PipeChat Digest #4366 - Saturday, March 13, 2004
 
Re: open organ discussions OK
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
Re: OK, here's a fun question:
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Lenten rules
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
RE: CD sheet music
  by "Ron Troop" <ronnymn@frontiernet.net>
Re: Gesualdo: Sacred Music for Easter
  by <DERREINETOR@aol.com>
Re: OK, here's a fun question:
  by <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com>
Re: CD sheet music
  by "Kenneth L. Sybesma" <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Choir Tour through Connecticut, NYC
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
Re: Gesualdo: Flagrante delicto
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Choir Tour through Connecticut, NYC
  by "Kenneth L. Sybesma" <mewzishn@optonline.net>
Sacramento Organs
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: announcing a new group
  by <Myosotis51@aol.com>
Re: Sacramento Organs
  by "David Carter" <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: open organ discussions OK From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:18:04 -0600   Paul,   Sacramento is my hometown. There are some great organs in town! 1 or 2 Ruffati organs, Holtkamp, Hammer, a few large Moller's. My FAVORITE organ is the Schlicker in Blessed Sacrament Cathedral on K St downtown. Awesome accoustic ... gutsy little 2 manual! Check with the office ... they are very open to visiting organists. -)   Tim   ----- Original Message ----- From: <kealypaul@mediaexcellence.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:54 PM Subject: open organ discussions OK     > Although some complain of discussing church music style on this list, it is > good to share the variety of worship style, because there IS a variety = of > style out there. > > I am writing from a hotel in Sacramento, CA, on a workshop speaking tour > from San Francisco through the Central counties. I appreciate knowing of the > various installations out there as I have opportunity to visit and hear > various organs. > > Because I read of Charlie Lester's organ ministry, I was able to visit = his > church awhile back, and fortunately I chose a day where he presented an > afternoon organ concert I was able to attend. This list made that > outstanding concert, as well as his performance in worship possible. = That > was an unforgettable day. His worship was actually crowded with worshippers > who participated in an eclectic variety of the music Charlie presented. = I > believe that, other than Charlie, I was the only white boy in the audience, > but this here Irish boy was warmly welcomed by the entire congregation. > > It was good to see his influence at work. I never would have known of = that > without this Internet discussion. Because of my Internet friendship with > Alan Freed, I was able to meet him in the theatre district of Manhattan, and > play his organ at St. Luke's. It was a highlight of my New York tour, = and it > was because of Internet discussion. > > I don't expect to agree with all the divergent views, and I know others = do > not agree en toto with mine, but I am grateful for the opportunity to learn > from this forum. > > Listening to pipe organs on a music system can be good, but they were = not > created for that. Pipe organs are a coherent part of an acoustic space, and > although theatres and concert halls may feature such an instrument, = there is > no guarantee of hearing the instrument speak (some actually limit the organ > to exit music - what a tragedy). I have sat in the Wanamaker organ for a > noon concert, but that instrument does not seem to receive any respect = for > what it is or represents in music today. > > Churches, on the other hand, can house great installations, and = basically in > performance on a regular basis. Attending worship there may or may not > guarantee its role in the service as churches scrap organs for a > contemporary service formats; they may or may not be heard in worship or > performance, so it is good to know the worship role of the organ in advance. > > Because of this list I am able to discover and discern and develop a healthy > response of my own, and am deeply indebted to those who realize the > importance of organ in worship style. > > Paul E. Kealy > <on tour somewhere in California> > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004    
(back) Subject: Re: OK, here's a fun question: From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:35:37 EST     What single organ would you choose to be stranded on a desert island with (presuming a suitable building, etc.)? A Paul Fritts like at PLU, Oh and a crew to keep it in top shape.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Lenten rules From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 16:49:55 -0500   Someone said:   > Without handsome organ accompaniment (not only a few dull chords) > singing > would become entirily impossible. The ritus of Adoration of the Holy > Cross > lasts more than 30 minutes. With the best will we cannot sing for so > long > time and must make organ interludes.   I agree that the rule (even post-Vatican II) is that the use of the organ is to be reduced, at a minimum. At my parish, I'm not playing preludes or postludes, and I am fighting the good fight against myself as regards alternate harmonizations (too many years of listening to Gerre Hancock and his ilk, for whom I have the greatest respect and admiration. I love doing and hearing alternate harmonizations.) Anyway, what's wrong with silence? Isn't music made more meaningful when surrounded by silence? If yes, why do we need interludes?   David Baker    
(back) Subject: RE: CD sheet music From: "Ron Troop" <ronnymn@frontiernet.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 15:46:05 -0600   I have tried one (Chopin) and although useful for reference, I find the pages that my printer produces a bit small for my eye comfort and to use regularly. If someone knows (and it may well be common place?) how to = print the score out in landscape vs. portrait, I would sure appreciate a lesson. = I use Adobe pdf. Ron    
(back) Subject: Re: Gesualdo: Sacred Music for Easter From: <DERREINETOR@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:10:57 EST   Gesualdo murdered them both (or, should one say "executed" them) within = the confines of the law. At that time in Italy, it was perfectly legal to = murder both your wife and her lover if they were caught "in flagrante delicto". = Even a commoner could have gotten away with it at that time. I believe it was not = so long ago that this law was changed in Italy and several other European = states.   I'm NOT excusing his actions, of course. Fortunately in the Church today, = we have Annulments-for-Cash. Much less messy. ;)   Bill H. SJE    
(back) Subject: Re: OK, here's a fun question: From: <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:32:33 EST   In a message dated 3/12/2004 3:36:44 PM Central Standard Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes: What single organ would you choose to be stranded on a desert island with (presuming a suitable building, etc.)? I would take Tabernacle Organ.     Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Re: CD sheet music From: "Kenneth L. Sybesma" <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 17:41:06 -0500     On 12 Mar 2004, at 4.46 PM, Ron Troop wrote:   > I have tried one (Chopin) and although useful for reference, I find the > pages that my printer produces a bit small for my eye comfort and to > use > regularly. If someone knows (and it may well be common place?) how to > print > the score out in landscape vs. portrait, I would sure appreciate a > lesson. I > use Adobe pdf. Ron   You have to tell Adobe in the page-setup menu selection to print at landscape. Also tell it in the printing menu selection to not make any page scaling adjustments, for some reason PDF print outs default to an image slightly smaller than originally intended.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster and Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY Temple Organist & Director of Children's Music Temple Or Elohim, Jericho NY    
(back) Subject: Choir Tour through Connecticut, NYC From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:02:46 -0500   The choir from the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia will be = leading Vespers worship at the following locations:   Grace Lutheran Church, Hartford, CT - March 19 at 7:30 PM St. John's Lutheran Church, Stamford, CT - March 20 at 7:30 St. John's Lutheran Church, Boyertown, PA - March 21 at 7:00   And whatever Lutheran church is on Central Park, New York City, for their morning worship on March 21.   The choir will be under the direction of Mark Mummert, Seminary Musician. =     --Shirley    
(back) Subject: Re: Gesualdo: Flagrante delicto From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 22:01:42 -0500   On 3/12/04 5:10 PM, "DERREINETOR@aol.com" <DERREINETOR@aol.com> wrote:   > At that time in Italy, it was perfectly legal to murder both your wife an= d her > lover if they were caught "in flagrante delicto". Even a commoner could h= ave > gotten away with it at that time. I believe it was not so long ago that t= his > law was changed in Italy and several other European states. >=20 > I'm NOT excusing his actions, of course. Fortunately in the Church today,= we > have Annulments-for-Cash. Much less messy. ;) >=20 Well, OK. EYE=B9ll excuse his actions. But, for those who are =B3language freaks=B2 I can tell the story that=B9s on the same theme. The wife of famous wordsmith goes out for the day, but returns prematurely, to find her husban= d in bed with the maid. =B3Why, Henry, I=B9m surprised!=B2 =B3No, my dear, you are not surprised. You are astonished. EYE am surprised!.=B2 (=B2Nice=B2 distinction.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Choir Tour through Connecticut, NYC From: "Kenneth L. Sybesma" <mewzishn@optonline.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:10:18 -0500   Probably Holy Trinity Lutheran Church, if it's the one near Lincoln Center.   Kenneth L. Sybesma Choirmaster & Organist Church of the Advent, Westbury NY   On 12 Mar 2004, at 9.02 PM, Shirley wrote:   > The choir from the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia will > be leading > Vespers worship at the following locations: > > Grace Lutheran Church, Hartford, CT - March 19 at 7:30 PM > St. John's Lutheran Church, Stamford, CT - March 20 at 7:30 > St. John's Lutheran Church, Boyertown, PA - March 21 at 7:00 > > And whatever Lutheran church is on Central Park, New York City, for > their > morning worship on March 21.    
(back) Subject: Sacramento Organs From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 23:43:56 -0500   Dear List,   Please do not forget the large Estey concert Organ in the municipal auditorium, or possibly the City Hall. It was at one time an instrument under intense discussion on PipOrg-L, and that ought to be all available = on the PipOrg-L Archives. The instrument is alive and well, and as far as I know, well used.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 4:18 PM Subject: Re: open organ discussions OK     > Paul, > > Sacramento is my hometown. There are some great organs in town! 1 or 2 > Ruffati organs, Holtkamp, Hammer, a few large Moller's. My FAVORITE = organ > is the Schlicker in Blessed Sacrament Cathedral on K St downtown. = Awesome > accoustic ... gutsy little 2 manual! Check with the office ... they are > very open to visiting organists. -) > > Tim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <kealypaul@mediaexcellence.com> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:54 PM > Subject: open organ discussions OK > > > > Although some complain of discussing church music style on this list, = it > is > > good to share the variety of worship style, because there IS a variety of > > style out there. > > > > I am writing from a hotel in Sacramento, CA, on a workshop speaking = tour > > from San Francisco through the Central counties. I appreciate knowing = of > the > > various installations out there as I have opportunity to visit and = hear > > various organs. > > > > Because I read of Charlie Lester's organ ministry, I was able to visit his > > church awhile back, and fortunately I chose a day where he presented = an > > afternoon organ concert I was able to attend. This list made that > > outstanding concert, as well as his performance in worship possible. That > > was an unforgettable day. His worship was actually crowded with > worshippers > > who participated in an eclectic variety of the music Charlie = presented. I > > believe that, other than Charlie, I was the only white boy in the > audience, > > but this here Irish boy was warmly welcomed by the entire = congregation. > > > > It was good to see his influence at work. I never would have known of that > > without this Internet discussion. Because of my Internet friendship = with > > Alan Freed, I was able to meet him in the theatre district of = Manhattan, > and > > play his organ at St. Luke's. It was a highlight of my New York tour, and > it > > was because of Internet discussion. > > > > I don't expect to agree with all the divergent views, and I know = others do > > not agree en toto with mine, but I am grateful for the opportunity to > learn > > from this forum. > > > > Listening to pipe organs on a music system can be good, but they were not > > created for that. Pipe organs are a coherent part of an acoustic = space, > and > > although theatres and concert halls may feature such an instrument, there > is > > no guarantee of hearing the instrument speak (some actually limit the > organ > > to exit music - what a tragedy). I have sat in the Wanamaker organ for = a > > noon concert, but that instrument does not seem to receive any respect for > > what it is or represents in music today. > > > > Churches, on the other hand, can house great installations, and basically > in > > performance on a regular basis. Attending worship there may or may not > > guarantee its role in the service as churches scrap organs for a > > contemporary service formats; they may or may not be heard in worship = or > > performance, so it is good to know the worship role of the organ in > advance. > > > > Because of this list I am able to discover and discern and develop a > healthy > > response of my own, and am deeply indebted to those who realize the > > importance of organ in worship style. > > > > Paul E. Kealy > > <on tour somewhere in California> > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.620 / Virus Database: 399 - Release Date: 3/11/2004 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: announcing a new group From: <Myosotis51@aol.com> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:02:09 EST   Hello Bud,     In reference to your comment: I have created Organists Free Speech, which I do NOT intend to censor unless someone advocates the violent overthrow of the = government.   Gee Bud........ but this government NEEDS overthrowing!   Our government and our citizens are meant to function as an organic whole (there - I'm ON topic), and it's just not working.   <ducking and running> Victoria    
(back) Subject: Re: Sacramento Organs From: "David Carter" <davidorganist2002@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:41:31 -0800 (PST)   A couple tidbits about the organs mentioned below: The Estey in Memorial Auditorium was recently used in Saint Saens' 3rd, = the organist was, I believe, David Deffner of Davis, CA. As for its usage, I don't think it = gets used as much as it possibly could. As for the Schlicker, it has been removed for storage = while the cathedral is undergoing an 18-month renovation, scheduled for completion in March 2005. =     As for other pipe instruments downtown, a big Moller is located in = Westminster Pres, on N Street across from the Capitol, and a large Swain & Kates(???) resides in St. = John's Lutheran at 17th & L, and an old, but well-kept Harrison(???) in St. Paul's Episcopal at 15th = & J (across from Memorial Auditorium). David Carter Who works next door to the Cathedral, and 4 blocks from the Memorial = Auditorium. --- Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> wrote: <snip> > Please do not forget the large Estey concert Organ in the municipal > auditorium, <snip> > Cheers, > Malcolm Wechsler > From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> > > Sacramento is my hometown. There are some great organs in town! 1 or = 2 > > Ruffati organs, Holtkamp, Hammer, a few large Moller's. My FAVORITE = organ > > is the Schlicker in Blessed Sacrament Cathedral on K St downtown. = Awesome > > accoustic ... gutsy little 2 manual! Check with the office ... they = are > > very open to visiting organists. -)     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com