary. Organs that are far too large to maintain are usually NOT the fault of =   the organbuilder, since pipe organ craftsmen consider their opera to be = their offspring, and they will endeavor to protect their work from alteration, = poor care, or no care. The origins of gigantism usually can be traced back to the insistent organist.   Sebastian M. Gluck Tonal Director Gluck New York Pipe Organ Restorers and Builders http://www.glucknewyork.com/   ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Tewksebury Milton organ (was Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:00:16 -0500   On looking at the specification at http://www.tewkesburyabbey.org.uk/msg19.htm I see that it includes on the Pedal division a 10.2/3' Quaint Flute, and that there is a 5.1/3' = extension of this Quaint Flute as well. Does anyone know anything about the form of construction of this unusual stop?   John.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 8:45 AM Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville   > There are more details on the Tewkesbury Abbey > website at http://www.tewkesburyabbey.org.uk/msg18.htm      
(back) Subject: RE: AGO LA From: "v hatch" <vhatch@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 09:15:38 -0500   Thanks very much to everybody who helped me with the Los Angeles AGO convention thing. I am Norman Chapman and I play a Sovereign Saville in Second Church of Christ Scientest in Memphis. It's on the corner of Highland and Central, near the University. The man who works on this = organ for us is Bill Hellums of Hellums Organ Service in Memphis (actually he lives in Southhaven.) I can't talk intelligently about the physical = aspects of the organ, but I do know that we have, at least temporarily, just about =   given up on hoping that we can make the combination mechanism work. For a =   while notes on the great were sputtering , stuttering, but last week he clened something and that seems to have gotten rid of that problem, which had been hovering around for years, at least temporarily. The belief = seems to be that parts are pretty well unavailable. Here's another, vaguely related question: when someone wants to donate an organ (in this case a small one perhaps worth about 5000 or so) and wants some documentation regarding the tax benefit, is it up to the person donating to establish = the value of the organ, or is the church or other non-profit agency receiving the gift supposed to estimate or declare the value in their receipt?     >From: "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net> >Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: AGO LA >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:47:45 -0700 > > > >v hatch wrote: > >>When you say you are packing for Los Angeles , does that mean you are >>going to the AGO meetin July 4-8? I am going to that and I wonder if >>someone can tell me: how do people DRESS for this? In case I don't = have >>enough clothes, are there some SECOND HAND stores near the Westin >>Bonaventure Hotel on 404 S.Figueroa? I don't mean "vintage" stores--I >>mean dirt cheap---in San francisco right downtown there were some of the =   >>most incredibly cheap used clothing stores I have ever seen in my = life!!! > >Check out the local gay paper (Frontiers), available just about anywhere, =   >or the Damron Guide online ... there are all kinds of pre-owned clothing >boutiques ... I think most of them are in West Hollywood, but not all. = The >one that supports the AIDS Project has lots of high end-stuff. > >Ditto for restaurants ... "we" KNOW where the good cheap restaurants are >(chuckle). You'll be close to several ethnic restaurant rows. > >What are some good medium priced restaurants near that Westin >>Hotel? Is it true that it probably won't rain at all during the period >>July 2 to July 10? > >Rain? What's that? We get rain about 2x a year in SoCal, and the season = for >that is LONG past. > >I can't remember what kind of clothing a man should >>wear and not be considered disrespectful as we go into all those = different >>churches---- > >This is SoCal ... anything short of a thong is acceptable (grin) ... you >won't see LONG pants on the street (in San Diego, at least) except from >about December until March or April. It's likely to be VERY HOT and VERY >MUGGY in LA July 4-8, though it's cool enough for long pants some = evenings. >NOTHING short of a five-star restaurant requires a coat and tie; "dressy >business casual" will get you by for most places. I'd say slacks and a >sport shirt for the churches, unless it's REALLY hot ... I've seen people =   >at Mass in both our local cathedrals come straight from the beach >(chuckle). > >Oh incidentally I play on a Saville every >>Sunday--a three manual > >How often does it have to be TUNED? That was the biggest problem with >Savilles, as I recall. > >Cheers, > >Bud >> >>>From: Keys4bach@aol.com >>>Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> >>>To: pipechat@pipechat.org >>>Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville >>>Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:47:35 EDT >>> >>>In a message dated 6/30/2004 11:22:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, >>>ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com writes: >>> >>> > I'm not saying that E-Orgs can't go 40 or 50 years. They generally >>> > don't. >>> >>>i have a model 5 (?) Baldwin---built in 1956. >>> >>>still works everytime i turn it on. >>> >>>have not replaced a tube in quite some time. >>> >>>maybe they can last a while....... >>> >>>snickering as he heads to pack for LA >>> >>>dale in Florida >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar =96 get it now! >>http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ >> >>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >>List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >>List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >>List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >> >> > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> >List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >   _________________________________________________________________ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page =96 = FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/    
(back) Subject: James Pethel help From: "brade" <beveland@millsauto.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 09:24:26 -0500   I am looking for some biographical information on James Pethel for a = recital program. A google search did not yield very much. Does anyone = know of any other sources?
(back) Subject: Re: Tewksebury Milton organ (was Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville) From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:27:48 +0100   Yes, ................... But ...................   Have you heard (of) the GROVE Organ in the same institution http://www.tewkesburyabbey.org.uk/msg18.htm   Not overly ostentatious, even by Victorian standards, and an object lesson to other organ builders - as was acknowledged at the time.   Harry Grove [a.k.a. musicman]   PS .. Although I have had choirs perform in Tewkesbury, it is to my regret that they have not been able to perform with the Grove organ ... so far.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 3:00 PM Subject: Re: Tewksebury Milton organ (was Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville)     > On looking at the specification at > http://www.tewkesburyabbey.org.uk/msg19.htm I see that it includes on = the > Pedal division a 10.2/3' Quaint Flute, and that there is a 5.1/3' extension > of this Quaint Flute as well. Does anyone know anything about the form = of > construction of this unusual stop? > > John.      
(back) Subject: Re: Tewksebury Milton organ "Quaint Flute" From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:11:35 EDT   Without asking the builder, my presumptive thought is that it is a stoppered wooden set, the nomenclature almost assuredly being a nod toward = an archaic, one-off spelling of "quint." All Anglo-French derivations of "quaint" seem to point toward an adjective describing the unusual, the clever, the well-fashioned, or the = oddball. A linguistic stretch might point to the "clever" or "unusual" use of the = pitch for resultant harmonic purposes, but that seems to be a long shot. It is certainly not a Dallam leftover, either in its pitch or nomenclature. It may just be a quaint idea on the part of (one of) the succeeding builder(s).   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/   ..  
(back) Subject: Re: James Pethel help From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 08:36:06 -0700 (PDT)   Hi there Jim Pethel might still be on faculty at Carson Newman College in = Tennessee. He's a sweet man and you may be able to ring or email him. = There may be some info on the colleges Music Dept site. Are you doing some of his hymn arrangements?         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
(back) Subject: Re: James Pethel help From: "brade" <beveland@millsauto.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:43:17 -0500       Are you doing some of his hymn arrangements?     I'm performing an Aria written by him in memory of Paul McClellan. = Beautiful piece.
