PipeChat Digest #4920 - Tuesday, November 23, 2004
 
[LONG] David Briggs and some Presbyterians in Birmingham, Part 1 of 2
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Langlais en Am=E9rique
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Tactile memory
  by "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net>
Re: Regina pacis
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re:      Re: BBC News: Church air is "threat to health"
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Elgar
  by "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu>
Re: Music for Christ the King
  by <SWF12262@aol.com>
Re: Can a pipe organ be removed from a building that has been designated 
  by "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net>
Re: learning repertory (was: memorization)
  by "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com>
Re: Elgar
  by "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Paul Manz story
  by "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com>
Re: Paul Manz story
  by "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net>
 

(back) Subject: [LONG] David Briggs and some Presbyterians in Birmingham, Part 1 of 2 From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 20:36:48 -0600   David Briggs and some Presbyterians in Birmingham Part 1 of 2     I know that a few of you, the ones who read these posts, must wonder about my life or lack thereof, and how it is I plan such inane adventures. All I can say is that it takes a rare talent to find innocuous trouble in the South. Clean living abounds, yea, real trouble, no problem, but cultural activities must be carefully sought and cultivated.   Anyway, I have still been thrashing away at work, doing my job, laying low, trying to stay out of real trouble while searching for the meaning and mission of my life. There have been offers of employment, both in the private and government attorney milieu and the church musician area. However, I have not yet been tempted by anything but a possible carrot dangled out there by an attorney who succeeded me at an agency. She called with the most outrageous compliments to ask if I was interested in a possible position. Well, flattery can get one anywhere, so I will see where it takes me.   In the meantime I knew I desperately needed some organic help if I was to progress and do this recital. A name kept popping up with some regularity as a potential coach/teacher: our regional AGO councilor Jeff McLelland, who I had met before. So I took the plunge, looked him up, and sent an e-mail, charging him not to laugh too hard at my request.   A friend who is an organ enthusiast from Miami way expressed interest in seeing the organ at FUMC Pensacola. So I called Rick Branch, organist/choirmaster, and he graciously allowed console time on Friday. We drove over, to see that the hurricane cleanup crews had dispensed with much of the roadside debris, that there was a temporary roof over Christ Church, and that scaffolding was in place and work being done at First Baptist Church.   FUMC was pretty much unscathed by the storm, and I was given the whole day, with instructions for turning on the 4-manual instrument. The more recent stoplist is not given on their website, but some description and pictures are available at http://www.pensacolafirstchurch.com/organ_assembly.htm (the Pensacola AGO website lists the former stoplist). My traveling companion was preoccupied with his work, constantly having to field phone calls during the day. I felt for him =96 been there, done that. However, I knew he was still young enough to enjoy the frenetic pace and limelight with its aura of invincibility and indispensability. I knew he would eventually burn out or have that angina wake-up call. I was so happy that my cell phone, although for once on because I was expecting a call, was not ringing off the hook. And the Nextel phone service is so bad that I received two voice messages from two days previous.   Before I knew it, we arrived at the church and were ushered into the church proper. I found the light switch, but burst out laughing. In the center of the wall behind the organ and choir is a large stained glass window depicting Jesus the Good Shepherd, with a light behind it to illuminate it. The switches above the choir light ones were labeled =93Jesus On=94 and =93Jesus Off=94 - no lie. =20   I have said before that this is not my favorite organ, but it played so well. The sound was crashing all around me because the console is so close to the pipes. I decided not to play with the sequencer to find out if I liked it better in other areas of the room. Because of the reverberation I was forced to play slower, and the medium touch was very nice for control purposes. I was instantly comfortable with the console, and think I played perhaps every stop in something, going through the proposed recital program and pulling out extra music to play. I don=92t effuse over gambas, celestes and tremolos, but the = gamba and clarinet were quite lovely. Before I knew it we had spent three hours there of solid playing.   I drove us by the Barnes & Noble for a couple of books and a cappuccino, and then home. Once back in DFS I had my first salsa dance lesson. Although the steps are simple, the hip movement while doing the dance is disconcerting. Although I was assured I have made it to honorary Cuban status, I know I have a long way to go. So now I have dance homework as well as organ homework. Do I have to re-learn Spanish too? Que lastima =96 que se mejore pronto (forgive the lack of proper accentuation).   