PipeChat Digest #4802 - Monday, October 4, 2004
 
Service music my style today
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: how about reedless reeds?
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: St. Mary-the-Smoky
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Haskell Reedless Oboe
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Service music my style today
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Need some info from Chicago OHS convention book
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: Service music my style today
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
Re: Service music my style today
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Estey Labial Saxophone
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Stainer's Seven-Fold Amen
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Saxophone
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Stainer's Seven-Fold Amen
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Fountain of Much Knowledge & Wisdom
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Service music my style today
  by "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Service music my style today From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:19:19 -0700 (PDT)       Communion Service   Carrillon Chiming of hour   Prelude-Larghetto Cantabile Van Denman Thom(p)son   Processional Hymn- Holy Holy Holy (Nicea), Intro by me, Interlude from = Becky Owens book   Offertory-Adoration -FB Price   Choral Response - SevenFold Amen John Stainer (acapella)   Anthem-Invitation to Communion Deborah Govenor   Communion service(Recited in German) Improvisations as filler music   Closing Hymn- We Are a New Creation (Lancashire) Intro by me   Choral Benedition -The Blessing of Aaron ES Lorenz   Postlude Tuba March in D TDHines             From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!
(back) Subject: Re: how about reedless reeds? From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:40:50 EDT     "reedless chalumeau"???   That's a new one on me. Can you tell us who built it, and what year? It is almost certainly unique in stop nomenclature. "Chalumeau" is one of the most mis-used stop names of the past half century, with very little concensus on what it's supposed to be. It = continues to be used as a catch-all for indeterminate or unsuccessful reeds of anything = from an Oboe to an old Clarinet that's been chopped in half (Aeolian-Skinner = did that...) I can only guess that such a stop was the fabrication of Paul Bunjes. Certainly, such nomenclature is out of the question for the likes of Will = Haskell. Enquiring minds want to know...   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City http://www.glucknewyork.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: St. Mary-the-Smoky From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 21:43:56 -0500   At 3:33 PM -0500 10/3/04, jch wrote: >At 03:29 PM 10/3/2004, you wrote: >>The quite considerable volume of the AIO hymn singing >>sound was completely wiped out, and many of us felt like waving a white = flag >>of surrender. > >I would be interested to hear any comments from someone who attended >both AIO and >OHS this year, to hear how this event compared to the Hymn Wipe-out >in Buffalo.   The Hymn Wipe-Out in Buffalo won hands down! Actually, there were many less people at St. Mary's singing the hymn and although the organist played like the church was full I didn't feel it was objectionable. The St. Mary organ has quite a roar - a NICE roar!   David  
(back) Subject: Re: Haskell Reedless Oboe From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:45:01 EDT   Haskell's Labial Oboes, of Spillflote construction, yet scaled as = orchestral strings, were very successfull down to 4' C, and in a generous acoustic, = all the way to the bass. As mentioned by Mr. Speller, their reedlessness made = for stable tuning in remote locations. Look at the patent drawings for a = glimpse of the cupped languids, if you can't find an organbuilder to show you a real sample under his care.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City   ..  
(back) Subject: Re: Service music my style today From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:15:20 -0500     Florence Price's "Adoration" is a lovely, nostalgic, work, isn't it?   Bob Lind ----- Original Message -----=20 From: T.Desiree' Hines=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 9:19 PM Subject: Service music my style today     Offertory-Adoration -FB Price    
(back) Subject: Re: Need some info from Chicago OHS convention book From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:33:12 -0500   Glenda,   Would it be Twenty-four Pieces for Organ by Langlais, "Priere pour les morts?" Played by Mary Anne Crugher GBalduf, on June, 26, 2004 on the = c1885 Witzmann (att) organ. Hope this helps.   Sand     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2004 7:05 PM Subject: Need some info from Chicago OHS convention book    
