PipeChat Digest #4648 - Monday, July 26, 2004
 
Our Ole Miss friend
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
ALL READ NOW!!!
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
[Fwd: Re: RESOURCES for Baptist/evangelical "stuff" ... Lee? Monty? other
  by "Raymond H. Clark" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re:
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
ALL READ NOW!!!  MyDoom Virus
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Frivolity?
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Organs and Organists online update
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
Re: Hook on Organclearinghouse webpage
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
frivolity
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Tubular Pneumatic Action
  by "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com>
Re: Tubular Pneumatic Action
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
(no subject)
  by "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com>
WAS RE: Felix Hell unsubscribing - now orgL
  by "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk>
Re: Organs and Organists online update
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: Tubular Pneumatic Action
  by <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com>
Re: (no subject)
  by <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com>
Re: (no subject)
  by "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com>
Re: Baptist Hymnal
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: (no subject)
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
Re: hymns
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: (no subject)
  by "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com>
RE: Tubular Pneumatic Action
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: hymns
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Our Ole Miss friend From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:01:38 -0700 (PDT)   And just how is the new organ in the Chapel at Ole Miss? It was going in = as I left home in Jackson. That one as well as the new Austin at the = Methodist church. Resources for a beginning organist... Morning Star Music has excellent hymn arrangements as well as Shawnee Press, Lillennas, and Lifeway/Genovox/Church Street = Music at the Baptist publsihng house in Nashville. As far as accompanying, Conordia Publishing House has their Basic Hymn = Series of books that are pretty good. But, for a good 4 part accompanyment = with original harmonies, the 1982 Hymnal, the Celebration Hymnal, the = Presbyterian Hymnal, and Chalice Hymnal are my faves.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: ALL READ NOW!!! From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:45:45 -0500   Someone, or maybe more that just someone, on this list has a very active virus running on their computer. I have just deleted over 250 Bounced mails to the list which I get when something is sent to the list and is rejected. And all of these were viruses including ones supposedly from the "pipechat.org term" saying that my computer is infected. But since Tim and I ARE the pipechat.org team we know that we didn't send those emails.   EVERYONE and I mean EVERYONE on this list that uses any flavor of the Microsoft Windows Operating System NEEDS to get a virus checker and run it on their machine.   If any of you receive any mail that is "supposedly" from the list and contains an attachment DO NOT OPEN IT - TRASH IT IMMEDIATELY! Since the list does not allow attachments that means that you have been sent a virus and we don't need any more infected computers of list members. If the virus is using either addresses in someone's address book or addresses in someone's mail box many of you could also be receiving these virus emails.   I have also turned on the "received" list headers in mail to the list with the hope that I can track down the or those infected machines.   PLEASE for the sake of everyone on the list get some virus software and run it ASAP!   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: [Fwd: Re: RESOURCES for Baptist/evangelical "stuff" ... Lee? Monty? others?] From: "Raymond H. Clark" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 10:48:00 -0700   Freakin' server (chuckle)   -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: lists of Baptist/evangelical "stuff" ... Lee? Monty? others? Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:10:53 -0500 From: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: Raymond H. Clark <quilisma@cox.net>   >Could you furnish us with a list of Baptist/evangelical "stuff" ... >organ and piano duets, Gospel hymn stylings (organ, piano, organ AND >piano), organ music based on classic/typical Baptist/evangelical hymns, >publishers, etc. etc. etc.? > >My information is twenty years out of date, and I gave most of that >music away when I gave up my Sunday evening job in an evangelical church. > >THANKS! > >Bud > >OMusic@aol.com wrote: > >> I have played Lutheran "stuff" in a Baptist Church, and Baptist "stuff" =     >> in a Lutheran Church. I found it all quite appropriate. I use "This is >> the Feast" in the Green Lutheran Accompaniment Hymnal for Postludes, >> part of Preludes, Interludes, etc. I love it. I used pieces from >> Pedalpoint (I have stacks of them from way back, as well as the most >> current) in the Lutheran Church. Pedal point has music for Piano, >> Organ, Duets for Piano and Organ, Trios for Piano, Organ and Synthizer. =     >> Some of the arrangers/composers are on this list, but I won't tell who. =     >> They can 'fess up, if they wish. The Lutheran church uses many hymn >> tunes written by Baptists. Aren't we all Christians, playing for the >> Glory of God? > >   Your message is being returned because the message looked like it contained a command to the list processor.   If you were trying to send a command, please send it to:   Requests <requests@pipechat.org>   If you are trying to send a message to the PipeChat list, please accept our apologies. The list server tries to prevent commands from being posted to the list and your message appeared to contain a command.   The list processor looks in both the subject and the beginning of each message for the following words:   help info lists subscribe unsubscribe   Try rewriting the message with a slightly different beginning. For example, you might try one of the following:   - change the first word of the message - enclose the first word in quotation marks - insert a line of dashes at the beginning of the message   The change you make must prevent the beginning of the message or the subject from looking like a command.            
(back) Subject: Re: From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:46:27 -0500   Joe,   You might want to consider supplementing your lessons with the Organ Tutor 101 program from BYU. I use this software with my students with excellent results ... and it is fun! Just a thought ....   Best Wishes,   Tim   Joe Norman wrote:   I am finding hymn playing on the organ to be very challenging. My instructor mentioned to me that the only hymnal she knew of that had a = true organ version was the Baptist Hymnal. And I haven't found anything so far surfing on the net. Would anyone be willing to share with me available resources for hymn arrangements for the organ, especially to accompany congregational singing. All suggestions for a beginning organist greatly appreciated. Joe        
(back) Subject: ALL READ NOW!!! MyDoom Virus From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:56:00 -0500   After sending the last note I just went to CNet and read about a new verious of the "MyDoom" virus that is making the rounds today and this is what one or more of you have on your machines.   Here is the link to the story http://news.com.com/MyDoom+variant+slams+mailboxes/2100-7349_3-5283940.html= ?tag=3Dnefd.top   Here is the link to the Symantec Security Response about the virus with removal instructions http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.mydoom.m@mm.htm= l   Again, this virus ONLY affects machines running some version of the Microsoft Windows Operating System. If you have a MAC or run DOS or some version of UNIX it will not affect you   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Frivolity? From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 11:06:05 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I think Andy Lawrence is going a little "over the top" in his critique of pipechat content!   We get some unusually good posts, and I would draw attention to "Bud" Clarke's excellent recent discussions on French Baroque music, Andre Gunther's fascinating account of organs in S.America and many, many others.   Unfortunately, the pipechat format (like its counterpart PIPORG-L) is restricted to words, and for a musician, that can be very frustrating. A few notes of music or audio can reveal more than a whole month of postings.   However, as a general point, we can get decidedly off-topic, and I am not blameless by any means!   There is a group called "organofftopic" which is perfect for all the others things we have far too much time on our hands for, in between work, practise, daily chores, shopping etc etc.   Actually Andy, some of us write very, very quickly and actually don't spend very long on line.   So let's have a sense of balance and proportion. Pipechat is what people make it, and criticism is barely justified when those who choose to leave it make little contribution or have nothing to say in the first place.   Regards,     Colin Mitchell UK     --- Andy Lawrence <andy@ablorgans.com> wrote: > Yes, kudos to Felix for getting out of here. Let's > not distract him. He's > too busy bringing organ music music to the people to > waste time here. I > will probably be gone soon as well. I have not had > any objections... this > place is full of great people. Its fun when on > topic, but not generally > useful.     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Organs and Organists online update From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:05:05 +0300   Following the recent discussion on improvisation, I have added a "Toccata" in the French style improvised by Simon Gutteridge at St. Paul's, Covent garden at the end of a Sunday service in January this year. Simon has visited the US on a recital tour under the auspices of Malcolm Weschler. This is recorded on an 1861 3 manual 28 stop tracker instrument by Bevington - no aids to registration. May I also commend to your attention the website of Scott Montgomery, amongst others added to the links. His fine playing includes performances = of Bach, Messiaen, Widor and Adam Guilain on the Buzard organ at St. John's Episcopal Chapel, Champaign, Illinois, the Wicks-Willis organ at St. = Mary's Cathedral, Peoria, Illinois and the Walker organ at First Congregational Church, Darien, Connecticut. The thread on Barker Lever lead me to do some googling - I went on a = virtual tour of the Chesapeake and Ohio Canal, some old American railroads and the Fisk/Rosales organ featuring the upgraded version of Barker Lever action = in SUNY Buffalo - probably seen and heard by many at the convention. John Foss http://www.organsandorganistsonline.com/      
(back) Subject: Re: Hook on Organclearinghouse webpage From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:12:18 -0600   Hello, Scott:   That URL doesn't bring anything to screen.   Maybe I can interest you in a Roosevelt that I saved from the trash heap. Opus 376. To get a good comparison of probable tonality, audition the Roosevelt, Opus 380, in Trinity Church/Denver.   F. Richard Burt     .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott" <montre1978@yahoo.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 5:44 AM Subject: Hook on Organclearinghouse webpage     > Has anyone seen or heard this 18 rank organ on the webpage? It looks > perfect for my church.. Just curious if anyone heard it and could tell me a > little bit more about it. Here is the link: > http://www.shakespeare-cambridge.org/downing.html. > > Thanks > > Scott Montgomery > 619 W Church St. > Champaign, IL 61820 > 217.390.0158 > www.scottmontgomerymusic.net > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: frivolity From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:14:31 -0400   Bud and others,   I agree with much of what you said. I realize that we have some philosophical differences, but I admire your musicianship. I have no "formal" musical training other than piano lessons taken from "the lady = down the street" as a child. I am a self-taught organist. I can tell that = there is a great deal of experience and education behind your postings.   I do take issue with the following that you said:   "If someone chooses to play "just for fun" (and for free) in a village church, that is, of course, their right and privilege, though it drives the standards and the salaries down for those of us who ARE professional musicians and make our LIVING playing the organ."   My question is what are the small churches to do for their music? In many of our small Southern Baptist congregations, even the pastors are bivocational. They have another job that provides insurance and other benefits. Even the medium sized churches still don't require the musical abilities of the graduate degree level. The directors themselves are = often poorly trained. I'm always frustrated because I generally know more about music than my director, but I'm just the piano/organ player. I do take my musical responsibilities seriously - insofar as I am able based upon my musical education and with whom I'm working at the time.   How many churches who are meeting in dressed up Butler buildings can = afford a professional musician at union wages? Do these churches really figure into the equation in any way that affects the general standards for performance and salary of the professional musician? When these musicians move around, most of them move horizontally, not upward. Some - who are excelling in their work - do move up to larger and more professional programs.   If there are none of us volunteering our services for small churches, what will they do for music. Some may think that they'll finally ante up to = pay what it takes to get a musician if there are none who will do it for = measly part-time pay.   IOW, please don't make it sound as if I'm hurting the others on the list = by playing the piano or organ for a small church without any professional education in the area. I do hope that my medical practice will allow me, some day, to take some college level classes in music history, = appreciation, as well as get some college level piano technique (and organ). As soon as my pipe organ is playing, I will have an organ on which to practice.   I don't think "we" really hurt the profession for the professionals.   Humbly submitted, Keith Zimmerman    
(back) Subject: Tubular Pneumatic Action From: "Daniel Hancock" <dhancock@brpae.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:19:29 -0500   Hello List.   =20   I've recently had cause to inquire into the workings of tubular-pneumatic organ actions and have heard about a supposed unreliability in instruments with these actions. Is it typical to experience dead notes and ciphers in such actions? Are actions restorable to any degree of reliability?   =20   Do any of you know of T-P organs that are either functioning reliably in original or restored condition? If any of you have or can point me to diagrams of these actions, I would be grateful   =20   I have a small tubular pneumatic organ at my disposal, 1910 A.B Felgemaker opus 1067 of 11 ranks and two manuals/pedal with a pretty standard disposition for that time. I'm looking in to finding a home for it, but it may have to be stored for some time. Is it worth my while to restore the tubular pneumatic action, or will it ever be reliable? If so, should the lead tubes be kept (or can they even) or replaced with rubber or plastic.   =20   Any help on this topic is sought after. I have a rather elementary period diagram of such an action, and would be happy to share it with interested parties.   =20   Daniel   =20   Timothy Daniel Hancock   =20   Dean, American Guild of Organists, Springfield Chapter   Organist, Grace United Methodist Church   Assistant Organist, St. Agnes Cathedral Church   =20   847 South Weller Avenue   Springfield, Missouri 65802   417.862.6272 or dhancock@brpae.com   =20   http://www.agohq.org/chapters/springfieldmo <http://www.agohq.org/chapters/springfieldmo>=20   =20    
(back) Subject: Re: Tubular Pneumatic Action From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:02:58 -0400   At 02:19 PM 7/26/2004, Daniel wrote: >Hello List. > >I've recently had cause to inquire into the workings of tubular-pneumatic =   >organ actions and have heard about a supposed unreliability in = instruments >with these actions. Is it typical to experience dead notes and ciphers = in >such actions? Are actions restorable to any degree of reliability? > >Do any of you know of T-P organs that are either functioning reliably in >original or restored condition? If any of you have or can point me to >diagrams of these actions, I would be grateful > >I have a small tubular pneumatic organ at my disposal, 1910 A.B = Felgemaker >opus 1067 of 11 ranks and two manuals/pedal with a pretty standard >disposition for that time. I'm looking in to finding a home for it, but >it may have to be stored for some time. Is it worth my while to restore >the tubular pneumatic action, or will it ever be reliable? If so, should =   >the lead tubes be kept (or can they even) or replaced with rubber or = plastic. > >Any help on this topic is sought after. I have a rather elementary = period >diagram of such an action, and would be happy to share it with interested =   >parties.   We had such an organ in store for many years, which was all rubber tubing. When it finally was able to be installed all the rubber tubing = had perished and was replaced with heavy walled polythene tubing. As far as I =   am aware, the polythene tubing is still being used and the organ is = working OK.   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: From: "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 12:18:33 -0700 (PDT)   I bet I'm the youngest person on pipechat. If someone begs to differ, = please let me know. Oh, Scott, I can kinda see that organ in Holy Cross. = Hey, it's pretty cheap. That's a plus. ~Bernie   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out!
(back) Subject: WAS RE: Felix Hell unsubscribing - now orgL From: "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 20:27:50 +0100   V Hatch <vhatch@hotmail.com> asked about subscribing to "orgL". I suspect = he is mispelling the French word "orgue" and the list he is looking for is = the UK based one, run by Brian Styles. The link http://cdmnet.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orgue-l provides subscription information.   Peter M Harrison BIOS Membership Secretary web: www.bios.org.uk   & PHM : P O Box 383 : Bury : BL8 4WX : GB tel 07799 62 1954 / 01204 887161 web: www.phmusic.co.uk         -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] Sent: 26 July 2004 18:28 To: PipeChat   1: I think that pipechat is great but since this toopic of frivolity came up it gives me the chance to ask this question--with all due respect and = not to offend anyone but just because I heard about it in LA at AGO: what is orgL and how do you subscribe to that (is this question considered subversive? If so just ignore it). Would the process of subscribing be = that you look for a website www.orgL.org ? ....    
(back) Subject: Re: Organs and Organists online update From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:54:38 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:05 PM Subject: Organs and Organists online update     > Following the recent discussion on improvisation, I have added a = "Toccata" > in the French style improvised by Simon Gutteridge at St. Paul's, Covent > garden at the end of a Sunday service in January this year. Simon has > visited the US on a recital tour under the auspices of Malcolm Weschler. > This is recorded on an 1861 3 manual 28 stop tracker instrument by > Bevington - no aids to registration.   I have met Simon Gutteridge at a couple of OHS Conventions in the past, = and can vouch for the fact that he is an extremely nice chap as well as an excellent organist. He is also extremely lucky in having in St. Paul's , Covent Garden one of the finest organs in London, notwithstanding that it was built in 1861 and has four composition pedals = as the only aid to registration. His improvised Toccata on the website sounds stunning, worthy of Marcel Dupr=E9!   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: Tubular Pneumatic Action From: <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:04:30 EDT   Dear List, The Tabernacle Organ's first firm renovation was a Kimball that = had Tubular Pneumatics. It had to be replaced after 10 or 15 years of use because the rubber would harden up and break away. The temperature and = humidity had a lot to do with the breaking down or the Pneumatics.   Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:05:06 EDT   Hey Bernie and All, I am 17 yrs.   Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:09:13 -0700 (PDT)   I'm 14. I knew I was the youngest one!!! ~Bernie   Rachmaninoff45@aol.com wrote: Hey Bernie and All, I am 17 yrs. Best Regards, Gregory Hinson     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!