(back) Subject: Re: James Pethel help From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 11:47:14 EDT   James and Stan Pethel both compose beautiful arrangements on hymn tunes. They are published by Lilenas in Kansas City. One of my favorite piano = books is CONTEMPORARY PIANO, 12 favorites arranged for solo piano by Stan = Pethel. James Pethel composes mostly for organ. They also do some choral arrangements. Eyrline Morgan  
(back) Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2004 00:05:56 +0800   San Francisco Bay Area -- ~45 Miles East.   Half-hearted looking, I've still got to be portable to play for a = "boxed-up" church.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:46:21 -0700 To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville   > Hello Jan, > > What part of the country are you in, or what country are you in? > > Vern > > > > Wish there were an AGO console in my area to put MIDI keys in ... the = wood > console would be attractive and the keys/sound generator(s) can be = replaced > over-and-over again as technology fails or changes significantly. > >   -- _______________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143          
(back) Subject: Fwd: Diapason sample From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 12:20:33 -0500   Request a free sample copy of the July 2004 issue of The Diapason.   Cover: Lauck Pipe Organ Company, Trinity Christian College, Palos Heights, Illinois, III/46.   Features: "HeillerFest, St. Paul's Church ini Brookline, Massachusetts, March 8-12, 2004," by Leonardo Ciampa;   "The Mortuary Pipe Organ-A Neglected Chapter in the History of Organbuilding in America," by R. E. Coleberd;   "Alternative Organists," by James B. Hartman.   Letters to the editor, news, appointments, reviews of choral, organ, and handbell music, books, and recordings; new organ stoplists, calendar, organ recital programs.   Send your request to editor Jerome Butera jbutera@sgcmail.com Also visit www.TheDiapason.com -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Diapason sample From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:58:23 -0500   Please send free Diapason as mentioned. Thanks James Grebe Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair Artisan of Wood WWW.JamesGrebe.com 1526 Raspberry Lane Arnold, MO 63010 pianoman@accessus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 12:20 PM Subject: Fwd: Diapason sample     > Request a free sample copy of the July 2004 issue of The Diapason. > > Cover: Lauck Pipe Organ Company, Trinity Christian College, Palos > Heights, Illinois, III/46. > > Features: > "HeillerFest, St. Paul's Church ini Brookline, Massachusetts, March > 8-12, 2004," by Leonardo Ciampa; > > "The Mortuary Pipe Organ-A Neglected Chapter in the History of > Organbuilding in America," by R. E. Coleberd; > > "Alternative Organists," by James B. Hartman. > > Letters to the editor, news, appointments, reviews of choral, organ, > and handbell music, books, and recordings; new organ stoplists, > calendar, organ recital programs. > > Send your request to editor Jerome Butera jbutera@sgcmail.com > Also visit www.TheDiapason.com > -- > **************************************** > David Scribner > Owner / Co-Administrator > PipeChat > > http://www.pipechat.org > mailto:admin@pipechat.org > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Diapason sample From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:22:30 -0500   Dear James,   If you scroll down to the bottom of the original message, you will find = the correct address to email your request for a free magazine. This offer has =   no connection whatsoever with Pipechat -- your administrators simply post the message as a courtesy.   Cordially,   Tim Bovard Pipechat Co-Administrator   At 03:58 PM 7/1/2004, you wrote: >Please send free Diapason as mentioned.          
(back) Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:47:32 -0700   Hello Jan,   I am in Newcastle, CA..about 30 miles N. E. of Sacramento.   I have keyboards, pedal boards and stop rails. A console and partial = console that could be made into a keydesk.   These can have MIDI added...   Vern Jones, http://www.Sound-Research.net (916)663-9432   ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Nijhuis <nijhuis@email.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 9:05 AM Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville     > San Francisco Bay Area -- ~45 Miles East. > > Half-hearted looking, I've still got to be portable to play for a "boxed-up" church. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> > Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:46:21 -0700 > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: Re: Saville Sovereign Console Available in Knoxville > > > Hello Jan, > > > > What part of the country are you in, or what country are you in? > > > > Vern > > > > > > > Wish there were an AGO console in my area to put MIDI keys in ... = the wood > > console would be attractive and the keys/sound generator(s) can be replaced > > over-and-over again as technology fails or changes significantly. > > > > > -- > _______________________________________________ > Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! > http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Austin Specifications From: <RJAYWILL@aol.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:56:07 EDT   I did contact Aurtin Organs, but with no response, however, I did send a message off to the person that Bill Hesterman suggested, and I looking = forward to hearding from him.   R Jay  
(back) Subject: New mp3 upload From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 23:15:22 -0700   Now available at:   http://evensongmusic.net/audio/adagio_silent_night.mp3   The Adagio from my Christmas Suite   Enjoy!   Jonathan Orwig http://www.blackiris.com/orwig (personal site) http://www.evensongmusic.net (publishing site with mp3 examples)         --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004