PipeChat Digest #4578 - Thursday, June 24, 2004
 
Re: up, down, all around
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Anglican funeral rites
  by "tmbrown@vance.net" <tmbrown@vance.net>
40 Years Kleuker Organ of German LC 03
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <rgunther@cantv.net>
Estey "Cash Register" consoles
  by "Will Scarboro" <whs1325@yahoo.com>
Mystery Organist
  by "Will Scarboro" <whs1325@yahoo.com>
Re: Estey "Cash Register" consoles
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: up, down, all around
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: 40 Years Kleuker Organ of German LC 03
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
hymnal search
  by "Robert Eversman" <tre7bor53@mhtc.net>
Re: up, down, all around
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: up, down, all around
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: hymnal search
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: hymnal search
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: up, down, all around
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
BBC Radio 3 Tomorrow
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: up, down, all around
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: Amazin' Grace
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Organ Dedication Sunday in Cold Spring, New York
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
IMPORTANT - Email to the list Problems
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: up, down, all around From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 06:07:39 -0500   Alicia Zeilenga wrote: > As far as I know here in Central Illinois, fathers walk their daughters > down the aisle and the bride and groom walk down the aisle. Seems > silly, but that's what I've heard.   Many churches are constructed like Theaters in such a way that the highest seats are at the rear of the Sanctuary, to help achieve better sight-lines. Therefore, it stands to reason that to approach the Altar, one proceeds (liturgically) East by walking "downhill". Generally, then one goes up at least one (or more) steps to the Altar, Picnic Table-whatever, once the front is reached.   So, in essence, one would be walking both "down" and "up" to get to the Altar.   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS  
(back) Subject: Re: Anglican funeral rites From: "tmbrown@vance.net" <tmbrown@vance.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:21:15 -0400   ----- Original Message ----- Subject: RE: Anglican funeral rites=20 From: "Shirley" <pnst=2Eshirley@verizon=2Enet>=20 Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2004 12:48:50 -0400=20       On 23 Jun 2004 at 16:42, TheShieling expounded:=20   > Does the USA still have the practice of having a clergyman's coffin=20 > facing one way in the church, and laypeople's coffins the other way?=20 > It's still done here, with the placement being done by the undertaker=20 > (before the congregation arrives, perhaps half an hour before the=20 > service begins=2E=20   Some funeral directors do, but I don't think it's a churchwide thing=2E=A0=A0= The=20 idea is=20 that if the Rapture occurs in that very moment, the dead pastor can stand=20=   up and=20 continue his preaching and exhorting, and if it's a lay person, that person=20=   can join=20 the congregation as the presiding pastor switches gears from a funeral rite=20=   to a=20 Eucharistic rite, I guess=2E=20   I noticed that Reagan's coffin was turned around before it processed up=20 the aisle=20 after the mass at the National Cathedral=2E=A0=A0I don't know what that was = about,=20 nor=20 how they knew at that point which end was which=2E=20   --Shirley=20   An Episcopal Priest once explained to me that "laypersons" must "face the=20=   cross" (as if sitting/sitting up)=2E Only clergy persons are allowed to "tur= n their=20 backs" on the cross, he said=2E We've used that as a guideline here in=20 NC/USA ever since=2E   Thurletta (Monty's counterpart=2E=2E=2Eanother funeral director church organist/choir = director      