Sunday morning I arose early, feeding all the animals and throwing a few things into an overnight case. I drove to Birmingham to hear David Briggs in recital and for my lesson with Jeff McLelland. Although I dressed casually for the 3 =BD hour drive, I decided to swing around to the church. I arrived just as the postlude was finishing =96 = Buxtehude=92s =93Ein feste Burg=94. The day=92s services consisted of hymn festivals, = and everyone was effusive with praise for the service. =20   On these trips I generally drag someone along with me, or meet someone I know upon my arrival. This time I was all alone, and trying to be on my better, if not best, behavior. I decided to just rush in where angels fear to tread. I met Jeff coming down the stairs from the front gallery, overlooking the pulpit and lectern (surrounded in dark wood), where the choir and organ are housed. I re-introduced myself (we had met several years ago at an AGO function). He introduced me to some friends from Mississippi, and invited me to join them and the recitalist for lunch. I did not want to crash the party in my brogans, but away I was whisked to pick up David Briggs. =20   Lunch was an utterly charming affair with four other witty and fun-loving people. We laughed and bantered while putting away Thai food (at David=92s request). It turned out that Jeff=92s friends were = originally from Pensacola, and the woman=92s parents were fellow AGO chapter = members that I knew, so it is a small world. The man was a former minister at the Presbyterian church in Laurel, Mississippi, where Jeff spent time as organist. They were delightful. Briggs, a native of Birmingham, England (pronounced quite differently from its sister city in Alabama), is married and currently living a few blocks from Riverside Church, having given up his Gloucester Cathedral job, with the organ and 8-second reverberation time, in 2002. He is to spend six months next year at the University of the South at Swanee, then six months back in England.   After lunch, I decided to fill up the car with petrol and have it washed. My adventure of the day concerned driving the wrong way through the car wash and having to U-turn and give it another go. Thankfully I didn=92t get lost in town or locked in my hotel room, and the cruise control worked fine on the way up, preventing interesting interventions by local highway police.   More later.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Langlais en Am=E9rique From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:43:56 -0500   Speaking of Langlais' immense and varied oeuvre, I note with interest that site devoted to him (at http://perso.wanadoo.fr/langlais/o-p-o.htm) lists the following work:   1976 =AD Mosa=EFque 1=A0: St=E8le pour Gabriel Faur=E9 =AD Sur la tombe de Buffalo Bill =AD Double Fantaisie pour 2 organistes =AD Boystown, lieu de paix (Combre)   At the Tomb of Buffalo Bill! What is it--variations on "O Bury Me Not on the Lone Prairie"? Does anyone have this music who would care to comment?     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Tactile memory From: "Paul Valtos" <chercapa@enter.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:04:52 -0500   Tactile memoryDear Alan,' Well with me it is peripheral neuropathy where I am beginning to = loose the sensitivity in my extremities. I find that I have to check my = left hand to make sure it is where it belongs or where I subconsciously = think it is. In the old days, when I was a bit younger, I knew where my = left hand was subconsciously and could keep my eyes on the music. That = is no longer the case. I hate it but as with my eyesight, must accept = the inevitable.=20 Paul ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alan Freed=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 1:46 PM Subject: Tactile memory     On 11/22/04 12:12 PM, "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> wrote:   > The Internet has spawned its own spelling and lexicon ...=20   Yes. With advancing age I find that there are more and more words = that I cannot "spell" orally (though I've always won the spelling bees = in school), but that my fingers can spell just fine; by happenstance, as = I was reading Monty's first post on the subject, a friend was sitting = here composing a letter to be faxed, and asked how to spell "liaison." = I had to admit that I didn't know how, but that if I typed it (even on a = manual typewriter) I could LOOK at it and find out (whether by = spellcheck by or what I call "tactile memory"). Words like "a cappella" = and "Khrushchev" are other examples; I don't know how to spell them, but = my fingers do. Grey matter fades faster than finger muscles, I guess. =20   Alan=20     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.786 / Virus Database: 532 - Release Date: 10/29/2004
(back) Subject: Re: Regina pacis From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 19:20:23 -0800   OH! That's the 1662 Book of Common Prayer version of the Suffrages after the Creed at Evensong, which means they'd be found after the Magnificat at Latin Vespers, I think.   Verse - Da pacem, Domine, in diebus nostris Response -Quia non est alius qui pugnet pro nobis nisi tu Deus noster.   Verse - Give peace, O Lord, in our time Response - Because there is no one else who will fight for us if not You, our God.   The Prayer Book has a different translation.   However, both the Latin and the English are sung to a recitation formula, as is "Pax Domini sit semper vobiscum" in the Mass ... not really a Gregorian "melody".   Cheers,   Bud          
(back) Subject: Re: Re: BBC News: Church air is "threat to health" From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 11:55:36 +0800   Vertically standing pipes can be a health hazard. One Monday morning I was =   sitting playing something on our church organ which has a detached console =   and the works and choir together with the pipes and case immediately = behind the choir. There was a mighty crash as the 8 foot open diapason pipe fell across the choir stalls. Had this happened 24 hours earlier during the service we = would have had the alto line of the choir in deep trouble. It seems that when this pipe was put into place the catch on the back of = it had not properly caught on the hook on the case. There being no pipe = shades the pipe was free to fall. I made sure this could not happen again by putting heavy gut fishing line right round those pipes so that they could not fall even if the hook = failed. BTW the pipe was not damaged apart from a small dent. It was a solidly = built 5" diapason of rolled zinc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederick LT Watkin" <fltw@SYMPATICO.CA> To: <PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:58 AM Subject: Re: BBC News: Church air is "threat to health"     > There's always something out there. Next some moron will probably > conclude > that a pipe organ is a safety hazard due to vertically standing pipes. > > Churches have burned candles and incense for hundreds of years. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pipe Organs and Related Topics > [mailto:PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu]On Behalf Of Roger Evans > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 5:18 PM > To: PIPORG-L@listserv.albany.edu > Subject: BBC News: Church air is "threat to health" > > > What next? > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4026537.stm > > > > > > Roger Evans > 419 Park Street > Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 > U.S.A. > > (434) 295-2246 > http://home.earthlink.net/~liturgicalmusic/ > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- > tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- > versity at Albany. For a brief summary of list commands, send mail to > listserv@listserv.albany.edu saying GET LSVCMMDS.TXT or see the web > page at http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/lsvcmmds.html . > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > Note: opinions expressed on PIPORG-L are those of the individual con- > tributors and not necessarily those of the list owners nor of the Uni- > versity at Albany. For a brief summary of list commands, send mail to > listserv@listserv.albany.edu saying GET LSVCMMDS.TXT or see the web > page at http://www.albany.edu/piporg-l/lsvcmmds.html . > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: =      
(back) Subject: Elgar From: "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:20:37 -0500   Hi everyone!   I'm working on a group project, and I wondered if anyone had any insights on Elgar as an organist -- where he would have worked, what pieces he would have written, style, innovations, etc, etc.   Thanks bunches, and Happy Turkey Day to y'all! Shelley  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for Christ the King From: <SWF12262@aol.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:21:21 EST   St. Lambert RC Church Skokie, IL Prelude: Improvisation on Lauda Anima Processional: Praise My Soul, The King of Heaven (Lauda Anima; descant = by SW Folkers) Offertory Anthem: Te Deum in C (Charles Villiers Stanford) Communion: Alleluia! Sing to Jesus (Hyfrydol) Communion Anthem: At the Name of Jesus (King's Weston; descant by = Patrick Wedd) Recessional: Rejoice, The Lord Is King (Darwall's 148th; descant by SWF) Postlude: Hymn Improvisation on Darwall's 148th (Malcolm Archer, from "After the Last Verse") Lots of smells and bells for this one! Steve Steven Weyand Folkers Director of Music St. Lambert Church Skokie, IL  
(back) Subject: Re: Can a pipe organ be removed from a building that has been designated as an Historical Building? From: "Paul Smith" <kipsmith@getgoin.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 22:35:33 -0600   I was given an Estey tubular-pneumatic organ to evacuate on one day's = notice from a former church building which was being gutted and turned into = office space. The building has a "historic" designation and stands in an = "historic district", but in this case they are obligated to return the outside of = the building to its historic appearance, and the inside has been completely changed. The organ was hours from being thrown in the dumpster, and handfulls of pipes had been removed to be sold for $1 at a flea market = (but were later restored and are now playing!). = Kip in Missouri ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Richer" <jerry@ChirpingBat.Com> To: "Pipe Chat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Can a pipe organ be removed from a building that has been designated as an Historical Building?     > Hello! There is a building in my area which has been designated as = an > "historical Building" or whatever the official term is. And I suppose > that > there are even different degrees of this designation. There is an out = of > repair pipe organ in the building. Of course the current owners don't > know > anything about pipe organs. They would like the organ removed so that > they > can renovate the building. They realize that the building has to be > restored to it's original condition but does this include the pipe = organ? > > Can a pipe organ be removed from a building that has been designated =   > as > an Historical Building? > > Thanks. > > > > Jerry > > > > Chirp|Chirp|Chirp: It's the Bat, Bat Arhonious Software > ! Edirol R-1: high quality portable stereo Compact Flash audio recorder > with > USB, $400.00, www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml > ! Native Instruments Elektrik Piano: $199.00 > ! Try Edirol for professional audio capture, audio playback and low > latency > MIDI applications: http://www.chirpingbat.com/edirol.shtml > ! BA Software is a full fledged Tascam / Teac dealer: > http://www.ChirpingBat.Com/tascam.shtml > ! Delta 66: $190 includes delivery in the USA, $220 outside, > www.ChirpingBat.Com/delta.shtml > ! Sound Forge 7.0 with Noise Reduction 2.0 and CD Architect 5.0: $299, > includes delivery in the USA, www.ChirpingBat.Com/soundforge.shtml > ! Giga Studio 96: $300 includes delivery in the USA, $330 outside, > www.ChirpingBat.Com/gigastudio.shtml > ! Sonar: 4.0: Studio $299, Producer $599, includes delivery in the USA, > add > $30 outside, www.ChirpingBat.Com/sonar.shtml > ! We take PayPal, Visa, Mastercard, checks, wire transfers, etc. > We ship Internationally. Click to convert our prices into your currency =   > at: > www.xe.com/ucc/full.shtml > > Reach BA Software in the United States at: > Phone: 1-518-572-6092 weekdays, 1-518-359-8538 other, Email: > Bat@ChirpingBat.Com, WWW: www.ChirpingBat.Com > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: learning repertory (was: memorization) From: "littlebayus@yahoo.com" <littlebayus@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:00:13 -0800 (PST)     --- Robert Lind <lindr@core.com> wrote:   > I continue STRONGLY to disagree with this foolish > notion. One finds time to > do that which one truly wants to do, and one should > never stop learning new > literature. > > Robert Lind > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Liquescent <quilisma@cox.net> > To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 8:59 AM > Subject: memorization > > > > First of all, as has already been pointed out, > working church organists > > do just that: WORK (grin). I have OFTEN told > younger people, "Learn your > > repertoire in undergraduate school; you won't have > TIME after that." >   Greetings! I have read in previous posts (I have forgotten on what list) that Alec Wyton encouraged his students to learn as much repertoire they could while in undergraduate/graduate school.... for they would find that they didn't have that much time after they began to work...   Yes, I'm sure most people would *like* to increase their repertoire, slowly but surely... but on the other hand some people live in troubled times (i. e., family illness either at home or in another city... problems with their children, having to hold down a number of jobs to make ends meet, etc.) and just cannot find that much free time or when they do have free time, they are so exhausted that they have to rest...   Just some food for thought...   God bless...   Best wishes,     Morton Belcher fellow list member... =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Elgar From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 21:06:24 -0800   Despite a veritable list of compositions for just about every combination o= f instruments you might imagine, Elgar only wrote two intended for unaccompanied organ =8B eleven vesper voluntaries and a sonata. At age 14, he was appointed to be the assistant organist at some Jesuit church where his father was the organist, and most of his musical training was self-inflicted.=20         On 11/22/04 8:20 PM, Shelley Culver said something about:   > Hi everyone! >=20 > I'm working on a group project, and I wondered if anyone had any > insights on Elgar as an organist -- where he would have worked, what > pieces he would have written, style, innovations, etc, etc. >=20 > Thanks bunches, and Happy Turkey Day to y'all! > Shelley >=20 > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>      
(back) Subject: Paul Manz story From: "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:17:29 -0600   This inquiry came on another list I frequent and it occurred to me that = one of you would know the answer if an answer exists. Feel free to email or = fax him directly.   ++++++++++++++++++++   From: Noel Piercy <piercno@yahoo.com>   Isn't there some poignant story surrounding the genesis of Paul Manz's = motet "E'en so, Lord Jesus, quickly come"? We're singing that piece this Sunday and I hoped to be able to tell the story to the choir, but now I can't = find it. Would greatly appreciate any leads.   Many thanks, Noel Piercy, 1st Pres, Caldwell, NJ fax 973-228-0310   ++++++++++++++++++++   Thanks,   Richard Huggins    
(back) Subject: Re: Paul Manz story From: "Travis L. Evans" <tlevans95@charter.net> Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 23:32:29 -0600   Taken from the inside cover of the piece. For the 50th anniversary of its original publishing. It's sold over one million copies since 1954.     "The writing of E'no so, Lord Jesus, quickly Come, came at a time of great stress in teh Manz household John Manz, the three-year-old son of Paul = and ruth Manz, developed a rare type of double pneumonia. The illness = produced a very high fever, which requied hospitilization and painful treatmens to lower his temperatrue. It became imporatant for Paul and Ruth to give twenty-four hour attention as John's condition became critical. Durint = this time Paul composed a motif and Ruth wrote a text based on teh last chapter of Revelation as a way of expressing their hope and greif. John recovered and later became a Pastor in the Lutheran church. The original edition of this piece read "For those who prayed for John" but the deciation was = later shortened to read "to John."   Travis   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Huggins" <huggins88@yahoo.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:17 PM Subject: Paul Manz story     > This inquiry came on another list I frequent and it occurred to me that one > of you would know the answer if an answer exists. Feel free to email or fax > him directly. > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > From: Noel Piercy <piercno@yahoo.com> > > Isn't there some poignant story surrounding the genesis of Paul Manz's motet > "E'en so, Lord Jesus, quickly come"? We're singing that piece this = Sunday > and I hoped to be able to tell the story to the choir, but now I can't find > it. Would greatly appreciate any leads. > > Many thanks, > Noel Piercy, 1st Pres, Caldwell, NJ > fax 973-228-0310 > > ++++++++++++++++++++ > > Thanks, > > Richard Huggins > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >