PipeChat Digest #4318 - Monday, March 1, 2004
 
Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Oprah Winfrey/White Sox organist
  by "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4317 - 03/01/04
  by "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@cox.net>
Chicago-style folk liturgy
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Convergent worship
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Chicago-style folk liturgy
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4316 - 03/01/04
  by "Paul Kealy" <kealypaul@mediaexcellence.com>
RE: Convergent worship
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: Oprah Winfrey/White Sox organist
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: North Texas State?  ...really University of North Texas
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
chicago style
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Convergent worship
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: chicago style
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree  program)(now
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: chicago style
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: chicago style
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: chicago style...off topic Mo Syn's
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: chicago style
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Allen Organ Model 314
  by "Milo R. Shepherd" <mrstwin2@cox.net>
Re: chicago style
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: Convergent worship
  by "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
Detroit Folk Mass
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:01:58 EST   Bud,   Thank you for the excellent clarification regarding the proper Introit for =   Palm Sunday.   It is possible that many liturgical churches (including many Roman = Catholic and even some Anglo-Catholic churches) seem to have blurred some = liturgical distinctions regarding Passion Sunday.   Not that I didn't believe you, but I had a good look in both Roman and = Sarum Rite sources. Essentially, they're identical. As I thought.   For fun, I pulled Dr. Titcomb's "Hosanna to the Son of David" from the library and there, at the bottom, is the first phrase from the plainchant = clearly labelled "First Antiphon, Palm Sunday Rite" (on which the motet is based). = I find this interesting, because after a little investigation into SJE = liturgical archives of the recent past I found that the "hosanna filio David" has = been mistaken for the Introit even at SJE Bowdoin St. Even when Dr. Titcomb's = setting has been used. I got a good chuckle out of that.   Bill H. SJE Boston    
(back) Subject: Oprah Winfrey/White Sox organist From: "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:29:38 -0600   I'm trying to get ahold of Oprah Winfrey (emailed her show; need to do more) to invite NU Dean Montgomery on her show & announce an organ scholarship. I also emailed White Sox Ball Park (US Cellular Field now) in the hopes of contacting Nancy Faust, their organist, who is extremely popular. Don't know if she got the email. If you know anyone who can track down her email address, can you let me know? Gregory, hope you're =   not irritated at this (does it seem "low down?") I figure we have nothing =   to lose.   Fran    
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4317 - 03/01/04 From: "Dennis Goward" <dlgoward@cox.net> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:14:43 -0700     ----- Original Message ----- From: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:02 AM Subject: PipeChat Digest #4317 - 03/01/04     PipeChat Digest #4317 - Monday, March 1, 2004   Re: PipeChat Digest #4315 - 03/01/04 by "GARY JENKINS" <gary.jenkins6@verizon.net>     Why, oh why, is it necessary to copy the ENTIRE digest into a reply?   D  
(back) Subject: Chicago-style folk liturgy From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:28:12 -0500   On 3/1/04 4:30 AM, "MMccal7284@aol.com" <MMccal7284@aol.com> wrote:   > Am going to venture a guess here, Alan. Back in the 1970s, something = called > "The Chicago Folk Liturgy" (Folk Mass?) was published; its elements are = those > of a Lutheran service (ELCA primarily).   THANK you, Mary Lee. I thought I had a fair grip on ELCA stuff in the = EARLY 70s (when we DID 12-string acoustic folk masses in my parish, every = Sunday), but perhaps I didn't, after 1974. Even if your recollections are sketchy, perhaps they'll jog someone else's memory on the subject.   Tnx again.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: looking for Palm Sunday introit From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:19:51 -0500   On 3/1/04 12:40 AM, "Fran Walker" <fwalker@northwestern.edu> wrote:   > Any ideas for a Palm Sunday Introit?   Fran: Text, music, or both?   Text suggestions:   Be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my Strength, haste thee to help me. Save me from the lion=B9s mouth: and deliver me from the horns of the unicorns. Ps.: My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me? Why art thou so far from helping me? =20 Gloria patri . . . .   Or   Blessed is he who comes in the Name of the Lord. Hosanna to the Son of David.   I=B9ll let someone better qualified suggest music. There=B9s tons of it.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Convergent worship From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:38:55 -0500   On 3/1/04 7:31 AM, "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> wrote:   >> Still curious about "Chicago style," of course. What IS it?   > I have never been to that service so I do not know how it goes. > OK. Mary Lee just posted something that may help. >> >> Do "really unchurched folks" have a particular fondness for "band = music"? >> (EYE do [have done tons of it], but I didn't know it was a particular >> favorite of "really unchurched folks." > > That is the prevailing notion around here. > Well, OK. >> >> What IS the function of a "video screen now intact"? What's it FOR? > > They project the words of the songs. Pretty soon there will be no need = for > hymnals.   Ah, I HAVE heard of that. But just the "words"? How do people know know the tune? And won't there be hymnals for the instrumentalists--so THEY, = at least, will know the tune and other parts? Any suggestions for our little old ladies who like to come early and study the hymntexts before the prelude? (Though we buried one of them on Saturday, so maybe it's a "passing" thing.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Chicago-style folk liturgy From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:40:35 -0600   At 10:28 AM 3/1/04, you wrote: > Am going to venture a guess here, Alan. Back in the 1970s, something = called > > "The Chicago Folk Liturgy" (Folk Mass?) was published; its elements = are > those > > of a Lutheran service (ELCA primarily).     Is this akin to the "Chicago Style Hot Dog" which is an acquired taste..   jch      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4316 - 03/01/04 From: "Paul Kealy" <kealypaul@mediaexcellence.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:47:56 -0800   Harry, great idea!   Any other "interpretive" ideas out there?   I like to go from C to minor key on verse 2 in *When I Survey the Wondrous Cross* ... (I announce or write in bulletin for people to flat the E,A,B to sing it "relatively" correct). People like it as it adds a more sombre significance to interpreting the text.   I'm interested to hear what others do to help the organ increase attention to the text.   Harry wrote: Sure, it catches the congregation out the first time you do it; but no-one complains when you're doing something appropriately interpretative - and they sure don't get caught a second time!   Paul E. Kealy      
(back) Subject: RE: Convergent worship From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:00:35 -0000   On the few occasions that this system has been used in my experience, = the tunes have been so trite and trivial that nobody needs the music! Video projectors seem to go along with the whole happy-clappy, chorus singing phenomenon. My niece attends such a church, and although I've never = been, (and don't intend to if I can help it); Ros went there a while ago. She = said her brain was numbed by the endless repetition of these choruses - she counted 11 repeats of one, and her legs were numbed by having to stand more-or-less continuously for about two and a half hours!   We had a little old lady like that- Marjorie by name - she passed away = on Saturday - her funeral is next Monday. On the other hand - we have = another LOL - (Little Old Lady) - nearly caught you there didn't I? - called = Nellie Carter, who reaches the age of 100 on 12th March. We are organizing a = really big tea party for her in the church Coffee Lounge. The Lord Mayor is = coming and everything! She has been a Methodist Local Preacher (Lay preacher) = since 1955 and STILL walks to church every Sunday!   Will Light Coventry UK       Ah, I HAVE heard of that. But just the "words"? How do people know = know the tune? And won't there be hymnals for the instrumentalists--so THEY, = at least, will know the tune and other parts? Any suggestions for our = little old ladies who like to come early and study the hymntexts before the prelude? (Though we buried one of them on Saturday, so maybe it's a "passing" thing.) =20   Alan        
(back) Subject: Re: Oprah Winfrey/White Sox organist From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:07:54 -0800 (PST)   Announce an organ scholarship at NU? So whats going on? Suprises?!   Fran Walker <fwalker@northwestern.edu> wrote:I'm trying to get ahold of = Oprah Winfrey (emailed her show; need to do more) to invite NU Dean Montgomery on her show & announce an organ scholarship. I also emailed White Sox Ball Park (US Cellular Field now) in the hopes of contacting Nancy Faust, their organist, who is extremely popular. Don't know if she got the email. If you know anyone who can track down her email address, can you let me know? Gregory, hope you're not irritated at this (does it seem "low down?") I figure we have nothing to lose.   Fran   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: North Texas State? ...really University of North Texas From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:12:51 -0800 (PST)   OH wonderful! Susan Ferre told me abou the Moller but I forgot. And she also told me = that the Bedient is LOUD and says that most Bedients are on heavy wind.   And yes, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. That organ is = not meant for church use. You need a romantic organ with steady wind and = equal or an even temperment. I think Paul Fritts is great with building = good temperments for mechanical organs. That's why my time at Pacific = Lutheran U showed me that trackers are not so bad when they are built with = freshness.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: chicago style From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:00:38 -0600   I thought maybe "Chicago-style" worship was like the pizza.......very = thick and heavy!   I'm not trying to start a religious war here, but somebody tell me what a "Missouri synod liberal" is. Perhaps it means within the confines of that denomination, but they are not notably liberal. The Mo Synod church in my home town calls the ELCA church "the fun Lutherans," and it is NOT a compliment!   To keep on topic, I guess we should all stick to our Principals!   Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats    
(back) Subject: Re: Convergent worship From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 13:24:53 -0500   On 3/1/04 1:00 PM, "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> wrote:   > we have another LOL - (Little Old Lady) - nearly caught you there didn't = I? -   Yes, as a matter of fact!   > called Nellie Carter, who reaches the age of 100 on 12th March. We are > organizing a really big tea party for her in the church Coffee Lounge. = The > Lord Mayor is coming and everything! She has been a Methodist Local = Preacher > (Lay preacher) since 1955 and STILL walks to church every Sunday!   How fabulous. Our equivalent to her is a retired actress, not QUITE that old. But if she's not in church we know that the snow is three feet deep, or that she's taken quite ill (which is darned rare, in spite of two hip replacements).   More power to Nellie!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: chicago style From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:44:44 -0800   Alan can speak to this better than I, but there are still a few liberals in the LCMS ... most decamped with the purge of the faculty at Concordia Seminary some years back. The principal LCMS in our area uses the ELCA Lectionary, and has had a more-or-less openly ... um ... you know ... organist for many years. They also practice open (gasp!) communion ... says so right in the bulletin (grin).   In my experience, the further one is from St. Louis geographically, the LESS likely one is to get in trouble on account of things like the above (grin).   I'M curious ... synod-switching by Lutheran parishes doesn't seem to cause the upheaval it does in Anglicanism ... does the property belong to individual churches, rather than the district or denomination?   Cheers,   Bud   First Christian Church of Casey, IL wrote:   > I thought maybe "Chicago-style" worship was like the pizza.......very = thick > and heavy! > > I'm not trying to start a religious war here, but somebody tell me what = a > "Missouri synod liberal" is. Perhaps it means within the confines of = that > denomination, but they are not notably liberal. The Mo Synod church in = my > home town calls the ELCA church "the fun Lutherans," and it is NOT a > compliment! > > To keep on topic, I guess we should all stick to our Principals! > > Dennis Steckley > & A Six-Pack of Cats > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: "Pulling Out all the Stops" (was ending NU organ degree program)(now x-p... From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:48:21 -0600   At least she only "diss'd" your one school - She also declared 2 whole states not "not ready for her". Try not to be offended - consider the source. It's just a highly opinionated newbie.   Northwestern has ALWAYS had a fine program with fine teachers and has produced many fine students. I find it shocking and horrifying that so many programs are being closed, not just in organ, but in all areas of the liberal arts - and not just at the college level - arts programs are disappearing in public schools, also. It is an unfortunate sign of our times - if it doesn't make money AND train people for a career that will make a lot of money, our current culture doesn't support it, doesn't believe they need it. And then they wonder why our society is losing its soul. Sad, sad times.   Margo       > YOU ARE WAY OUT OF LINE, AND I SUGGEST YOU STOP TALKING LIKE THIS, > UNLESS YOU WANT EVERYONE IN THIS TOWN TO START HATING YOU. > > TONE IT DOWN! > gfc > > > > > > > > > Gregory Ceurvorst > M.M. Organ Performance Student > Northwestern University > Director of Music and Organist > St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL > 847.332.2788 home > 708.243.2549 mobile > gfc234@aol.com <http://gfc234@aol.com/>        
(back) Subject: Re: chicago style From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 11:01:15 -0800   I forgot to mention that the same church (I think) still doesn't allow women to vote in Voters' Assembly, but the women COME to Voters' Assembly and sit with their husbands and give them a sharp elbow in the ribs if they even TRY to vote the way they think they shouldn't (chuckle).   Some years ago they suffered a season under an anti-liturgy, anti-music pastor (who has since left the ministry) ... they tried to reason with him; finally, Voters' Assembly rose up (led by their HUGE choir) and tossed him out on his ear (chuckle) ... this is a congregation where the old folks STILL come on Saturday and declare their intention to Pastor that they're going to receive Holy Communion on Sunday ... they're TERMINALLY traditional AND high-church as far as liturgy and music is concerned ... those of you who are on my music download list saw the ENORMOUS Good Friday Tenebrae service I wrote for them on commission.   Now that their calling procedure is somewhat more organized (parish profile, etc.), at the TOP of their Call Sheet is "DON'T MESS WITH THE MUSIC!" (grin) ... they're WONDERFUL people ... my friend has been there for 28 years, since he was sixteen, and they're devoted to him.   Cheers,   Bud   quilisma@cox.net wrote:   > Alan can speak to this better than I, but there are still a few liberals =   > in the LCMS ... most decamped with the purge of the faculty at Concordia =   > Seminary some years back. The principal LCMS in our area uses the ELCA > Lectionary, and has had a more-or-less openly ... um ... you know ... > organist for many years. They also practice open (gasp!) communion ... > says so right in the bulletin (grin). > > In my experience, the further one is from St. Louis geographically, the > LESS likely one is to get in trouble on account of things like the above =   > (grin). > > I'M curious ... synod-switching by Lutheran parishes doesn't seem to > cause the upheaval it does in Anglicanism ... does the property belong > to individual churches, rather than the district or denomination? > > Cheers, > > Bud > > First Christian Church of Casey, IL wrote: > >> I thought maybe "Chicago-style" worship was like the pizza.......very >> thick >> and heavy! >> >> I'm not trying to start a religious war here, but somebody tell me what = a >> "Missouri synod liberal" is. Perhaps it means within the confines of >> that >> denomination, but they are not notably liberal. The Mo Synod church >> in my >> home town calls the ELCA church "the fun Lutherans," and it is NOT a >> compliment! >> >> To keep on topic, I guess we should all stick to our Principals! >> >> Dennis Steckley >> & A Six-Pack of Cats >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> >> > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: chicago style From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:55:45 EST   In a message dated 3/1/2004 1:36:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, quilisma@cox.net writes:   > but there are still a few liberals > in the LCMS ...   actually, the Indiana conservatives have taken over LCMS and kicked out = the remaining St Louis conservatives----have you seen the stuff from CPH?   it is more conservative now than in the last 5 years.......   be a methodist--you can believe anything you want.   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: chicago style...off topic Mo Syn's From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 11:06:18 -0800 (PST)   Im not trying to be funny, but I guess a Mo Syn Liberal would be like = Cooperative or American Baptists...part of the name indicates one thing, = but their worship and views are very liberal, i.e. Same Sex couples. Do not stick to principals...add some reeds. Being cheesy after staff lunch       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail  
(back) Subject: Re: chicago style From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:30:42 -0500   Dear Bud, I guess between the lines I read that you are selling some music and hopefully getting paid handsomely for it I hope this prosperous line of = work continues for a long time. At least until you are 100. Sto Lat. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 2:01 PM Subject: Re: chicago style     > I forgot to mention that the same church (I think) still doesn't allow > women to vote in Voters' Assembly, but the women COME to Voters' > Assembly and sit with their husbands and give them a sharp elbow in the > ribs if they even TRY to vote the way they think they shouldn't = (chuckle). > > Some years ago they suffered a season under an anti-liturgy, anti-music > pastor (who has since left the ministry) ... they tried to reason with > him; finally, Voters' Assembly rose up (led by their HUGE choir) and > tossed him out on his ear (chuckle) ... this is a congregation where the > old folks STILL come on Saturday and declare their intention to Pastor > that they're going to receive Holy Communion on Sunday ... they're > TERMINALLY traditional AND high-church as far as liturgy and music is > concerned ... those of you who are on my music download list saw the > ENORMOUS Good Friday Tenebrae service I wrote for them on commission. > > Now that their calling procedure is somewhat more organized (parish > profile, etc.), at the TOP of their Call Sheet is "DON'T MESS WITH THE > MUSIC!" (grin) ... they're WONDERFUL people ... my friend has been there > for 28 years, since he was sixteen, and they're devoted to him. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > quilisma@cox.net wrote: > > > Alan can speak to this better than I, but there are still a few = liberals > > in the LCMS ... most decamped with the purge of the faculty at = Concordia > > Seminary some years back. The principal LCMS in our area uses the ELCA > > Lectionary, and has had a more-or-less openly ... um ... you know ... > > organist for many years. They also practice open (gasp!) communion ... > > says so right in the bulletin (grin). > > > > In my experience, the further one is from St. Louis geographically, = the > > LESS likely one is to get in trouble on account of things like the = above > > (grin). > > > > I'M curious ... synod-switching by Lutheran parishes doesn't seem to > > cause the upheaval it does in Anglicanism ... does the property belong > > to individual churches, rather than the district or denomination? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bud > > > > First Christian Church of Casey, IL wrote: > > > >> I thought maybe "Chicago-style" worship was like the pizza.......very > >> thick > >> and heavy! > >> > >> I'm not trying to start a religious war here, but somebody tell me = what a > >> "Missouri synod liberal" is. Perhaps it means within the confines of > >> that > >> denomination, but they are not notably liberal. The Mo Synod church > >> in my > >> home town calls the ELCA church "the fun Lutherans," and it is NOT a > >> compliment! > >> > >> To keep on topic, I guess we should all stick to our Principals! > >> > >> Dennis Steckley > >> & A Six-Pack of Cats > >> > >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > >> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >> List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Allen Organ Model 314 From: "Milo R. Shepherd" <mrstwin2@cox.net> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:40:06 -0500   I am trying to locate manuals for the Allen Organ Model 314. Is there = anyone out there that might have owner or technical manuals for it?   Thanks    
(back) Subject: Re: chicago style From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:46:20 -0500   OK, folks here's the scoop. It's "Chicago Folk Service", composed by Al = Gorman and introduced in 1988. It is still in print and is published by = Augsburg-Fortress. There is an accompaniment version as well as a congregational version.   So if someone talks about "Chicago-style" worship, this may be what = they're referring to.   FYI: There is also a "Detroit Folk Mass", by James H. Harris (Composer) ; = Tillis Butler (Arranger) whose release date was January 1, 1992 .     --Shirley          
(back) Subject: Re: Convergent worship From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 13:50:33 -0600   Most people can only tell if a melody line goes up or down. James Grebe Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair Artisan of Wood WWW.JamesGrebe.com 1526 Raspberry Lane Arnold, MO 63010 pianoman@accessus.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: Re: Convergent worship     > On 3/1/04 7:31 AM, "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> wrote: > > >> Still curious about "Chicago style," of course. What IS it? > > > I have never been to that service so I do not know how it goes. > > > OK. Mary Lee just posted something that may help. > >> > >> Do "really unchurched folks" have a particular fondness for "band music"? > >> (EYE do [have done tons of it], but I didn't know it was a particular > >> favorite of "really unchurched folks." > > > > That is the prevailing notion around here. > > > Well, OK. > >> > >> What IS the function of a "video screen now intact"? What's it FOR? > > > > They project the words of the songs. Pretty soon there will be no = need for > > hymnals. > > Ah, I HAVE heard of that. But just the "words"? How do people know = know > the tune? And won't there be hymnals for the instrumentalists--so THEY, at > least, will know the tune and other parts? Any suggestions for our = little > old ladies who like to come early and study the hymntexts before the > prelude? (Though we buried one of them on Saturday, so maybe it's a > "passing" thing.) > > Alan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Detroit Folk Mass From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:51:55 -0500   I led you astray, I did.   The Detroit Folk Mass pew edition debuted in 1989. It's the Accompaniment =   version that came out in '92.   Sorry.   --Shirley