PipeChat Digest #4315 - Monday, March 1, 2004 Re: from bad to verse by "Melisma" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Amens, Gibson's music and Holy Week Oratorio by "Paul Kealy" <email@example.com> St. Mark's in Grand Rapids by "Linda Kay Strouf" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas by "Thomas Belew" <email@example.com> Re: Walker by "Jim McFarland" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Walker by "David Scribner" <email@example.com> Re: from bad to verse by "Randolph Runyon" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Walker by "Christopher Howerter" <OrgelspielerKMD@msn.com> Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was by <Gfc234@aol.com> Re: Bob Walker by <RMB10@aol.com> Re: Walker by "Shirley" <email@example.com> 19th Annual "Organ-Fest" (crossposted) by "jch" <firstname.lastname@example.org> looking for Palm Sunday introit by "Fran Walker" <email@example.com> NU pedagogy, memorisation, et.al. by "james nerstheimer" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit by "Noel Stoutenburg" <email@example.com> Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit by <DudelK@aol.com> Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit by <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: North Texas State?=A0 ...really U niversity of North Texas by <Praestant@aol.com> Convergent worship...... by <MMccal7284@aol.com>
(back) Subject: Re: from bad to verse From: "Melisma" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:11:14 -0800 Um, I'm no poet, but how about: Second stanza, second stanza, Let them hear it in Bonanza... Melisma (diving back under her Rock as quickly as she can to avoid juicy rotten tomatoes :) ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Freed <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: PipeChat <email@example.com> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:05 PM Subject: Re: from bad to verse > On 2/29/04 1:04 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > > If we can't call a hymn stanza a verse, then how can we sing "Second verse, > > same as the first, / A little bit louder and a little bit worse"? You have > > all heard that, right? > > Right. I have. My case is destroyed. > > I heard it as "Same song, second verse; a whole lot [little bit] louder, but > a whole lot [little bit] worse." (Or something like that.) NOTHING = seems > to rhyme with "stanza." Contest for best entry? > > Alan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:email@example.com > Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:email@example.com > >
(back) Subject: Amens, Gibson's music and Holy Week Oratorio From: "Paul Kealy" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 17:25:06 -0800 Not quite ON topic, however, mixing two messages ... one about the music = of the Passion, and one about "Amens" ... I am one of those who sits in theatre until final credits have run (as = media producer, occasionally to have seen my name or company represented on = screen .... blush, blush). We got a kick out of the music running under the credits that was scored = to conclude as they ran the final screen over the singing of "amen," and indeed, for us who linger, Mel concluded his film with a final <amen.>. = And, yes, we did stand as it was played (heh!). One thing I did like abut the film, and I DID like it ... a lot, was the chorale sound of heightend victory as some of the most horid depictions of inhumanity was portrayed. It was an effective use of music to underscore triumph over tragedy in a way that cinema could not do as effectively without purposeful filmscoring. One thing I appreciated about the film was its, well ... passion ... something we Protestants glibly gloss over too often. Sometimes I hear rather bouncy renderings of such hymnal selections as <At the Cross> and = <At Calvary> with almost careless abandon to the text embodied in the music, and wonder if worshippers really understand the words they are singing. Hopefully = this film will add a new depth to those who partake of the cup and bread. One of my favorite works to conduct is <the Aronement> by Peters, *G Schirmer* an almost unknown Oratorio, but I like it for its portrayal of holy week. It features some great Scripturally textured vocal dialog with choral contrapuntal passages although ocassionally a bit Gilbert and Sullivan-ish at times. I especially like the Pilate, Christ and crowd interaction, a trio = rendering of the Last Supper, and duet of OT Prophet and Roman Soldier <Surety He = was the Son of God>. I purchased 60 copies myself just to insure I have it = when they began melting down plates at the Schirmer printshop years ago. Paul E. Kealy
(back) Subject: St. Mark's in Grand Rapids From: "Linda Kay Strouf" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:00:36 -0500 St. Mark's never got rid of their big Austin when the got the Bedient. I remember hearing the Bedient soon after it was put in (I live in Holland, = MI) and wondered how the heck you would accompany a congregation with that = tuning. They didn't....most of the time they continued to use the Austin for = service music and played the Bedient for voluntaries. Since the Austin was (still = is I think, but I'm not 100% sure) up front and the Bedient was in the = gallery it must have made for interesting treks up and down the stairs. I am looking forward to hearing the Walker in St. Mark's. Hope College = (in Holland, MI) got a new Walker 3-manual studio organ in 2000 that is = absolutely fabulous!!! If anyone is ever in the area I would be happy to show it to = you (I am on the music faculty teaching theory) and I know my colleague Huw = Lewis LOVES to demo the organ and let others play till their heart is content. = We also have a 1929 4-manual E.M. Skinner that is untouched and a 2-manual mechanical action Pels & van Leeuwen organ built in the Dutch 17th/18th = style in our chapel. I play a 3-manual Robert Sipe mechanical action at Third Reformed Church = and there is also a Harrison&Harrison in the Methodist church as well as the = usual larger Reuter, Schantz etc. Speaking of Hope College, the organ department there is most certainly NOT = dying. Huw has a studio of 14-16 every semester. This semester he is = away on sabbatical and Tom Bara (from Interlochen Arts Academy and previously in = MANY important positions) is teaching for Huw. We had two organ students = compete for music scholarships and many of the piano majors also study organ while = they are at Hope. It is one of the biggest studios at the college (it may = even be THE biggest). I think the only larger studios are the combined = voice studios, the combined piano studios and the combined flute studios. So if you want good solid organ study along with a liberal arts education = in a smallish (3000 students) school you might consider Hope College. <end of = paid advertisement> Linda Strouf Prof. of Music, Hope College Minister of Music, Third Reformed Church, Holland, MI
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas From: "Thomas Belew" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:05:42 -0600 Desiree: The Bedient at University of North Texas is installed in a large=20 auditorium along with a Moller from 1923/1949. The Moller was restored=20= a few years ago, and improvements made, some vintage stops added. They=20= restored the 1949 Moller combination action....they did not go to a=20 computerized action, and they said that it is one of the largest=20 combination actions in these parts restored to original condition. =20 This was Helen Hewitt's organ, as she was responsible for the 1949=20 version. The 1923 originally was quite orchestral in nature. Many of=20= the great organists have played concerts on this organ from 1949 on. =20 Wow! Imagine a duet with the Bedient! BTW I haven't heard the Bedient=20= yet. But I heard that it was LOUD! Also, a friend who knows the Grand=20= Rapids situation told me that the church hated the Bedient. I imagine=20= that it would have been a disaster in an Episcopal church. Thomas Belew Paris, Texas On Sunday, February 29, 2004, at 05:18 PM, T.Desiree' Hines wrote: > They got the Grand Rapids organ, eh? > =A0 > OMG The Grand Rapids organ did not last long at ALL! Was'nt that organ=20= > put in at St Marks within the last 15 years? I think the temperment = was=20 > just way too un-churchly. Be careful what you ask for, you just might=20= > get it! And now, they are contracting with Walcker to get a=20 > church-toned organ.=A0since thats the case that they got,=A0St Marks=20= > Bedient,=A0its a beautiful instrument the Bedient. But for church=20 > purposes, just the tuning is not per my liking. > =A0 > And yes, its a=A0 ncie and true French Classical organ...but where's = the=20 > well rounded instrument for=A0 the institutional learning of varied=20 > schools oif our instrument? And what about all that wonderful music=20 > from England, America, and France written since 1850? > > > > =46rom Desiree' > T. Desiree' Hines > Chicago, IL 60649 > http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail
(back) Subject: Re: Walker From: "Jim McFarland" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:11:15 -0500 Walker generally allows his representatives to handle the web work. Enter "Walker Technical Co+Organ" in a good search engine and you will come up with a number of hits - all sites put up by his reps. Jim On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:08:40 EST Keys4bach@aol.com writes: In a message dated 2/29/2004 6:40:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: Does anybody know if Bob Walker has a website? ( does not need one......but have no theard of one. dale in florida
(back) Subject: Re: Walker From: "David Scribner" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:40:26 -0600 >Does anybody know if Bob Walker has a website? (I'm speaking of Bob = Walker of >Walker digital organs - a brilliant man.) Shirley WELL - The Walker company does have a web site based towards their theatre organs and it is under construction - http://www.walkertheatreorgan.com/ But not much there right now. David
(back) Subject: Re: from bad to verse From: "Randolph Runyon" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:45:29 -0500 > I heard it as "Same song, second verse; a whole lot [little bit] louder, = but > a whole lot [little bit] worse." (Or something like that.) NOTHING = seems > to rhyme with "stanza." Contest for best entry? > > Alan How about... I could stand another stanza If it were sung by Mario Lanza. Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio email@example.com
(back) Subject: Walker From: "Christopher Howerter" <OrgelspielerKMD@msn.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 20:57:28 -0500 Dear Shirley, I know he has a website for theater organs, though not for anything else = to the best of my knowledge. Though, even that web page is scant. I = must say that this posting brings back memories as the first church I = was organist had a brand new Walker Tech. Digital Organ. It was III/59, = I think...or somewhere in that range. Also, his company is right in my = back yard (along with the Allen Organ World HQ)! LOL I don't believe = that it is any secret that he used to work for them, nevertheless, he = does superb work. I remember bringing in some people from Allen once = and showed this instrument to them, and they seemed quite amazed! = Indeed, I believe he makes the finest digital sound available, in my = opinion. The last time I saw him was when they brought a large three = manual into St. John's Allentown for a duo organ concert that was played = by Richard van Auken and Stephen Williams, a former teacher of mine and = list member. The organ was even better than the last, so it seems = everything gets better with age. Also, I must mention the people he has = build the consoles does absolutely gorgeous work; I know Colby is one of = them. Nevertheless, I hope my rambling has not been a bother, so I = shall now stop before I begin writing an epistle. :) Hope this helped. Cheers, Chris P.S. If you want his contact info, I can easily get that for you. Subject: Walker From: "Shirley" = <firstname.lastname@example.org<mailto:email@example.com>> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 18:39:38 -0500 Does anybody know if Bob Walker has a website? (I'm speaking of Bob = Walker of=20 Walker digital organs - a brilliant man.) Tnx. --Shirley
(back) Subject: Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:02:42 EST In a message dated 2/29/2004 5:12:51 PM Central Standard Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: Ok...Imma tell you what I heard. Someone who is a reliable source says that they questioned the musicality = of the students at NU once. They also said they finally cracked a whip and = some of them were so stressed they almost cried in lessons. After that, this = source says that the students were sounding fantastic. Even one of my former teachers said they would not feel comfortable sending me to NU unless = there was a change in pedogogical practices there. Where are the good, natural-borned, old fashioned teachers who are = primarily teachers and Sacred Musicians, rather than "wunderkinds" with DMA's and competition winners. I dunno...Im just making comments like always. Could it be the current pedogogical practices are warranting teachers to send us to other = programs? Desiree, I'm afraid that I must tell you to SHUT YOUR MOUTH. NO ONE EVER CRIES IN LESSONS-AND WE ARE ALL VERY MUSICAL, SCHOLOARLY, AND EXTREMELY HARD = WORKING. INFACT, I WOULD PUT NU STUDENTS AGAINST STUDENTS FROM ANY OTHER = UNIVERSITY-WE WOULD HOLD OUR OWN-THAT'S A PROMISE. IF THAT WEREN'T THE CASE, WE = WOULDN'T BE GOING TO SCHOOL HERE. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A BACHELORS DEGREE, AND I DON'T = APPRECIATE YOUR TALK ABOUT ME AND MY COLLEAGUES-YOU ARE SPREADING LIES, = AND RUMORS. STOP IT! AS FAR AS YOUR COMMENTS CONCERNING OUR WONDERFUL = TEACHER, YOU ARE TOTALLY OUT OF LINE! DOUG CLEVELAND IS A WONDERFUL TEACHER, = PERFORMER, AND VIRTUOSO-AND COULD SHOW YOU A THING OR TWO-HOW DARE YOU SPEAK OF HIM NEGATIVELY? YOU ARE WAY OUT OF LINE, AND I SUGGEST YOU STOP TALKING LIKE THIS, UNLESS = YOU WANT EVERYONE IN THIS TOWN TO START HATING YOU. TONE IT DOWN! gfc Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile email@example.com
(back) Subject: Re: Bob Walker From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:18:49 EST Shirley- No, Bob Walker does not have a website. I had a talk with both him and = the President (John Carpenter) of his company this past week. They both told = me that the reason they don't have one is that they have more work than they = can handle and that they just don't have time to field the requests for = information from people who are not serious. They are a company that works with organbuilders to provide extra voices or clients who want custom level = stuff, not "out of the box", but both John and Bob told me they have gotten calls from = people who said "I've got $5,000, what can you give me." That's why they don't = have a website. If you want information, give them a call. Their # is(610) 966-2515. They are happy to give you whatever info you want or need, but = you have to seek them out. Monty Bennett
(back) Subject: Re: Walker From: "Shirley" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 22:36:29 -0500 On 29 Feb 2004 at 20:57, Christopher Howerter wrote: > (along with the Allen Organ World HQ)! LOL I don't believe that it > is any secret that he used to work for them, nevertheless, he does > superb work. Allen? Really? I wonder if that was before or after he was servicing = Rogers, ca. 1967-1969. -s.
(back) Subject: 19th Annual "Organ-Fest" (crossposted) From: "jch" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:53:04 -0600 Today 1st Presbyterian Church of Arlington Hts., Il. presented its' 19th annual Organ Fest with seven artists performing on the 3m/39 rank 1972 Schantz Organ. Church Director of Music Leon Nelson opened the program with the remarks that "organ is alive and well at First Pres, unlike nearby Northwestern University which is shutting down its' organ program." He also pointed out = that five of the artists on the program studied at Northwestern. Petitions = urging continuance of the organ degree program at Northwestern were also available for folks to sign. The program which was listed below was well attended and the combined talents of the artists did well in showcasing = the attributes of this fine pipe organ. Prelude and Fugue in E minor(BVW 548).......J.S. Bach (1685-1750)..........................performed by Christine Kraemer Pavane...............................Robert Elmore. (1913-1985)...........................performed by Leon Nelson Fantasia (Op. 136)..............York Bowen (1884-1961)..............................performed by Merlin = Lehman Symphonie No. II, Opus 13...5. Adagio, 6. Finale..Charles-Marie Widor (1844-1937).....performed by William Aylesworth Intermission Adagio in E Major........................Frank Bridge (1879-1941) ......Partita: Wachat auf, ruft die Stimme ....Gerhard = Krapf (b 1924) = .................................................................performed = by Kirstin Synnestvedt Come,Sweet Death.......................................J.S. Bach/arr. Fox.................................................performed by Christopher Urban Amazing Grace....................................................Charles Callahan (b. 1951................Chuck Beech, piano; Christopher Urban, = organ Mass of the Pentecost IV. Communion of the Birds and Fountains......................................Oliver Messiaen = (1908-1992) Overture to William Tell..............................Gioacchino Rossini (1792-1868) ,,,transcribed for organ by Dudley Buck (1839-1909) .......performed by John Bryant Encore ....................Handel played by Merlin Lehman...singing a parody on "Mother's Hubbard's Cupboard" accompanied by Leon Nelson at the piano. A good time was had by all and the church was filled with folks who obviously enjoy hearing a good organ program. Jon C. Habermaas Lindenhurst, Il.
(back) Subject: looking for Palm Sunday introit From: "Fran Walker" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:40:52 -0800 Greetings everyone, Latest on NU Organ War: 2 articles plus a rebuttal article by the NU = Dean in 2/29 Chicago Tribune; good letters to editor in the suburban = newspapers. Enough, you must be tired of it. Any ideas for a Palm = Sunday Introit? Best, Fran Walker Organist, NS Methodist, Glencoe, IL email@example.com Buzard organ, tracker, 2 manuals plus 3rd "coupling manual" on the = bottom, 17 ranks, installed Dec. 2000. Feel free to contact me to try it out if you live in the area.
(back) Subject: NU pedagogy, memorisation, et.al. From: "james nerstheimer" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:05:41 -0600 Did I hear once correctly that NU students were REQUIRED to memorise their = senior recitals? Aside from the fact that I could never have afforded to attend there (some 40K/year), this would've scared me off as anything I = HAVE memorised is purely by accident! They did it that way at Drake as well. = My feeling is if you can memorise, do so, but one shouldn't be forced to. At = one of the Drake organ symposia I attended as a high-schooler back in the early 80's, we were treated to a program by some of Carl Staplin's = students. I was enjoying the ride down Bach's "Great" G-major when the vehicle suddenly veered off without warning onto an improvisatory side street. = The poor fellow had a brain-fart and had to find his way back to the road = QUICK! When Doug Cleveland played out here in DeKalb a couple of summers ago, = he used his scores for the entire program. There's still an organ program at NIU. It ceased to be a full-time one after Bob Reeves retired. Richard Hoskins of St. C's in Chicago comes out = once a week for 7 students. The school has three organs: 1968 Flentrop, 1974 Zimmer, and the still-marvellous 1983 Ott in the Concert Hall which = has yet to receive its Ruckpositiv=97a couple of 2x4's serving as the gallery "railing". The action here, as in the two smaller organs, is entirely mechanical which means you need a stop puller if you're to program = anything beyond Mendelssohn. Out and about town you'll find a couple of = Berghaus-er on the same block (1st Lutheran and 1st UMC), a very satisfying 3-manual Allen Renaissance with its thundering 32's and telephone-bell Zimbelstern (Bethlehem Lutheran), and up Normal Road at St. Paul's, our mighty Howell with its ROCKET LAUNCH 32's and magnificent TUBA will begin to sing again next Sunday (but not the Great yet until it's all back in). Yes, Devon, it's console time so hurry on over this week! jim O):^) _________________________________________________________________ Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super Tuesday. http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx
(back) Subject: Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:12:48 -0600 Fran Walker wrote: > Greetings everyone, > > Latest on NU Organ War: 2 articles plus a rebuttal article by the NU > Dean in 2/29 Chicago Tribune; good letters to editor in the suburban > newspapers. Enough, you must be tired of it. Any ideas for a Palm > Sunday Introit? From works of Palestrina, "Pueri Hebrorum" ["The children of the Hebrews, bearing branches of palm and olive, went out to greet the Lord, saying, 'Hosanna in the highest.'"] NU Music library should have a Palestrina Complete works edition from which this may be copied. ns
(back) Subject: Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:18:44 EST In a message dated 2/29/2004 11:26:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: > > > > What about the Hallelujah from Beethoven's Christ on the Mount Of Olives = or whatever that was called. Might be able to excerpt out part of it for an introit, assuming by introit you mean a short choral thing to start the = service as opposed to a "proper" liturgical introit. I don't know if it's published = but Nancy Plummer Faxon did a Palm Sunday thing we used to do when I was in = St. Louis. And there are probably a zillion things on All Glory Laud & Honor = that might work.
(back) Subject: Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit From: <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:39:52 -0800 Fran, did I flake out on you before I sent you the Holy Week music? Hosanna is not correct for the INTROIT, if you're in a liturgical church, or a non-liturgical one that has the first reading of the Passion on Palm Sunday. The liturgy of the Palms concludes with the final responsory at the end of the Procession, "Ingrediente Domino" ("When the Lord entered the Holy City"), which is the bridge between the palms liturgy and the first Mass of the Passion. The LITURGICAL Introit for Palm Sunday is "Domine ne longe" ("Be not thou far from me, O God"). If you're NOT reading the Passion on Palm Sunday, and the whole liturgy is centered on the Triumphal Entry, then "Hosanna to the Son of David" or "When the Lord Entered" would be OK. Did I send you that little anthem about Jesus being sad and riding on the donkey? It's a PERFECT text to connect the two halves of Palm Sunday. Heck, if they're Methodists, do "The Holy City" or "Open The Gates of the Temple", and they'll LOVE it (grin) ... I used to have the choir do one or the other for the prelude on Palm Sunday, before we started doing the blessing and procession outside. Cheers, Bud P.S. - I'll send those things I mentioned privately Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Fran Walker wrote: > >> Greetings everyone, >> >> Latest on NU Organ War: 2 articles plus a rebuttal article by the NU >> Dean in 2/29 Chicago Tribune; good letters to editor in the suburban >> newspapers. Enough, you must be tired of it. Any ideas for a Palm >> Sunday Introit? > > > From works of Palestrina, "Pueri Hebraorum" ["The children of the > Hebrews, bearing branches of palm and olive, went out to greet the Lord, = > saying, 'Hosanna in the highest.'"] NU Music library should have a > Palestrina Complete works edition from which this may be copied. > > ns > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Administration: mailto:email@example.com > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > > >
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State?=A0 ...really U niversity of North Texas From: <Praestant@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 01:13:51 EST In a message dated 29.2.04 6.06.30 PM, email@example.com writes: > I think something with dual temperments is nice, like the Pasi thats = going > in the Cathedral in Omaha. Pull a lever and boom! Another temperment. > Something is telling me that Stanford's Fisk/Nanney is this way too, = correct? > The Pasi is in. The different temperaments are selected with separate stop = actions, thus it's much simpler than the Fisk at Stanford. One wonders, if = this means one can draw the 8' Principal in meantone and the 4' in = welltempered? A whole new performance style!
(back) Subject: Convergent worship...... From: <MMccal7284@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 04:30:23 EST << Alan wrote: Still curious about "Chicago style," of course. What IS = it? >> Am going to venture a guess here, Alan. Back in the 1970s, something = called "The Chicago Folk Liturgy" (Folk Mass?) was published; its elements are = those of a Lutheran service (ELCA primarily). I no longer have a copy but can = still play many parts of it from memory as we used it a lot for a number of = years while I was there. Although contemporary in style, it's not one of those clang-bangy, rootin'-tootin', rip-snortin' sort of things and is actually = quite nice. (*That* from Ms. Traditionalist, Bach Freak Thang here.) We called it = simply the "Chicago Liturgy" and I believe the Greenville, Ohio church where I = played it a great deal still uses it once or twice a month for either early or = late service. Perhaps the person who posted originally about it can give more information than this, if in fact this is what was meant by "Chicago = style"....it's been too many years for me to remember publishing details, etc. - I just = play it for my own pleasure. LOL! It's also possible that this liturgy is *not* = what the original poster meant but this is what a "Chicago-style = service/liturgy" means to me. MaryLee