PipeChat Digest #4514 - Saturday, May 22, 2004
 
RE: Dial-A-Reed
  by "Mark Hopper" <mlhopper@msn.com>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Dial-A-Reed
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Dial-A-Reed
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com>
RE: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Dial-A-Reed
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
removal
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Dial-A-Reed
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: removal
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Wagner - Das Liebesmahl der Apostel
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
AC Midmer-Losh to be Saved
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Violin
  by "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Free pipe organ in Greensboro, NC
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
dial-a-reed and such
  by "James Nerstheimer" <enigma1685@yahoo.com>
Re: Music for D-day Anniversary
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Wagner - Das Liebesmahl der Apostel
  by "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Dial-A-Reed From: "Mark Hopper" <mlhopper@msn.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:27:16 -0400   My favorite spoof-ad ever printed in the Diapason was for the "Pulpit = Unison Off"...wouldn't that come in handy now-and-then?!?!?!?   Ciao, Mark   Mark L. Hopper Associate Minister of Music and Organist The First Baptist Church 205 West Winder Street PO Box 75 Henderson, NC 27536 Church-(252) 438-3172 Home-(252) 492-6774 Fax-(252) 438-3710 markhopper@ncol.net    
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:27:11 -0400   On 5/22/04 4:28 AM, "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:   > I have been thinking about suitable music for D-day Anniversary = services.   Slightly awkward confluence of events. I'd like to see the event = remembered too. And yet, it's also Trinity Sunday, of some import especially among northern Europeans and Americans for some reason I haven't figured out.   I'll be listening for suggestions.   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Dial-A-Reed From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:40:18 -0400   I've never heard of such a devise being in the Casavant factory. I am = aware though, that a lot of the employees at Casavant have an unusual sense of humour and it might explain the rumour of the tongue machine. I remember speaking to a sincere old man who remembered a crew from Casavant setting = up a new organ in his church in the 1950's. He was very impressed with their standards of workmanship. In fact, one = day when he was watching them finish the job he claimed the foreman said " OH NO, there's one screw left over. Start taking the organ apart". He = honestly thought they took the organ apart until they found the vacant screw hole! AjM          
(back) Subject: Re: Dial-A-Reed From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 08:46:20 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Hopper" <mlhopper@msn.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:27 AM Subject: RE: Dial-A-Reed     > My favorite spoof-ad ever printed in the Diapason was for the "Pulpit Unison > Off"...wouldn't that come in handy now-and-then?!?!?!?   I don't know. If there was a pulpit octave and suboctave this could be = even worse than having the unison on.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:48:05 -0400   At 09:27 AM 5/22/2004, Alan wrote: > And yet, it's also Trinity Sunday, of some import especially among >northern Europeans and Americans for some reason I haven't figured out.   The importance of Trinity Sunday is that by and large school is out, which =   often means Choir duty is out as well! or, at least, one can skip choir some Sundays during the Summer.   Besides, isn't Trinity Sunday of some importance in the Church Year's calendar? How else will we ever know which Sunday after Trinity we are on =   if there was no Trinity Sunday! It must be the longest season in the Church calendar.   Bob Conway      
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:08:05 -0500   Last year for Memorial Day I used the "Navy Hymn" (Eternal Father, Strong = to Save) with great effectiveness. I have a MIDI synth tied into my organ = that has excellent slow strings, and used those on the hymn. I played one pass through on th hymn using many passing tones and suspensions, then = beginning over the final chord of the hymn I played "Taps" on a solo reed. On the = next to last phrase of "Taps" I returned to the strings in sort of a swelling phrase, then on the final phrase I returned to the reed but played chords underneath on the strings. This was simple to do but was very much well-received by the congregation.   --Richard Huggins    
(back) Subject: RE: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 02:08:47 +1200     >> And yet, it's also Trinity Sunday, of some import especially among >>northern Europeans and Americans for some reason I haven't figured out.   >Besides, isn't Trinity Sunday of some importance in the Church Year's calendar?   I hope both these are merely cynical comments of no importance.   Trinity Sunday is one of the most important dates in the Calendar, as it celebrates the Three-in-One, the One-in-Three understanding of the nature = of God. The Trinity is the very basis of our faith as Christians.   It annoys me that these days people often downgrade this so much that we = now have "Sundays in Ordinary Time", or "Sundays after Pentecost", instead "Sundays after Trinity". Too, I've read on various Chat-Lists that clergy often keep away from Trinity Sunday if they can, giving the service to someone else to take, and not wanting to preach on the Trinity if they do take the Service. I almost begin to feel as if these people have traded = the Trinity for something else, be it Unitarianism, deism, tri-theism, or whatever.   Ross   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.689 / Virus Database: 450 - Release Date: 21/05/2004    
(back) Subject: RE: Dial-A-Reed From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 02:13:15 +1200     >> My favorite spoof-ad ever printed in the Diapason was for the "Pulpit Unison >> Off"...wouldn't that come in handy now-and-then?!?!?!?   >I don't know. If there was a pulpit octave and suboctave this could be even >worse than having the unison on.   These would indeed be most valuable couplers, or rather, uncouplers. Mind you, as a clergyman as well as an organist, I would also sometimes rather like to have a "Music Off" knob at my prayer desk, and an additional knob = of the same kind on the altar. :-) This knob would turn the entire power in the church off, so microphones = and suchlike pests would also be disabled. :-) :-)   Ross   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.689 / Virus Database: 450 - Release Date: 21/05/2004    
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 10:24:46 -0400   On 5/22/04 9:48 AM, "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote:   > The importance of Trinity Sunday is that by and large school is out, = which > often means Choir duty is out as well! or, at least, one can skip choir > some Sundays during the Summer. > > Besides, isn't Trinity Sunday of some importance in the Church Year's > calendar? How else will we ever know which Sunday after Trinity we are = on > if there was no Trinity Sunday! It must be the longest season in the > Church calendar.   Reasonable, Bob!   Used to be [the longest] at least. But I understand that it's no longer called "Trinity Season," but is just long ("ordinary") time, not a season = at all, but a slough of "Sundays after Pentecost" (with a few exceptions, depending on your calendar).   But seriously, folks: I have the impression that "Trinity" is big in the British and Scandinavian countries, compared to RC countries in southern Europe. There must be an historical reason for that. Can it be just St. Patrick's influence?   Alan    
(back) Subject: removal From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 23 May 2004 02:58:38 +1200   Dear List, It was with sad heart that I learned a couple of days ago of the demise of another organ this week. Although the instrument is not destroyed, and is = to be sold, a church here has dismantled its organ and installed a 3m = electroid to replace what they've had since the 1890s. The new "organ" cost = NZ$85,000, a 3m Rodgers thingie, and the church expects to get about NZ$3000 for the old organ, which is in very good condition:   GREAT 8 Open Diapason 8 Claribel Flute 8 Dulciana 4 Principal 4 Harmonic Flute 2 2/3 Twelfth (1961, replacing a Clarinet) 2 Fifteenth (1961, replacing a Flautino)   SWELL 16 Double Diapason (stopt wood) 8 Violin Diapason 8 Rohr Flute (wood) 8 Gamba 8 Voix Celeste (TenC) 4 Gemshorn 4 Lieblich Flute (stopt) 8 Horn (rather Trumpet-like) 8 Oboe   PEDAL 16 Open Diapason (big-scale metal) 16 Bourdon (wood) 8 Bass Flute (extn Bdn)   The console is a detached stopkey one from the 1960s, as the organ was electrified back then, the original slider chests being retained and still being in good order. The Vicar tells me they wanted the organ out of the = way (actually, it's hidden in a chamber and not one pipe is visible) and = "need" things like a "Roland piano playable from the new organ's keys". They did not even consider keeping the organ. Needless to say, I'm trying to = acquire it and will travel to the town on Monday, some 150km journey each way.   The organ, by the way, was built by Hobday, a NZ builder who trained in = the UK, and then became part of the renowned Oz firm of Fincham. Fincham = himself was trained by Telford of Dublin. There are many Hobday instruments in NZ and, while not overly impressed by Hobday tone, I have to say they have produced much of good quality that is still functioning well, though = usually electrified by now.   Ross   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.689 / Virus Database: 450 - Release Date: 21/05/2004    
(back) Subject: RE: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:39:32 -0400   At 10:08 AM 5/22/2004, Ross wrote:   > >> And yet, it's also Trinity Sunday, of some import especially among > >>northern Europeans and Americans for some reason I haven't figured = out. > > >Besides, isn't Trinity Sunday of some importance in the Church Year's >calendar? > >I hope both these are merely cynical comments of no importance.   I don't know about Alan's comment, (the first one), but my own comments were decidedly cynical comments. Up here, in Canada, Trinity Sunday is given its full due as a reason for the "Three in One" doctrine, - or, at least by the Anglicans!   I have never heard of a Minister passing the Trinity Sunday services to any-one else for the reasons that were stated, - but I suppose that it is conceivable, for the doctrine is not the easiest to explain, - but neither =   is the doctrine of the Virgin Birth.   Of course, in some cases, a priest might want to include himself in the Triumvirate! There are a lot of cases that seem to display that = principle!   However, for me, there will always be Trinity Sunday, - there is no "Ordinary Time" in my understanding!   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Re: Dial-A-Reed From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:50:47 EDT     Engage brain. Think. Draw conclusion. Rest.  
(back) Subject: Re: removal From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:10:32 EDT   Ross,   Why are they not keeping the pipework and just interfacing the Rodgers 3M =   thingie with the existing pipes? They are absolutely doing the wrong thing = by selling the pipe organ. What a disgrace.   Sincerely,   Daniel Port Orange, FL    
(back) Subject: Wagner - Das Liebesmahl der Apostel From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:24:19 -0400   Having spent a month-plus in Dresden and gradually realizing Wagner's background there, I'd enjoy getting a recording of the above work, which Wagner composed there and premiered dort in der Frauenkirche, which is now in final stages of rebuilding after W. W. II bomb damage.   I cannot find a recording, though perhaps I look at the wrong places. Can anyone refer me to a CD or available LP of this rather unfamiliar work for men's chorus and orchestra? It will likely have other works on the same Cd or LP.   Danke sch=F6n.=20 =20 Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: AC Midmer-Losh to be Saved From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 11:25:05 -0500   The following is from the Press of Atlantic City. i don't normally forward full articles but this one I thought should be forwarded.   David   ******************************************************************** Press of Atlantic City, The (NJ)   May 20, 2004 Section: Region Edition: Atlantic & Cumberland Page: C1   IN A-CHORD: FAMOUS ATLANTIC CITY PIPE ORGAN TO BE SAVED DONALD WITTKOWSKI Staff Writer, (609) 272-7258   Efforts are under way to restore the largest and loudest musical instrument ever built.   A colossal restoration plan for the world's largest organ is no longer a pipe dream.   Key parts of the famous Midmer-Losh pipe organ are in "disastrous" shape, but it is not too late to save the instrument, preservationists said Wednesday as they kicked off a restoration effort that will cost millions of dollars.   The organ, recognized by the Guinness Book of Records as the largest and loudest musical instrument ever built, has been decaying inside Atlantic City's Boardwalk Hall for decades and has not been played for more than five years. A newly formed nonprofit group called the Historic Organ Restoration Committee Inc. estimates it will cost at least $10 million to refurbish the Midmer-Losh and a smaller historic Kimball pipe organ also housed in Boardwalk Hall.   Committee members held their first meeting Wednesday to begin the planning for an arduous restoration campaign that will take an estimated five to 15 years to complete. This is considered the most serious effort to save the organ after years of debate.   "This is a labor of love, because this is one of the greatest organs in the world," said L. Curt Mangel III, an organ expert and vice president of the restoration committee.   The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, the state agency that owns Boardwalk Hall and oversees the organ, has placed $1.1 million in an escrow fund to begin restoration. The authority has accepted responsibility for damage to the Midmer-Losh that occurred during the $90 million renovation of Boardwalk Hall three years ago.   Mangel argued that the sports authority should not be blamed for the organ's deterioration. He said the instrument had been decaying for many years, long before the authority took charge of its care.   "There are sections of the organ that are disastrous, but that's the way it has been for a long time because of deferred maintenance. Blame should not be placed on their head," Mangel said.   Mangel, curator of the famed Wanamaker organ in Philadelphia, explained that the Midmer-Losh includes special pipes, chest work and blowing mechanisms not found in any other instrument in the world.   "It has an awful lot of very unique and brilliant features that make it one of a kind," he said. "That's what makes it so extraordinary."   Midmer-Losh Organ Co. of Merrick, N.Y., spent nearly four years building the instrument at a cost of $347,200, a huge sum during the Depression. The instrument was completed in 1932, three years after the grand opening of Boardwalk Hall, then known as Atlantic City Convention Hall.   Damage to the organ was caused by the building's old leaky roof, since repaired. The instrument's labyrinth-like network of chambers and 33,112 pipes also suffered damage during Boardwalk Hall's renovation project.   The Historic Organ Restoration Committee hopes to secure public grant money to supplement its private fund-raising efforts. It has already made application for a $1 million grant from Save America's Treasures, a public-private partnership between the National Park Service and the National Trust for Historic Preservation.   Joanne Cocchiola, a New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority attorney, said the restoration committee will meet again in about two months to discuss recommendations for refurbishing the organ. Later, a formal restoration plan will be submitted to the National Park Service, which must give its approval because Boardwalk Hall is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.   "Everyone is very, very enthusiastic," said Cocchiola, who also serves as chairwoman of the restoration committee. "I'm sure everyone is going to work very hard to get this done."   Jeffrey S. Vasser, the executive director of the Atlantic City Convention & Visitors Authority, said the organizational structure is now in place to begin the fund-raising efforts needed to save the organ.   "Grants are very high on our list," said Vasser, also a member of the restoration committee. "I think there are a lot of opportunities for grants, but we also want to tap into the huge group of people who support the organ."   Copyright, 2004, South Jersey Publishing Company t/a The Press of Atlantic = City  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:44:00 -0400   It's not quite clear to me to which side of the Big Pond this discussion pertains. If to America, permit the following comment:   Should the Church be celebrating ANY battle in the "Left Hand of God,", i.e., the earthly kingdom? Isn't the Church about the "Right Hand of = God," i.e., about the work of Word and Sacraments, about Law and Gospel? Sure, the Church should and MUST prepare her members to go out into the world = and serve their fellow mankind in whatever ways, perhaps even to honor those = who in civil life and military life have served their fellow citizens. But we do badly to confuse the two "hands" of God within the life of the Church.   For good reading on all this, see the very important work by Richard Niebuhr, _Christ and Culture_, in which the above stance is discussed as "Christ and Culture in Paradox," reflecting various teaching of Jesus, = such as "My kingdom is not of this world." Today we are so taken in by what Niebuhr calls "Christ Transforming Culture," i.e., the idea that we must bring Christ's kingdom here and now, even against the expressed wishes of those who prefer something else, as to not recognize its scriptural inadequacy.   Christ teaches us how WE shall live. He never teaches us how to force other people to live; rather, he teaches us to exemplify the proper, Christian life to those folks -- "Let your light so shine..." -- so that = in Christian freedom they come both to Christ and to the Christian life as a matter of conviction and love of Christ, rather than to be coerced into it by civil law.   Bush & friends are stuck in this mode of Christ transforming the = culture according to "conservative Christian" principles, which are sometiems FAR from biblical, orthodox Christian principles. That's why, for example, Bush has called for the federal gov't to get involved in what is in = American essentially a states-rights issue, i.e., definitions, controls, etc., of marriage. But the mind-set there is that the civil gov't should effect = laws to force "those sinful people" to do things "right." They forget Jesus' teaching in the parable of the wheat and the tares: to let them both grow until the final day. (O.K.: tares cannot change, whereas sinful people CAN change; but that change must be a change of the heart, and if not that, = then the "tares" [those "sinful people"] must be permitted to proceed until the final judgment, when God will take care of them Himself.)   So I must wonder why the Church would get involved in celebrations of civil matters. Admittedly, in England this mix of Church and State has = long standing, deeply-rooted history to it, even to the extent of the newly-crowned monarch placing the sword on the altar. But in America the issue is quite different. Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Violin From: "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:02:01 -0700   " Any advice appreciated." and so said my posting of a few days ago. I = want to thank all who replied, such great comments!!. One reason I enjoy = Pipechat is the range of comments, what ever the subject. Someone always = can find a different angle to your question or comment, and that adds = the extra sparkle to this site. Thanks again...  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:37:05 -0400   On 5/22/04 11:39 AM, "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote:   > I don't know about Alan's comment, (the first one), but my own comments w= ere > decidedly cynical comments. Up here, in Canada, Trinity Sunday is given = its > full due as a reason for the "Three in One" doctrine, - or, at least by t= he > Anglicans!   Ross, I'm happy to offer my re-assuring remarks as well. I HAVE heard it said that mainline Christianity is de-emphasizing trinitarian theology, but certainly not in mid-Manhattan Lutheran parishes. I think ours is the only denomination in Christendom that at a Sunday parish mass continues the old monastic (?) custom (at Matins?) of reciting (either responsively or antiphonally) the ENTIRE Athanasian Creed on Trinity Sunday (not necessaril= y every year, though).   It=B9s almost preposterous=8Bthe very non-21st century language of it! We almost LAUGH at it, as we wind up, =B3. . . This the catholic faith. One cannot be saved without believing this firmly and faithfully.=B2 But it=B9s a SERIOUS almost-laugh: we have the sense that we=B9ve just said something AWFULLY important!   And, indeed, with you, I believe we HAVE.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Free pipe organ in Greensboro, NC From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:50:12 -0400   This was posted to Hamtech this morning. I dunno anything more about it. Good luck!   Have fun! Ad ;->       >My brother-in-law just called to say there is a free pipe organ in >Greensboro, NC. Apparently an older gentleman removed this organ from a >church and restored it. Now he just wants to find a good home for it. > >Here is the contact info he gave me: > >Catherine Hosse >336-294-1179 >jhossesr@aol.com        
(back) Subject: dial-a-reed and such From: "James Nerstheimer" <enigma1685@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:52:25 -0700 (PDT)   I seem to remember one of these ads quite some time ago. It was a = transposer for pipe organs based on "bowling alley pinsetter technology". = Uh huh, and my name is Earl Anthony! jim O):^)     There let the pealing organ blow To the full voic=92d quire below, In service high, and anthems cleer, And may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into extasies, And bring all Heav=92n before mine eyes.     --John Milton --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70/year  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for D-day Anniversary From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 16:04:05 EDT   In a message dated 5/22/2004 3:37:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > think ours is the only denomination in Christendom that at a Sunday = parish > mass continues the old monastic (?) custom (at Matins?) of reciting = (either > responsively or antiphonally) the ENTIRE Athanasian Creed on Trinity = Sunday > (not necessarily every year, though   Our little ELCA in retirement heaven done here does one of the following,   1. recites it in unison   2. Listens to it read   3. Hears is AS the sermon of the day   kinda funky in this day and age but useful.   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Wagner - Das Liebesmahl der Apostel From: "Robert Ehrhardt" <r_ehrh@bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 17:20:32 -0400   Browse to http://berkshirerecordoutlet.com and do a Search on "Liebesmahl" = and you'll find a recording of it by the Dresden Philharmonic{!} conducted = by Michel Plasson on Dutch EMI for $8.99. Cd also contains A Faust = Overture; Siegfried Idyll; Trauersinfonie; Festgesang 'Der Tag Erscheint'; = An Weber's Grabe - 'Hebt an den Sang.' Hurry, as things don't stay in = stock here very long as they deal mostly in "cutouts." (That's = out-of-print recordings for those of you not in the trade.   > > From: Karl Moyer <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> > Date: 2004/05/22 Sat PM 12:24:19 EDT > To: pipechat <pipechat@pipechat.org>, piporg-l > <piporg-l@listserv.Albany.edu>, organchat <organchat@egroups.com>, > Anglican-music <anglican-music@list.stsams.org> > Subject: Wagner - Das Liebesmahl der Apostel > > Having spent a month-plus in Dresden and gradually realizing Wagner's > background there, I'd enjoy getting a recording of the above work, which > Wagner composed there and premiered dort in der Frauenkirche, which is = now > in final stages of rebuilding after W. W. II bomb damage. > > I cannot find a recording, though perhaps I look at the wrong places. = Can > anyone refer me to a CD or available LP of this rather unfamiliar work = for > men's chorus and orchestra? It will likely have other works on the same = Cd > or LP. > > Danke sch=F6n. > > Karl E. Moyer > Lancaster PA > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >