PipeChat Digest #4566 - Saturday, June 19, 2004
 
Re: NPM
  by <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com>
Re: NPM
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]
  by "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
Book recommendation xposted
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Organ teachers near Concord, NH
  by "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com>
Home organ specs.
  by "black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: Book recommendation xposted
  by "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net>
Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: Book recommendation xposted
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]
  by "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]
  by "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]
  by "Frances Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: NPM From: <HOLYMUSIC@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:40:42 EDT   What a shame that the AGO Convention and NPM are scheduled for the same time.....haven't most folks opted for the "Gala" in Los Angeles?  
(back) Subject: Re: NPM From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:59:53 EDT   In a message dated 6/19/2004 6:41:24 AM Eastern Standard Time, HOLYMUSIC@aol.com writes:   > haven't most folks opted for the "Gala" in Los Angeles   especially since there are 2 ore NPMs....   dale in Florida  
(back) Subject: Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted] From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 08:42:47 -0500   Thanks Charles for your description. James Grebe Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair Artisan of Wood WWW.JamesGrebe.com 1526 Raspberry Lane Arnold, MO 63010 pianoman@accessus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "Pipe Organs & Related Topics" <piporg-l@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 12:44 AM Subject: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]     > Did anyone else happen to catch Ray Charles' very beautiful > send-off on TV today? > > Now, THAT was a funeral. > > Plenty of stout ladies in glittery outfits topped with big > hats; formally attired, white-gloved Ushers; > self-consciously terse and officious members of the dais; a > large and joyful gospel choir; lots of AMENS and > HALLELUJAHS; much hand- and hankie-waving; standing-up; > shouts; tears ... I felt right at home, having played for > many funerals like this over the years. > > The service was held at the First A.M.E. Church in Los > Angeles, ostensibly the oldest Black congregation in the > city. They have a combo pipes & digital rig there, a Rodgers > 960 with pipes, I think it is --- but I did not hear it used > at all. Just Hammond, electronic piano, digital keyboards, > and drums. > > I must say the Hammond sounded particularly cheesy on the TV > broadcast (okay, never mind --- NO, a Hammond does not > always sound cheesy!) ----- because, I think, there was a > direct line feed from the Hammond output to the video > recording system. It sounded very "instant" and raw, with no > room tone. In the right room and the right organist [whoever > was playing was not the greatest Hammondiste I have ever > heard], a Hammond "in its element" sounds FABULOUS. No other > organ can do what a Hammond can do with jazz, blues and gospel. > > Stevie Wonder sang the very touching gospel song "I Won't > Complain." In his remarks, he expressed regret that "Ray was > not able to outlive hate and injustice." > > B.B. King gave a very moving tribute. Through his tears, he > sang and played the guitar on "Please Accept My Love." He > said that Ray Charles always beat him at cards -- quipping > that he had marked the cards in Braille. > > Willie Nelson, in his inimitable nasal twang, sang "Georgia > on My Mind," one of Charles' best known tunes, and brought > the audience to its feet for one of many times during the > service. > > Country icon Glen Campbell performed the gospel classic, > "Where Could I Go But to the Lord" on guitar, as the crowd > clapped along. > > Jazz trumpeter Wynston Marsalis played an emotionally > wrought rendition of "Rock of Ages." > > Johnny Mathis was there, and at the end of the service, > during the "Final Viewing" (*) they played a cut from a CD > that he and Ray had just finished .... the song: ... "Over > the Rainbow." WOW. It was INCREDIBLE. Not a dry eye in the > church, and even I sat on the sofa bawling. My sweet, very > concerned doggies came over to comfort me -- couldn't figure > out what was wrong with me. > > Ray Charles' own voice was heard a few times, singing "My > Buddy" as well as his very moving version of "America the > Beautiful." > > Other notable guests included Little Richard, Motown Records > founder Berry Gordy, Jr., actor Steven Seagal, Clint > Eastwood, actress Cicely Tyson, and the Rev. Jesse Jackson. > > To his credit, Dr. "Chip" Murray, the church's Senior > Pastor, kept his eulogy brief and succinct. The funeral > ticked out at a crisp two hours long. Considering whose > funeral it was, I was surprised it was not a LOT longer. You > can usually count on -at least- two hours at Black > Evangelical funerals, and sometimes three or more if a lot > of people are lined up to pay respects and offer tributes. > > For the first time since hearing of Ray Charles' death, I > felt very sad today. It was a very joyful service but, as > always, the poignant undercurrent of grief was raw and > heart-rending. > > ------- > (*) Frequently, a final -- and, to me, a very gruesome -- > touch at Black funerals is that the casket is opened up for > a last look, then closed again before rolling it out. > Sometimes the mortician even makes a big "Do" about screwing > the lid closed with a little crank thing that locks the > cover. It takes a couple-dozen turns of the crank and, well, > it just makes it seem so very ....... FINAL ....... It's a > very disturbing and emotionally powerful thing. I've seen > families, especially children, go into hysterics when the > coffin is closed for the final time. I don't get it. Why, I > mean, do families subject themselves to such unnecessary, > horrific grief? It's absolutely heartbreaking. > ------- > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Book recommendation xposted From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:17:09 -0400   Worship Wars in Early Lutheranism: Choir, Congregation, and Three Centurie= s of Conflict By Joseph Herl (Concordia Univ., Seward, Nebr.) Oxford University Press, $52   Details: go to http://www.oup/us Over at the right, insert =B3promo code=B2 23975 Then "Go." Move down the center of the page a bit to the book.   Hit button, =B3Read More=B2 for tons of details on the book and the author.   Alan Freed=20    
(back) Subject: Organ teachers near Concord, NH From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:49:31 -0400   Hi everyone,   One of my high school organ students will be attending Magdalen College in New Hampshire in the fall and would like to continue organ lessons (not offered at Magdalen). I'm looking for ideas on good organ teachers in the Concord, New Hampshire area. Any farther away will probably not work. Suggestions will be much appreciated.   Steve Best in Utica, NY    
(back) Subject: Home organ specs. From: "black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:17:06 -0500   HI list, Here is my house organ, electric and pneu. actions. 1905 Estey pipework, 1924 Hinners shutters, oboe and keydesk. entire organ under one expression.   Great: open diapason 8 melodia 8 dulciana 8 unda maris 8 (no pipework as yet) sw-gt unison, sub and octave octave 4 fifteenth 2 (Schneider pipework) mix. 1 1/3 trumpet 8 Swell: stopped diapason 8 viola 8 voix celeste 8 ( moller I think) ( swell to swell unison, ocatve and sub, swell unison off) harmonic flute 4 piccolo 2 ( from stopped diapason 8, I think) sesquialtera II ( no pipework yet and misspelled) try this one = on spell check tremulant oboe 8 pedal: resultant 32) from bourdon and wired in at the relay bourdon 16 open diapason 8( gt) ( swell and gt to ped. unison and octave) bourdon 8 ( bourdon 16 wired in at an octave above the 16 at = the relay) choral bass 4 ( open diapason gt. wired in at 4' at relay) fagotto 16 ( half length resonators, Casavant) bassoon 8 ( oboe 8 Swell)   Could I use a smaller or larger scale dulciana for the unda maris?   In the future i would like to add an 8' harmonic tuba for the balcony in the foyer. What fun! Thanks for listening, Gary        
(back) Subject: Re: Book recommendation xposted From: "Paul R. Swank" <prswank@surfbest.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:12:16 -0400   Hi Alan,   Thanks for the book recommendation. I have just finished ordering it.   The site should read:   <http://www.oup.com/us>   Paul R. Swank Retired from the worship wars in Baltimore   At 04:17 PM 6/19/04, you wrote: >Worship Wars in Early Lutheranism: Choir, Congregation, and Three= Centuries >of Conflict >By Joseph Herl (Concordia Univ., Seward, Nebr.) >Oxford University Press, $52 > >Details: go to http://www.oup/us >Over at the right, insert =B3promo code=B2 23975 Then "Go." >Move down the center of the page a bit to the book. > >Hit button, =B3Read More=B2 for tons of details on the book and the author. > >Alan Freed    
(back) Subject: Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted] From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:13:12 -0400   Charlie wrote:   >> I don't get it. Why, I > > mean, do families subject themselves to such unnecessary, > > horrific grief? It's absolutely heartbreaking.   But it's honest. There is no one moment in a funeral service that isn't = wrought with grief and tears.   I took a course on "Occasional Services" (which includes funerals) at a = Lutheran seminary. I'll not bore the list with the details, but suffice it to say = that there are three stages in every "rite of passage". It seems to me that this "final = viewing" is a sign of entry into the third stage. The meal that follows any funeral = service is also a part of that passage into the third stage. (Called post-liminality... = from a cultural standpoint by van Gennep.)   --Shirley        
(back) Subject: Re: Book recommendation xposted From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:36:03 -0400   The more important something is, the more sure I am to screw it up. Thanks to Paul Swank, a correction in the URL below   On 6/19/04 4:17 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> wrote:   > Worship Wars in Early Lutheranism: Choir, Congregation, and Three Centur= ies > of Conflict > By Joseph Herl (Concordia Univ., Seward, Nebr.) > Oxford University Press, $52 >=20 > Details: go to http://www.oup.com/us=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0[now corrected] > Over at the right, insert =B3promo code=B2 23975 Then "Go." > Move down the center of the page a bit to the book. >=20 > Hit button, =B3Read More=B2 for tons of details on the book and the author. >=20 > Alan Freed=20 >=20    
(back) Subject: RE: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted] From: "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:44:18 -0400   Viewing is barbaric. Only in America. Mari   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Shirley Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 6:13 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]     Charlie wrote:   >> I don't get it. Why, I > > mean, do families subject themselves to such unnecessary, > > horrific grief? It's absolutely heartbreaking.   But it's honest. There is no one moment in a funeral service that isn't wrought with grief and tears.   I took a course on "Occasional Services" (which includes funerals) at a Lutheran seminary. I'll not bore the list with the details, but suffice it to say that there are three stages in every "rite of passage". It seems to me that this "final viewing" is a sign of entry into the third stage. The meal that follows any funeral service is also a part of that passage into the third stage. (Called post-liminality... from a cultural standpoint by van Gennep.)   --Shirley       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted] From: "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:09:18 -0700   I grew up in the Deep South ... my grandfather was laid out in the front parlor with an open casket; both my grandfather's and my father's caskets were open at the (Southern Baptist) funeral service in the church, and EVERYBODY went up for a "last look" ... then the funeral director closed the lid and screwed it down, just like it was described in the earlier post.   Something I'D note is that back then, children were NOT shielded from death OR the funeral rites ... I was six when Daddy died; I sat at the wake with the rest of the family; I went to the funeral. Same with my grandfather ... I think I was about 9 or 10 when he died. The men of the family sat up all night at the funeral home until they were buried.   The meals afterwards were an ESSENTIAL part of the rites. When I was at the old Italian mother church in Cleveland, the funeral homes all had dining halls and kitchens just for that purpose.   While I was at St. Matt's, we had an HORRIFIC funeral of an infant who had drowned in the family swimming pool. The whole choir turned out, and we sang the Burial of an Infant from the portico of the mausoleum. When the priest indicated to the funeral director it was time to lower the coffin (into a multi-level grave), the funeral director turned in HORROR and hissed, "they can't see her like THAT!" He finally reluctantly lowered the coffin to JUST below ground level until the family had left. When the mourners went to throw dirt on the coffin, we had to pull aside two layers of "funeral home grass" ... the whole thing smacked of "The Loved One" and TOTAL denial.   Small-town funeral homes aren't bad, but the big chains will steal you blind. All they look at is total "sales per unit."   Me, I want a pine box, and they're HARD to come by these days, thanks to "death industry" lobbying for laws requiring embalming, hermetically sealed metal coffins, etc. etc. etc. We have the Orthodox Jews to thank that they haven't succeeded, at least in SOME states.   Cheers,   Bud   Shirley wrote:   > Charlie wrote: > > >>> I don't get it. Why, I >>>mean, do families subject themselves to such unnecessary, >>>horrific grief? It's absolutely heartbreaking. > > > But it's honest. There is no one moment in a funeral service that isn't = wrought > with grief and tears. > > I took a course on "Occasional Services" (which includes funerals) at a = Lutheran > seminary. I'll not bore the list with the details, but suffice it to = say that there are > three stages in every "rite of passage". It seems to me that this = "final viewing" is a > sign of entry into the third stage. The meal that follows any funeral = service is also > a part of that passage into the third stage. (Called post-liminality... = from a cultural > standpoint by van Gennep.) > > --Shirley > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted] From: "Frances Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 16:18:51 -0700   My husband comes from large family of German-Catholics in Dubuque, Iowa. I am from a Protestant New Mex-Tex culture. What a shock when I saw them = take photos of their loved one in the casket. I thought it rather barbaric, but they always did that and thought it the normal thing to do. Also, they = have these huge sit down dinners after the funeral mass. We have been married = for over 50 years, so I have gotten over the culture shock! Fran   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond H. Clark, Quilisma Publications" <quilisma@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 4:09 PM Subject: Re: Ray Charles' Funeral [x-posted]