PipeChat Digest #4602 - Thursday, July 8, 2004
 
Re: People who have the unmitigated gall to chat and chatter while I am p
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Moody Bible organ
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
preludes, postludes, and chatter
  by "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net>
ALL my compositions/arrangements on CD - donation requested
  by "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net>
righteous indignation and canned mucis
  by "James Nerstheimer" <enigma1685@yahoo.com>
RE: Organ in the news!
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Righteous indignation!
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Righteous indignation!
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Righteous indignation!
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: preludes, postludes, and chatter
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: Righteous indignation!
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Re: Righteous indignation!
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
RE: Righteous indignation!
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
First Congregational Church (Columbus, OH) 4/66 Kimball info
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Gordon Wilson-RIP
  by "Robert Ridgeway" <robert@magneticlab.com>
Re: Righteous indignation!
  by "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca>
Re: Westminster Abbey
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
OHS 2005 CONVENTION QUESTION (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: (no subject)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
OHS Convention WAS: Re: (no subject)
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: OHS 2005 CONVENTION QUESTION (x post)
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: OHS 2005 CONVENTION QUESTION (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
DENNIS JAMES - THREE CASTRO THEATRE PERFORMANCES this weekend
  by <MUSCUR@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: People who have the unmitigated gall to chat and chatter while I am playi... From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 16:11:47 EDT   Charlie (and list), From my rarifed perch in the ivory-towered choir loft of a not-well-attended-but-well-endowed third-tier Anglo-Catholic Episcopal = parish on Beacon Hill (which, until fairly recently, was also falling down), I shouldn't have = much to say on the topic of good behavior from the congregation during Organ Voluntaries. After all, we're grateful for ANY congregants. Yet, my = congregation doesn't dare fidget during a voluntary, let alone talk during one, at = either end of Solemn High Mass. They chant psalms on Gregorian tones quite nicely, and = help newcomers to learn this, too.   However, I didn't always work at St. John's, and have left some = interesting "little legacies" behind me at other parishes, including an ELCA parish in = the South. And, my current parishioners are not old stodges, either. When the peace is passed, everyone is greeted, and the Deacon or Subdeacon actually = comes up to the choir loft to "pass the kiss of peace" to those who did not = descend into the nave. It has a very evangelical quality to it, which I found = initially jarring as a stodgy Anglo-Catholic.   My point is, that these people have been TRAINED to see the Organ Prelude = or, in penitential seasons, the plainchant introit, as the beginning of the service. They have also been trained in liturgy in general. In all = seasons, after bowing to the processional cross as the Postlude plays, they sit in their = pews until the end of the Postlude. And they weren't trained overnight: several =   parishes I served in the South (NONE of them Anglican) see the Postlude = this way, and still wait to depart until after the end of the Postlude. Choosing = short Postludes, of course, helps. This is not a matter of personal vanity for me--rather, "staying for the music" helps many folks complete their = worship experience as it began--with prayer. Musical prayer. That also takes time, = but what you are publishing in your Bulletin--or Worship Booklet--will help to = build a legacy of appreciation for everything from Prelude to Postlude. I think = you're on exactly the right course.   Pax, Bill H. SJE, Boston.        
(back) Subject: Moody Bible organ From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 15:27:19 -0500   No, the M=F6ller I was thinking of at Moody Bible Institute was = somewhere about five or ten ranks. Probably a practice instrument or small chapel organ or something. I knew somebody who had obtained some or maybe all of the instrument.   Dennis Steckley   "Don't cry because it's over. Smile because it happened."--Dr. Seuss        
(back) Subject: preludes, postludes, and chatter From: "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 13:41:46 -0700   If, by common consent, the people want to visit before and after service, then don't PLAY preludes and postludes. We're not Muzak, after all, or shouldn't be.   I never had a problem with PRELUDES in the Anglican church ... a reverent SILENCE was the RULE almost EVERY place I've played ... but in all but one or two churches, after the Recessional Hymn ended, the places ERUPTED with chatter ... anglo-catholic or low-church, didn't = matter.   So I'd play SHORT, CHEERFUL, marches, transcriptions, or improvisations on the Recessional Hymn, and then go get a cup of coffee (grin). No point in spending the week on a Bach Prelude and Fugue ... the church would be empty before I was half-way through the Prelude anyway.   With the tight Mass schedule in most places, I didn't have TIME for a long, involved postlude ANYWAY. I had to rehearse the NEXT choir for the NEXT Mass (chuckle).   There was one anglo-catholic church (St. James on 55th St. in Cleveland) where PERPETUAL silence in the church was the rule ... there, I often DIDN'T play big postludes, but quiet pieces, while people made their thanksgivings, visited the Blessed Sacrament, lit candles, said the Rosary, etc. after Mass. But I also had only the one High Mass to play.   I don't quite "get" having the people sit down for the postlude ... church is over ... postludes are "music for walking out of church" ... if there's too much noise, then improvise 16 measures on the last hymn and let it go at that. People shouldn't HAVE to sit for the postlude, I don't think.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: ALL my compositions/arrangements on CD - donation requested From: "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 14:23:35 -0700   Mindful of my mortality (grin), and in SERIOUS need of cash (chuckle), I am offering ALL my choral compositions to date on a CD. The files are in Sibelius 1.4 (all) and PDF format (some), BUT ... if you download Scorch (free) from the Sibelius website, you can print and transpose the Sibelius files ... you just can't edit them ... it takes a little tweaking to make them print full-size, but they do.   At last count, there were over 2800 pieces of music on file ... such a deal (grin)! ... the good, the bad, the ugly, and the hilarious ... hymns, Propers, Masses, anthems, etc.   Just the SAB anthems (over 60 titles covering the ENTIRE liturgical year) would be worth it.   I'm asking a donation of $50 US for the lot.   Please send e-mail orders to:   beejayusa@cox.net   if you're paying by Paypal ... that's also our account.   If you're paying by check or money order, checks MUST accompany orders. Please make checks out to   Raymond H. Clark   and send to   2616 University Ave. San Diego CA 92104-2810   CDs will be sent 1st Class US mail. For orders outside the US, I'll leave it to you to figure out how much to add for air-mail postage (grin) ... I haven't a CLUE.   I will continue to send out new compositions/arrangements and request donations for those.   Cheers,   Bud                    
(back) Subject: righteous indignation and canned mucis From: "James Nerstheimer" <enigma1685@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 14:27:43 -0700 (PDT)       Hey, if somebody wants to call me an "elitist" all for the simple fact = that I have good taste, I'll take it as a compliment! I can't help it if = I use 25% of my brain power to the mundane sheep's 5%. That's the way God = made me and I'll take it at that! I'd rather serve a small church, = dedicated to principles of selfless devotion to God in liturgy and music = than some mega McChurch, undifferentiated from the consumerist world = around it.   How bad do we want revival? It starts with each and every one of us. The = key is to not give in or sell out our principles. Hold the holy ground!     jim   O):^)           There let the pealing organ blow To the full voic=92d quire below, In service high, and anthems cleer, And may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into extasies, And bring all Heav=92n before mine eyes.     --John Milton --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish.
