PipeChat Digest #4870 - Tuesday, November 2, 2004
 
Re: Key wedges
  by "cc" <belcanto@brainerd.net>
Re: Sewing Machines and Organs
  by "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com>
Sewing Machines
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
RE: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Second to none
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: A serious discussion
  by <Justinhartz@aol.com>
Re: Tenth Pres. (was Second to None)
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers
  by "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Key wedges
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Key wedges From: "cc" <belcanto@brainerd.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:45:21 -0600   I tried that after the ends broke off, but then they were too big to fit between the keys. I like my little wooden wedges. They work much better.   Carla C     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:33 PM Subject: RE: Key wedges     > It's pretty simple. Break the "end" off the pencil before inserting. = That > way they cannot break off in an unfortunate place. > AjMead > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > cc > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:55 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Key wedges > > > I asked this same question on another organ list, and I was told to use > pencils. Boy, I sure don't know how they ever get that to work! The = ends > just kept breaking off. I had my husband make me some little wood = wedges, > about one inch wide and an inch and a half long. They work great! I = can > usually play the keys next to the wedge if they are not played in > repetition. > > Carla C > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Humbert" <jhumbert@ptd.net> > To: "Pipechat@Pipechat. Org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:29 AM > Subject: Key wedges > > > Dear Esteemed Colleagues, > > One of the pieces that I'm playing for our December Holiday-music > concert requires the use of 2 key wedges. My first question is this, > where do I find and buy these said wedges? Not knowing exactly how > these wedges work (I've been using folded-up pieces of paper to > practice), my other concern is, do they allow the playing of a note > immediately adjacent to one of the wedges? In other words, the upper > wedge is on a B and at 2 points in the music I must play the C right > beside it. Incidentally, the piece is Il Est N=E9 from Dale Woods' > Christmas Pipings book. Any ideas and suggestions would be gratefully > accepted. Thanks in advance, everyone! > > Regards, > Jonathan Humbert > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >      
(back) Subject: Re: Sewing Machines and Organs From: "Scott Montgomery" <montre1978@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:48:53 -0600   Ok Charlie, maybe we are on the same page!! I just re-read your post.     Scott Montgomery 619 W Church St. Champaign, IL 61820 217.390.0158 www.ScottMontgomeryMusic.net    
(back) Subject: Sewing Machines From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:58:13 -0600   As one who collects sewing machines AND loves pipe organs, I do find it an interesting analogy. Generally speaking, the vintage sewing machines from say, 1950-1965 are considered the most durable ever built. And even many 100 year old treadle machines are still quite usable. I have a number of 50+ year old machines that run quite well and will easily last another 50-100 years--even if they were used daily. However, new machines, while they can be very expensive, and they do have lots of gadgets are NOT considered to be durable; generally speaking if they last ten or fifteen years that is considered normal.   So, if sewing machines are like organs, then the tracker backers will win every time on the basis of longevity! Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: RE: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 23:36:09 -0600   Indeed, I seem to recall a teacher telling me that Noehren was one of the few people who keep the trill going in m. 29 31 of the Dorian toccata. = The one that starts on E in the top voice and that most of us stop when the = 16th note pattern begins in the alto line - unless he was playing the alto and tenor line 16ths with the left hand.   michael - Bill Gates thinks "Noehren" should be spelled "Neoprene"     -----Original Message----- From: Pipe Organs and Related Topics [mailto:PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu]On Behalf Of Roger Evans Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 5:14 PM To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu Subject: Re: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers   <snip> I often recall something Noehren (who was not known for any deficient fingers) evidently used to say: Never be afraid to use your best fingers for a figure; don't try as a matter of principle to use your less-efficient fingers.        
(back) Subject: Re: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 00:42:04 EST     In a message dated 11/1/04 11:36:47 PM, michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net writes= :     > Indeed, I seem to recall a teacher telling me that Noehren was one of the > few people who keep the trill going in m. 29 31 of the Dorian toccata.=A0=20= The > one that starts on E in the top voice and that most of us stop when the 16= th > note pattern begins in the alto line - unless he was playing the alto and > tenor line 16ths with the left hand. >=20 > michael - Bill Gates thinks "Noehren" should be spelled "Neoprene" >=20   david schrader does too.       Gregory Ceurvorst 1921 Sherman Ave. #GS Evanston, IL 60201 847.332.2788 home/fax 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com gfc234@nextel.blackberry.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Second to none From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 01:05:39 EST   Just for the record, Tenth presbyterian in Philadelphia isn't on Tenth = street at all. It is on the southwest corner of Spruce and 17th (or is it 16th?). This was indeed one of Elmore's churches, and does not have a pipe organ.   Justin Hartz  
(back) Subject: Re: A serious discussion From: <Justinhartz@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 01:17:21 EST   Good question.   Traditional Hammond tone wheel organs all use the same basic tone = generator. In the two part model series, ie B-3, B-2, etc.the letter refers to the = case style, and the number refers to features. For example, B-2 is a B style = case with seperate vibratos for great and swell. A B-3 is the same instrument, = with "touch percussion". A-100's, B-3's, and C-3's are identical on the inside. You cannot tell = them apart blindfolded. The RT-3,is similar to a C-3 with the addition of a 32 = note pedalboard and the "Pedal Solo Unit".   Hope this helps!   Justin  
(back) Subject: Re: Tenth Pres. (was Second to None) From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 14:42:48 +0800   John Tyler, but that would be an Episcapalian church ... and nobody elected= him. "His Accidency" was the first (not second, so we're off topic agian) = vp to take over the presidency. Wm. Harrison (#9) died after serving one mo= nth.   Working hard to get back on somthing close to topic, Julia Tyler, wife of P= resident John Tyler, and Sara Polk, wife of President James K. Polk, are bo= th credited with being the first to instruct the Marine Band to play "Hail = to the Chief" at presidential appearances.=20   ----- Original Message ----- From: ProOrgo53@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Tenth Pres. (was Second to None) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 23:36:49 EST   > Tenth President or Tenth Presbyterian?????   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: Trilling with the 4th and 5th fingers From: "Jarle Fagerheim" <jarle_fagerheim@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:05:51 +0100   My mother plays the alto and tenor parts in her left hand, continuing the trill in her right hand. She has done so ever since she learned the piece at age 13, and does it pretty well 30 years later ;)   - Jarle http://jarle.moo.no   Michael David wrote: > Indeed, I seem to recall a teacher telling me that Noehren was one of = the > few people who keep the trill going in m. 29 31 of the Dorian toccata. = The > one that starts on E in the top voice and that most of us stop when the = 16th > note pattern begins in the alto line - unless he was playing the alto = and > tenor line 16ths with the left hand. > > michael - Bill Gates thinks "Noehren" should be spelled "Neoprene" >  
(back) Subject: Re: Key wedges From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 15:07:10 +0800     I'd consider rubber piano tuning wedges (or home made) since they are narro= w, inert (no graphite breaking off) and have enough tack to prevent them fr= om accidentally falling out by vibrations or if you tap them with a finger.= Mutes can also be found with a wire handle making them easy to remove quic= kly.   ----- Original Message ----- From: "cc" <belcanto@brainerd.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Re: Key wedges Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:55:06 -0600   >=20 > I asked this same question on another organ list, and I was told to use > pencils. Boy, I sure don't know how they ever get that to work! The ends > just kept breaking off. I had my husband make me some little wood wedges, > about one inch wide and an inch and a half long. They work great! I can > usually play the keys next to the wedge if they are not played in > repetition. >=20 > Carla C >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Jonathan Humbert" <jhumbert@ptd.net> > To: "Pipechat@Pipechat. Org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:29 AM > Subject: Key wedges >=20 >=20 > Dear Esteemed Colleagues, >=20 > One of the pieces that I'm playing for our December Holiday-music > concert requires the use of 2 key wedges. My first question is this, > where do I find and buy these said wedges? Not knowing exactly how > these wedges work (I've been using folded-up pieces of paper to > practice), my other concern is, do they allow the playing of a note > immediately adjacent to one of the wedges? In other words, the upper > wedge is on a B and at 2 points in the music I must play the C right > beside it. Incidentally, the piece is Il Est N=E9 from Dale Woods' > Christmas Pipings book. Any ideas and suggestions would be gratefully > accepted. Thanks in advance, everyone! >=20 > Regards, > Jonathan Humbert >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20 >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >=20 >=20       -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm