PipeChat Digest #4880 - Saturday, November 6, 2004
 
Re: voluntaries at RC and Anglican funerals
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
I will hold my nose and do it
  by "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com>
Re: I will hold my nose and do it
  by "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@prairieinet.net>
Re: Veteran's Day
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
RE: musical fallout from the election
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: Veteran's Day
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
We are on right now,
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Veteran's Day
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Veteran's Day
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: learning to play a Hammond
  by "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com>
Re: learning to play a Hammond
  by "bgsx" <bgsx52@sympatico.ca>
Re:  Off-Topic:  Canadian Embassy's website crashes
  by "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com>
Re: Off-Topic:  Canadian Embassy's website crashes
  by "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
Re: Veteran's Day
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: voluntaries at RC and Anglican funerals From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 16:46:17 -0800   I've considered it! (chuckle)   noel jones wrote:   > Bud, > > After all you have been through, you deserve the party first, then the > graveside!      
(back) Subject: I will hold my nose and do it From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:49:23 -0800   =3D-> I am told that everyone know it and they will raise the roof, so I will hold my nose and do it. <-=3D     Well, we all hope you survive the unspeakably traumatic and egregious affront to your keenly refined sensibilities and live to tell us about it.   ~ C    
(back) Subject: Re: I will hold my nose and do it From: "Mark W. McClellan" <omicron@prairieinet.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:07:17 -0600   That's an interesting post. I wasn't sure how to take David Baker's = message, if it is indeed from him. I've not met David, but if it's the same poster that I'm remembering, he lives in Boston, is an attorney an plays a Hook somewhere around there. From his posts, I glean that he is an = intellectual and a superlative human being and that this post is not characteristic of him. Or maybe I'm wrong. MWM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Lester" <crl@137.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 7:49 PM Subject: I will hold my nose and do it     > =3D-> I am told that everyone know it and they will raise the > roof, so I will hold my nose and do it. <-=3D > > > Well, we all hope you survive the unspeakably traumatic and > egregious affront to your keenly refined sensibilities and > live to tell us about it. > > ~ > C > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Veteran's Day From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:17:24 +0800   I don't know about the intoductory lyric,   "While the storm clouds gather far across the sea, Let us swear allegiance to a land that's free, Let us all be grateful for a land so fair, As we raise our voices in a solemn prayer. "=20   But I picked out the following chord structure for the song (which is still= under copyright):   G D God Bless America, D G Land that I love. C G Stand beside her, and guide her G D G Thru the night with a light from above. D G =46rom the mountains, to the prairies, C g To the oceans, white with foam C G G D c G G=20=20=20 God bless America, My home sweet home.   C G G D c G D G=20=20=20 God bless America, My home sweet home.   Words and music by Irving Berlin =A9 Copyright 1938, 1939 by Irving Berlin =A9 Copyright Renewed 1965, 1966 by Irving Berlin   Hint, it starts on the tonic. It should also be in just about every Patriotic songbook ...=20 I got the lyrics from the Boy Scouts of America website; I'm sure its in th= eir songbook if you can track one down.   P.S. Hopefully the Vet's won't hold their noses while you play for them.   ----- Original Message ----- From: David Baker <dgb137@mac.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Veteran's Day Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 12:24:29 -0500   > My parish is recognizing Veterans at the principal service=20 > on Sunday and want to sing God Bless America. I am told that everyone=20 > know it and they will raise the roof, so I will hold my nose and do it.= =20 >=20 > David Baker -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: RE: musical fallout from the election From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 20:22:08 -0600   Mr. M8319,   You must have a lot of time on your hands.   Michael     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of JerryM8319@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:14 PM To: "PipeChat" Subject: Re: musical fallout from the election     I will be happy to assist Mr. Brombaugh in packing as he prepares his move to Germany.        
(back) Subject: Re: Veteran's Day From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:34:50 -0500   But it's a wonderful song! It's definitely in print--for example, in the "Irving Berlin Fake Book," together with lots of other great tunes. You = can order it for $19.95 at http://www.sheetmusic1.com/fakebook.berlin.html   The intro part ("When the storm clouds gather...") is much better than = most introductory sections. We've done the song (on the grand piano, with a baritone soloist leading the congregation) in my church, and it definitely raised the rafters.   It's strange that Berlin actually wrote it for "Yip, Yip, Yank", a = Broadway show during WWI, but deleted it from the show and put it in a trunk for twenty years before resurrecting it in its present form in the late 1930s. He didn't know what a gem he had.   I sincerely wish "God Bless America" could replace "The Star-Spangled Banner" as our national anthem. That almost seems to be happening, as it was consistently sung during the seventh-inning stretch in the World = Series games this year.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         >> My parish is recognizing Veterans at the principal service >> on Sunday and want to sing God Bless America. I am told that everyone >> know it and they will raise the roof, so I will hold my nose and do it. >> >> David Baker > -- > Jan Nijhuis > nijhuis@email.com    
(back) Subject: We are on right now, From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 21:52:45 -0500   Where are our regulars to Pipechat IRC?   We are on right now, and there are only four of us, - so get up and come = on in!   Bob    
(back) Subject: Re: Veteran's Day From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:08:35 EST   are you sure it's still under copyright? doesn't copyright last 37-1/2 years, renewable only once? if so, it should expire within the last 12 = months.   or have the laws changed?   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: Veteran's Day From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:17:30 -0800   the proceeds go to the Boy Scouts; the foundation keeps renewing it   BlueeyedBear@aol.com wrote:   > are you sure it's still under copyright? doesn't copyright last 37-1/2 > years, renewable only once? if so, it should expire within the last 12 > months. > > or have the laws changed? > > scot      
(back) Subject: Re: learning to play a Hammond From: "Cole" <rcolev@woh.rr.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 23:00:32 -0500   Bud wrote: >For playback when I'm working in Sibelius, I've found that the Ocarina is =   >a nice 8' Gedeckt (chuckle).   I do something similar, but with real organ samples. I use NoteWorthy Composer instead of Sibelius. Instead of a MIDI Ocarina (albeit a nice = MIDI sound) I use a delightful little Baroque house organ known as the = Ott-Orgel with the Hauptwerk software. The samples were free as was a little utility =   that enabled me to retune the organ to the historic Kellner temperament. A =   wonderful three-manual Romantic organ is also available for Hauptwerk from =   a fellow list member. It is the only organ sample set I have yet = purchased. I also have several free sample sets from other "Hauptwerkers" as well as = a neat little Zimbelstern.   Hauptwerk, for those who don't know about this software, is a MIDI-implemented software pipe organ emulation by Martin Dyde in the UK. All pipes have three to seven second samples. Some of them are "dry" while =   others have the natural reverb from the church or building. It has become the answer for me to the home organ question.   As far as Hammonds go, I'm happy that _that_ part of my education is over. =   It was invaluable. It would have been much more pleasing if the Hammond = had the mutations (5 1/3, 2 2/3, 1 3/5, 1 1/3) tuned true. That awful keying transient (key click) also ruined any illusions I might have had that I = was playing a "real" organ.   Ross Coulson "Cole" Votaw -- Springfield, Ohio, USA    
(back) Subject: Re: learning to play a Hammond From: "bgsx" <bgsx52@sympatico.ca> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 00:36:32 -0500     > It would have been much more pleasing if the Hammond had > the mutations (5 1/3, 2 2/3, 1 3/5, 1 1/3) tuned true.   Interestly, the Hammond was not quite tuned to equal temperment. It used fixed gear ratios, so the intervals were exactly:   Bb:B 67/46 B:C 54/35 C:C# 85/52 C#:D 71/82 D:D# 67/73 D#:E 35/36 E:F 69/67 F:F# 12/11 F#:G 37/32 G:G# 49/40 G#/A 48/37 A:A# 11/8   See: http://www.bikexprt.com/tunings/tunings2.htm   Every tone is locked to the frequency and phase of the clock motor, so as the clock motor speeds up slightly, each gear driven tone generator speeds up proportionally, which is why I referred to it as as 1-"pipe" unit organ. Compton in the UK connected 2 of his tone generator units in parallel using a rubber belt drive, to see what it would be like, and the improvement was so great, he made all of his more expensive models that way. If each pitch on each key had it's own independent generator so the pitches were not locked in phase and frequency, with it's own amplitude waveform to prevent key clicks, and the mutations were true thirds and fifths and not taken from the quasi-equal-temperment pitches, the Hammond would have a somewhat different sound. It still wouldn't be a real pipe organ though.   A test in 1937 as part of a legal proceeding to determine if Hammond could call their "musical instrument" an "organ" found that 15 university students and 10 musicians could not tell the difference between a Hammond and a Skinner pipe organ.   http://users.belgacombusiness.net/hammond/story.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Canadian Embassy's website crashes From: "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 22:31:58 -0800 (PST)   Bud Clark wrote:   Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:48:01 -0800   Evidently it was overwhelmed by people seeking information about immigration/political refugee status.   Bud     Trust me, there are MANY people left in America who still possess intelligence and strong moral conviction (though it must seem unlikely to the rest of the world) who are truly horrified by what is going on here these days. Many will soon be emigrating if they can find a place that will take them and have the necessary financial resources.   Most places require that you have the skills to earn your living in an area where they need workers. Considering what organists make, that might be difficult, especially since church organists work almost for free in much of the world. John Brombaugh has first class organbuilding skills that will make him employable anywhere. God bless him on his way. We really don't much deserve his fine instruments these days.   I think the body snatchers have been leaving their pods in the beds of of our citizens lately, because these aren't the kind of Americans that I grew up with. I do know that many people are frightened now. Not of foreign fanatics, but of our own fanatics. Many people out in the heartland seem still incredibly terrified by 9/11, but NOT the people who SAW the towers burning, and SMELLED the stench of burning flesh. Please note how the states that experienced it first hand voted - that is to say the folks in New Jersey and New York. On March 4, 1933 Franklin Delano Roosevelt told America: "We have nothing to fear but fear itself". That noble attitude stands in vivid contrast to our current president who tries to keep us as afraid as he can. In America it now feels like 1933 all over again, but without a wise leader to guide and defend us.   Ken             =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Kenneth Potter, Substitute Organist 845/358-2528 <swell_shades@yahoo.com>, 845/480-1416 cell =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D  
(back) Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Canadian Embassy's website crashes From: "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:38:47 -0800   Canada, like the United States, is a country founded by immigration. We welcome those with skills that will help us grow. Our organ building businesses have suffered much since September 11th, similar to those businesses to the south. We are not just a country of socialized medicine and cheap drug prices, but with the British heritage, a country with a = quiet but firm resolve for the betterment of our citizens and residents. Our political system is different, you have 2 major parties, we have 3 or 4, sometimes more, so you can have a party closer to your beliefs We have a larger land mass, but just 10% of your population, and most of those live within 100 miles of the US/Canada border. You have a very large army, ours =   is very small, and mainly involved with peace-keeping throughout the = world. A while ago, I was visiting with a friend of mine, and we went to his daughter's Air Cadet Annual inspection. Two groups of similar cadets were visiting from Washington State. The Inspecting Officer came from Seattle. The cadet band played the national anthems of both countrys The parents = and friends sang both, with about the same volume for both anthems. I just wonder if that would have happened, had the inspection been in the United States.   Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Canadian Embassy's website crashes     > Bud Clark wrote: > > Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2004 12:48:01 -0800 > > Evidently it was overwhelmed by people seeking information about > immigration/political refugee status.    
(back) Subject: Re: Veteran's Day From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2004 09:33:37 -0000   Try this link   http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/God-Bless-America   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman researching WW1 songs]   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:34 AM Subject: Re: Veteran's Day     > But it's a wonderful song! It's definitely in print--for example, in = the > "Irving Berlin Fake Book," together with lots of other great tunes. You =   > can > order it for $19.95 at http://www.sheetmusic1.com/fakebook.berlin.html > > The intro part ("When the storm clouds gather...") is much better than > most > introductory sections. We've done the song (on the grand piano, with a > baritone soloist leading the congregation) in my church, and it = definitely > raised the rafters. > > It's strange that Berlin actually wrote it for "Yip, Yip, Yank", a > Broadway > show during WWI, but deleted it from the show and put it in a trunk for > twenty years before resurrecting it in its present form in the late = 1930s. > He didn't know what a gem he had. >