PipeChat Digest #4799 - Saturday, October 2, 2004
 
OFF-TOPIC (for some): cuts in social services, up close and personal
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
flat celeste
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: flat celeste
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: flat celeste
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
 

(back) Subject: OFF-TOPIC (for some): cuts in social services, up close and personal From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:26:37 EDT   Wonder if those rich folks who got the GOP tax cuts have such problems?   Oh well, wait 'til November when I can cast my ballots.   We get what we pay, er, vote for!!! Just ask those churches who chose the cheapest bidder to rebuild their pipe organs.... (keeping it in the pipe = organ vein)   Stan Krider   In a message dated 10/02/2004 5:02:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes:   The Ryan White Fund formerly paid 80% of rent for people with AIDS ... in my partner's case, that would have been $560/mo US, based on his half of the rent with two of us living here.   Because of the freezing of federal Ryan White appropriations at the 2004 level, he will receive $150/mo US instead. We just got the notice.  
(back) Subject: flat celeste From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:27:41 EDT   list,   i know that the unda maris is traditionally tuned flat, but is it the only =   celeste to be tuned so? the choir erzahler celeste on my instrument is = flat (i'm new to the job), and i'm wondering if anyone else has experienced = this.   i'd like it to be tuned sharp so that i can use it in combination with the =   swell string celeste.   scot  
(back) Subject: Re: flat celeste From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:20:08 -0500   Traditionally some ranks were tuned sharp -- Voix Celeste, Flute = Celeste, etc. -- and some flat -- Vox Angelica, Unda Maris, etc. There = were always exceptions, and even in the nineteenth century Henry Willis, = for example, generally tuned his Vox Angelica ranks sharp. These days = most people prefer to tune everything sharp. The bottom line is that = whether any particular rank is sharp or flat is largely a matter of = taste. If you want to have the Erzahler Celeste tuned sharp, the length = to which the pipes have been cut may not permit this. However, it is = usually possible to get round this problem by making the Erzahler = Celeste into the Erzahler and vice versa, and then tuning the former = Erzahler Celeste to pitch and the former Erzahler sharp. Even if a few = the pipes needed a bit trimmed off them you would very much reduce the = amount that had to be trimmed by swapping the ranks.   John Speller ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BlueeyedBear@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2004 12:27 PM Subject: flat celeste     list,   i know that the unda maris is traditionally tuned flat, but is it the = only celeste to be tuned so? the choir erzahler celeste on my = instrument is flat (i'm new to the job), and i'm wondering if anyone = else has experienced this.   i'd like it to be tuned sharp so that i can use it in combination with = the swell string celeste.   scot
(back) Subject: Re: flat celeste From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 11:31:22 -0700   They're usually tuned that way.   If they're both tuned RIGHT, combining them makes a lovely, warm sound.   Look at the String Organs on the big pipe organs and/or electronic substitutes ... they invariably include both sharp and flat celestes.   Cheers,   Bud   BlueeyedBear@aol.com wrote:   > list, > > i know that the unda maris is traditionally tuned flat, but is it the > only celeste to be tuned so? the choir erzahler celeste on my > instrument is flat (i'm new to the job), and i'm wondering if anyone > else has experienced this. > > i'd like it to be tuned sharp so that i can use it in combination with > the swell string celeste. > > scot