(back) Subject: 40 Years Kleuker Organ of German LC 03 From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <rgunther@cantv.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:45:21 -0400   Andres Gunther rgunther@cantv.net   40 Years Kleuker Organ of La Resurrecci=F3n LC, Caracas, Part 03 HISTORY OF THE ORGAN   From the first moment when the German Preacher Congregation was rejoined under the Pastorate of Dr. Falk she feeled the need to own a good pipe = organ someday. But obviously that project had to wait for several years and the Congregation had to conform with a "Lindholm" reed organ, which still = stands in the Multi-purpose Hall of the Center; and an horrible 'first generation' electrium whose squeaks and wails still ring in my ears, and which fortunatedly disappeared in 1970. My father was the first Director of Music from 1952 to 1956 (the history = of the organists will be related further on). In 1956, Mrs. Ruth Gosewinkel took over the position. Her main goal was to get a valuable pipe organ for the church, which was dedicated in 1957. The project had to wait however until the internal decoration and furnishing of the church were finished.   In 1961, Fund Raising for the Organ was started. The whole income of the Christmas Bazaar of that year was for the new organ! Mrs Gosewinkel made the tonal design of the new instrument. In early Fall 1962 the Commitee submitted the project to several organ firms in Germany, and Detlef = Kleuker Orgelbau in Bielefeld was chosen in a meeting at Spt 24. Kleuker Orgelbau got their reputation because OBM Detlef Kleuker developed several patented organ building methods to create instruments that a) = could resist the tropical climate and the pests there, and b) remain in functioning condition for long periods without maintenance. Further, their instruments had a great artistic and tonal quality (Neo Baroque Concept). In 1963, the organ was manufactured in Mr. Kleuker's workshop. In mid-July 1964 the organ was packed into five boxes and shipped to Venezuela, where = it arrived Aug 30 in La Guaira (our main seaport), and from there in Caracas = on Spt 08.   On Spt 16th 1964 Mr. Miklis, Chief Technician of the Kleuker Firm, started the organ assembly in the church. Exactly a month later, Oct. 16th 1964, = the organ was approved and taken over by the Mrs. Gosewinkel, the Commitee and the Congregation Board, and two days later, Oct 18th 1964, it was = dedicated and played for first time in worship. Dec 10 and Dec 12 1964 the new organ was used for first time in the traditional Christmas Concert of the congregation. In August 1965 the last payment to Mr Kleuker was made. Mr. Miklis came to Caracas to re-tune and re-adjust the instrument, and Prof. Ernst Ulrich = von Kamecke, Director of Music of the St Petri Church in Hamburg, gave the = first Soloistic Recital on it.   The organ had costed 75.000 Bolivares (17.442 US-Dollar at that time). It has two 56 note compass manuals and a 30 note compass pedal; tracker = action, 13 stops, and is a typical Neobarroque instrument. It is made of termite resistant wood (mostly Mahogany and phenolic resin-treated high density plywood) and incorporates modern materials like metal trackers and plastic components. The most interesting building features are the tone channels which are scaled rectangular tubes of reinforced phenolic resin glued together into = a block that conforms the chest; and the acrylic sliders, witch run enclosed in polished brass guide rails mounted atop the "channel-block". The = (swimmer type) wind regulators are attached directly to the pallet box and the = lower side of the chest. This system is very compact and can work in severe conditions for many years without major maintenance (the acrylic sliders however tend to break at the stress points).   The facade is a modern "Werkprinzip" concept to match with the sober, geometrical lines of the church. Two side turrets contain each the five of the largest Pommer 16' pipes; the Hauptwerk (GO) is at the top with the 4' Principal pipes in fa=E7ade, and the Brustwerk is below the Hauptwerk = enclosed in a box. The specification is as follows:   Hauptwerk [GO] (manual I): Koppelfloete 8', Prinzipal 4' (tin, in facade), Waldfloete 2', Mixtur V   Brustwerk [Pos] (manual II, enclosed behind massive doors): Gedakt 8', Rohrfloete 4', Prinzipal 2', Quint 1-13', Sesquialtera, Zimbel III - Tremulant.   Pedal: Pommer 16' (Copper, 8 pipes in facade), Gemshorn 8', Choralbass 4' II-I, II-Ped, I-Ped   The records show that Detlef Kleuker Orgelbau was well appreciated by the german lutherans in Venezuela. In December 1970 a 4 stop positive of the same firm was erected in the Chapel of the Center, substituting the = dreadful electrium I mentioned above. The new instrument was donated by the = Letonian congregation. In 1971 a small 6 stop organ was erected in the Lutheran Church in Valencia (Carabobo State). In 1974 Mr. Kleuker submitted a swell shutter project for the Brustwerk of the organ in La Resurreccion LC, = which wasn't realized. This is a pity, because the organ would gain a lot with = it. Other two never realized projects from Mr Kleuker were a concert organ for the National Library in Caracas and an organ for the Teresa Carre=F1o Culture Complex. In 1983, Kleuker Orgelbau restored three of our six Cavaille-Colls, and assembled together and tonal-finished the II/40 organ = of the Tucupita Cathedral in Delta Amacuro State.   