PipeChat Digest #4372 - Monday, March 15, 2004
 
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Music and Organs for Successful Marriages
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org>
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org>
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org>
RE: Re: Wedding Processionals
  by "Milo R. Shepherd" <mrstwin2@cox.net>
RE: Re: Wedding Processionals
  by <reedstop@charter.net>
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Wedding Processionals
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Wanted: Used small, Kimber-Allen DE Magnets
  by "Douglas Roger Dexheimer" <whistles73@earthlink.net>
RE: Wedding Processionals
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
The whole "marching" thing
  by "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com>
Re: Disney Hall Organ
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: repertoire question
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re:  Wedding Processionals
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: repertoire question
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
How much for a wedding?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: repertoire question
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: The whole "marching" thing
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Lenten rules
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Pipe wearout
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(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:17:14 -0000   Congratulations !=20 My wife and I (well, we needed to be together, or we wouldn't have been = able to have been married !) had the 'St. Anne' for her entry into the = church. We left to my own arrangement for 3 trumpets and organ of the = 'fanfare-ie' bits from Liszt's 'Ad Nos....'   And we celebrate our Pearl (30th) Anniversary at the end of this month.   We're all big, old romantics at heart.   Harry [MusicMan] Grove -----Original Message----- From: OMusic@aol.com <OMusic@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 14 March 2004 20:34 Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals =20 =20 When Felix played for our wedding, the Processional was Prelude and = Fugue (St. Anne) in Eb Major by Bach. Then the Congregation sang "O God = Our Help in Ages Past." For the Recessional he played Karg Elert's "Now = Thank We All Our God." Eyrline=20    
(back) Subject: Music and Organs for Successful Marriages From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 06:26:27 -0500   Hi Richard and List,   That Allegro is 3/4 time, but is rather marchlike in spirit, nonetheless. = I am glad it worked for you. I don't know how we feel about our little green continuo Organ that played for the wedding of Charles and Di at St. Paul's all those years ago. Kiri Te Kanawa sang to it for the world, on TV. Matrimonially speaking, that Organ did NOT work, but possibly there is nothing that could have done. And, of course, the big Organ could be = jinxed as well, as it also had plenty to do in the service.   The 1916 Hook & Hastings in my church has, as far as we know, sent forth only couples that have remained in wedded bliss, despite a reed that does not always want to stay in tune.   We will think of you, Arp, and your good wife, on the 27th which makes it the 28th!   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 12:47 AM Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals     > cnash cnash wrote: > > > Mendelssohn Second Sonata...the Allegro section makes a GREAT March! > > Yes it does. As a matter of fact, I met my bride half-ways down the = aisle > (it was a "Y" that met just behind the organ console!) to that piece. = It > must have worked, since it's 28 years as of the 27th and counting. . . > Only getting better every day! > > Faithfully, > > G.A. > > -- > Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:00:50 -0500   Wow, never thought of it this way...however, this is a darn good idea. In = fact, let's just get rid of that big thing that takes up all of that space = at the front of the church and melt those pipe things down and use that = space for something more productive like a keyboard or drumset. Would = save a lot of money too!!   Christopher Nash             ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: quilisma@cox.net Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:43:45 -0800   >I DEVOUTLY wish the whole "marching" thing would DISAPPEAR, along with >outrageous expenditures for dresses, flowers, etc., and it HAS, in a few >sane liturgical churches. > >Bride, groom, two witnesses, parents, (choir, if they're available) >sanctuary party ... that's all that's required. > >The celebration is carried out the same as a normal Sunday Eucharist, >plus the marriage service. > >Sing a hymn going in, and a hymn going out. > >Here's the thing: the amount spent on all the frou-frou could provide a >SIZEABLE nest-egg for the newly-weds. > >No, it's NOT "the bride's day" ... it's the day when the BRIDE *AND* THE >GROOM *AND* THEIR FAITH COMMUNITY come together to ask GOD'S blessing on >their union. > >It's not the CULMINATION; it's the BEGINNING. > >Have you ever seen an ATTRACTIVE (or re-usable) BRIDESMAID'S DRESS? >(chuckle) > >Mark W. McClellan wrote: > >> >> >> Bridal March in C from "The Birds of Aristophanes" by C. Hubert = Parry >> >> (Thanks, Virgil!) > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:05:04 -0500   Some people overlook that piece, completely. It is short, sweet, easy and = majestic...and it does not involve a huge Tuba or anything traditional. I = do find it interesting when someone directly says on a chatlist...no, this = one will not work....it makes you want to assume that they probably could = not play it correctly if they tried.   