(back) Subject: RE: Organ in the news! From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:28:10 -0500   Let me know when it's over.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Randolph Runyon Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:45 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Organ in the news!   Only 636 years left in longest concert Germans playing John Cage organ work very slowly          
(back) Subject: RE: Righteous indignation! From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 17:28:10 -0500   Amen, Amen, Amen.   One point - my degrees are in Political Science/Public Administration and Law, but I've paid for enough music and lessons, and spent enough nightly hours at the console after all day in court, to have a Bachelor's in Music. Will someone please confer on me an honorary degree so I'm not treated like a red-headed step-child any more?   Most churches are not interested in worship these days; they are social clubs. My Methodist friend tells me the Episcopalians (of which I am one) worship good taste (although I haven't seen a lot of good taste lately in church). I haven't figured out what his church worships yet - at least we had happy hour after service. But he has a bigger organ, and a tracker too! Why the church spent so much money for something to play piano-bar music on is beyond me.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (who has just been paid for the last of her 8 weeks' subbing, and was stiffed a Sunday by the Episcopalians)   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Margo Dillard   I begin to believe that the organists are the only people left in Christendom who remember that worship is supposed to be directed to GOD.   Furthermore, it is a corporate offering TO GOD. More and more of our worship styles are about sitting back and relaxing and listening to some   pretty songs and some talking about God - but let's not get too intellectually or spiritually taxing - wouldn't want to strain anything.   What happened to "reverence" - what happened to sacrifice of our time and talents as well as our money - what happened to offering our best, which means putting forth some effort and preparation. And if your personal best happens to involve classical music or any area of the arts   requiring advanced training or "intellectualism", etc., etc. - then you are "elitist" and not acceptable to modern worship. Apparently, we are expected to participate and tolerate styles of music that are not to our   taste, but mustn't impose upon them with Bach and such that are not to theirs - no, no.          
(back) Subject: Re: Righteous indignation! From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 18:48:13 EDT   In a message dated 7/7/2004 6:44:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes: > Will someone please confer on me an honorary > degree so I'm not treated like a red-headed step-child any more?     Well, if you were so inclined, might I suggest you look into the = educational certificate programs at AGO (American Guild of Organists)?   I have an associateship certificate, of which I'm most proud.   My 2 pfarthings worth. Neil by the delightful Bay  
(back) Subject: Re: Righteous indignation! From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:38:58 EDT   Glenda,   Your Methodist friends don't have it quite right. We Anglicans don't = worship good taste, we worship IN good taste. No offense to our Methodist sisters = and brothers, of course!   Cheers, Bill H.  
(back) Subject: Re: preludes, postludes, and chatter From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 19:46:06 EDT   Bud, I wasn't implying that people SHOULD, but that when there are those (in a majority) who wish to remain for a postlude, others should be respectful = by excusing themselves quietly. Because at certain times of year the postlude = is followed (yes, followed) by the Angelus or the Regina Coeli, some who = remain do so to pray. The postlude allows for those (and there are three or four in our =   congregation) who object to Marian devotions to exit with dignity. My = postludes are usually short, from "the repertiore" or well-worked improvisations, = and the congregation looks forward to them. In the summer, they usually ARE short improvs on one of the hymns.   This said, your point is well taken. Pax, Bill H.  
(back) Subject: Re: Righteous indignation! From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 19:21:20 -0500   True story from a priest friend of mine:   While studying to be an Anglican priest, my friend became acquainted with a fellow studying in the Catholic seminary down the road and a person aspiring to be a Lutheran pastor in the theological school over the hill as it were. The three became good friends over the years of their studies and one night, having a beer in a nearby pub, they had a serious discussion about the differences between the three faiths. Their conclusions:   Catholics sin big and get forgiven big! Lutherans sin but are never quite sure they are forgiven. Anglicans on the other hand don't sin a great deal, just occasionally do something in poor taste.     TTFN, Russ         On Jul 7, 2004, at 6:38 PM, DERREINETOR@aol.com wrote:   > Glenda, > > Your Methodist friends don't have it quite right. We Anglicans don't > worship good taste, we worship IN good taste. No offense to our > Methodist sisters and brothers, of course! > > Cheers, > Bill H.  
(back) Subject: Re: Righteous indignation! From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:31:40 EDT   Russ, You're right. Anglicans DO in fact do things in poor taste from time to = time. And, that's funny. See, I may be stodgy but not without a sense of humour.   BH  
(back) Subject: RE: Righteous indignation! From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:43:08 +1200     >Catholics sin big and get forgiven big! >Lutherans sin but are never quite sure they are forgiven. >Anglicans on the other hand don't sin a great deal, just occasionally do something in poor taste.     Well, not quite true, actually.   RC's sin, but only confess when already found out. Lutherans would define living as a sin. Anglicans abolish sin by defining it as merely an accretion of enculturations, to be changed at will.   Ross   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 5/07/2004    
(back) Subject: First Congregational Church (Columbus, OH) 4/66 Kimball info From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 20:59:28 EDT   Greetings,   I just received this flyer in the post this morning.   "Congregational Concerts"   Sundays at 4 pm   Celebrating the rededication of the Chancel organ W. W. Kimball, 1931   Oct 17, 2004 Thomas Murray, organ   Oct. 31, 2004 Three Choirs Festival 130 voices from St. Joseph Cathedral, Broad Street Presbyterian, First = Church   "...festivle hymn singing will be accompanied by both the Kimball and Beckerath organs."   November 14, 2004 Timothy Edward Smith, organ Featuring Carnival of the Animals, Saint-Saens   Dec. 19, 2004 A Festival of Lessons and Carols The First Church choirs in a candlelight celebration of the season   Feb 13, 2005 G. Dene Barnard, organ with Stephen Secan, English Horn   March 13, 2005 First Church Choral Society & premiere of a commission for two organs   April 10, 2005 Geoffrey Morgan, organ British Cathedral organist   May 15, 2005 Organ & Orchestra Gala James David Christie, conductor with G. Dene Barnard & Timothy Smith With forty of Ohio's premiere instrumentalists   "Dene says 'we'll need seatbelts for the pews' when forty members of the Columbus Symphony Orchestra assemble in out chancel to perform three of = the greatest works for organ and orchestra."   All this at: First Congregational Church, United Church of Christ Columbus, OH www.first-church.org     Folks, this should be one awesome year for the Congregational Concert = series.   Musically,   Stan Krider  
(back) Subject: Gordon Wilson-RIP From: "Robert Ridgeway" <robert@magneticlab.com> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:10:28 -0500     > >>WILSON Gordon James Wilson, age 73, of Columbus, Monday, June 28, 2004 = at >>Grant Medical Center. Gordon was a School of Music Professor at The Ohio =   >>State University. Survived by brother, Grady Wilson of Columbus and >>cousin, Mrs. Ruth Mobley of Memphis, TN. Details of a memorial service >>will be announced at a future date. Arrangements by SCHOEDINGER STATE >>STREET CHAPEL. Online condolences may be sent by visiting = www.schoedinger.com. >>    
(back) Subject: Re: Righteous indignation! From: "Russ Greene" <rggreene2@shaw.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 20:16:10 -0500   Oops, didn't mean to imply that their conclusions were true, only that it is a story which actually happened.   Russ     On Jul 7, 2004, at 7:43 PM, TheShieling wrote:   >> Catholics sin big and get forgiven big! >> Lutherans sin but are never quite sure they are forgiven. >> Anglicans on the other hand don't sin a great deal, just occasionally >> do > something in poor taste. > > > Well, not quite true, actually.    
(back) Subject: Re: Westminster Abbey From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:44:19 EDT   We heard Richard Hills in a concert last year and we understood that he = would be an assistant organist at Westminister Abbey. Lee  
(back) Subject: OHS 2005 CONVENTION QUESTION (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:47:12 EDT   Does anyone know where the OHS convention will be next year?   Thanks. -Scott   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.  
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 22:31:03 -0400   > > What will the tab be? I am interested.   OHS convention walk-in registration is often well on to $600, plus hotel cost.   Karl  
(back) Subject: OHS Convention WAS: Re: (no subject) From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:44:10 -0500   At 10:31 PM -0400 7/7/04, Karl Moyer wrote: > What will the tab be? I am interested. > > >OHS convention walk-in registration is often well on to $600, plus hotel = cost. > > Karl   All the information about the Convention next week is at http://www.organsociety.org/2004/ I don't know if it covers "daily" registrations or not but you can contact the OHS at: <conreg@organsociety.org> or by calling 804-353-9226   As of right now I know of approximately 20 people that have responded to the "Roll-Call" for the Convention. I will post the list of attendees at the end of the week. If you haven't sent an email to <convention@blackiris.com> saying that you are attending please do so over the next couple of days.   David  
(back) Subject: Re: OHS 2005 CONVENTION QUESTION (x post) From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2004 23:33:39 -0400   In the area south of Boston, including hearing the 1859 Hook at Holy Trinit= y Lutheran, North Easton MA. Richard Hill is =8B or at least was =8B a co-chairman.=20   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   On 7/7/04 9:47 PM, "ScottFop@aol.com" <ScottFop@aol.com> wrote:   > Does anyone know where the OHS convention will be next year? >=20 > Thanks. -Scott >=20 > Scott F. Foppiano > Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat. >=20      
(back) Subject: Re: OHS 2005 CONVENTION QUESTION (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 23:34:57 EDT   Thanks Karl   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.  
(back) Subject: DENNIS JAMES - THREE CASTRO THEATRE PERFORMANCES this weekend From: <MUSCUR@aol.com> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 02:08:55 EDT   The 9th annual San Francisco Silent Film Festival will be held at the fabulous Castro Theatre in San Francisco this weekend- Saturday and = Sunday, July 10 and 11. The three organ solo programs will feature international touring Silent Film Concerts' musician Dennis James performing at the Castro = Theatre's famous WurliTzer theatre pipe organ. James presents traditional programs = utilize archival 35 mm theatrical prints of each film shown at the original = exhibition projection speeds in authentic image formats and featuring either the surviving complete original scores or period-inspired recreation scores = utilizing historical scoring materials.   Saturday, July 10 - 3:00 p.m. WHAT HAPPENED TO JONES (1926) starring Reginald Denny (Dennis James compiled score)   Saturday, July 10 - 8:00 p.m. THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE (1921) starring Rudolph Valentino (Dennis James solo organ transcription of the = original orchestral score by Louis F. Gottschalk)   Sunday, July 11 - 1:45 p.m. WHEN THE CLOUDS ROLL BY (1919) (Compiled score = by Arthur Kleiner) plus THE MYSTERY OF THE LEAPING FISH (1916) starring = Douglas Fairbanks (New solo organ score commissioned by the Festival, prepared = under a grant from 'Meet the Composer')   Stephen Salmons, Artistic Director of the San Francisco Silent Film = Festival wrote: "Silent films are a rare and precious art form of tremendous = historical importance, and the art of live musical accompaniment to a silent film is = a discipline of equally important historic value. Dennis James is both a = musician of tremendous artistic scope and range, and a scholar who strives to = preserve and restore this unique 20th century musical practice. He is without doubt =   the greatest practitioner of the art of solo silent film accompaniment. To =   witness a contemporary audience experience the beauty and power of silent = film through the overwhelming symphonic dynamism that Dennis James unleashes = with unerring skill on the theatre organ is an absolute revelation. He's a = national treasure."   Castro Theatre 429 Castro Street at Market, San Francisco Info: (415) 621-6120 Public transportation: Muni lines 8, 24, 33, 37 Streetcars K, L, M   SAN FRANCISCO SILENT FILM FESTIVAL - 415-248-9377 Information Online at: www.silentfilm.org   Listing sent from: Silent Film Concerts 7095 Hollywood Boulevard, #483 Hollywood, CA 90028-8903 USA Phone: 323-883-1514 E-mail: muscur@aol.com   To be removed from this mailing list, please respond with written request = to muscur@aol.com