PipeChat Digest #4900 - Saturday, November 13, 2004
 
RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net>
RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs
  by "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:07:41 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I reckon you could get 50 to 100 harmoniums in a container, if carefully stacked.   Now let me see, $600 X 100 less $12,000 freight....anyone up for it?   I reckon I could claim "waste disposal" and get an EU grant towards the cost of freight and handling!   If we can find a "finder," I could be a "sender" and Ross could be the "seller." Glenda could draw up the contracts, Sebastian could do the repairs and Bud could provide learned information sheets as "flyers."   Shalom,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote:   > > >Hey, Ross...? How much would it cost to ship an > Estey to New > Zealand? (are there quantity discounts for such > things?) And, do you have > a loading dock? We might need to talk bidness > here.......!!       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 23:10:28 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   Do we take it that you don't like that organ?   :)   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TheShieling <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> wrote:     > > Damn it all, it's bad enough with the 2m Allen in > the local church here: > even if the specification were in pipes and not > electronics, it would still > be bad: a cursed Flute Celeste on the Great but no > Dulciana. Not a single > Principal rank of any pitch below the Mixture in > the13-stop Swell. No 4ft > Flute on the Pedal. No Larigot anywhere. The Swell > string tied permanently > to the Celeste. And all kinds of useless tabs like > "Romantic tuning off" and > a heap of speakers in the console that have to be > deliberately turned off, a > useless General Swell Pedal, pistons by the blasted > dozen, non-standard > console measurements, pedal springs that had to be > adjusted much heavier > than the 3oz pressure when the thing was installed, > no pins to hold the > music on the rack, a music light that is useless as > it is under the music.       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: Re: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:20:44 -0600   Trust me Ross. Colin is correct. The "average" organist that plays a = state of the art digital organ driven by Musicom computer technology certainly = can tell the difference! No it's not pipes, but the listener is hard put to = tell the difference. FYI there is a huge difference between Digital and Analog =   technology. Advertising has little to do with it. Gee, what else has changed since the 1960's ....   Cheers,   Tim   ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 12:04 AM Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs     > I'm not denying anything you say here, Colin, but have merely been = saying > that electronic organs are just that, electronic, and that it is a good > omnibus term that does not need further words like "digital" or = "digital > computer" to mishmash the language any further. As I've said, anything > that > needs electronic means to create the sound, amplify it, play it, and > distribute it to my ears is in fact electronic. The rest is mere > advertising > piffle, whatever the quality of the sound produced. The average organist =   > who > plays electronic instruments couldn't care less whether square waves, = tone > wheels, digital sampling or Musicom are used, but merely knows that it's =   > an > electronic instrument. When that is known, judgments can be made about = the > quality of the instrument as a matter of opinion, but it is a statement = of > fact to call something electronic, not a question of taste or judgment = so, > in that sense, the term "electronic" is (or should be) completely devoid =   > of > any overtones (no pun intended). > > Ross > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:27:35 +1300     >If we can find a "finder," I could be a "sender" and Ross could be the "seller." Glenda could draw up the contracts, Sebastian could do the repairs and Bud could provide learned information sheets as "flyers."   You'll all have to send me enough storage space to put the things when = they arrive: I want 12,000 cu.ft storage capacity posted to me immediately, in advance of the container load arriving. Tee hee, what an idea......................   Ross    
(back) Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 20:29:15 +1300   >Do we take it that you don't like that organ?   What organ is that? I thought I'd just made it clear we don't have an = organ in the local church. :-) ;-) :-(     Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "Octaaf" <octaaf@charter.net> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 01:29:41 -0600   An Allen? Gives me the shivers. You have my deepest sympathies Ross.   T   ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2004 1:29 AM Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs     > >Do we take it that you don't like that organ? > > What organ is that? I thought I'd just made it clear we don't have an > organ > in the local church. :-) ;-) :-( > > > Ross > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: RE: reed organs/pipe organs/digital organs From: "TheShieling" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:24:34 +1300   >Trust me Ross. Colin is correct. The "average" organist that plays a state of the art digital organ driven by Musicom computer technology certainly = can   tell the difference! No it's not pipes, but the listener is hard put to = tell   the difference. FYI there is a huge difference between Digital and Analog =   technology. Advertising has little to do with it. Gee, what else has changed since the 1960's ....   Tim, I wasn't disputing the difference in tone, but stating that I believe the word "electronic" is correct, adequate if you prefer that term, for both instruments.   Ross