Christopher Nash     ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Richard Schneider <arpschneider@starband.net> Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 23:47:44 -0600   >cnash cnash wrote: > >> Mendelssohn Second Sonata...the Allegro section makes a GREAT March! > >Yes it does. As a matter of fact, I met my bride half-ways down the aisle >(it was a "Y" that met just behind the organ console!) to that piece. It >must have worked, since it's 28 years as of the 27th and counting. . . >Only getting better every day! > >Faithfully, > >G.A. > >-- >Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< >Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. >41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 >Kenney, IL 61749-0137 >(217) 944-2454 VOX >(877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE >(217) 944-2527 FAX >arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL >arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL >http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:11:29 EST   >Here's the thing: the amount spent on all the frou-frou could provide a >SIZEABLE nest-egg for the newly-weds.   >No, it's NOT "the bride's day" ... it's the day when the BRIDE *AND* THE >GROOM *AND* THEIR FAITH COMMUNITY come together to ask GOD'S >blessing on =   their union.   >It's not the CULMINATION; it's the BEGINNING.   Try explaining that to a bride! LOL They are groomed from they day they = are born that their wedding day is "their" day--that they get to shine, that = they get to be a princess, etc. That's why they act like Bridezillas when = things don't go THEIR way or when the church's policies don't fit into what their =   ideas of what the "ideal" wedding is.   I played for a wedding 5 or 6 years ago where the family spent over = $250,000 (yes, that's correct, 1/4 of a million dollars) on the wedding. The = wedding program was a hardcover bound book, the Charlotte symphony and I provided music, the Charlotte Oratorio Singers (the symphony's chorale) sang, = flowers were shipped in from Africa and South America, and for the reception, the whole =   Charlotte Motor Speedway was rented. Granted, there were about 1500 = guests in attendance, but everything was a little overdone. I wonder to this day if = the couple is still married, as they were both going off to grad school the following fall.   The reason I got asked to play for the wedding is that I could play the = Widor Toccata, and the regular church organist could not. This was in a big Independent Baptist church, with a tiny little 2 manual Rodgers organ that = had to be at least 25 years old. I had substituted there a couple of times, since = the former Minister of Music is a friend of mine. Due to the "left foot = Suzie" kind of organist they had, they relied on the full orchestra and 9' = Steinway piano to lead all the music, and the organ always just played chords, so = when the bride to be heard the organ actually play, she came running up to me after =   the service and asked me if I played the Widor and I told her yes, she = asked if she could hear it on that organ, so I played it and she burst into tears. = She called me a few days later and told me about the wedding and it turned out = I was free that day, so I told her I'd do it. The Minister of Music at the church filled me in on all the details about the wedding and what kind of = money was being spent. The church was apalled at how ostentatious the wedding = was going to be. It ended being very elegant, but a little overdone. The = nice thing was that the family loved the organ music so much they gave me an extra = $100 dollars, so I didn't complain too much!   Monty Bennett    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:22:00 -0500   I was going to ask how much you charged for that wedding Monty...Flowers = from Africa...organist from Cheraw!!! those organists cost a lot of money. =   How much do you other people charge for weddings?   Christopher Nash             ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: RMB10@aol.com Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:11:29 EST   >>Here's the thing: the amount spent on all the frou-frou could provide a >>SIZEABLE nest-egg for the newly-weds. > >>No, it's NOT "the bride's day" ... it's the day when the BRIDE *AND* THE =   >>GROOM *AND* THEIR FAITH COMMUNITY come together to ask GOD'S >blessing = on >their union. > >>It's not the CULMINATION; it's the BEGINNING. > >Try explaining that to a bride! LOL They are groomed from they day they = are >born that their wedding day is "their" day--that they get to shine, that = they >get to be a princess, etc. That's why they act like Bridezillas when = things >don't go THEIR way or when the church's policies don't fit into what = their >ideas of what the "ideal" wedding is. > >I played for a wedding 5 or 6 years ago where the family spent over = $250,000 >(yes, that's correct, 1/4 of a million dollars) on the wedding. The = wedding >program was a hardcover bound book, the Charlotte symphony and I provided =   >music, the Charlotte Oratorio Singers (the symphony's chorale) sang, = flowers were >shipped in from Africa and South America, and for the reception, the = whole >Charlotte Motor Speedway was rented. Granted, there were about 1500 = guests in >attendance, but everything was a little overdone. I wonder to this day = if the >couple is still married, as they were both going off to grad school the >following fall. > >The reason I got asked to play for the wedding is that I could play the = Widor >Toccata, and the regular church organist could not. This was in a big >Independent Baptist church, with a tiny little 2 manual Rodgers organ = that had to be >at least 25 years old. I had substituted there a couple of times, since = the >former Minister of Music is a friend of mine. Due to the "left foot = Suzie" >kind of organist they had, they relied on the full orchestra and 9' = Steinway >piano to lead all the music, and the organ always just played chords, so = when the >bride to be heard the organ actually play, she came running up to me = after >the service and asked me if I played the Widor and I told her yes, she = asked if >she could hear it on that organ, so I played it and she burst into tears. = She >called me a few days later and told me about the wedding and it turned = out I >was free that day, so I told her I'd do it. The Minister of Music at the =   >church filled me in on all the details about the wedding and what kind of = money >was being spent. The church was apalled at how ostentatious the wedding = was >going to be. It ended being very elegant, but a little overdone. The = nice thing >was that the family loved the organ music so much they gave me an extra = $100 >dollars, so I didn't complain too much! > >Monty Bennett > >  
(back) Subject: RE: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "Milo R. Shepherd" <mrstwin2@cox.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 7:47:06 -0500   yes I did stop before the nuns came out singing...actually I locked them = in the abbey so they wouldn't come out singing. > > From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> > Date: 2004/03/15 Mon AM 12:18:11 EST > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Subject: RE: Re: Wedding Processionals > > > When I was in Germany in the service...was asked to play for a > > wedding. I ended up playing the Processional from the Sound of > > Music. The Bride absolutely loved the idea and it was a big hit. > > Is it to be assumed that you stopped before the part where the nuns come > back in with "How do you solve a problem like Maria?" :) > > Jeff, who's organ instructor got to play the organ in Sound of Music. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >    
(back) Subject: RE: Re: Wedding Processionals From: <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:54:48 +0000     > yes I did stop before the nuns came out singing...actually I locked them = in the abbey so they wouldn't come out singing.   Milo...that's great!! LOL Thanks for the chuckle! :)   I just always wondered about using that piece...how do you end it before = that part of the music (the nuns) with dignity? Inquiring minds...   Jeff    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 07:48:59 -0800   Don't put words into my mouth, Christopher.   There is nothing in my message that says anything about doing away with the pipe organ, if the church is lucky enough to have one.   My POINT is that Matrimony is a SACRAMENT.   Not a fashion show.   Not a flower show.   And yes, not a concert either.       Bud Clark       cnash cnash wrote: > Wow, never thought of it this way...however, this is a darn good > idea. In fact, let's just get rid of that big thing that takes up > all of that space at the front of the church and melt those pipe > things down and use that space for something more productive like a > keyboard or drumset. Would save a lot of money too!! > > Christopher Nash > > > > > > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: > quilisma@cox.net Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: > Sun, 14 Mar 2004 18:43:45 -0800 > > >> I DEVOUTLY wish the whole "marching" thing would DISAPPEAR, along >> with outrageous expenditures for dresses, flowers, etc., and it >> HAS, in a few sane liturgical churches. >> >> Bride, groom, two witnesses, parents, (choir, if they're available) >> sanctuary party ... that's all that's required. >> >> The celebration is carried out the same as a normal Sunday >> Eucharist, plus the marriage service. >> >> Sing a hymn going in, and a hymn going out. >> >> Here's the thing: the amount spent on all the frou-frou could >> provide a SIZEABLE nest-egg for the newly-weds. >> >> No, it's NOT "the bride's day" ... it's the day when the BRIDE >> *AND* THE GROOM *AND* THEIR FAITH COMMUNITY come together to ask >> GOD'S blessing on their union. >> >> It's not the CULMINATION; it's the BEGINNING. >> >> Have you ever seen an ATTRACTIVE (or re-usable) BRIDESMAID'S DRESS? >> (chuckle) >> >> Mark W. McClellan wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >>> Bridal March in C from "The Birds of Aristophanes" by C. Hubert >>> Parry >>> >>> (Thanks, Virgil!) >> >> >> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for >> pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : >> http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >> Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> mailto:requests@pipechat.org >> >> >> > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for > pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : > http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:58:12 -0500   This is an observation on Wedding Processionals. The music NOT to play is=20 the "Pie Jesu" from the Faur=E9 Requiem as in the TV movie "Absolutely=20 Fabulous." Of course that was a non-wedding and could have been construed=20 as a funeral even though "Sweetie Dahling" was indeed radiant. One cannot=20 say the same for Edena in her faux pirate costume by LaCroix. Ross Coulson "Cole" Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA      
(back) Subject: Wanted: Used small, Kimber-Allen DE Magnets From: "Douglas Roger Dexheimer" <whistles73@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:20:53 -0600     We are looking for about 37 small Kimber-Allen electro-mechanical organ magnets. These are the smaller variety of the typical Reisner, Wicks, Justin Matter, etc magnets. A variety of magnet resistances were made, = for different WP's. Please advise where a supply of these can be obtained. Thanks: Bill Stephens/Doug Dexheimer        
(back) Subject: RE: Wedding Processionals From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:06:47 -0600   Many churches I know invest substantial (if sometimes insufficient) resources in organs, organists, and choirs to provide musical support to their congregations on a continuing basis. For them and for me, there is = no rational reason for your suggestion. The dots are really too far apart.   michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of cnash cnash Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 6:01 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals     Wow, never thought of it this way...however, this is a darn good idea. In fact, let's just get rid of that big thing that takes up all of that space at the front of the church and melt those pipe things down and use that space for something more productive like a keyboard or drumset. Would = save a lot of money too!!   Christopher Nash      
(back) Subject: The whole "marching" thing From: "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:26:06 -0800   quilisma@cox.net said,   =3D-> I DEVOUTLY wish the whole "marching" thing would DISAPPEAR, along with outrageous expenditures for dresses, flowers, etc., and it HAS, in a few sane liturgical churches. <-=3D     Boy, are you ever living in a dream world! As one who has played for more than a thousand weddings, I can tell you that dresses, flowers, bridesmaids, ring bearers, etc, AND "marching" [processionals] aren't going to disappear anytime soon from "mainstream" weddings.   ~ C    
(back) Subject: Re: Disney Hall Organ From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:28:22 -0800 (PST)   and they are a mighty tasty box of fries!         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam  
(back) Subject: Re: repertoire question From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:32:11 -0800 (PST)   Krieger! Im stil looking for the correct version (for me) of his Toccata in D major = from one of hte old Masterworks for Organ series. They were published in = the 40's by the Litherigal Music Press and Distributed by Boosey Hawkes. = And in granite colored covers. Kreiger is great.         From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam  
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Processionals From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 09:51:07 -0800 (PST)   Dont forget Handels Hornpipe/Allegro from the Water Music Terry Baldridge wrote a little Trumpet Tune in his book Immortal Praise Hmm...others... The David German Trumpet Tune is great, and rather easily learned. Ceremonial Processional from Music for King Arthur by Purcell Other fresh pieces Gordon Young's Jubilate from Preludes for Worship Vol. 3 Mary Ellen Kerrick has a great book, Christian Hearts in Love United.       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam  
