PipeChat Digest #4348 - Saturday, March 6, 2004
 
Re: Illuminated stop controls
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
Re:Illuminated stop controls
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Monty's New Ruffati
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: console apparati and cool stops
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: console styles
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Selective expression and "infinite frustration"
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Certain Organ apperiti and their first appearances.
  by "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net>
Re: Illuminated stop controls
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Illuminated stop controls
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Illuminated stop controls
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
RE: Illuminated stop controls
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
RE: Welcome to PipeChat?
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Historic Goodies Just Found... (Xpost)
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
RE: second touch/double touch and stuff that works
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
RE: second touch/double touch and stuff that works
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
Re: A hymn story and a concert
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: second touch/double touch and stuff that works
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Automatic Pedal question
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Re: Automatic Pedal question / melody coupler question
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Illuminated stop controls From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:44:42 -0800   They could use white LEDs...   Vern   noel jones wrote: > > Sebastian: > > "Console gimmickry has reached spectacular heights, and while such > things might be desirable for effects in VERY complex services that > border on theatrical productions, there really is not an abundance of > literature written for such things. I believe that the great organ > literature, and much of the liturgy of the mainstream denominations, was > conceived for organs of limited gadgetry. > I would rather direct the funds toward a more elegant case, an > additional stop, the extension of a short-compass stop to full range, or > higher quality materials in the keyboards or pipe metal. Or maybe even > putting it into the maintenance endowment for the instrument" > > What funds, Sebastian? The lit controls of many builders, including > Rieger of Austria, are a cost-savings. > > Cost-savings, no matter how grandious the amount, cannot be spent. But > you know that. > > If the stop controls of a certain manufacturer bother you because of the > time and expense getting at the little tiny bulb to repair it why not > complain to the manufacturer rather than exposing it as a public > issue... Why complain? I did in November of 2002 and in January 2003 > they announced a new drawknob, lit, that can quickly and easily be > re-bulbed from its face... > > I know that you will be especially pleased to learn that these > drawknobs, like all lit drawknobs used by Rodgers, are manufactured for > Rodgers and the entire Pipe Organ Industry, which means you too, by = Syndyne. > > -- > noel jones, aago > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re:Illuminated stop controls From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:50:28 EST   >Theres a big Wicks console in CA with 5 manuals and tilt tabs.   That's the organ at South Shores Church that is a Walker digital organ = that Wicks built the console for and Walker Technical all did the digital = voices.   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: Monty's New Ruffati From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 07:56:45 EST   In a message dated 3/6/2004 12:33:11 AM Eastern Standard Time, = RMB10@aol.com writes:   > and for the right use--not to bring me glory, but to give God glory   wait a minute here,   you are going to tee people off talking like maybe we should be doing = worhsip instead of expecting it....   are you trying to stir things up again?   <G>   dale/ric    
(back) Subject: Re: console apparati and cool stops From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:19:01 EST   >> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ruffatti never used light up stops that I >> know of.   >Only lighted thumb- and toe-pistons, from what I can recall.   Ruffatti still uses lighted pistons and toe-studs. We're going to have = them on the new organ. They're quite handy on a large instrument to remember = when you've pressed "General 14" and "Swell 3" and "Celestial 6" and "Solo 2" = and "Grand Choeur 4". I've played some organs that have little read-out = screens that tell you what pistons have been pushed, but in the heat of the = moment, it's easier to see a piston than to be glancing all over a console looking for = the little screen.   As to making messages in lighted drawknobs, back in the mid-1990's, I was = a Baldwin artist along with two friends of mine, and we were sent on the = road doing three organ concerts. One of the organs we used in our concerts was = their big 5 manual organ that had enough knobs to make designs in the jambs. I = had programmed that organ to have smiley faces on one piston and then sad = faces on another. If any of you have a copy of the promotional video of the = concert that was produced of the performance that we did at Calvary Church, you = can see the smiley faces and other designs in the lightup drawknobs.   