PipeChat Digest #4872 - Wednesday, November 3, 2004
 
RE: Key wedges
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Hammond clocks with synchronous motors.
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Quality Builders
  by "Roy Kersey" <rkersey@tds.net>
Andy's Hammond
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
UPCOMING "ENCYCLOPEDIA" REVISITED  (x post)
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
I'm baaaaaaaaaaack
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Five Spirituals
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Hammond Model H
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
All Saints postlude
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Hammond Model H
  by "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com>
Re: Hammond Model H
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: All Saints postlude
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: Hammond Model H
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
RE: Hammond clocks with synchronous motors.
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Key wedges From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:50:19 -0500   Ok. I admit "wedges are better". I just don't have the time to make them.   regards AjMead   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of cc Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:45 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Key wedges     I tried that after the ends broke off, but then they were too big to fit between the keys. I like my little wooden wedges. They work much better.   Carla C     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:33 PM Subject: RE: Key wedges     > It's pretty simple. Break the "end" off the pencil before inserting. = That > way they cannot break off in an unfortunate place. > AjMead > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > cc > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 4:55 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Key wedges > > > I asked this same question on another organ list, and I was told to use > pencils. Boy, I sure don't know how they ever get that to work! The = ends > just kept breaking off. I had my husband make me some little wood = wedges, > about one inch wide and an inch and a half long. They work great! I = can > usually play the keys next to the wedge if they are not played in > repetition. > > Carla C > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jonathan Humbert" <jhumbert@ptd.net> > To: "Pipechat@Pipechat. Org" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 8:29 AM > Subject: Key wedges > > > Dear Esteemed Colleagues, > > One of the pieces that I'm playing for our December Holiday-music > concert requires the use of 2 key wedges. My first question is this, > where do I find and buy these said wedges? Not knowing exactly how > these wedges work (I've been using folded-up pieces of paper to > practice), my other concern is, do they allow the playing of a note > immediately adjacent to one of the wedges? In other words, the upper > wedge is on a B and at 2 points in the music I must play the C right > beside it. Incidentally, the piece is Il Est N=E9 from Dale Woods' > Christmas Pipings book. Any ideas and suggestions would be gratefully > accepted. Thanks in advance, everyone! > > Regards, > Jonathan Humbert > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >       ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>        
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond clocks with synchronous motors. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 18:53:21 -0500   On 11/2/04 5:48 PM, "Voicer40@aol.com" <Voicer40@aol.com> wrote:   > I enjoy having guests over to find the second had runing backwards.   Understood! And totally!   Alan  
(back) Subject: Quality Builders From: "Roy Kersey" <rkersey@tds.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 0:51:40 +0000   Dear Pipechatters, In the recent thread on Sewing Machines vs. Organs, there was a = remark about quality builders across eras differing from Hacks or formula = builders of whatever era. I spent a few hours in the Richards and Fowkes = shop near Chattanooga last week and attended a recital at the Seventh Day = Adventist Church there with the famous four manual Brombaugh (Sietze De = Vries played Buxtehude beautifully, but that's another post . . .), which = I actually got my mitts on for a half hour . . . OOOH! With that = experience, I've had firsthand experience with examining the St. Iggie in = NYC, the current R & F Opus (for Scottsdale, Arizona), a recent Bradley = Rule Opus that went to Columbia, Tennessee, and a local R & F organ at = Westminster Presbyterian here in Knoxville, Tennessee. I also spent a = little time inside the Fritts in Princeton's Chapel last year. These organs just exude quality to such an extent that it is = difficult NOT to see it. The case work is glorious and without a blemish. = The St. Iggie organ actually has staircases in it to the top level . . . = everything has been thought out and thought of, no narrow walkboards. The = Scottsdale organ had telltale touches everywhere . . . dovetails on the = banisters inside the organ (the technician pointed out that there would = have to be a lot of shrinkage going from Tennessee to Arizona and they = didn't want things to split --- every panel in the organ case was a = floating panel, no glue), rounded countersinks where bolts were applied = (no splinters). The wood workers at R & F told me that the fir specified = for the organ case tore out easily and was often a nightmare to work with, = but I couldn't find any blemishes. On the Rule organ for Columbia I was = treated to an explanation of the Aristotelian Golden Section and how the = case was proportioned based on it by Mr.Rule. At ! R & F, a technician was hand cutting dovetails with a Japanese doiku saw = (sp?). The two British pipemakers (sorry I didn't get their names, but my = hearing loss and their British accents didn't mix well) were building = mixtures and I watched pipe after itty bitty pipe built with the same = identical very narrow windways and soldered flawlessly with ancient gas = fired soldering irons. My point? Well, if you get a chance to visit an organ by one of the = really fine builders working today, or one of their shops, you really = should. You will come aways with a better appreciation for real ageless = craftsmanship. (Now to figure out how to get into Gluck's shop in NYC . . = . ) These organs will exist for centuries, even if their solid state stop = actions, in some cases, don't. I want to thank Bruce Fowkes for his = hospitality. Regards, Roy Kersey Organ Enthusiast    
(back) Subject: Andy's Hammond From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 18:50:59 -0600   In this case, Andy, the Leslie is quite possibly worth more than the = organ.   Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: UPCOMING "ENCYCLOPEDIA" REVISITED (x post) From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 20:22:13 EST   Hello all   It was with great excitement that we were all told by Jeff Weiler at the = OHS Convention in Buffalo in July that the much anticipated Wurlitzer volume = of the "Encyclopedia of the American Theatre Organ" that Jeff had been = finishing would indeed "be under your Christmas trees this year."   Any updates or news on this, hopefully in the affirmative?   -Scott   Scott F. Foppiano, Memphis, Tennessee scottfop@aol.com Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.  
(back) Subject: I'm baaaaaaaaaaack From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 17:34:31 -0800   We can't find anything, we can't walk through the rooms, but we're moved; and of COURSE the first thing hooked up was the computer <g>.   It's a LOT nicer and newer than the old place; it's better laid out; it's also CHEAPER <g>.   You MAY have gotten bounced e-mails returned from my e-mail addy; please re-send them. They disconnected us at the old place before we got to the new place.   The e-mail address remains the same; the snail-mail address is:   Raymond H. "Bud" Clark Clyde E. "Burgie" Burgoon 3344 32nd St. San Diego, CA 92104-4738   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Five Spirituals From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:24:31 EST   >Publication information, please.   >Thanks!   >Steve Best in Utica, NY   Published by Calvin Taylor Music Information is on his website: _www.calvintaylormusic.org_ (http://www.calvintaylormusic.org) , but I got my copy of the score at = Brodt Music Company in Charlotte, NC. Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Hammond Model H From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:32:26 EST   >Speaking of Hammonds, I just checked out one that a funeral home is = giving >away. This being my first time touching one, I wasn't sure what I was doing >and had some trouble making it do anything repeatably. I checked out = the >model number, but have already forgotten. H-something, I think. = 25-note >radiating pedal keyboard, 61-note manuals, external Leslie, as well as >internal speakers. White/Black key stop keys on the left in addtion to = the >drawbars. I was thoroughly confused; I did get it to make noise, but >nothing I did made it sound like what I think of when I think "Hammond". = It >is also unbelievably heavy, so I'm not sure how attractive it would be = to a >rock band that has to move it around. >Thoughts from the Hammond experts out there? I have no use for it >whatsoever, but I figured maybe someone might give me money for it, so I =   >might grab it. I suppose in theory I could practice on it. >Andy   Don't waste your money, time, or effort getting a model H Hammond. The = only ones worth anything are B's and C's, early model A's (the ones that look like B's--not A100s), or concert models if they have working pdeal solo = units--a true rarity. If you want to spend a few hundred dollars and have a practice organ for yourself it's one thing, but don't expect to make any money selling it on = Ebay to a Hammond collector. A true Hammond afficianado won't touch one--they = want a vintage model B or a C with a matching vintage Leslie. Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: All Saints postlude From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:58:11 EST   My postlude for this coming week is going to be "Fanfare on Sine Nomine" = by John West, who is the Organst/Artist in Residence at Bel Air Presbyterian = in Los Angeles. The church had been advertising for a new organist, so I'm = not sure if he is still there or not, but according to his website, he is = still listed as being on staff there...I tried to check the church website, but = as of right now, it's down. The Fanfare is a flashy piece, definitely has touches of "Hollywood", I = find it fairly easy to play overall, with just a few difficult spots. I = opened a recital with it this summer, and despite the legitimate literature (Mendelssohn, Franck, Saint-Saens, Dupre, Alain) that followed, this piece = got the most remarks. Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Model H From: "Andy Lawrence" <andy@ablorgans.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:02:24 -0500   Ok, thanks, good advice. But what about the Leslie itself? Worthless? Andy   On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:32:26 EST, RMB10 wrote Speaking of Hammonds, I just checked out one that a funeral home is = giving away. This being my first time touching one, I wasn't sure what I was doing and had some trouble making it do anything repeatably. I checked out the =   model number, but have already forgotten. H-something, I think. 25-note =   radiating pedal keyboard, 61-note manuals, external Leslie, as well as internal speakers. White/Black key stop keys on the left in addtion to = the drawbars. I was thoroughly confused; I did get it to make noise, but nothing I did made it sound like what I think of when I think "Hammond". =   It is also unbelievably heavy, so I'm not sure how attractive it would be to = a rock band that has to move it around. Thoughts from the Hammond experts out there? I have no use for it whatsoever, but I figured maybe someone might give me money for it, so I might grab it. I suppose in theory I could practice on it. Andy > Don't waste your money, time, or effort getting a model H Hammond. > The only ones worth anything are B's and C's, early model A's (the > ones that look like B's--not A100s), or concert models if they have > working pdeal solo units--a true rarity. > > If you want to spend a few hundred dollars and have a practice organ > for yourself it's one thing, but don't expect to make any money > selling it on Ebay to a Hammond collector. A true Hammond > afficianado won't touch one--they want a vintage model B or a C > with a matching vintage Leslie. > > Monty Bennett >     A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service PO Box 111 Burlington, VT 05402 (802)578-3936 Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Model H From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:48:47 -0800   I disagree ... wasn't it the Model H that had the two extra drawknobs .... Septieme and None ... that made it a lot easier to synthesize reed and string sounds? Also, unlike some of the earlier models, the bottom octave of the 16' in the pedal wasn't resultant ... it went all the way down.   I'm less fond of some of the toys that were added, but probably all it needs is oiling ... be sure you use the special Hammond oil ... it's still available ... and possibly check to see if someone has changed the presents (the little switchboard in the back of the console)   A tube Leslie will make a better sound than a solid-state Leslie; it might need a blown speaker or belt replaced, or a tube or two (if it's tube), but all of the above are relatively cheap to do.   It's still a tonewheeler, and, aside from the extra toys, you can still play it like a B-3.   Yeah, they're heavy (grin).   Go on the HamTech list and ask if there are other problems I'm not aware of, but I played one for awhile in a small church and didn't find anything objectionable.   The price is right ... you won't get what you'd get for a B-3 if you want to resell it, but the Leslie alone is probably worth the effort.   Cheers,   Bud   Andy Lawrence wrote:   > Ok, thanks, good advice. But what about the Leslie itself? Worthless? > Andy > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:32:26 EST, RMB10 wrote > Speaking of Hammonds, I just checked out one that a funeral home is = giving > away. This being my first time touching one, I wasn't sure what I was > doing > and had some trouble making it do anything repeatably. I checked out = the > model number, but have already forgotten. H-something, I think. = 25-note > radiating pedal keyboard, 61-note manuals, external Leslie, as well as > internal speakers. White/Black key stop keys on the left in addtion to = the > > drawbars. I was thoroughly confused; I did get it to make noise, but > nothing I did made it sound like what I think of when I think = "Hammond". > It > is also unbelievably heavy, so I'm not sure how attractive it would be = to a > rock band that has to move it around. > > Thoughts from the Hammond experts out there? I have no use for it > whatsoever, but I figured maybe someone might give me money for it, so I = > might grab it. I suppose in theory I could practice on it. > > Andy > > >>Don't waste your money, time, or effort getting a model H Hammond. >>The only ones worth anything are B's and C's, early model A's (the >>ones that look like B's--not A100s), or concert models if they have >>working pdeal solo units--a true rarity. >> >>If you want to spend a few hundred dollars and have a practice organ >>for yourself it's one thing, but don't expect to make any money >>selling it on Ebay to a Hammond collector. A true Hammond >>afficianado won't touch one--they want a vintage model B or a C >>with a matching vintage Leslie. >> >>Monty Bennett >> > > > > A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service > PO Box 111 > Burlington, VT 05402 > (802)578-3936 > Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: All Saints postlude From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:49:03 EST   And, Monty, who is the publisher of this wonderful piece?????  
(back) Subject: Re: Hammond Model H From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 22:54:46 -0500   Bud is right about the extra 2 drawbars on the H model Hammond (a standard furniture version of the X-77). I used to teach on one - with no Leslie = and it was a real screamer. When the store I was teaching in wanted to demo a Leslie they hooked up a 147RV to and it made all the difference in the = world to the sound. And yes it's REALLY HEAVY.   Tom Hoehn, Organist Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes, Ellenton, FL (substitute - 4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/9?- = Rodgers/Ruffati/Wicks) Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/TOUploads/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:48 PM Subject: Re: Hammond Model H     > I disagree ... wasn't it the Model H that had the two extra drawknobs > ... Septieme and None ... that made it a lot easier to synthesize reed > and string sounds? Also, unlike some of the earlier models, the bottom > octave of the 16' in the pedal wasn't resultant ... it went all the way > down. > > I'm less fond of some of the toys that were added, but probably all it > needs is oiling ... be sure you use the special Hammond oil ... it's > still available ... and possibly check to see if someone has changed the > presents (the little switchboard in the back of the console) > > A tube Leslie will make a better sound than a solid-state Leslie; it > might need a blown speaker or belt replaced, or a tube or two (if it's > tube), but all of the above are relatively cheap to do. > > It's still a tonewheeler, and, aside from the extra toys, you can still > play it like a B-3. > > Yeah, they're heavy (grin). > > Go on the HamTech list and ask if there are other problems I'm not aware > of, but I played one for awhile in a small church and didn't find > anything objectionable. > > The price is right ... you won't get what you'd get for a B-3 if you > want to resell it, but the Leslie alone is probably worth the effort. > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Andy Lawrence wrote: > > > Ok, thanks, good advice. But what about the Leslie itself? = Worthless? > > Andy > > > > On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:32:26 EST, RMB10 wrote > > Speaking of Hammonds, I just checked out one that a funeral home is giving > > away. This being my first time touching one, I wasn't sure what I = was > > doing > > and had some trouble making it do anything repeatably. I checked out the > > model number, but have already forgotten. H-something, I think. 25-note > > radiating pedal keyboard, 61-note manuals, external Leslie, as well = as > > internal speakers. White/Black key stop keys on the left in addtion = to the > > > > drawbars. I was thoroughly confused; I did get it to make noise, = but > > nothing I did made it sound like what I think of when I think "Hammond". > > It > > is also unbelievably heavy, so I'm not sure how attractive it would = be to a > > rock band that has to move it around. > > > > Thoughts from the Hammond experts out there? I have no use for it > > whatsoever, but I figured maybe someone might give me money for it, so = I > > might grab it. I suppose in theory I could practice on it. > > > > Andy > > > > > >>Don't waste your money, time, or effort getting a model H Hammond. > >>The only ones worth anything are B's and C's, early model A's (the > >>ones that look like B's--not A100s), or concert models if they have > >>working pdeal solo units--a true rarity. > >> > >>If you want to spend a few hundred dollars and have a practice organ > >>for yourself it's one thing, but don't expect to make any money > >>selling it on Ebay to a Hammond collector. A true Hammond > >>afficianado won't touch one--they want a vintage model B or a C > >>with a matching vintage Leslie. > >> > >>Monty Bennett > >> > > > > > > > > A.B.Lawrence Pipe Organ Service > > PO Box 111 > > Burlington, VT 05402 > > (802)578-3936 > > Visit our website at www.ablorgans.com > > > > ****************************************************************** > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: RE: Hammond clocks with synchronous motors. From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004 08:12:08 -0000   I have a friend who has a novelty clock which has hands revolving anti-clockwise (or counter-clockwise if you like) It tells perfect time however, because the numerals are all reversed mirror fashion with the = three on the left and nine on the right etc.   =20   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = Alan Freed Sent: 02 November 2004 23:53 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Hammond clocks with synchronous motors.   =20   On 11/2/04 5:48 PM, "Voicer40@aol.com" <Voicer40@aol.com> wrote:   I enjoy having guests over to find the second had runing backwards.     Understood! And totally! =20   Alan=20