Until 1982 Mr. Kleuker and his staff cared regularly for their = instruments. In 1984, the economic slowdown made it impossible to the congregations to pay services by foreign organ technicians anymore, and Mr Kleuker = authorized a humble servant to take over the care and maintenance of the three instruments in 1985. I am in charge since then- more after Mr Kleuker died in early 1988 and the firm was dissolved. The organ is heavily used and needs a maintenance every 3 to 5 years. The little organ in Valencia gets maintenance and repairs every 7 to 8 years average- a true sign for the technical quality of these instruments. In Summer 2001 an extensive releathering and overhaul to both the Organ = and the Positive in Caracas was due. The congregation hadn't the money to pay the job, but a wealthy member sponsored the project.   Next October 2004 the organ will have its 40th anniversary. Since organ building aesthetics have changed since 1964 the organ is becoming an interesting showpiece and a "tonal document" of a past aera. Precisely for that I vetoed a Re-voicing and mixture re-designing project, proposed by a very respectable german organ firm in 1991 (anyway it would have been too expensive). The organ would have lost some of its originally intended character. This way it conserves a sound that is ear-splitting close to = the organ but becomes silvery-bright in the church nave. I designed and made a special miniature tuning cone for the tiny treble pipes in the mixtures, which have an almost ultrasonic pitch, and more important, I learned how = to tune them without making myself crazy.   The special technical features are unimitated as far as I know. The expensive and complicated slider design is obsolete; nevertheless I admire the beautiful metal work every time I have to disassemble the organ- = mostly for cleaning purposes only. I am not informed if the idea with the RPhR channels glued together was taken over by somebody. I know that many organ builders cringe regarding this, but for tropical organ building it is = worth a serious consideration. The only problem is that the organs are extremely "compact". The pipes = stand too narrow together; to releather a regulator half of the instrument has = to be disassembled. This difficults their tuning and maintenance.   In the next installments I will write about the organists who played on = the organ of the Resurreci=F3n church in Caracas and the music activities = there. Stay tuned... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Estey "Cash Register" consoles From: "Will Scarboro" <whs1325@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:55:05 -0700 (PDT)   The Estey "cash register" console was one of the early attempts at = reforming the organ console. As has already been said, they are called = "cash register" consoles because one of the first organs to be equipped = with such a console was the Estey organ for the National Cash Register = Company auditorium. I can speak on this type of console and how it relates to the two = municipal organs built by Estey in Sacramento (opus 2526 IV/49) and = Orlando (opus 2583 IV/92). Both organs were supplied with this type of = console. These two organs we Esteys only attempt at building for the = larger municipal auditorium market. Both organs suffered from mechanical = problems some of which stemmed from their "cash register" consoles. These type of consoles had many shortcomings: the buttons were small and = sometimes hard to push, when the light bulbs inside to stops burned out or = there was a strong light on the console it was very difficult to figure = out what stops were on. There were even cases of organist getting = electrocuted by the stop buttons. Estey was ahead of it's time regarding = these types of consoles. Bowing to the shortcomings of the "cash register" consoles, Estey = introduced the "Master Keydesk" which was really a fancy marketing name = for an ordinary stoptab console. It wouldn't be until many years later that Rodgers and then Allen would = introduce stop controls similar to the Estey "cash register" type. I hope this helps and adds to the depth of the discussion. Will Scarboro     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers!
(back) Subject: Mystery Organist From: "Will Scarboro" <whs1325@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 05:58:52 -0700 (PDT)   I know that there has already been discussion on who the "mystery = organist" is, but during my own research for my previous message on Estey = consoles I found that exact picture. It is on page 115 of the = "Encyclopedia of the American Theatre Organ" vol. I. The organist is identified as C.A.J. Parmentier. Will Scarboro   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out!
(back) Subject: Re: Estey "Cash Register" consoles From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:04:00 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Scarboro To: Pipechat Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 7:55 AM Subject: Estey "Cash Register" consoles     > There were even cases of organist getting electrocuted by the stop buttons.   I would think that was a pretty serious problem. A friend of my uncle's actually died through electrocution while playing an organ; in this case = it was an electronic and the amplification system had been wired wrong.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: up, down, all around From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:30:41 -0400   on 6/24/04 7:07 AM, Richard Schneider at arpschneider@starband.net wrote:     > Many churches are constructed like Theaters in such a way that > the highest seats are at the rear of the Sanctuary, to help > achieve better sight-lines. Therefore, it stands to reason that > to approach the Altar, one proceeds (liturgically) East by > walking "downhill".   Kind of shows how architecture is no accident, but conveys not only = meaning but theology. What kind of theology could be behind the church-as-theater tendency? I suppose it goes along with the contemporary notion of worship as being for the entertainment of those in the pews (or in the = movie-theater seats to be found in some recently built churches) instead of as a = sacrifice intended for the Most High. Maybe theology is the wrong word, since it's precisely the loss of theological content that is behind it.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: 40 Years Kleuker Organ of German LC 03 From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 08:04:34 -0600   Congratulations, Andres: The latest portion of the organ history is very interesting, especially the parts about materials and designs that are compatible with tropical climates. I think you are to be commended for keeping the werkprinzip tonal design as it was. Church attitudes may change over time, but this is a good example of how organs were conceived and built in 1970-ish. Keep up the good work. Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: hymnal search From: "Robert Eversman" <tre7bor53@mhtc.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 10:58:10 -0500   Hi all,   If anyone has an extra copy of these two hymnals please email me directly = at tre7bor53@mhtc.net   Let me know what you want for them, almost any condition will be fine. Thanks, Robert   The New Century Hymnal   With One Voice    
(back) Subject: Re: up, down, all around From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 00:48:12 +0800   Hey, at least the new seating arrangement puts people (the congregation) = above God (the alter).   Psalm 8:5 For You have made him a little lower than the angels, And You have crowned him with glory and honor. 6 You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; You have put all things under his feet, 7 All sheep and oxen-- Even the beasts of the field, 8 The birds of the air, And the fish of the sea That pass through the paths of the seas. (NKJV)       ----- Original Message ----- From: Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 09:30:41 -0400 To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: up, down, all around   > on 6/24/04 7:07 AM, Richard Schneider at arpschneider@starband.net = wrote: > > > > Many churches are constructed like Theaters in such a way that > > the highest seats are at the rear of the Sanctuary, to help > > achieve better sight-lines. Therefore, it stands to reason that > > to approach the Altar, one proceeds (liturgically) East by > > walking "downhill". > > Kind of shows how architecture is no accident, but conveys not only = meaning > but theology. What kind of theology could be behind the = church-as-theater > tendency? I suppose it goes along with the contemporary notion of = worship > as being for the entertainment of those in the pews (or in the = movie-theater > seats to be found in some recently built churches) instead of as a = sacrifice > intended for the Most High. Maybe theology is the wrong word, since = it's > precisely the loss of theological content that is behind it. > > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   -- _______________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143          
(back) Subject: Re: up, down, all around From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:15:58 -0400   on 6/24/04 12:48 PM, Jan Nijhuis at nijhuis@email.com wrote:   > Hey, at least the new seating arrangement puts people (the congregation) = above > God (the alter). > > Psalm 8:5 For You have made him a little lower than the angels, > And You have crowned him with glory and honor. > 6 You have made him to have dominion over the works of Your hands; > You have put all things under his feet, > 7 All sheep and oxen-- > Even the beasts of the field, > 8 The birds of the air, > And the fish of the sea > That pass through the paths of the seas. (NKJV) > >   So true. Guess we'll have to add an extra line to the Psalm, after verse = 8: "Even the priest, the cross, and the choir / That pass down [sic] the = aisle of the nave."     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: hymnal search From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:08:05 -0400   On 6/24/04 11:58 AM, "Robert Eversman" <tre7bor53@mhtc.net> wrote:   > The New Century Hymnal > > With One Voice > Those should both be very easy. The second one is in print, and in use in thousands of congregations. Go to www.aph.org (or com, if that's what it is).   I have the New Century, but I've given it away. But to a guy who'd = probably be glad to give it back. There must be zillions of them around too. If other possibilities fail, get back to me.   Alan Freed  
(back) Subject: Re: hymnal search From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:26:11 -0400   on 6/24/04 4:08 PM, Alan Freed at acfreed0904@earthlink.net wrote:   On 6/24/04 11:58 AM, "Robert Eversman" <tre7bor53@mhtc.net> wrote:   > The New Century Hymnal > > With One Voice > Those should both be very easy. The second one is in print, and in use in thousands of congregations. Go to www.aph.org (or com, if that's what it is).   I have the New Century, but I've given it away. But to a guy who'd = probably be glad to give it back. There must be zillions of them around too. If other possibilities fail, get back to me.   Alan Freed   abebooks.com has a copy of the NCH for $8.00.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: up, down, all around From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:31:41 -0400   On 6/24/04 12:48 PM, "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> wrote:   > Hey, at least the new seating arrangement puts people (the congregation) = above > God (the alter). >=20 > Psalm 8:5 For You have made him a little lower than the angels,   Now you DO have me confused. Is that good or bad? Seriously: Which way i= s the "new seating arrangement"? Actually, it doesn't make one whit of a difference to me, but do you mean that the congregation is above the altar because the altar has been brought down to the nave floor? Or because the 1880-1940 [new?] protestant fashion was for =B3theatre-style=B2 seating above the level of (even an elevated) altar (=B3up=B2?) front? (=B2First Presbyterian Church=B2 [1922-26?] in most cities is a good [and quite splendid=8Beven if shaped like an inverted bathtub] example.)   Alan  
(back) Subject: BBC Radio 3 Tomorrow From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:52:35 -0400   Dear Listmembers and Friends,   John Mander writes that a portion of the BBC Radio 3 program "In Tune" tomorrow, Friday, is something that was recently recorded in the Mander workshop - something he believes will be of interest. That's all I know about it at the moment. The program goes out at 6 p.m. in the U.K., or 1 p.m. Eastern Time in the U.S. I gather the material recorded in the = workshop in London is only a part of the program, and we don't know exactly when in the hour it will appear. An hour of BBC called "In Tune" could be fun, if = we have to wait for the Mander "episode." So, listen if you can, at the URL below:   http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com      
(back) Subject: Re: up, down, all around From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:53:16 +0800   I think most often the alter table, if there is one, is raised on a = platform. More than a few chuches have taken to building facilities with = "stadium seating." Ostensibly it gives the congregation a better view of = the pulpit, but to my mind makes the whole worship service more of a = theater production. Moreso when a "rock" band is included with drums = (usually a Roland V-drum kit) featured prominantly in the center position. = I'm not averse to this seating arrangement, though my own church, = www.deltaoaks.org, is worshipping in a (very nice) flat-floored gynmasium = of an SDA school.   No confusion was intended ... just an observation that the worship = "experience" has changed in many denominations over the years.     ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 16:31:41 -0400 To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: up, down, all around   > On 6/24/04 12:48 PM, "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> wrote: > > > Hey, at least the new seating arrangement puts people (the = congregation) above > > God (the alter). > > > > Psalm 8:5 For You have made him a little lower than the angels, > > Now you DO have me confused. Is that good or bad? Seriously: Which = way is > the "new seating arrangement"? Actually, it doesn't make one whit of a > difference to me, but do you mean that the congregation is above the = altar > because the altar has been brought down to the nave floor? Or because = the > 1880-1940 [new?] protestant fashion was for =B3theatre-style=B2 seating = above > the level of (even an elevated) altar (=B3up=B2?) front? (=B2First = Presbyterian > Church=B2 [1922-26?] in most cities is a good [and quite splendid=8Beven = if > shaped like an inverted bathtub] example.) > > Alan       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   -- _______________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143          
(back) Subject: Re: Amazin' Grace From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:57:09 +0800   Right, and for any "pop tune" you can figure out the number syllable = metrics and plug in the hymn words ... or vice versa which may be more = fun. ----- Original Message ----- From: RonSeverin@aol.com Subject: Re: Amazin' Grace   > 86 86 meter tells us the number of syllables per line of verse. It also =   > makes it > possible to substitute a different tune of the same meter to the = verses.   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   -- _______________________________________________ Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143          
(back) Subject: Organ Dedication Sunday in Cold Spring, New York From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 20:05:54 EDT   The Blessing and Dedication of the Pipe Organ   THE CHURCH OF OUR LADY OF LORETTO 24 Fair Street, just off Main Street Cold Spring, New York   Fr. Brian McSweeney, Pastor Frances Pergamo, Director of Music   Sunday Afternoon, 27 June 2004, at FOUR O'Clock   The Blessing of the Organ will be followed by three short musical = programs:   JENNIFER PASCUAL, DMA Director of Music, The Cathedral of Saint Patrick, New York City works by Domenico Zipoli, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and Felix Mendelssohn-Bartholdy   LANA KOLLATH Director of Sacred Music, St. Elizabeth Ann Seton Church, Shrub Oak, New = York work by Johann Sebastian Bach   SEBASTIAN M. GLUCK Builder of the organ works by Samuel Wesley, Georg Berg, Louis Vierne, and Diderik Buxtehude   A reception will follow in the Parish Hall. The Village of Cold Spring is known for its antique shops, boutiques, and restaurants, and is accessible by Metro-North Commuter Railroad. The = church is a short walk from the train station.   The stoplist of the instrument can be seen at http://www.glucknewyork.com = by clicking on the "Current Projects" link.   ..  
(back) Subject: IMPORTANT - Email to the list Problems From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:12:56 -0500   Folks   We have been apprised that it seems that certain members of the list have been unable to post to the list due to their emails being blocked by the SPAM filters on the mail server that gets the PipeChat mail before the List Server gets it. And that emails to either the Administration account or to my private account have also been blocked.   I'm sorry if this has affected some of you but due to the "pounding" that the list server gets without the spam filters I do need to keep them in place. However, I do have some ways of working around some of this filtering provided that I know where the problems are.   If you have been affected by this problems please let me know but in order to do so please do it as follows.   Send a note to the Administration Address <Admin@pipechat.org> with three CARBON COPIES, one to <david@blackiris.com>, the second to <dcscribner@earthlink.net>, and the third CC to <dcscribner1@mac.com> Even if the original note to the Admin address and the copy to my personal address are blocked I should get the other two at those "outside" addresses. But getting those I can see exactly when the mail server here received and bounced your email and then can track down in the logs what filter is causing the problem and to a "whitelist" to get around the problem of the filter.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org