PipeChat Digest #4506 - Tuesday, May 18, 2004
 
Re: The Church of England expands in France
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Victorian English pipe organ for sale on e-bay
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: The Church of England expands in France
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Colorado casavant
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: The Church of England expands in France
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: changes in Bach
  by "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com>
Re: changes in Bach
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Colorado casavant
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: The Church of England expands in France From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:48:41 -0400   Interesting! There are some parishes worldwide that do run on Veuve Clicquot, so I think you are on to something.   I don't know how long it has been there, but there has been, for a reasonably long time, St. George's Anglican Church in Paris. http://www.stgeorgesparis.com/ The Choir Director is listed as Dr. Peter Hicks, and the Organist: Michael Fulcher. I visited this church some years ago, to hear an Organ recital, following a listing in the newspaper. I was with a friend, and I am afraid we were exactly half the audience. The name of the woman who played (very well) will not return to memory. She was = among the semi-famous. Nor do I recall anything at all about the Organ, other = than that it was not hideous. Google will also find you something about the Anglican Church in Europe. The Empire may be gone, but it is possible that the sun never sets on the Anglican Church!   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:18 PM Subject: The Church of England expands in France     > There was an article in today's Daily Telegraph about > a growing branch of the Church of England in France > amongst the ex-patriate community. It reports the fact > that they celebrate traditional C of E services, > including hymns, mentions one of the villages (Magn=E9) > and shows a photograph of the inside of the church. It > would be interesting to know what the organ is. > Cavaille Coll or Veuve Clicquot perhaps? > John Foss > > "Yesterday about 60 of the flock congregated for > Sunday Communion in a borrowed Roman Catholic church > in the village of Magn=E9, set in verdant countryside > south of Poitiers." > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=3D/news/2004/05/17/nchur17.x= ml&sSheet=3D/news/2004/05/17/ixhome.html > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > www.johnfoss.gr > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ > Topics of the week : Point and Counterpoint The Never Ending Story > Strauss's "Alpine Symphony" CD and DVD death > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" > your friends today! Download Messenger Now > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Victorian English pipe organ for sale on e-bay From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 16:37:16 -0700   http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D12&item=3D37231170= 78&rd=3D1   Sadly, the church is being turned into a youth cafe, according to the accompanying history.   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: The Church of England expands in France From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 19:07:53 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:48 PM Subject: Re: The Church of England expands in France     > Interesting! There are some parishes worldwide that do run on Veuve > Clicquot, so I think you are on to something. > > I don't know how long it has been there, but there has been, for a > reasonably long time, St. George's Anglican Church in Paris. > http://www.stgeorgesparis.com/   I think France first started getting some sizeable Anglican congregations after the Napoleonic Wars in the early nineteenth century. There is a = brief history of European Anglicanism at http://justus.anglican.org/resources/pc/england/sharp_gibraltar.html      
(back) Subject: Colorado casavant From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:58:09 -0500   Can't remember where we were chatting about large Casavant trackers in Colorado. The recording I have is of the Casavant at Fort = Collins--Colorado State University.   It's a cassette tape, bought it from OHS, of Robert Cavarra, copyrighted 1993, SGC Music Productions.   I can't fault the playing, and Casavant builds fine instruments........but this is a 1968 "Phelpsavant," and I can't help saying, "What WERE they thinking?" The texture is thin, the sounds harsh, and the chiff sounds = like a tuberculosis ward of decades ago. Just my personal opinion, of course.   In fact, I can't bear to listen to it anymore. First one who tells me = they want the cassette, I'll send it to you free!   Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats    
(back) Subject: Re: The Church of England expands in France From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 20:17:58 -0700     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> > I don't know how long it has been there, but there has been, for a > reasonably long time, St. George's Anglican Church in Paris. > http://www.stgeorgesparis.com/ The Choir Director is listed as Dr. = Peter > Hicks, and the Organist: Michael Fulcher. I visited this church some = years > ago, to hear an Organ recital, following a listing in the newspaper. I = was > with a friend, and I am afraid we were exactly half the audience. The = name > of the woman who played (very well) will not return to memory. She was among > the semi-famous. Nor do I recall anything at all about the Organ, other than > that it was not hideous.   According to Les Orgues de Paris, the organ is a 1980 II/31 tracker by Collomb. No idea who they are, but the stop nomenclature is German. = (Perhaps odd for an English church in France....)   MAF    
(back) Subject: Re: changes in Bach From: "Ray Ahrens" <Ray_Ahrens@msn.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:29:33 -0500   Organs don't play Bach, organists do. Perhaps it is the run-of-the-mill = organist that causes the organ to sound tedious. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: quilisma@cox.net=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: Re: changes in Bach       In the matter of manual and registration changes, I was at pains to=20 point out in my original posting that the run-of-the-mill American=20 electro-pneumatic organ CANNOT play Bach without manual and/or=20 registration changes. The sound IS too tedious. That is the fault of = the=20 organs, not of the music.      
(back) Subject: Re: changes in Bach From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 21:04:16 -0700   I have to agree with that (chuckle) ... I heard both Anton Heiller AND Luigi Tagliavini wring the most EXQUISITE music out of a dull, lumbering Mack Truck of an EP in Cincinnati.   Heiller played on All Souls' Day, and his final piece was an improvised organ symphony on the submitted themes of Dies irae and In paradisum ... it ended quietly, and the audience just sat ... stunned. That was TRULY one of the high points of my musical life, and I still remember it, thirty years later.   It wasn't generally known that Heiller was a superb improviser in the Gregorian tradition, albeit MUCH different from the French post-romantics.   Cheers,   Bud   Ray Ahrens wrote:   > Organs don't play Bach, organists do. Perhaps it is the run-of-the-mill =   > organist that causes the organ to sound tedious. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: quilisma@cox.net <mailto:quilisma@cox.net> > To: PipeChat <mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: changes in Bach > > > In the matter of manual and registration changes, I was at pains to > point out in my original posting that the run-of-the-mill American > electro-pneumatic organ CANNOT play Bach without manual and/or > registration changes. The sound IS too tedious. That is the fault of > the > organs, not of the music. >      
(back) Subject: Re: Colorado casavant From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 22:29:55 -0700 (PDT)   We have two fine examples of 1965 casavant in Champaign. More mixtures = than you know what to do with....but that was the style at the time.   "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> wrote:Can't remember = where we were chatting about large Casavant trackers in Colorado. The recording I have is of the Casavant at Fort = Collins--Colorado State University.   It's a cassette tape, bought it from OHS, of Robert Cavarra, copyrighted 1993, SGC Music Productions.   I can't fault the playing, and Casavant builds fine instruments........but this is a 1968 "Phelpsavant," and I can't help saying, "What WERE they thinking?" The texture is thin, the sounds harsh, and the chiff sounds = like a tuberculosis ward of decades ago. Just my personal opinion, of course.   In fact, I can't bear to listen to it anymore. First one who tells me they want the cassette, I'll send it to you free!   Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.