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: console styles From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 08:48:43 EST   >If Monty is concerned with keeping the console profile low (what is it, 5 =   >manuals?) perhaps Ruffatti should bring back the style of rocker tab = console >they used to build? I think these looked rather elegant.   I talked about this with Francesco and Piero, but it wasn't going to save = me much in height--about an inch or so, so I opted to just go with deawknobs. = If it was going to save me 2-3", I would have gone with the rocker tabs on = the side. I personally like the rocker tabs on the side, but I think that on = a large organ, congregation members sort of expect to see drawknobs. We = currently have a 4 manual drawknob console, so I was faced with the question of = "will they understand that this is a larger organ if they don't see drawknobs?" = They think that the 52 rank organ we have now is huge--it's nickname around the =   church is "The Beast"-- so little do they know what they've got in store = for when the new organ comes!   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: Selective expression and "infinite frustration" From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 00:28:21 -0500   Dear Sebastian and List,   In 1972, when I was Organist/Choirmaster at St. Paul's Cathedral, London, Ontario, 45 of us took off for London UK (25 treble boys and 20 men, many = of them teens who had grown up in the choir) where we sang for an August week at St. Paul's Cathedral, while their gang were on holiday. We sang nine services during that week (including two morning services on the final Sunday and an Evensong that day). I should really try to total up the = number of verses of Psalms we sang. It was astonishing, and included the dreaded 15th day of the month when the longest possible portion is required. = Someone might come up with the number of that Psalm - I am still in New Orleans without resources. My work on that trip was conducting and rehearsing everything. Three Organists shared out the accompaniments. We had the building to ourselves once it closed for the evening at something like 7 p.m. We spent lots of time on the Psalms, you can be sure, and I realized, in talking with, and watching our three Organists, all good friends of the choir's from Canada, one attached to our Cathedral, that that Willis Swell pedal mechanism might well have been conceived for the gorgeous sort of pictorial Psalm accompaniment the Organist traditionally does, coloring = the words. It is possible to "feather" the Swell pedal, for lack of a better term. Just a little touch and release to the top of the pedal would give = and hold a subtle crescendo, possible in any degree up or down. This would = mimic the speed at which you moved, as well as the degree. I tried this myself during one of our long nights with the Organ after the choir had rehearsed for the next day and gone on to the hotel. This was in the days of the old console, hidden from view in a phony little Positif case on the south side of the quire. Now, the console is on the north side, and in view of those seated in quire on the south side. There was a little door in this = enclosure that could be opened to give some sense of the direct sound of the choir. = It was not ideal, but the English are quite used to this, having consoles completely out of view, and a choir that could accurately intuit what was needed in every way. Sometimes, the head boy on each side would start something like a Psalm verse with just a finger movement. Anyway, it was = the feeling of the three playing for the Psalms that the system really served them well for that kind of accompaniment, for whatever that is worth.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Certain Organ apperiti and their first appearances. From: "James Grebe" <pianoman@accessus.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 09:25:14 -0600   This company built the St. Louis Worlds Fair organ in 1904 in Festival = Hall. They, also, were a forerunner of Robert Morton organs.At that = time it was billed as the world's largest organ, After storage for a = few years Wanamakers bought it and started their enlargement further. James Grebe Piano-Forte Tuning & Repair Artisan of Wood WWW.JamesGrebe.com 1526 Raspberry Lane Arnold, MO 63010 pianoman@accessus.net ----- Original Message -----=20 From: OMusic@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 10:57 PM Subject: Re: Certain Organ apperiti and their first appearances.     Isn't the Los Angeles Art Organ Company the one that started the = Wanamaker? Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: Illuminated stop controls From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 10:17:17 -0600   "John L. Speller" wrote: > I'm told that G. Donald Harrison of Aeolian-Skinner, when he came across > lighted drawknobs on large instruments, used to set the combinations to > spell out obseen words in lights.   I had been told that it was Ernest M. Skinner to whom this act of = vandalism was attributed to. It sounds more like something HE would do. GDH was = too much of an "English gentleman" to do something that crass.   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS  
(back) Subject: Re: Illuminated stop controls From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 16:37:34 +0000 (GMT)   Dear list, If this has never been mentioned before I would be amazed, but Compton organs of the 1930's were using illuminated double touch push button stops - elegant and convenient, particularly on the vast instruments like Hull Town Hall and Southmapton Guildhall (classical console.) On the countless occasions I have played them I have never known a light bulb fail. You could usually choose from two power levels -bright or dim (which I don't think was a reflection on the organist's abilities) and they also had a double touch cancel facility which you could have on or off. It's best in the off position, otherwise you could get a nasty surprise, though useful in the Franck Chorales. They are still working today on some instruments, over 70 years after they were installed. I did criticise the illuminated imitation light up "drawstops" on a recently produced elctronic instrument, which brought forth howls of protest from a couple of dealers, who, whilst agreeing with my criticisms, pointed out that they had to sell them. I really doubt that any comment I might make would have the slightest influence on any purchaser, though manufacturers might be influenced by opinions voiced on this media if they are justified. It was not a bad electronic organ - apart from the stops, quite an elegant console and no better or worse sound that most of the "mass produce" competition, as opposed to the custome built instruments. Perhaps they might improve this aspect of the design - maybe the old Compton system could be revived? John Foss   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topic of the week : The American Elections     ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html  
(back) Subject: Re: Illuminated stop controls From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:59:06 -0500   John, that takes me back to my school days, for I went to the regent = Street Polytechnic, where the School Assembly was held in the next door Polytechnic News Theatre.   There was a Compton organ installed there, and I remember the lighted stop =   tabs. Mr. Hough, the Music master normally played it for Assembly, - but sometimes he would deputise the job to one of his pupils. It was on that instrument that I learned to play, in a very amateurish fashion, the = School Song, and the hymns that accompanied Assembly.   I lost that job, because I once really let rip on "Onward Marching Soldiers", or was it "For all the Saints"? Whichever, I recall the Head asking Mr. Hough to tone it down, and was somewhat surprised to find that it wasn't "Huffy" playing!   That organ is still there, although the last time i tried to get into the Hall the porter wouldn't let me even go through the door! Of course, the old "Poly" is now the University of Westminster, - it has gone up in the world, - or has it?   Bob Conway   At 11:37 AM 3/6/2004, John wrote: >Dear list, >If this has never been mentioned before I would be >amazed, but Compton organs of the 1930's were using >illuminated double touch push button stops - elegant >and convenient, particularly on the vast instruments >like Hull Town Hall and Southmapton Guildhall >(classical console.) On the countless occasions I have >played them I have never known a light bulb fail. You >could usually choose from two power levels -bright or >dim (which I don't think was a reflection on the >organist's abilities) and they also had a double touch >cancel facility which you could have on or off. It's >best in the off position, otherwise you could get a >nasty surprise, though useful in the Franck Chorales. >They are still working today on some instruments, over >70 years after they were installed. I did criticise >the illuminated imitation light up "drawstops" on a >recently produced elctronic instrument, which brought >forth howls of protest from a couple of dealers, who, >whilst agreeing with my criticisms, pointed out that >they had to sell them. I really doubt that any comment >I might make would have the slightest influence on any >purchaser, though manufacturers might be influenced by >opinions voiced on this media if they are justified. >It was not a bad electronic organ - apart from the >stops, quite an elegant console and no better or worse >sound that most of the "mass produce" competition, as >opposed to the custome built instruments. Perhaps they >might improve this aspect of the design - maybe the >old Compton system could be revived? >John Foss > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >www.johnfoss.gr >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ >Topic of the week : >The American Elections > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" >your friends today! Download Messenger Now >http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: RE: Illuminated stop controls From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 11:43:34 -0600   Act of vandalism?   It's nice to know hyperbole is alive and well.   Michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Richard Schneider Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 10:17 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Illuminated stop controls     "John L. Speller" wrote: > I'm told that G. Donald Harrison of Aeolian-Skinner, when he came across > lighted drawknobs on large instruments, used to set the combinations to > spell out obseen words in lights.   I had been told that it was Ernest M. Skinner to whom this act of = vandalism was attributed to. It sounds more like something HE would do. GDH was = too much of an "English gentleman" to do something that crass.      
(back) Subject: RE: Welcome to PipeChat? From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:47:39 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Dear Ken, Don't stay away. It's a fine list. I joined it to chat and even post anecdotes and "job histories" on topics which are somewhat out of place on the other = list, and winded up posting some technical stuff and learning a lot of new exciting things here. Yeah, sometimes funny topics come up, but this should be no reason to leave. What's the "delete" button for?   <Happy Grins> Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken <mewzishn@optonline.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:51 PM Subject: Welcome to PipeChat?   > On 5 Mar 2004, at 12.29 PM, Praestant@aol.com wrote: > > > Is he also Jewish and a Nxxx > > I just rejoined this list after a lengthy time away, and this is what I > find. Perhaps I should have stayed away.      
(back) Subject: Historic Goodies Just Found... (Xpost) From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:45:22 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   In these days of "House Arrest" I ruffled through two big folders of old papers, letters, programs etc for a research I am doing. I found following goodies that might stir up some memories on some List members:   *Recital announcement May 16 1982*: Konrad Voppel, Organist & Director of Sacred Music, Duisburg, West Germany, at Trinity Lutheran Church...   [Which Trinity LC?, I asked myself. The organ gave the hint: Von Beckerath 1956... Aha. Cleveland, OH!]   From the comments about this organ (which, BTW is mentioned in O. Ochse's = US organ history):   ...."It was the first large modern organ in North America designed and = built on historic principles..." ...."The chief advantage of tracker action is the greater control it gives the organist through its direct linkage from keyboard to pipe. This type = of action allows the Organist to feel what is beeing played, and also to hear what is beeing played instantaneously". ...."The organ is dedicated to all who have contributed in any way to the Trinity Parish heritage of fine music, especially to the memory of Henry = J. Markworth, who for more than three decades was musical director of the congregation-..."   Mr Voppel's recital was given at the Silver Anniversary Series of the church. The program was: J.S. Bach, Fantasy & Fugue in G minor BWV 542 J.P. Sweelinck, "Mein Junges Leben hat ein End' ", 6 variations Carlos Seixas, Toccata in b flat major W.A. Mozart, Fantasy in f minor KV 608 G.A. Mushel, Aria & Toccata from an organ suite on Usbekish folk melodies Milos Sokola, Toccata from the "Suite for Organ", 1957 J.S.Bach, Prelude & Fugue in E minor BWV 548   +++++++ *Program of an Organ Recital by Mr Voppel at Riverside Church, NY (Yes, = THE Riverside Church!): "Music At Riverside" every Sunday Afternoon at 2,30 P.M.; Season = 1973-1974 *Organ recital January 20* (Yes, but what year?- A look at the Calendar Software revealed that is was Anno Domini 1974)   W.A. Mozart, fantasia in f minor KV 608 G Frescobaldi, Capriccio Pastorale C. Franck, Choral [#2] in b minor -Intermission- Alfred Kalnins, Pastorale in G major Sigfrid [sic] Karg-Elert, Perpetuum Mobile Anonymous 16th Cty, Resonet in Laudibus J.S. Bach, Toccata Adagio & Fugue in C Major BWV 564   Interesting was the Music Staff list of The Riverside Church at that time: Frederick Swann, Director of Music and Organist Robert Mac Donald, Associate Organist - Choirmaster Betty Jackson King, Director of Church School Music James R. Lawson, Carilloneur Karen McFarlane, Music Administrative Assistant Anthony Bifano, Chief, Organ Maintenance -The Riverside Choir, Louise Natale and Anne Cleaves, Resident Soloists.   More about Mr. Konrad Voppel (a really outstanding organist, now retired) later...   Cheers Andres    
(back) Subject: RE: second touch/double touch and stuff that works From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 13:10:54 -0500   I don't know about recently, but WURLITZER used to include a suitable bass piston on their consoles.   Tom Hoehn, Organist Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes, Ellenton, FL (substitute - 4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/9?- = Rodgers/Ruffati/Wicks) Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 1:46 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: second touch/double touch and stuff that works       On 6 Mar 2004, at 12.59 AM, james nerstheimer wrote:   > Also, has anyone aside from Ruffatti in recent years included > Automatic Suitable Bass? (They call theirs Proper Automatic Pedal.)   And if you're not careful how you play when it is engaged, you can get a P.A.P. Smear.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org            
(back) Subject: RE: second touch/double touch and stuff that works From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 12:30:20 -0600   At 12:10 PM 3/6/04, you wrote: > don't know about recently, but WURLITZER used to include a suitable = bass >piston on their consoles.   I believe that was a late edition. The only one that I came across was on = a 1930 Balaban III in the Nortown Theatre in Chicago. That was the Belshaw organ in Colo. which Michael Coup now has.   jch    
(back) Subject: Re: A hymn story and a concert From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 14:18:01 -0500   On 3/5/04 11:21 PM, "OMusic@aol.com" <OMusic@aol.com> wrote:   > I am sure Mr. Wechler may have more to say on this.   I wish, but I think he=B9s been down south. But YOUR report was most appreciated TOO. You sound like you guys are having a MOST WONDERFUL and full life!   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: second touch/double touch and stuff that works From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:22:46 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve     james nerstheimer <enigma1685@hotmail.com> wrote:     > I am curious as to whether or not the employment of second touch was ev= er > used in anything other than theatre organs (aside from the Atlantic Cit= y > Convention Hall organ).   I cannot answer this question, but future church organs might need it (pl= us some Hope-Jones goodies more) to accomplish with modern church music. Everyday I wish more and more I had an original Mighty Wurlitzer in my parish church (outside our II/24ger) to accompany the charismatic chants which are more and more demanded by the folks there :(   > There seems to be quite a movement toward the French terraced style of > console these days. Ascension in Chicago got one of these recently. Nicely > done, but the stop jambs are straight and not angled in toward the play= er.   For many stops they must be curved in horseshoe fashion. A. C-C and Walck= er did so.- French terraced has one advantage: The organist knows at once wh= ich stops belong to which division.   > Speaking of European style consoles, I have fond memories of the Steinmeyer > I used to spend hours at when in stationed in Schweinfurt, Germany in m= y > Army days. This was a 1951 vintage of some 60 ranks in the Johanneskirche. > This was the only organ I encountered that I could successfully glissan= do on > the pedals! They depressed only about 1/8".   I won't be "a pick" here, but was it really that little? Must have been v= ery uncomfortable. Average pedal travel is 3/4", altough there are no fixed rules about that.   > The combination system consisted of four "Freie Kombination" pistons, = one > red "Ausl=F6ser" piston, and above each rocker tab, four mini-drawknobs which > you could not only use to set your pistons, but also to manually regist= er > while in "piston mode". There would be this satisfying and quiet "clun= k" > from somewhere deep inside the console when the system engaged. The th= ing > worked flawlessly in 1985 when I was there. A finely crafted console t= o be > sure.   Yes, that all is so typical german! And thanks for the "Mercedes feeling" remark (snipped out here), although BMW would have fitted better- Steinme= yer is a bavarian firm <G>   > If I'm not mistaken, there is a big Steinmeyer in Altoona, PA. from the > early 30's and still in original condition. Hey, if it ain't Baroque, don't > fix it!   It's in the Cathedral of the Blessed Sacrament RC, 1930, restored 1990-92= .. A very comprehensive description of the organ and its history plus well mad= e comments are in the OHS Organ handbook 2003, pgs 128 - 133.   Cheers Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.        
(back) Subject: Automatic Pedal question From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 15:23:10 -0400   Andres gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Now that the "Automatic Pedal" is discussed: Can someone tell me when this device was invented- and by whom?   Thanks in advance Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Re: Automatic Pedal question / melody coupler question From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:46:34 -0800   Robert Hope-Jones, I think. It was called "Suitable Bass" or "Suitable Pedal", and it added or subtracted stops from the Pedal to "match" whatever manual upon which it was drawn.   Now ... does anybody know how the E.M. Skinner "Solo to Great Melody" coupler worked? There were MECHANICAL-action "Sostenuto Bass" couplers as far back as Mason & Hamlin reed organs, but I don't think I've ever seen an explanation of how the Skinner coupler managed to pick out the highest note being played.   Cheers,   Bud   Andr=E9s G=FCnther wrote:   > Andres gunther > agun@telcel.net.ve > > Now that the "Automatic Pedal" is discussed: Can someone tell me when = this > device was invented- and by whom? > > Thanks in advance > Andres > = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > First was the cat, then was the Orgler. > The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about. > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >