PipeChat Digest #4336 - Thursday, March 4, 2004
 
Conservatory styled programs in Major cites
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
To Desiree
  by "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net>
Re: Conservatory styled programs in Major cites
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Conservatory styled programs in Major cites
  by <Praestant@aol.com>
RE: Singing from a Jumbotron
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
About Robert J. Powell
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Doug Cleveland
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Happy Clappy
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Wedding Music for Solo Singers
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Conservatory styled programs in Major cites From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 21:10:06 -0800 (PST)   Peabody Juilliard Blair School at Vanderbuilt San Fran Con Curtis (Stop organ undergrads at 23) Cincinati CCM...is'nt Cincinati still in racial tension? That plays a part = ya know. I am an African-Ameican Woman who plays the PIPE Organ. Where are = most pipe organs? ANd that's why I left Mississippi. I even remember very = vividly during the summer of the yer 2000 that a white church had a family = there. That family wanted to bring their black friends to church. In the = year 2000, people, this white church Beulah Baptist Church of Florence, MS = told their members that black people were not welcomed. This was in the = year 2000! The story ws all in the news in Jackson and on the front of = every MS newspaper. and one of my colleags told me it was probably a = matter of time before I would apply for jobs and...well you get the drift. =   Ah well, I will find somewhere.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=92re looking for faster.  
(back) Subject: To Desiree From: "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:28:14 -0600 (CST)   Please stop your posts that imply Doug Cleveland is not a dynamic teacher, or that the NU program can be saved by so-and-so. It is irresponsible and approaching libelous.   Have you even heard Doug play or taken had a lesson or attended some master class situation? Do you know of what you speak?    
(back) Subject: Re: Conservatory styled programs in Major cites From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2004 21:39:39 -0800       T.Desiree' Hines wrote:   > Peabody > Juilliard > Blair School at Vanderbuilt > San Fran Con > Curtis (Stop organ undergrads at 23) > > Cincinati CCM...is'nt Cincinati still in racial tension?   Nope. Well, no more than any OTHER large city. And the University is FAR away from all that. They just don't like gay people (chuckle), though they're trying to repeal that Charter Amendment ... it's cost them MILLIONS in lost convention revenue.   Oberlin is certainly close enough to Cleveland since the freeways were built, and the organs can't be beat with a stick ... Holtkamp and Flentrop practice organs, Flentrop, Fisk and Brombaugh concert organs; David Boe and James Christie are EXCELLENT teachers.   CHURCH JOBS within driving distance of Oberlin aren't GREAT, or at least they USED to not be. I don't know about now.   Church jobs in Cincinnati are mostly the pits ... VERY low pay.   Cheers,   Bud          
(back) Subject: Re: Conservatory styled programs in Major cites From: <Praestant@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:31:00 EST   In a message dated 4.3.04 12.14.04 AM, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes:   > In the year 2000, people, this white church Beulah Baptist Church of > Florence, MS told their members that black people were not welcomed. > In the year 2004, a man who was not elected president is throwing his = support behind the desecration of the U.S. Constitution to institutionalize discrimination, to constitutionalize a second class of people. A vote for = any Republican is a vote for bigotry, racism and heterosexism. I share your = shock, Desiree', but I am not at all surprised.    
(back) Subject: RE: Singing from a Jumbotron From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 23:53:09 -0600   > & back to that whole "happy-clappy" thing: what, are Christians > supposed to be the "Frozen Chosen?"   Oh this is great!!! I GOTTA remember this one!!! :D   Jeff  
(back) Subject: About Robert J. Powell From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:55:38 EST   Composer Robert Powell    
(back) Subject: Doug Cleveland From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 00:17:37 -0600   To say nothing of the final result of his teaching: his very fine = students!! I was most impressed with the four I heard in June of last year. He is = also a genuinely nice person, and he doesn't sit in some ivory tower. I can't tell you how many recitals I've attended recently (Wheaton, Winnetka, Evanston, Kenilworth quickly come to mind) that he also attended. In = Wheaton I was most pleased to see how affable three heads of organ departments = were after a recital: Craig Cramer (recitalist), Steve Wente (from Concordia, River Forest), and Doug.   Robert Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: terry hicks <Terrick@webtv.net>   > Please stop your posts that imply Doug Cleveland is not a dynamic > teacher, or that the NU program can be saved by so-and-so. It is > irresponsible and approaching libelous. > > Have you even heard Doug play or taken had a lesson or attended some > master class situation? Do you know of what you speak?      
(back) Subject: Re: Happy Clappy From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 22:31:36 -0800 (PST)     > Hello, > > Well it just shows how badly I write things! > > Actually, I am the total revolutionary in religious > matters, and keep hoping that "mother church" might > yet demythologize, de-reomanticise and > de-historicise. > > In my INVESTIGATION of the "happy clappy" > phenomenon, > all I have ever come across is the religious deceit > of > mutton dressed as lamb, or is it old wine in new > pots? > > I care NOTHING for tradition, but I certainly don't > want to idle away my time listening to medieval > beliefs re-invented as "relevant" or "God centered," > when they clearly are not. > > Of course, as a musician, I could syncopate a Bach > Fugue and make it quite a "happening" thing....but > would it be bad Bach or bad jazz? > > Of course there are going to be some wonderful > people > clapping away out there, but I just wonder how they > expect to connect by singing "folksy" songs and > acting > like adults in the throes of a mid-life crisis! > > I just think the church, more or less across the > western world, has lost confidence, and now retreats > into that which is cosy and warm, secure and > nonthreatening. > > Nothing wrong in that of course, but ultimately, it > is > inward looking and self obsessed.....isn't that a > kind > of religious narcissism? > > That was the excuse for ridding the churches of > organists and choirs in the first place! > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > > > > > --- Charlie Lester <crlester@137.com> wrote: > It seems > > to me > > that the writer of the quoted post is himself > rather > > bereft > > of humility. The phrase "contempt prior to > > investigation" > > comes to mind. > > > > > I'd rather "Happy Clappy" any day over sitting in > a > > cold, > > dark, somber, mausoleum-esque church     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=92re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Wedding Music for Solo Singers From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 02:00:20 EST   Wedding Music for Solo Singers   Introducing the Music of Organist/Composer DALE G. RIDER, MSM, CAGO White Harvest Music Corporation Independence, Missouri WhiteHarvstMusic@aol.com (write for further information & prices)   Medium to High Range Scores for Solo Singer and Organ   *Establish A House - Even a House of Prayer *Every Good and Perfect Gift *Marriage Admonition (Can Two Walk Together Except They Be Agreed?) *Submit Yourselves to One Another *Trilogy: Sing a New Song / / Benediction *Vision of Love (I Beheld A Tree; This Tree is the Love of GOD)   Dale G. Rider earned the Master of Sacred Music degree at Wittenberg University, Springfield, Ohio, 1973, where he was Graduate Teaching = Assistant in Organ Performance/Literature, Organist for daily worship at Weaver Chapel, =   studied composition with Jan O. Bender, harpsichord with Trudy Faber, and = organ with Dr. Frederick F. Jackisch. Dale Rider, a Colleague of the AGO, has subsequently been a Staff Organist in Independence, Missouri at Community of Christ (formerly = 'RLDS') denominational world headquarters Auditorium and Temple; a Dean of the = Greater Kansas City Chapter, American Guild of Organists; and is a Life Member of the = Hymn Society in the United States and Canada.