PipeChat Digest #4362 - Thursday, March 11, 2004
 
RE: Strange phenomenon - Gluey, glazed flaking rubber cloth
  by "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net>
Kimmel design
  by "Christopher Howerter" <OrgelspielerKMD@msn.com>
Re: Kimmel design
  by "Ken" <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Re: electronic stops
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Kimmel design
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Strange phenomenon - Gluey, glazed flaking rubber cloth From: "Wm. G. Chapman" <wchapmn@attglobal.net> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:01:58 -0500   Stan: =20 Short answer: Expect things like exposure to photochemical smog or hydro-carbons (exhaust from a burner of some kind) and then a little = heat and the rubber will continue to vulcanize--the bonds become brittle and = then the cloth self-destructs. Sulfur is often the big culprit here. =20 Grant Chapman West Point   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Wuxuzusu@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 9:58 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Strange phenomenon - Gluey, glazed flaking rubber cloth     Greetings, =20 We just encountered a very strange phenomenon in an organ we service. = The rubber cloth in the curtain regulators and wind sleeves has liquified sometime in the past, become gummy and/or hard as in glazed. In a few curtain regulators, the rubber cloth on the rollers became either tacky = (as in nearly dried syrup on a table) and/or crisp and flakey as a wet-then-dried roll of newspaper. What appears to be a tar-like = substance has run off the rubber cloth socks and partly down the wind line. This run-off is very hard, almost like dripped, dried shellac. The rubber = cloth in the static curtain reservoir as well as in all chamber regulators was affected. Rubber cloth that was covered with black tape was not = affected.=20 =20 What could have caused rubber cloth to become this glazed, easily broken piece of cloth? The heads of steel tacks used to hold this rubber cloth = in place are covered with a cream white colored chalky substance. The = insides of the metal windlines do not seem to have been affected. =20 Help please!?!? =20 Stan Krider      
(back) Subject: Kimmel design From: "Christopher Howerter" <OrgelspielerKMD@msn.com> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 23:34:41 -0500   Dear List,   I remember seeing this organ during the 2002 National Convention of the = AGO. Indeed, some of the chamades actually are on an angle, pointing = down to the stage. Obviously, those won't speak, as they could most = easily offended quite a few orchestra members. Wouldn't that be = interesting if they fell! That reminds me of the Reiger organ in Seoul, = Korea that has plexi-glass right below the chamades so they don't fall = and hit the organist, of course that still doesn't take care of the = orchestra. Are we starting to see a trend here...oh well, they are = union members after all... :-)   Sincerely, Christopher J. Howerter, SPC (who running and hiding while anxiously = awaiting a posting from Sebastian concerning the addition of a 32' = Walker digital stop) <g> Subject: Re: Kimmel design From: <TubaMagna@aol.com<mailto:TubaMagna@aol.com>> Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 10:20:56 EST   The organ facade actually tips out into the room... a bit scary = for those=20 more comforted by verticality. I do not know how much input the organbuilder had, and how much = the=20 hall's architect dictated the design.  
(back) Subject: Re: Kimmel design From: "Ken" <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 00:46:36 -0500   On 10 Mar 2004, at 11.34 PM, Christopher Howerter wrote:   > I remember seeing this organ during the 2002 National Convention of=20 > the AGO.=A0 Indeed, some of the chamades actually are on an angle,=20 > pointing down to the stage   According to the photographs I've seen, the Kimmel center has no=20 chamades. Has it been added recently? There is a horizontal trumpet on=20=   the Great stoplist, but perhaps it's like the one on the L.A. R.C.=20 cathedral, behind the facade.   I'm puzzled as to where the tracker console will go -- directly below=20 the front of the case? further into the seating area under the organ?=20 Either way it's going to be a good distance away from the organ itself.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY=    
(back) Subject: Re: electronic stops From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 06:50:26 +0000 (GMT)   If he lives in Italy, Ahlborn are on his doorstep and he could get an affordable solution with an Archive. He will need a good amplifier and speakers, though I am sure Ahlborn could help on that, too. With the Classic he will get two 32's and several other goodies such as a Corno di Bassetto, Fanfare Trumpet, 16, 8 and 4 Bombardes, a Principal chorus, gemshorn and celeste, etc. Visit their web site. I have one - it's excellent - frankly at 32' almost better than the real thing! The only questionable stop is the Fanfare Trumpet, where the synthesis is more easily susceptible to aural analysis, though it still makes quite a good noise. One hell of a sight less expensive. I paid 650 Euros for one delivered to my door in Greece less than a year ago. Excellent service, too. John Foss   "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@prairieinet.net> wrote: I've had an inquiry from a colleague in Italy who would like to have a digital 32' stop added to the pipe organ at his church and is wondering where to start. He thinks that it seems to be more prevalent over here and would like some advice. Can anyone help?   Mark     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topics of the week : American Politics The Burning Bush Formula 1     ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html  
(back) Subject: RE: Kimmel design From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 09:09:50 -0000   Looking at the website, I didn't notice anything to say that it would be = a tracker action - seeing that floating or "hanging from the roof" design, = I immediately assumed that it would have a detached, stage console, with electropnematic action.   Will Light Coventry UK     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Ken Sent: 11 March 2004 05:47 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Kimmel design   On 10 Mar 2004, at 11.34 PM, Christopher Howerter wrote:   > I remember seeing this organ during the 2002 National Convention of=20 > the AGO.=A0 Indeed, some of the chamades actually are on an angle,=20 > pointing down to the stage   According to the photographs I've seen, the Kimmel center has no=20 chamades. Has it been added recently? There is a horizontal trumpet on=20 the Great stoplist, but perhaps it's like the one on the L.A. R.C.=20 cathedral, behind the facade.   I'm puzzled as to where the tracker console will go -- directly below=20 the front of the case? further into the seating area under the organ?=20 Either way it's going to be a good distance away from the organ itself.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org