PipeChat Digest #4355 - Monday, March 8, 2004
 
Kudos to every builder/designer
  by "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com>
Re: Disney Hall organ appearance / Sound
  by "Ken" <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Re: OK, here's a fun question:
  by "Ralph Cullen" <rcullen@paradise.net.nz>
Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Listers in LA area
  by "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net>
Re: Listers in LA area
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Terraced tab jambs, was:Illuminated stop controls
  by "Larry Wheelock" <llwheels@mac.com>
RE: Kudos to every builder/designer
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Memphis Kimball
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by <reedstop@charter.net>
Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
RE: Ugly
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Kudos to every builder/designer
  by "Ken" <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
RE: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by <reedstop@charter.net>
Ye Olde Pizza Joynt
  by "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net>
RE: Ugly
  by "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Disney Hall organ appearance
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
RE: Ye Olde Pizza Joynt
  by "rusczyk@ix.netcom.com" <rusczyk@ix.netcom.com>
 

(back) Subject: Kudos to every builder/designer From: "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:43:26 -0800   From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>   =3D-> Kudos to every builder/designer who's clever enough to make a nice-looking case with a visually pleasing facade. <-=3D     Horrifying though this revelation may be, sometimes organ builders have no say in "making a nice-looking case." Sometimes --- OFTEN-times --- they are subject to the master architect of the project who may or may not stipulate that the organ will be encased, or that a chambered organ may be fronted with facade pipes. And sometimes even the architect must defer to the wishes of the client. For better or worse.   It's simply not enough to say, "Kudos to every builder/designer who's clever enough to make a nice-looking case with a visually pleasing facade" and, as it follows, "Razzberries to every builder/designer who's stupid enough to make an ugly case with a visually offensive facade."   The organ at hand is an ideal example. How much input do you suppose Rosales and Gladder-Gotz had into the appearance of the Disney Hall organ case?? If you think they had ANY input at all, then you are naive about the way that Frank Gehry works.   I am among those who have seen the organ first-hand. I still have mixed feelings about it. As someone else said, it does not look as out of place as it does in photos; however, its vaguely disturbing visual effect is nonetheless something that will take some getting used to.   I've been thinking about more practical concerns than what it LOOKS like --- e.g., wondering how well the organist will be able to HEAR the instrument. The "en fenetre" console is tucked away and kinda buried under all those careening wooden facade pipes and the infrastructure that holds them in place, as well as a set of en chamade trumpets.   Too bad that a second, detached console couldn't have been provided. I have a feeling it's gonna be a real challenge to sit up in there and try to play along with the orchestra or a choir.   What we organists should try to keep in mind is a sense of perspective about it. The organ is just one of many elements that comprise this new and, may I say, very enchanting place.   I remember one of the people on the Disney administrative team who coordinated my [theremin] gig there saying that "When people walk in to the building for the first time, they are overcome by how beautiful it is -- a lot of people actually burst into tears." That's very true. While I didn't "burst into tears," I certainly was very moved and overwhelmed by the very beautiful, serene space. It's impossible to put its "spiritual" ambiance into words. You just have to experience it for yourself.   The point is that for many people, the organ is just one of many things to focus on. And despite its size and controversial appearance, a lot of people don't even seem to notice it.   There's a web site put up by the construction company who built the hall that has with hundreds of photos. There are details of welding joints, sections of the building being lowered into place by huge cranes, airborne views of the building's "skeleton" taking form, etc. But not a single "feature" photo of the organ! It does appear in some of the photos but only incidentally. To hear some of us organists talk, you'd think the organ is the ONLY thing in there -- or, at least, the only thing that warrants our attention!   btw The Disney organization has a new website with some excellent photos of the hall -- see http://wdch.laphil.com/wdch/home.html   ~ C      
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance / Sound From: "Ken" <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 13:44:09 -0500     On 8 Mar 2004, at 8.27 AM, ScottFop@aol.com wrote:   > but my first reaction to the photos I have seen is that it looks like > it's been blasted by artillery fire and that it is melting and pulling > apart from itself.   Careful, you'll give away Gehry proprietary design secrets.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY    
(back) Subject: Re: OK, here's a fun question: From: "Ralph Cullen" <rcullen@paradise.net.nz> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2004 07:44:52 +1300   Not Australia!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Check it out Ralph Cullen New Zealand At 01:20 PM 3/8/2004 -0500, you wrote: >I wouldn't mind not having electricity if the organ came with it's own = bevy of >nubile female organ pumpers. > >That reminds me of the movie "The Piano" where a square piano sits >neglected on >a stormy beach in Australia for months without getting the slightest = damage. >LOL! > >Nelson > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:53:04 -0800 (PST)   Well Thank You Stephen! Im glad we are in accord. After all, as organists, there are so many = things some of us disagree on, but when we boil down, there is always = something that we will have in common. It also goes to show that there is = someone else out there that is in favor of things that challenge. And thats so ture. If you look at the building, and the interior, I don't = think that any other design could be called optimum. It looks like the = room was build around the organ, just the way we encourage, or some of us = do. Are you going to National LA? If so, sign up for the workshop on the = Disney Organ. Im going! I can't wait.       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=92re looking for faster.  
(back) Subject: Listers in LA area From: "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:58:52 -0600 (CST)   I am moving to LA on March 15 to begin duties as music director at a church. If you are in that area, please email me privately...I'd like to make contacts. Thanks.    
(back) Subject: Re: Listers in LA area From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 11:00:02 -0800 (PST)     Congratulations Terry!   terry hicks <Terrick@webtv.net> wrote: I am moving to LA on March 15 to begin duties as music director at a church. If you are in that area, please email me privately...I'd like to make contacts. Thanks.   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=92re looking for faster.  
(back) Subject: Re: Terraced tab jambs, was:Illuminated stop controls From: "Larry Wheelock" <llwheels@mac.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:15:20 -0600     On Mar 8, 2004, at 4:01 AM, Monty Bennett wrote:   > There's > also an early Ruffatti in Beloit, WI, and I'd assume it's probably got > tilting tablets, too.   Yes - it has.   Larry Wheelock Director of Music Ministries Kenwood United Methodist Church Milwaukee, Wisconsin musicdirector@kenwood-umc.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Kudos to every builder/designer From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:21:18 -0000   But it HAS Charlie! I've seen photographs of the detached stage console, with terraced drawknobs. Looks brilliant too!   Will Light Coventry UK     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Lester     Too bad that a second, detached console couldn't have been provided. I have a feeling it's gonna be a real challenge to sit up in there and try to play along with the orchestra or a choir.        
(back) Subject: Memphis Kimball From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:45:04 -0600   Yes, I've seen Marlin Mackley's photos of the Memphis Kimball, too. For those that haven't, go to: http://home.earthlink.net/~marlinmackley/kimballh2o.html     Dennis Steckley   Every gun that is made and every warship that is launched, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed--Dwight Eisenhower        
(back) Subject: Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:52:59 +0000   Steve, I don't mean to be so negative. It just doesn't "do it" for me = visually speaking. Just like I don't like the look of certain new cars, = or a building that may be different, etc. In this case, it looks like = that organ suffered an accident, is all I'm saying. But more importantly, = if it sounds good, I'll be happy. It just doesn't have the majesty and = dignity I think a pipe organ should have.   By the way, what determines if a pipe organ looks like a church organ? = That's like saying "design me a car that doesn't look like a car." Or a = piano that doesn't look like a church piano. A pipe organ is just that. = And I've seen a multitude of different facade cases, so I don't think = there is a "general" rule for church organs. What a curious statement.   Jeff   > the design of the Disney organ is truly inspired, as forward looking as > the unique design of the building, completely in keeping with Frank > Gehry's architectural planning. It's always surprising how the > reaction to something different can be so strongly negative.    
(back) Subject: Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:30:47 -0800 (PST)   Jeff, I really appreciated the way you handle your disapproval of the = design of the Disney organ.You do it very tastefully and without driving a = stake thru an organists back. Some people have just given very adamant and = nasty dissapproval for that organ. Your comparison of it to a car is nice. See, basic cars don't do it for = me. Cars that add to someones personal appeal and personality do. I'd much = rather drive a canary yellow Nissan coupe decked out with a mean sub = woofer to blast out Beyonce Knowles (and of course, the 32 bombardes) as I = drive down Chicago's Michigan Avenue, more than a grey Cadillac. The = Disney organ does it for me and Stephen, and "does it not" for some Anyway...we each have cars that we like and don't like, food that we like = and don't like, etc. AND...Organs we like and don't like. To sum it up, you very tastefully gave your dissapproval, and its = appreciated. As for what makes a church organ "look" the way it does, I dunno.It was = just stated to all of us who attended the AGO Seattle convention and in = the CB Fisk records that the people at Beneroya Hall did not want the = organ to look like a church organ. I'm thinking that anything with a = design that is, say...werkprinzip, or nothing with angels adorning it or = cathedral-looking. Im guessing that there is a concert hall look and a = worship space look. Let's ask some builders! I wished everyone would apply this car analogy to everything in the field = of organ music...what one person likes, another person may like it even = better...or may dispise it. But its OK to like things that are different, = and you should be able to do so without others being nasty to you because = you bend from the norm.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=92re looking for faster.  
(back) Subject: RE: Ugly From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:39:16 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I forgot the ugliest in all the world!   Leeds Parish Church, here in the UK.......described by one organ historian as, "That weird mass of carving."   The organ sits, like a riotous, wooden Buddhist shrine, without a single organ pipe being visible. It is like a great Gothic waterfall in black stained pine, but at leats contains a very large and noble instrument containing pipework by (wait for it).... Hill, Abbot & Smith, Schulze, Harrison & Harrison, Wood Wordsworth and A J Carter...I may even have missed half a dozen builders out.   The pedigree and appearance may be chequered, but it is a really very fine instrument of, perhaps, 110 ranks or so.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK             __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what you=92re looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Kudos to every builder/designer From: "Ken" <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 16:02:26 -0500     On 8 Mar 2004, at 1.43 PM, Charlie Lester wrote:   > Too bad that a second, detached console couldn't have been provided.   http://www.agohq.org/2004/venues.html   Scroll to the bottom, far right picture. Remote console.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY    
(back) Subject: Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 17:08:34 -0500   Hi I should dig through the archives and pull up my comments on the Disney = organ from a couple of years ago. <chuckle!> My opinion hasn't changed. I = like it.   It's DISNEY!!!! Really, come on! This organ isn't designed to appeal to = the traditional organ crowd at all. Instead, it is designed to pique the imagination of _children_!!! You know, the next generations of organists. =   Look at it from the perspective of Disney animation. In the Disney = cartoon movies, everything is scewed out of "normal" perspective because this = appeals the the imagination of young children; it get's their attention, grabs = their eyes, lives in their imagination. The "not rightness" about the animation =   gets their attention. Haven't you seen the Disney animations of "Beauty = and the Beast" or "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves", or at least enough of = the shots from them to get the idea? Where's your sense of play?   The funky, strange little wooden pipe "organ" that Grumpy played in "Snow White" is the first one that I remember as a child and that image captured = my attention for a lifetime! Grumpy smiled as he played and everyone had a = grand time. Ol' Grumpy made music that was fun for everyone. I believe this = organ is designed to do the same thing and on an even grander scale because it really is a pipe organ!   > Steve, I don't mean to be so negative. It just doesn't "do it" for > me visually speaking. Just like I don't like the look of certain new > cars, or a building that may be different, etc. In this case, it > looks like that organ suffered an accident, is all I'm saying. But > more importantly, if it sounds good, I'll be happy. It just doesn't > have the majesty and dignity I think a pipe organ should have.   This one is not about majesty and dignty at all nor is it designed for us older farts. This one is about imagination and fun and play for the = children. It's a big world. I hope there's room for all kinds! And I hope that = this organ is very successful and heard often by millions! If it is, it will = go a long way for keeping our cherished king of instruments alive for the = future.   Anyway, I'd much rather that children remember this organ rather than the dreary, dusty one that the dead undertaker mournfully plays in the Haunted =   Mansion.   Cheers, Tommy Lee Whitlock    
(back) Subject: RE: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 16:12:32 -0600   You're assuming that's what Gehry had in mind when he designed the hall that bears Walt Disney's name. The donors probably wouldn't agree with you, but the architect might give it a wink.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of TommyLee Whitlock Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 4:09 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance   Hi I should dig through the archives and pull up my comments on the Disney organ=20 from a couple of years ago. <chuckle!> My opinion hasn't changed. I like=20 it. =20   It's DISNEY!!!! Really, come on! This organ isn't designed to appeal to the=20 traditional organ crowd at all. Instead, it is designed to pique the=20 imagination of _children_!!! You know, the next generations of organists. =20      
(back) Subject: Re: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 22:13:39 +0000     > Jeff, I really appreciated the way you handle your disapproval of the = design of the Disney organ.You do it very tastefully and without driving a = stake thru an organists back. Some people have just given very adamant and = nasty dissapproval for that organ.   Aww, shucks, Desiree', t'weren't nuthin. :)   But really, I appreciate that you'll let me say I don't like something = without needing to wear the asbestos undergarments.   But then, I'm one that likes to see tastefully arranged facades. I hate = it when they hide all of the pipework. Just like in handbells, the visual = can be just as appealing as the aural.   Anyway...have a great week! Jeff      
(back) Subject: Ye Olde Pizza Joynt From: "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:34:51 -0800   The plexigalss shades must be a fairly recent addition. My memory is syanding in front of the wooden shades with the tall glass window in the center to see inside the chamber...limited side to side vision. Are we = sure that there is an unenclosed 32'? I know that there were the bottom 12 of the 16' Tibia against the south wall of the restaurant by the parking lot door.   Glad to know that restoration is in the works.   Ye Olde Pizza Joynt was my introduction to the pipe organ in 1963!   Mark S. Towne Sub-Dean, Southern Nevada Chapter American Guild of Organists   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Jan Nijhuis Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:52 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: organ as weapon/Disney     For your fun and colors, you may need to go to the Organ Stop Pizza in = Mesa, AZ. They use the painted 32' Diaphone as a colorful "calling card" = viewable from the street in a glass enclosure at the front of the building. The = pipes can be seen at http://www.organstoppizza.com/welcome.htm, though a night-time picture would make them "pop" more. (Cobbled-together 4/65+ Wurlitzer.)   The fries may have to wait, but anchovies might bring about the requisite salt intake.   Anyone else know of such examples.   Ye Olde Pizza Joynt in Hayward, CA, (Don Thompson's old haunt) just put every pipe behind plexi-glass swell shades, and suspended the percussions from the ceiling (Ok, there was a 32' scale scattered about the restaurant too. Sadly the Joynt burned-out a while back. They organ is in restoration as the owners are activily searching for a new console as they rebuild.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "james nerstheimer" <enigma1685@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:23:43 -0600 To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: organ as weapon/Disney   > Colin wrote:   > Disney Hall does look like just pain fun! If it were me, I'd have used just > a bit more tin in the case though and had the wooden pipes painted in bright > primary colours, and added a large mobile full of notes and symbols = which > would give a cartoonish effect of music emerging from the instrument. > > It's strange, every time I see that instrument I get this odd craving = for > something with french fries.   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: RE: Ugly From: "Stanley Lowkis" <Lowkis@theatreorgans.com> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:05:02 -0600       -----Original Message----- From: Colin Mitchell <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>     > Hello, > > I forgot the ugliest in all the world! > > Leeds Parish Church, here in the UK.......described by > one organ historian as, "That weird mass of carving." > > The organ sits, like a riotous, wooden Buddhist > shrine, without a single organ pipe being visible. It > is like a great Gothic waterfall in black stained > pine, but at leats contains a very large and noble > instrument containing pipework by (wait for it).... > Hill, Abbot & Smith, Schulze, Harrison & Harrison, > Wood Wordsworth and A J Carter...I may even have > missed half a dozen builders out. > > The pedigree and appearance may be chequered, but it > is a really very fine instrument of, perhaps, 110 > ranks or so.     Here it is on the web hulking like a Darth Vader..   http://www.leedsparishchurch.org.uk/organ/organwhole.htm     Is this a U.S. facade a contender? :)   http://www.allenorgans-nyc.com/images/Bus%20Trip%202002/AOC%20Var%20&%20Ste= ve%20leaning.jpg     Stan      
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Hall organ appearance From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:17:18 -0500   After careful study, It seems to me that the only thing missing from the Disney Hall design is a Gilded Double Proscenium.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!  
(back) Subject: RE: Ye Olde Pizza Joynt From: "rusczyk@ix.netcom.com" <rusczyk@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:44:42 -0500   Sounds like much confusion here=2E The "Joint" never had plexiglass shades, only two smaller sets of regular Wurlitzer shades with a viewing window between them=2E Also the only pipes outside the chamber (in the listening area) were the 12 bottom notes of the Tibia (16 foot octave) on the south wall to the west of the entry door as=20 noted below=2E     Original Message: ----------------- From: Mark & Cinda Towne mstowne@concentric=2Enet Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 14:34:51 -0800 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: Ye Olde Pizza Joynt     The plexigalss shades must be a fairly recent addition=2E My memory is syanding in front of the wooden shades with the tall glass window in the center to see inside the chamber=2E=2E=2Elimited side to side vision=2E A= re we sure that there is an unenclosed 32'? I know that there were the bottom 12 of the 16' Tibia against the south wall of the restaurant by the parking lot door=2E   Glad to know that restoration is in the works=2E   Ye Olde Pizza Joynt was my introduction to the pipe organ in 1963!   Mark S=2E Towne Sub-Dean, Southern Nevada Chapter American Guild of Organists   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg [mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg]On Behalf Of=   Jan Nijhuis Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 12:52 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: organ as weapon/Disney     For your fun and colors, you may need to go to the Organ Stop Pizza in Mes= a, AZ=2E They use the painted 32' Diaphone as a colorful "calling card" viewa= ble from the street in a glass enclosure at the front of the building=2E The p= ipes can be seen at http://www=2Eorganstoppizza=2Ecom/welcome=2Ehtm, though a night-time picture would make them "pop" more=2E (Cobbled-together 4/65+ Wurlitzer=2E)   The fries may have to wait, but anchovies might bring about the requisite salt intake=2E   Anyone else know of such examples=2E   Ye Olde Pizza Joynt in Hayward, CA, (Don Thompson's old haunt) just put every pipe behind plexi-glass swell shades, and suspended the percussions from the ceiling (Ok, there was a 32' scale scattered about the restaurant=   too=2E Sadly the Joynt burned-out a while back=2E They organ is in restora= tion as the owners are activily searching for a new console as they rebuild=2E   ----- Original Message ----- From: "james nerstheimer" <enigma1685@hotmail=2Ecom> Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 20:23:43 -0600 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: organ as weapon/Disney   > Colin wrote:   > Disney Hall does look like just pain fun! If it were me, I'd have used just > a bit more tin in the case though and had the wooden pipes painted in bright > primary colours, and added a large mobile full of notes and symbols whic= h > would give a cartoonish effect of music emerging from the instrument=2E > > It's strange, every time I see that instrument I get this odd craving fo= r > something with french fries=2E   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email=2Ecom   -- ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail=2Ecom http://promo=2Email=2Ecom/adsfreejump=2Ehtm   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E