PipeChat Digest #4491 - Saturday, May 8, 2004
 
Re: [LONG] Whaddya think?  Would it sell?
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
CONGRATULATIONS, FELIX !!!!
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Re: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Ein Feste Burg
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Re: [LONG] Whaddya think?  Would it sell?
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: [LONG] Whaddya think?  Would it sell?
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: [LONG] Whaddya think?  Would it sell?
  by "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
RE: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Whats on your menu for the Jour des M	=E8res?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
one chapter per person (was Whaddya think?  Would it sell?)
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Clara Schumann (was Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's)
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Carolus Andreas
  by "Peter Underwood" <pgunderwood@wol.co.za>
Copies available?
  by "Peter Underwood" <pgunderwood@wol.co.za>
Re: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
RE: Copies available?
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
RE: [LONG] Whaddya think?  Would it sell?
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Glenda's fiction
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
General Comments as a whole
  by "Milo R. Shepherd" <mrstwin2@cox.net>
Re: Organist Search
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
Re: Whats on your menu for the Jo ur des M =E8res?
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Carolus Andreas
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Organist Search
  by <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com>
Re: Whats on your menu for the Jour des M 	=E8res?
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Clara Schumann (was Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's)
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: [LONG] Whaddya think?  Would it sell?
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell? From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 06:59:49 EDT   Hi Glenda.   Sure it will sell. A lot of people don't like Reger----Even more would = like their teacher shot. I would hope there will be the full range of human emotions since we are talking organists. :-)   good luck   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: CONGRATULATIONS, FELIX !!!! From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 07:50:52 -0400   Congratulations, Felix !   On being the newest member of the Curtis Institute Organ Alumni ...... AND....the youngest organist to ever receive a B. Mus. from that institution!     -Doug     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY  
(back) Subject: Re: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's" From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 06:56:12 -0500   Mothers will be acknowledged during the announcements, but I'm playing a = prelude by Clara Schumann: Prelude and Fugue in d, Op. 16, No. 3, which, = though originally a piano work, has so many long pedal points that it = certainly is most effective on the organ. This is transcribed/edited by = Barbara Harbach and is published by Vivace Press (=A9 1993).   Robert Lind=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: T.Desiree' Hines=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 11:35 PM Subject: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"     We are singing Marian hymns and Im doing the Purcell Ceremonial = Trumpet Tune (King Arthur) for postlude.=20   Whats on your tab?    
(back) Subject: Re: Ein Feste Burg From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 08:04:36 -0400   Jarle writes:   "I'll be using four different harmonizations for the five stanzas; Stralsund Gesangebuch, Per Steenberg, and two by Bach. Maybe it's not "musicologically correct", but still it worked very well last time I did it."   Malcolm asks:   Have you some transposing to do, or are they all somehow in the same key? = I would be interested in learning something of the style of Per Steenberg. = Can you describe this, or better still, would you consider bringing along a choral book, or if too bulky, perhaps copies of a few chorals when you = come to OHS and POE in July?   Have you discussed heretofore the Organ you play in your church? I would = be curious, and I expect others would as well. Perhaps the church has a website(?).   All the best,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 4:46 AM Subject: Re: Ein Feste Burg     > The hymnal of the Norwegian State Church does not > include harmonizations, thus the congregational > singing is always monophonic. That makes a possibility > for the organist to use several different > harmonizations in one single hymn. (There is a > "chorale book" for the organist, with harmonizations). > > The chorale book harmonizations are nice, but with a > small organ (like most Norwegian organs) you can't > vary them much. Therefore I sometimes take a chorale > from one of Bach's cantatas, arrange it for organ, and > modify it to suit the local variant of the tune. For > the first hymn on Sunday, "Lovsyng v=E5r Herre" (Lobe > den Herren), I'll be using four different > harmonizations for the five stanzas; Stralsund > Gesangebuch, Per Steenberg, and two by Bach. Maybe > it's not "musicologically correct", but still it > worked very well last time I did it. > > -- > Jarle > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's" From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 05:14:20 -0700 (PDT)     I usually improvise on the tune, On This Day o Beautiful Mother. That = real french sound with the strings in the left and the Harmonic Flute in = the right hand, with cool harmonies (I don't know how to explain it) I = got applause last year after communion. Ill try it again this year.       Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St Champaign, IL 61820 217-390-0158 www.scottmontgomerymusic.net --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs  
(back) Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell? From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:40:47 -0400   On 5/7/04 9:16 PM, "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> wrote:   > Designed to sell much less than a million, but a little ditty I threw = together > today. > We have a new Dorothy Sayers!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell? From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 08:48:45 -0500   Yes! Maybe she can throw in a little Margery Allingham and Iris Murdoch (along with herself) in there, too. Look out, Mark Schweizer!   Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:40 AM Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell?     > We have a new Dorothy Sayers! > > Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell? From: "F. Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 07:58:25 -0600   Good Morning, "gang" We are on the edge of an idea that I had 25 years ago. Having spent a goodly portion of my life as an editor and publisher of technical fodder for our national defense industry, I thought it might be "fun" to engage our staff editors in a "game" story, where each of us writes one chapter and passes the story on to the next person in queue to write another, wherein everything is done has duplicity, all text has double meaning, insinuation is rampant thoughout the discourse of a plot that leads nowhere in particular, except to bring together two of the characters who must behave in a romantic mode of some sort that promises to be elaborately "juicy" but never really matures to any level of intensity, .. . . and none of the editors thought this was a way to engage their brains with a thinly veiled story that had no real meaning, regardless of how challenging it might be to figure out how to continue the story that had just been passed to the next editor in line. We collectively probably know enough stories about organs and their pecularities that could bring two people together in an engaging romance, and figure out how to tell the story in such a way that the reader is left with a question about "why" they would behave the way they do, . . . or otherwise, leaving their reputations open to vindication if exposed to public scrutiny. Now that I have exposed one of my "missing link" experiences from years of writing and publishin, is there any interest in taking part in such a venture, .. . . just for the fun of it? If so, we should, obviously, exchange materials directly, rather than take up the bandwidth of PipeChat with such trivial notation. F. Richard Burt ..    
(back) Subject: RE: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's" From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:00:23 -0500   I had forgotten all about Clara=92s piece =96 what a good idea!   Just because the question suddenly occurred to me - was she a mother? I don't remember mention of children.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (whose godchildren sent her a nice card filled with pictures; if only the kids would do that, but they've been banned from Wal-Mart)   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lind   Mothers will be acknowledged during the announcements,=A0but I'm playing = a prelude by Clara Schumann: Prelude and Fugue in d, Op. 16, No. 3, which, though originally a piano work, has so many long pedal points that it certainly is most effective on the organ. This is=A0transcribed/edited = by Barbara Harbach and is published by Vivace Press (=A9 1993). =A0        
(back) Subject: Re: Whats on your menu for the Jour des M =E8res? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 10:02:57 -0400   My baritone will sing a schlocky Mother's Day solo he found, called "God's Greatest Gift" by Carl Fredrickson. My choir will sing an anthem I wrote based on the setting of Psalm 141, "O Lord Make Haste to Hear My Cry," = found in the 1912 Psalter. It's very bluesy. It has absolutely nothing to do with Mother's Day, but I hadn't thought of planning all the music around that occasion. If I had so thought, I ought to have chosen organ music by women composers, but to do it right I ought to have chosen women composers who were also mothers, and I don't know which were (or are). Looking = ahead to 2005, does anyone know of any maternally-inclined composers?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: one chapter per person (was Whaddya think? Would it sell?) From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:13:11 -0500   Sounds like fun. I've heard a few chapters, built along a similar premise, by NPR people in the past, and it was quite entertaining. I'd be willing = to try in a couple of months when I hope my schedule is a little less demanding. Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: F. Richard Burt <effarbee@verizon.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell?     > Good Morning, "gang" > > We are on the edge of an idea that I had 25 years ago. > Having spent a goodly portion of my life as an editor and > publisher of technical fodder for our national defense > industry, I thought it might be "fun" to engage our staff > editors in a "game" story, where each of us writes one > chapter and passes the story on to the next person in > queue to write another, wherein everything is done has > duplicity, all text has double meaning, insinuation is > rampant thoughout the discourse of a plot that leads > nowhere in particular, except to bring together two of > the characters who must behave in a romantic mode > of some sort that promises to be elaborately "juicy" > but never really matures to any level of intensity, > > . . . and none of the editors thought this was a way > to engage their brains with a thinly veiled story that > had no real meaning, regardless of how challenging > it might be to figure out how to continue the story > that had just been passed to the next editor in line. > > We collectively probably know enough stories about > organs and their pecularities that could bring two > people together in an engaging romance, and figure > out how to tell the story in such a way that the reader > is left with a question about "why" they would behave > the way they do, . . . or otherwise, leaving their reputations > open to vindication if exposed to public scrutiny. > > Now that I have exposed one of my "missing link" > experiences from years of writing and publishin, is > there any interest in taking part in such a venture, > . . . just for the fun of it? If so, we should, obviously, > exchange materials directly, rather than take up the > bandwidth of PipeChat with such trivial notation. > > F. Richard Burt    
(back) Subject: Clara Schumann (was Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's) From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:21:03 -0500   I wondered about progeny, too. Here's a cut-and-paste from Google:   -Robert Schumann came to live and study with Wieck [Clara's father] in 18= 30, and asked permission to marry Clara in 1837; Wieck objected, and did all = he could to prevent the wedding before Clara's 21st birthday when she would = be legally able without his consent; Robert and Clara filed a lawsuit, and w= on, but out of spite went ahead and married the day before her birthday, September 12, 1840. -They first lived in Leipzig where they both taught in the Conservatory there; they moved to Dresden in 1844, to D=FCsseldorf in 1850. -Their children were: Marie (1841-1929), Elise (1843-1928), Julie (1845-7= 2), Emil (1846-47), Ludwig (1848-99), Ferdinand (1849-91), Eugenie (1851-1938= ), Felix (1854-79).   Eight children. Good Lord, deliver us! Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 9:00 AM Subject: RE: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"     > I had forgotten all about Clara's piece - what a good idea! > > Just because the question suddenly occurred to me - was she a mother? = I > don't remember mention of children. > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com > (whose godchildren sent her a nice card filled with pictures; if only > the kids would do that, but they've been banned from Wal-Mart) > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Robert Lind > > Mothers will be acknowledged during the announcements, but I'm playing = a > prelude by Clara Schumann: Prelude and Fugue in d, Op. 16, No. 3, which= , > though originally a piano work, has so many long pedal points that it > certainly is most effective on the organ. This is transcribed/edited by > Barbara Harbach and is published by Vivace Press (=A9 1993). > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > _____________________________________________________ > This message scanned for viruses by CoreComm > >    
(back) Subject: Carolus Andreas From: "Peter Underwood" <pgunderwood@wol.co.za> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:31:48 +0200   I am a new subscriber to the list. Can anyone supply me with brief biographical details of the 16th century polyphonic composer Carolus Andreas? All I know of his music is his Canticles using fauxbourdon. I should like to amplify this somewhat sketchy information. ************************************************ Peter G. Underwood Cape Town pgunderwood@wol.co.za    
(back) Subject: Copies available? From: "Peter Underwood" <pgunderwood@wol.co.za> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 16:35:45 +0200   I should like to purchase two second-hand copies of the ORGAN edition of "Hymns ancient and modern revised" (NOT the "New standard"). It is now out-of-print, hence my request in the hope that someone is on the point of discarding some. ************************************************ Peter G. Underwood Cape Town pgunderwood@wol.co.za    
(back) Subject: Re: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's" From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:38:40 -0500   Desiree'- Glad SOMEONE else is singing Marian hymns. For once, I actually checked my hymns with the pastor a week ahead of time to make sure he didn't have a problem with focusing on Mary's love for Her Son. I think the Gospel about love is very appropriate for Mother's Day and opens up a lot of possibilities for hymns, inclucing hymns about our Lady.   Our music is as follows:   Prelude: Hail, Mary   Opening hymn: Sing of Mary   Offeratory: Sing We of the Blessed Mary (Omne Die) Communion: Christians, Let Us Love One Another (Picardy)   Closing: Love Divine   Postlude: Christ lag in Todesbanden (or maybe something else)   Alicia Zeilenga "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's"   > We are singing Marian hymns and Im doing the Purcell Ceremonial Trumpet > Tune (King Arthur) for postlude. > > Whats on your tab? > > > From Desiree' > T. Desiree' Hines > Chicago, IL 60610 > ---------------------------- > For Compositions by Desiree' > Frog Music Press > www.frogmusic.com > ------------------------------- > FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' > http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs      
(back) Subject: RE: Copies available? From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 09:56:18 -0500   abebooks.com lists several copies of Hymns Ancient and Modern Revised Full Music Edition. Most are located in the UK   michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Peter Underwood Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 9:36 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Copies available?     I should like to purchase two second-hand copies of the ORGAN edition of "Hymns ancient and modern revised" (NOT the "New standard"). It is now out-of-print, hence my request in the hope that someone is on the point of discarding some. ************************************************ Peter G. Underwood Cape Town pgunderwood@wol.co.za        
(back) Subject: RE: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell? From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 10:26:54 -0500   I'll be glad to write the sex scenes, Dick. And I'm really good with murder, just as long as no animals are harmed.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of F. Richard Burt We are on the edge of an idea that I had 25 years ago. Having spent a goodly portion of my life as an editor and publisher of technical fodder for our national defense industry, I thought it might be "fun" to engage our staff editors in a "game" story, where each of us writes one chapter and passes the story on to the next person in queue to write another, wherein everything is done has duplicity, all text has double meaning, insinuation is rampant thoughout the discourse of a plot that leads nowhere in particular, except to bring together two of the characters who must behave in a romantic mode of some sort that promises to be elaborately "juicy" but never really matures to any level of intensity,     [snip] Now that I have exposed one of my "missing link" experiences from years of writing and publishin, is there any interest in taking part in such a venture, .. . . just for the fun of it? If so, we should, obviously, exchange materials directly, rather than take up the bandwidth of PipeChat with such trivial notation.        
(back) Subject: Glenda's fiction From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:32:54 -0400   As they say: "You go girl!" I think you're off to a good start. Let's hear more. I was reminded of the "Homer Kelly" murder mystery series written by Jane Langton, one of which pertains to an organist. I'm inspired to re-read it.   David Baker    
(back) Subject: General Comments as a whole From: "Milo R. Shepherd" <mrstwin2@cox.net> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:55:19 -0400   Why is it that some people just have to have so much venom in their comments? A discussion that went private for me was so out of courtesy = and full of venom I actually wondered how the person could claim they were a follower of Christ. Thankfully I know that it is up to me to accept the insult or not. I chose not to but I want to put it out to the board the following question: If we as organists are to know our church and to know what is acceptable or not in music, isn't it also up to us as organists to follow the teachings prescribed in the Holy Bible and other sacred writs = and treat each other as human beings and not be put down because someone has harsh feelings toward one belief or another?      
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Search From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:08:00 -0400   At 04:51 PM 2004-05-07 -0700, you wrote: >That organ is 194 ranks of pipes and i think that only a few pedal stops >are digital. I will never forget the countless stories i heard about the >CPU going out on DIANE BISH at the National AGO Hi,   If you are talking about the large church in Houston with the Rodgers, it was built before Rodgers used digital tone generation. My guess is that there are analog tone generators in it.   Also, it is known that Rodgers lost a huge amount of money on that project. Apparently a lot of pipes came from Europe and there was a huge currency swing from the time the contract was signed and when the pipes arrived.   Arie V.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263      
(back) Subject: Re: Whats on your menu for the Jo ur des M =E8res? From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:33:14 -0700       Randolph Runyon wrote:   > My baritone will sing a schlocky Mother's Day solo he found, called = "God's > Greatest Gift" by Carl Fredrickson.   I have a real problem with that text, and yes, I have it in a collection.   God's greatest gift was NOT mothers, but His Son Jesus Christ.   I'd be VERY wary of singing it in a orthodox Trinitarian Christian church, even on Mother's Day. In fact, I wouldn't do it. It's heretical.   Cheers,   Bud        
(back) Subject: Re: Carolus Andreas From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 09:34:13 -0700   Fauxbourdons? (pricks up ears)   May I have a copy, pretty please?   Cheers,   Bud   Peter Underwood wrote:   > I am a new subscriber to the list. Can anyone supply me with brief > biographical details of the 16th century polyphonic composer Carolus > Andreas? All I know of his music is his Canticles using fauxbourdon. I > should like to amplify this somewhat sketchy information. > ************************************************ > Peter G. Underwood > Cape Town > pgunderwood@wol.co.za > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Organist Search From: <Rachmaninoff45@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 12:34:05 EDT   Rodgers really didn't make a lot of money. Mainly, it had a lot of = problems right off the bat after the installation. Poor Diane Bish, sh is afraid = of Houston. Every time she comes here, something goes wrong with one of her recitals and its because of organs going bad on her.     Best Regards, Gregory Hinson    
(back) Subject: Re: Whats on your menu for the Jour des M =E8res? From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 12:37:13 -0400   Bud, you are absolutely right.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 5/8/04 12:33 PM, quilisma@cox.net at quilisma@cox.net wrote:   > > > Randolph Runyon wrote: > >> My baritone will sing a schlocky Mother's Day solo he found, called = "God's >> Greatest Gift" by Carl Fredrickson. > > I have a real problem with that text, and yes, I have it in a = collection. > > God's greatest gift was NOT mothers, but His Son Jesus Christ. > > I'd be VERY wary of singing it in a orthodox Trinitarian Christian > church, even on Mother's Day. In fact, I wouldn't do it. It's heretical. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Clara Schumann (was Whats on your menu for Jour de Mama's) From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 13:23:33 -0400   At 10:21 AM 5/8/2004, you wrote: >I wondered about progeny, too. Here's a cut-and-paste from Google: > >-Robert Schumann came to live and study with Wieck [Clara's father] in= 1830, >and asked permission to marry Clara in 1837; Wieck objected, and did all he >could to prevent the wedding before Clara's 21st birthday when she would be >legally able without his consent; Robert and Clara filed a lawsuit, and= won, >but out of spite went ahead and married the day before her birthday, >September 12, 1840. >-They first lived in Leipzig where they both taught in the Conservatory >there; they moved to Dresden in 1844, to D=FCsseldorf in 1850. >-Their children were: Marie (1841-1929), Elise (1843-1928), Julie= (1845-72), >Emil (1846-47), Ludwig (1848-99), Ferdinand (1849-91), Eugenie (1851-1938), >Felix (1854-79). > >Eight children. Good Lord, deliver us! >Bob Lind   Could having eight children be the cause of sending poor old Robert=20 Schumann off his rocker? It would have sent me a bit barmy, - we had only= =20 three. and they could drive us nuts!!   Bob Conway=20    
(back) Subject: Re: [LONG] Whaddya think? Would it sell? From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:46:05 EDT   In a message dated 5/8/2004 11:29:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, gksjd85@direcway.com writes:   > I'll be glad to write the sex scenes   must be inclusive here now......   dale in florida