(back) Subject: Re: Service music my style today From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 20:37:47 -0700 (PDT)   Huuuuny! Florence Prices 8 Short Pieces are ALL beautiful...and Adoration is = definately a nostalgic work...pop all the swell and choir 8' celestes on, = (best with Flute Celestes, Erzahlers, and that liking)sub and super those = babies, for that Sub-dominant section, and just let yourself melt into a = dream! Its very lush and rich, and probably sounded very nice on the = organs she had access to here in Chicago on the southside. Several of = those churches folded, but Sixth Grace Presbyterian Is still open. In its = hay-day, it was the Chicago equal to First Congregational or Ebenezer in = Atlanta or Friendship in Charlotte (ahem...Monty)being the place for = affluent Black families to worship... with very braod musical taste, yet = very appreciative,and requiring, of a good organ and its music. They now = have a Hammond concert model, and their music has changed.   I think when i get to Grad school, Florence Price's music is worth = concentrating in for my solo recital. Undine Smith Moore's Variations on Nettleton is very nice too.     From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: Service music my style today From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 23:39:07 -0400   At 10:19 PM 10/3/2004, Desiree' wrote: >Offertory-Adoration -FB Price > >Choral Response - SevenFold Amen John Stainer (acapella)   We used to sing the Stainer Seven Fold Amen regularly, but always at the closing of the Service, - I have never heard of it being sung in the = middle of the Service.   Was there a special reason for singing where you did?   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Estey Labial Saxophone From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 22:40:40 -0500   IIRC, when Estey put a labial "saxophone" in a church organ, the usual nomenclature was "Cor Glorieaux," which seemed less secular and therefore more suitable for a church!   Dennis Steckley Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines    
(back) Subject: Stainer's Seven-Fold Amen From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 20:57:41 -0700   For those who think the Great Amen at the end of the Canon in the RC Mass is a recent innovation, Stainer's Seven-Fold was originally written to be sung at the end of the Anglican Prayer of Consecration (Canon) in the Communion Service, more than a hundred years ago.   The other customary Anglican places, of course, were after the Third Collect at the end of Evensong, and occasionally after the Blessing at Holy Communion, or the final prayer at Sunday Mattins.   Canon Winfred Douglas' St. Dunstan Kyriale provides for singing an Amen after the Blessing to the tune of the Ite Missa Est, evidently for those places who didn't dare add the Ite to the strict Prayer Book rite (grin).   The old Anglican service-books have LARGE selections of Amens for every occasion (grin). Most are best forgotten (chuckle), like most of the Victorian Communion Services.   But there ARE some gems of both.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Saxophone From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 21:04:43 -0700   There was a Saxophone in the old organ of no less a stiff-upper-lip anglo-catholic venue than St. Paul's K Street in Washington DC (Lewis & Hitchcock? I forget now ... I played it years ago) ... but I'm fairly sure it was a normal lingual stop. Sounded kinda nice.   The Chalumeau in St. Paul's Cathedral organ (Heinz 57, no matter WHAT the website says), San Diego, is just a big ol' fat romantic Clarinet (grin).   Cheers,   Bud   First Christian Church of Casey, IL wrote:   > IIRC, when Estey put a labial "saxophone" in a church organ, the usual > nomenclature was "Cor Glorieaux," which seemed less secular and = therefore > more suitable for a church! > > Dennis Steckley > Lover of Cats, Pipe Organs & 1940-65 Sewing Machines > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Stainer's Seven-Fold Amen From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 04 Oct 2004 00:06:59 -0400   At 11:57 PM 10/3/2004, Bud wrote: >The other customary Anglican places, of course, were after the Third >Collect at the end of Evensong, and occasionally after the Blessing at >Holy Communion, or the final prayer at Sunday Mattins.   That is where I remember singing it, at the end of Evensong. I didn't = know that it could be sung anywhere else, - Bud, you are a fount of = information!   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Fountain of Much Knowledge & Wisdom From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 00:16:17 EDT   Hello Bud,   Sometime ago I wrote an organ piece based on the tune "Ora Labora" by T. Tertius Noble. If I can obtain (necessary) permission from "somewhere or = someone," it will be published in the near future.   Would you please steer me "in the right direction" with info about = copyright ownership for that hymn-tune?   I greatly respect you for many reasons, not the least of which is the vast =   amount of data you have learned, retained and generously share on so many = topics which those of us involved in the church music field. You are a treasure = and a treasury!   Dale G. Rider Independence, MO USA  
(back) Subject: Re: Service music my style today From: "T.Desiree' Hines" <nicemusica@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 23:04:18 -0700 (PDT)   The Stainer today followed the prayer after the sermon, and immediately = the antem followed. Next week since most of the choir is out, the ladies = will do a unison anthem. It would be nice to find some really nice newer benedictions to add = freshness to the service The Lutkin is nice, but something fresh is what = Im looking for. I may pull out the Wolford Davies God Be In My Head, but = thats an oldy too.   Bob Conway <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote: At 10:19 PM 10/3/2004, Desiree' wrote: >Offertory-Adoration -FB Price > >Choral Response - SevenFold Amen John Stainer (acapella)   We used to sing the Stainer Seven Fold Amen regularly, but always at the closing of the Service, - I have never heard of it being sung in the = middle of the Service.   Was there a special reason for singing where you did?   Bob Conway     ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: List-Digest: List-Unsubscribe:       From Desiree' T. Desiree' Hines Chicago, IL 60610 ---------------------------- For Compositions by Desiree' Frog Music Press www.frogmusic.com ------------------------------- FOR CONCERTS BY DESIREE' http://concertartist.info/bios/hines.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com