(back) Subject: Re: repertoire question From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:53:42 EST   In a message dated 3/15/2004 11:37:42 AM Central Standard Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes: Krieger! Im stil looking for the correct version (for me) of his Toccata in D major =   from one of hte old Masterworks for Organ series. They were published in = the 40's by the Litherigal Music Press and Distributed by Boosey Hawkes. And = in granite colored covers. Kreiger is great.       Desiree,   Try the Harold Washington Library The Newberry Library Northwestern Univ Music Library David Schrader Performer's Music 312 987 1196 On Michigan Ave, Fine Arts Bldg, 9th Floor. Coulson's Music 312 461 1989 On Van Buren 1/2 block West of Michigan Ave.   I would be very careful about 1940's editions of any Baroque music.     good luck, gfc             Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: How much for a wedding? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 12:57:51 -0500   On 3/15/04 7:22 AM, "cnash cnash" <cnash@mail.fbcaiken.org> wrote:   > How much do you other people charge for weddings?   Depends on so many things. Anywhere from zero to over $1,000. Ordinary starter in NYC is around $200, but anywhere from half that to twice that = is quite normal. Less than a year ago we had a wedding preceded by a = one-hour recital by a world-famous recitalist named Felix Hell. That (and the service music itself) was his most gracious gift to the bride and groom, members of this list.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: repertoire question From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 10:01:08 -0800 (PST)   Greg, how are things up there with the attempt to save your department? Thanks for the info on music searching. Im frequently at Coulsons = purchasing. Where is the Newberry Lib? Harold WA does not have it. Im there alot too. = They Do have a great collection of organ music...almost everything we = need...at a Public Library!       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam  
(back) Subject: Re: The whole "marching" thing From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:08:25 -0500   On 3/15/04 12:26 PM, "Charlie Lester" <crlester@137.com> wrote:   > As one who has played for more than a thousand weddings, I can tell you = that > dresses, flowers, bridesmaids, ring bearers, etc, AND "marching" > [processionals] aren't going to disappear anytime soon from "mainstream" > weddings.   Well, Charlie, I haven't played a thousand weddings. Or even a dozen. (Though I've officiated at a fair number, in some interesting = "locations.")   But your (quite correct) point is plenty of good reason to AVOID being anything LIKE "mainstream." I'm not sure I ever even HAD one!   And I've been doing them for 43 years--but I'm picky.   Alan (no Marryin' Sam)    
(back) Subject: RE: Lenten rules From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:47:17 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   David & List, A church, crowded to the rooftop by several hundreds of lively and temperamental hispano-americans from age 01- to 80+ would = become a noisy market-place without a handsome musical background to listen to = and sing with.   Most of these people go to church once a year, and that is on Good Friday. Their RC faith is mixed with all kind of superstitions and folclore = beliefs since too many generations to do something about. Our bishops & parishes every year preach long and broad about that problem. Result =3D Null. A complex, interesting but off topic problem, this one :) I admit that I was badly shocked the first year... but understood the necesssity of that single rule-break very soon.   Cheers Andres, the someone. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.     ----- Original Message ----- From: David Baker <dbaker@lawyers.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 5:49 PM Subject: Lenten rules     > Someone said: > > > Without handsome organ accompaniment (not only a few dull chords) > > singing > > would become entirily impossible. The ritus of Adoration of the Holy > > Cross > > lasts more than 30 minutes. With the best will we cannot sing for so > > long > > time and must make organ interludes. > SNIP > Anyway, what's wrong with silence? Isn't music made more meaningful > when surrounded by silence? If yes, why do we need interludes? > > David Baker      
(back) Subject: Pipe wearout From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 14:49:29 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   All the mentioned facts of this discussion have little or nothing to do = with wear out of pipes due to age or use but with non accurate materials, casting, construction, installation, intervention or environmental facts, IMHO.   The only wearout that could occur is a slight one on the mouth due to dust particles carried by the wind. It will need a couple of thousand years however until this wearout becomes noticeable. Interesting is that for a time it was seriously considered among certain organ builders that the = dust particles cause a "micro-nicking" that ennobles the pipe sound!   In other context, it called to my attention the extensive use of tuning slides in US- organ building (french and german OB uses mostly tuning scrolls on bass-tenor and cone on treble). Tuning slides do not only = prevent damage by non expert tuners; the pipes have a different sound quality too.   My 400 Bolivars (=3Dtwo cents, LOL)   Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.