PipeChat Digest #4389 - Friday, March 26, 2004
 
RE: Drawknobs on great?
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
RE: blind organist-composers
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
Re: Drawknobs on great?
  by <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com>
Alfred J. Thompson
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
drawknobs
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
RE: Alfred J. Thompson
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
RE: Drawknobs on great?
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Little Rock
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
re: Little Rock
  by "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com>
RE: Little Rock
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
Re: Jackson, Mississippi
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Is the message below coming clearly or as garbage.
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: Jackson, Mississssiiiipppppppiiiiiii
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Is the message below coming clearly or as garbage.
  by "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Drawknobs on great?
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Re: Jackson, Mississssiiiipppppppiiiiiii
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Drawknobs on great?
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Blind Organists/Composers
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Drawknobs on great? From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:12:33 -0000   I've never come across anything like this - but can I make a guess? Could the Great be fitted with Second Touch, as is used on Theatre Organs? i.e. when you play on the Great, if you push extra hard on the key, the Choir = or Swell is coupled to that note?   Will Light Coventry UK        
(back) Subject: RE: blind organist-composers From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:12:33 -0000   I once knew a blind organist/composer called Alfred J. Thompson. In his great age, after his wife died, he was looked after by my great aunt. I = have one or two of his published piano pieces, but I'm sure he wrote some = organ music too - He was professor of music at Cardiff University in his day. = I will see if I can run any of his music to ground. He was an amazing man. = I remember he came and stayed with us, when I was a teenager, about 16. He = was to do an opening recital on a new organ in Plymouth. I took him to see several organs, and he would sit at the console, reach out and touch the stop knobs one by one. What's this? What's this? What's this? Then he = would start to play, having memorized the specification and layout of the = stops, and hand-register everything straight away. Incredible! Good player too! =     Will Light Coventry UK        
(back) Subject: Re: Drawknobs on great? From: <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:36:11 EST   On one pipe organ I played, it had two great divisions. Purhaps the organ =   has that just not labeled. Or it is a coupler that was prepared but never = used.     Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Alfred J. Thompson From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 06:58:40 -0600   Very interesting. Beckmann and Henderson both list Thompson's Melody in G (1929), published by Wood Music, and that's all. If you find anything = else, please let me know. Also, his birth date is 1889. Do you have a death = date, or is he headed for the record book?   Robert Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: Will Light <will.light@btinternet.com> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:12 AM Subject: RE: blind organist-composers     > I once knew a blind organist/composer called Alfred J. Thompson. In his > great age, after his wife died, he was looked after by my great aunt. I have > one or two of his published piano pieces, but I'm sure he wrote some = organ > music too - He was professor of music at Cardiff University in his day. = I > will see if I can run any of his music to ground. <snip>    
(back) Subject: drawknobs From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:56:28 EST   Were they once intended to combine pistons like the old cheek block combon =   pistons on AS type of organs?   Perhaps it allows the great and swell to crash on the preacher's head if = they preach too longggggggggggggggggggg   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: RE: Alfred J. Thompson From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:18:13 -0000   I haven't done any searching yet, but I'm glad to hear you've identified = one piece. Mr. Thompson isn't in any record books! I just asked my aunt - = not the great aunt who looked after him, who says she thinks that he died = around the early 70s - she thinks 1972 but isn't totally sure. He was certainly = in his early 80s when he died.=20   Will Light Coventry UK     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lind Sent: 25 March 2004 12:59 To: PipeChat Subject: Alfred J. Thompson   Very interesting. Beckmann and Henderson both list Thompson's Melody in = G (1929), published by Wood Music, and that's all. If you find anything = else, please let me know. Also, his birth date is 1889. Do you have a death = date, or is he headed for the record book?   Robert Lind      
(back) Subject: RE: Drawknobs on great? From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:18:39 -0600   Chuck,   How about being able to draw a second set of Great stops on the Choir or Swell (with the appropriate delegation knob drawn), without having them sound on the Great?   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Charles Peery Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:52 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Drawknobs on great?   Dear listers,   In the last few days I was getting to know a lovely Schantz=20 three-manual, drawknobs at the sides. While there was a normal row of=20 coupler rocker tabs dead ahead as usual, there were several drawknobs=20 on the Great which I didn't understand. They said, to the best of my=20 recollection:   Great II to Choir Great II to Swell   At first I thought they functioned as couplers, but the stops didn't=20 transfer, at least the ones I tried. Then again, there's that roman=20 numeral 2 to be accounted for. No other drawknobs had a II on them, so=20 it wasn't as if it was saying that only certain marked stops would=20 transfer.   I know I'm being incredibly ignorant in front of everyone, but I don't=20 know what these were for.   Thanks,   Chuck Peery Cincinnati   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Little Rock From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:22:14 -0500   As a native of Little Rock, I can say with some certainty that the organ at Trinity Cathedral was never a Sipe. It was an undistinguished 4 manual Moller. Sipe may have had something to do with it, but Moller it was. In the mid-70's it got an Austin console. It may have all been replaced by now, but I rather doubt it. "Dead" does not begin to describe the acoustics; "negative" is more like it.   As regards Christ Church, that was replaced by a Nichols & Simpson instrument. Go to   http://www.nicholsandsimpson.com/prod01.htm   for details. The church was done over several years ago and now has perhaps too much acoustics! Hard, reflective surfaces everywhere.   David Baker    
(back) Subject: re: Little Rock From: "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:46:57 -0600   Information about the current instrument at Trinity Cathedral in Little = Rock can be found on Muller's website. The Moller/Sipe with Austin console was replaced.   http://www.jwmullerorgans.com/html/tec__little_rock.html   C. Joseph Nichols Nichols & Simpson, Inc. www.nicholsandsimpson.com    
(back) Subject: RE: Little Rock From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 08:49:19 -0600   The Muller instrument was the cover feature of a TAO issue sometime in recent months.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of C. Joseph Nichols Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 8:47 AM To: pipechat Subject: re: Little Rock   Information about the current instrument at Trinity Cathedral in Little Rock can be found on Muller's website. The Moller/Sipe with Austin console was replaced.   http://www.jwmullerorgans.com/html/tec__little_rock.html   C. Joseph Nichols Nichols & Simpson, Inc. www.nicholsandsimpson.com   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Re: Jackson, Mississippi From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:57:44 -0600   Thanks! the sound is pretty great also, preserving the original 1885 Rosevelt voicing. To see or play the organ one should contact Glen Gentry. HIs email is gentry@iain,usmed.edu Roy Redman   "T.Desiree' Hines" wrote:   > Roy Redman's instalation at Tougaloo College is a sight to behold.So > much history at Tougaloo, its one of the country's oldest historically > Black Colleges. The chapel (correct me if im wrong Roy) was built by > the student body way back in the 1800's. Its located right between the > Hinds and Madison County boarders in a tiny township > called...well...Tougaloo. Its basically still in Jackson., but its own > intity. Cross going north and you are in Ridgeland, where Jackson > areas affluent live. Tougaloo is affiliated with the UCC and Disciples > denominations. If you go down State street in Jackson, down to I > think, Tougaloo road. Theres a railroad track where you should turn > left. There might be a traffic light there. Go about a mile or two and > on your right you will see (if its still there) a white iron gate/arch > that has "Tougaloo College"on it. Ah nastalgia! Mama used to get my > birthday cakes made at the Tougaloo College kitchen. Mmmmmm MMM! My > widowed sister's husband went to Tougaloo as well.One of our long time > neighbors daughters went there as well. She even recalls an organ > major when she was there. She says that they would love to listen to > him play Buxtehude. When I told her I was playing, she was > thrilled. So special to me for Roy Redman to have put a fabulous work > in the chapel. Certainly go see it! > > From Desiree' > T. Desiree' Hines > Chicago, IL 60649 > http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html > > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.    
(back) Subject: Is the message below coming clearly or as garbage. From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:19:41 -0500   I've noticed that messages I send to this group from home come through = fine, but ones from work end up being alpha-numeric garbage.   How does this message look?   Richard  
(back) Subject: Re: Jackson, Mississssiiiipppppppiiiiiii From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:31:27 -0800 (PST)   Hey Glenda On Jackson Robert Lee is Organist-Choirmaster at St James Episcopal. Thats my home = church of the Episcopal faith. Its very special to me. I also gave my = first recital there on the old Moller. The old Moller was rebuiit by David = Finch and is in Saint "Someones" out on Ridgewood Road about 20 mins from = St James. David OSteen is O-ChM there. Northminster Baptist church is on Ridgewood Road near a school, I can't = remember wich one. Actually, across from Northminster is Covenant = Presbyterian Church with a 3 Manual Ruffatti. Billy Trotter (who is my = heart!) is organist at Northminster and Professor of Organ emeritus of = Mississippi College. Len BoBo, a former student of BT's is organist and = director at Covenant. Northminster is 601-982-4703. Ask for Shirley and = tell her what you want to do. She's a doll! Covenant is 601-981-7236. go see Tougaloo College's organ for sure! And Galloway Methodist. Robert = Knupp is at Galloway, and is Organ prof at Mississippi College. see if = Pauline Stillwell is still at Tougaloo. Happy Crawlin thru Jacktown!     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60649 http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html   --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time.  
(back) Subject: Re: Is the message below coming clearly or as garbage. From: "Jim McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:06:04 -0500     On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:19:41 -0500 ContraReed@aol.com writes:   > How does this message look?       CLEAR  
(back) Subject: Re: Drawknobs on great? From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 17:50:01 EST   Perhaps part of the Great (Great II) is enclosed. That would also account = for it being coupled to the Swell.   Tom    
(back) Subject: Re: Jackson, Mississssiiiipppppppiiiiiii From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:33:45 -0500   On 3/25/04 12:31 PM, "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> wrote:   > David OSteen is O-ChM there. >=20 I=B9d love to know whether he is a relative of an old friend, a South=B9n boy, Joe O=B9Steen, Anglican priest and organist, most of his career in CT and Brooklyn, but now retired in ??Oklahoma??.   Got a clue?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Drawknobs on great? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 19:43:10 -0600   These are probably what we call "Transfer Couplers." There are probably = two or three windchests on the Great Organ, and these couplers enable you to play those particular stops which are on a particular windchest on a different manual. I am not familiar with your organ, but can imagine a fairly typical Great Organ that consists of the following stops:   16' Bourdon (chest 1) 8' Principal (chest 2) 8' Holzgedeckt (chest 1) 8' Viola (chest 1) 4' Octave (chest 2) 4' Rohrfloete (chest 1) 2' Super Octave (chest 2) 1.1/3' Mixture IV (chest 2) 8' Trumpet (chest 3) 4' Clarion (chest 3)   In this case, the Principal chorus is on one chest, the flutes and strings on a second chest, and the reed on a third chest. This is a situation = that, although far from universal, would not be unusual.   On such an organ a transfer coupler called "Great II on Choir" would transfer all the flutes and strings to the Choir Organ, while still = allowing you to play the Principal chorus on the Great. This greatly increases the versatility of the instrument.   Do you get the idea? Such couplers are fairly rare, though we at Quimby Pipe Organs included several of them on our organ at St. Margaret's Episcopal Church in Palm Desert, California.   If the drawknobs do not tell you which stops are on I, II &c., I guess you would just have to find out by trial and error.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 3:52 AM Subject: Drawknobs on great?     > Dear listers, > > In the last few days I was getting to know a lovely Schantz > three-manual, drawknobs at the sides. While there was a normal row of > coupler rocker tabs dead ahead as usual, there were several drawknobs > on the Great which I didn't understand. They said, to the best of my > recollection: > > Great II to Choir > Great II to Swell > > At first I thought they functioned as couplers, but the stops didn't > transfer, at least the ones I tried. Then again, there's that roman > numeral 2 to be accounted for. No other drawknobs had a II on them, so > it wasn't as if it was saying that only certain marked stops would > transfer.      
(back) Subject: Blind Organists/Composers From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 21:07:22 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Without too much thought, I can think of David Liddle as a performer, Langlais as composer/performer, Alfred Hollins as composer/performer, Vierne of course and Andre Marchal.   I'm sure there were/are many others, but what about other diabilities?   Any one handed or unidexter organists?   What about deaf ones? (Don't write this off....I shall follow this up with a remarkable example).   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html