PipeChat Digest #4487 - Friday, May 7, 2004
 
Re: A rounf table discussion on comeradery
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
thoughts on camaraderie and personal contentment
  by "Richard Hazelip" <rhazelip1@yahoo.com>
Ducasse - Pastorale
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Emergency Hymn Help
  by "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com>
Re: Emergency Hymn Help
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Emergency Hymn Help
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Ducasse - Pastorale
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: Emergency Hymn Help
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Ducasse - Pastorale
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Ducasse - Pastorale:  Difficulty and Farnum
  by <Lewwill@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: A rounf table discussion on comeradery From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 22:01:00 EDT   In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:11:03 PM Central Daylight Time, nicemusica@yahoo.com writes: I have been really thinking about this profession we have. Its often the best of times and worst of times.   I want to open a discussion on something. In several groups for organists, I have notices several people in a way, "one-upping" others, being snide with remarks, critical, etc. And = particularly towards repertoire. These are directed to many and not just one or a few.   What i notice is there are tons of people who love to dish out the "I can play this difficult piece better than whoswhatsit" But, usually when I = compare the person who plays the difficult piece, to whoswhatsit playing a piece = that they learned in college, there is always something more heartfelt about whoswhatsit's performance. They did not learn the piece just so say "I can = play..."   Is anyone these days in our field "becoming a part of their music"? Or are = we just learning things for the sake of having x-number of measures?   Are we learning repertoire that is not of our favorite period to appease, = or are we going with what the heart says?   I invite talk on this. You have made a gross generalization. Also, I don't know a soul that = would learn a piece that they didn't love. gfc                 Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: thoughts on camaraderie and personal contentment From: "Richard Hazelip" <rhazelip1@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 19:57:11 -0700 (PDT)     Worrying over whether I play something better or worse than someone else, = or that this or that person plays circles around me with both his/her = hands in woolen mittens is such a waste of emotional energy. I lived in = that world as a young wannabe pianist who did not want to put in the = necessary time to become a teen prodigy. At times that old demon = resurfaces when I see the likes of Felix Hell, Cameron Carpenter, and the = talent local to Houston. However, I am able to realize that I have made = choices that have natural and inevitable consequences - - one of which is = that I made a choice long ago to be good in several areas, not spectacular = in one. I am married to a wonderful woman who lets me put my career ahead = of her needs (at times!). I lead a very satisfying life as a proficient = vocalist who loves teaching voice, a pianist who can pour out his soul on = a piano and feel good again, an organist of some proficiency, and a = college teacher and church musician who is loved and respected in his small spheres of influence.   Reminds me of a line from Babylon 5: I once had all the options in the = world but no power. Now I have the all the power but no options. = (bragging rights for whoever can identify who said that line, and in what = season.)   There will be always someone who can outdo you in whatever category you = name. I gave up trying to be that person - - it's just so frustrating to = be someone I am not cut out to be.   For what it's worth - - -   Richard Hazelip      
(back) Subject: Ducasse - Pastorale From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 23:15:37 EDT   I can't remember who has all the French imports since Presser lost the franchise. It IS a lovely piece.   __________________________________________   Out of print or not:   The Roger Ducasse Pastorale IS a lovely piece, a wonderful piece. It is playable by the likes of Catharine Crozier (deceased, I realize), Todd = Wilson, Richard Elliott, David Craighead, James Higdon, Michael Bauer, etc., those =   blessed with (and who have worked years to achieve) the highest level of = artistic technique and discipline.   It is NOT a Saturday evening review piece for Sunday morning.   Seriously!   Dale Rider    
(back) Subject: Emergency Hymn Help From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 23:50:36 -0400   Eeeeek - hello all. I am doing a program for my grandmother's funeral and I and the family decided to do two verses of "A mighty fortress" in German (Ein feste = Burg) - my grandmother being German and all. However, I usually do programs with =   the music in them utilizing a composition program that I have for the = hymns, Mass parts, yada yada. For the life of me - I can not figure out how some = of the text fits with the hymn tune.   Does anyone have a copy of the hymn "Ein Feste Burg" in German with the music so I might be able to see what the heck is going on with this tune? Old Lutheran Hymnals, Bach Cantata Scores, anything would be of help.   Thanks in advance for your help and replies!   Erik      
(back) Subject: Re: Emergency Hymn Help From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 22:58:54 -0500   Erik- I am sorry to hear about your grandmother's passing. The Bach Cantata BWV 80 may help you. Try the following link.   http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia/music-scores/freemusic/sacrbach/   Alicia Zeilenga "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: "Erik Johnson" <the_maitre@hotmail.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 23:50:36 -0400 Subject: Emergency Hymn Help   > Eeeeek - hello all. > I am doing a program for my grandmother's funeral and I and the family > decided to do two verses of "A mighty fortress" in German (Ein feste > Burg) > - my grandmother being German and all. However, I usually do programs > with > the music in them utilizing a composition program that I have for the > hymns, > Mass parts, yada yada. For the life of me - I can not figure out how > some of > the text fits with the hymn tune. > > Does anyone have a copy of the hymn "Ein Feste Burg" in German with the > music so I might be able to see what the heck is going on with this > tune? > Old Lutheran Hymnals, Bach Cantata Scores, anything would be of help. > > Thanks in advance for your help and replies! > > Erik > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Emergency Hymn Help From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 00:05:00 EDT   what music notation program are you using?    
(back) Subject: Re: Ducasse - Pastorale From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 06 May 2004 22:03:14 -0700   >The Roger Ducasse Pastorale IS a lovely piece, a wonderful piece. It is = playable by the likes of Catharine Crozier >(deceased, I realize), Todd = Wilson, Richard Elliott, David Craighead, James Higdon, Michael Bauer, = etc., those blessed with >(and who have worked years to achieve) the = highest level of artistic technique and discipline.   >It is NOT a Saturday evening review piece for Sunday morning.   >Seriously!   >Dale Rider   Amen! About 10 years ago Robert Noehren (who certainly had the chops to = play anything in the repertoire) told me that in his opinion the = Roger-Ducasse was THE most difficult piece in the literature, not simply = because of its technical difficulties, but because making it all hang = together logically and musically from section to section is so tricky.   MAF    
(back) Subject: Re: Emergency Hymn Help From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 01:20:01 EDT   In a message dated 5/6/2004 10:52:10 PM Central Daylight Time, the_maitre@hotmail.com writes: Eeeeek - hello all. I am doing a program for my grandmother's funeral and I and the family decided to do two verses of "A mighty fortress" in German (Ein feste = Burg) - my grandmother being German and all. However, I usually do programs with =   the music in them utilizing a composition program that I have for the = hymns, Mass parts, yada yada. For the life of me - I can not figure out how some = of the text fits with the hymn tune.   Does anyone have a copy of the hymn "Ein Feste Burg" in German with the music so I might be able to see what the heck is going on with this tune? Old Lutheran Hymnals, Bach Cantata Scores, anything would be of help.   Thanks in advance for your help and replies!   Erik http://www.kalliope.org/digt.pl?longdid=3Dluther2000070904   there is no music-but if you just sing the tune in your head as you look = at the words...they fit perfectly. Sorry for your loss, gfc                                 Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Ducasse - Pastorale From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 01:23:55 EDT   Amen!    
(back) Subject: Re: Ducasse - Pastorale: Difficulty and Farnum From: <Lewwill@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 03:38:40 EDT   Dear listers   No one would deny that the "Pastorale" is a killer to learn. I recall reading that Lynwood Farnum memorized it in an afternoon. He & Jeanne = Demessieux must have been the two "quick studies" in the organ world. She memorizied Dupre's "Evocation" in two readings.   Lew Williams