(back) Subject: Re: Baptist Hymnal From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:09:59 -0600   Hello, Joe, et al: > I am finding hymn playing on the organ to be very > challenging. My instructor mentioned to me that > the only hymnal she knew of that had a true organ > version was the Baptist Hymnal. And I haven't > found anything so far surfing on the net. Baptist printed materials, and a very wide variety of music styles are published by the Southern Baptist Conventions agencies in Nashville, TN. They are sold around the country through the LifeWay Book Stores. You probably have access to them in several towns in Mississippi, but if that becomes unfruitful, try this URL: http://www.lifewaystores.com/lwstore/ and click on the MUSIC icon in the middle of the options bar. We were looking for PedalPoint magazine just this morning, and found it here. However, I believe that "organaist" hymnals are available from most denominational music publishers. F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs ..    
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:11:22 EDT   I started my career as a Church Organist at age 14. Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: hymns From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:14:28 -0600   Hello, Bud, et al:   > > I am finding hymn playing on the organ to be very challenging. My > > instructor mentioned to me that the only hymnal she knew of that had > > a true organ version was the Baptist Hymnal.   A "true organ version was the Baptist Hymnal," . . . means it comes in a loose leaf binder that allows you to remove the pages and set them on the music rack without all the rest of that bulk. <grins>   F. Richard Burt     ..      
(back) Subject: Re: (no subject) From: "Bernadette Wagner" <musicalgrl90@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:17:18 -0700 (PDT)   i started playing at 12. ~Bernie   OMusic@aol.com wrote: I started my career as a Church Organist at age 14. Lee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!
(back) Subject: RE: Tubular Pneumatic Action From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 08:32:40 +1200   >I=92ve recently had cause to inquire into the workings of = tubular-pneumatic organ actions and have heard about a supposed unreliability in = instruments with these actions.=A0 Is it typical to experience dead notes and = ciphers in such actions?=A0 Are actions restorable to any degree of reliability?   You'd need to define the action more. some organs have exhaust pneumatic action, others have pressure. Some are on slider chests, some are not. = If you have exhaust pneumatics on slider chests, you may well have an = action that in the longterm is far more reliable than anything else but = tracker, making it very well worth keeping. A good exhaust action on slider = chests is just as far as electrics, provided the console is not put yards and = yards and yards away.   Here in Wellington NZ we have a 4/57 Norman & Beard from 1906, with two full-length 32fts, massive high-pressure Solo tubas at 16, 8 & 4 = (straight ranks), all that sort of stuff, and the action has been restored but = once since new, and that was in the last 20 years. The action is = blindingly-fast, repetition faultless, and no one here would even dream of electrifying = the beast. Faults just don't occur.   Be VERY careful before throwing out good pneumatics.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: hymns From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 16:38:45 EDT   It also means it is written especially for the organist, leaving out some = of the runs in the pedal for the bass, which are on the piano version. It is =   also enlarged so the organist can see it better, but when it is on the = music rack, the book takes up the entire length. I suppose that is why it is a = 3 ring punched book, so the hymns can be taken out when used. It is great, = except when the music director decides to change hymns in mid stream and you have = a certain hymn ready. I kept an old "regular" hymnbook handy for such = occasions. The music director for whom I play now enlarges all the music and puts it = in a notebook in the order it is to be played for both services. The only = changes are sometimes the pastor asks for a different invitation hymn just as I = start to play. Lee