PipeChat Digest #4824 - Thursday, October 14, 2004
 
Re: Flashy short postludes?
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Bud and Burgie are moving
  by <MH1M@aol.com>
Re: Flashy short postludes?
  by "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com>
Re: Flashy short postludes?
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
another point about postludes
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: AGO
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: Short lively pieces for voluntaries
  by "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr>
pandering pays the bills, in some cases
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Photographers!
  by "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
RE: Flashy short postludes?
  by "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com>
fashions in music
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
"Climax" harmonium books from Paxton
  by "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Flashy short postludes? From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:27:30 EDT   Herman Schroeder Sechs kleine Praludien und Intermezzi, op 9 Edition Schott (book 2221) has several super pieces, one in particular (the last in the = collection--in C Major) uses one setting of registration for the whole piece (as I recall) = and can go like lightning or a little, shall I say, more moderato & is equally =   effective either way. Wonderful postlude! I have my hands (right now) on about 7 collections of his, but cannot for = the life of me find THE very book; it might not make any difference because , = as I recall the pieces are simply numbered, rather than given individual = titles.   Dale Rider Independence, MO USA  
(back) Subject: Re: Bud and Burgie are moving From: <MH1M@aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:28:26 EDT   HI BUD! HOW ARE YOU AND BURGIE? MAYBE IT IS GOOD THAT YOU ARE MOVING. IS YOUR RENT LESS EXPENSIVE AT YOUR NEW PLACE? I ALWAYS ENJOY READING YOUR INTELLIGENT, KNOWLEDGEABLE LIST COMMENTS. I SEND THEM TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS WHO ARE NOT ON THE LIST. TAKE CARE, MICHAEL  
(back) Subject: Re: Flashy short postludes? From: "Jan Nijhuis" <nijhuis@email.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:30:05 +0800   Wrong end of the title, but "Prelude In Classic Style" by Gordon A Young, i= s a good "get your butts out of the pews" piece. Or, how about the second p= art (Andante) of Sonatine 1 by M. Clementi; It's a piano/harpsichord piece,= but I think it can adapt well to organ with no stop changes. Jeremiah Clar= ke "Trumpet Volutary."   I just ran accross this site, if you don't have enough music yet, http://ww= w.inhymn.com/mainfolder/om.php, has some TIFs of several dozen pieces. "Pos= tlude in Bb" by Scotson Clark looks entertaining.     ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Flashy short postludes? Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:04:38 -0500   > Inasmuch as I am called on to help out low-brow Methodists about once or > twice every other month, I am looking for flashy, medium difficulty, > short (3-4 minute) postludes that do not require lots of stop changes > (the small tracker with no pistons and heavy drawknobs). >=20 > Thanks for your suggestions. >=20 > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com   -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com   --=20 ___________________________________________________________ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm    
(back) Subject: Re: Flashy short postludes? From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:42:51 -0700   "Marche aux Flambeaux" (!) by Scotson Clark in "Everbody's Favorite Organ Music is also fun, and easy.   One can always fantasize that they were on their way to flambeau a miscreant cleric (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud   Jan Nijhuis wrote:   > Wrong end of the title, but "Prelude In Classic Style" by Gordon A > Young, is a good "get your butts out of the pews" piece. Or, how > about the second part (Andante) of Sonatine 1 by M. Clementi; It's a > piano/harpsichord piece, but I think it can adapt well to organ with > no stop changes. Jeremiah Clarke "Trumpet Volutary." > > I just ran accross this site, if you don't have enough music yet, > http://www.inhymn.com/mainfolder/om.php, has some TIFs of several > dozen pieces. "Postlude in Bb" by Scotson Clark looks entertaining. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenda <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: > 'PipeChat' <pipechat@pipechat.org> Subject: Flashy short postludes? > Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:04:38 -0500 > > >> Inasmuch as I am called on to help out low-brow Methodists about >> once or twice every other month, I am looking for flashy, medium >> difficulty, short (3-4 minute) postludes that do not require lots >> of stop changes (the small tracker with no pistons and heavy >> drawknobs). >> >> Thanks for your suggestions. >> >> Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com > > > -- Jan Nijhuis nijhuis@email.com >      
(back) Subject: another point about postludes From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:57:24 -0700   Most organists in Protestant churches have the responsibility for one service; if there ARE two services, Sunday School is usually in between.   Roman Catholic organists (and some Anglican organists) often play 2-3-4-5 back-to-back services, with MAYBE 15-30 minutes between services to empty the church and the parking lot and then refill them for the next service.   For most of my career, I played three Sunday Masses, even in the Anglican church ... and the schedule was usually something like 7:30 - 8:45 - 10:00 ... or maybe 7:30-9:00-10:30. But with the Anglican liturgy and a full church for communion in both Kinds, that's still TIGHT.   Somebody else had to warm up the choir for the last Mass ... or in a couple of cases my assistant played the Recessional Hymn and the voluntary while I rehearsed the choir. If I was alone, I barely had time to play 16 measures for a postlude, use the restroom, grab a cup of coffee and a donut, and go do the next one.   At my first RC parish, the organist played 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10:30 (High) - noon ... and then went home and DIED (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud          
(back) Subject: Re: AGO From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 01:19:22 EDT   My view is, if you feel right in accepting it and keeping it, do so.   Neil  
(back) Subject: Re: Short lively pieces for voluntaries From: "John Foss" <harkat@kat.forthnet.gr> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 09:29:31 +0300   Glenda wrote I am looking for flashy, medium difficulty...   On a recent outing to Salonika Klaidi bought me back a book of organ music as as present - a rare find in Greece. It had at least one piece of more than ephemeral interest in it, the "Choral et Variations on Was Gott tut, das ist wohlgetan" by Guilmant. It also has several short, lively pieces by composers such as Marcel Courtonne (Grand Choeur), and five pieces by Leon Boellmann, 2 = offertoires, 2 Sorties and 1 Grand sortie. It is titled "Vox Humana" and is published = by Barenreiter, BA 8231 They are in many cases manuals only, or a fairly rudimentary pedal part, and do not present many problems of technique. I have been using them for beginners. Perhaps these might be of use? I expect I will be accused of musical snobbery, but Cesar Franck worked = hard to free the french organ loft of trivia, such as "orages" designed merely = to tickle the ear! Now, come on, Glenda, try and give them something decent that they will enjoy, but don't pander to the lowest common denominator!   John Foss      
(back) Subject: pandering pays the bills, in some cases From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 23:50:57 -0700   Or, as the RC organists in Cincinnati used to say,   "Kiss a** and pay Kroger's" (grin).   Glenda, I forget Flor Peeters Sixty Short Pieces ... it's back in print again. Some of the loud ones are fun, esp. #1.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Photographers! From: "Harry Grove" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 07:55:29 +0100   We truly are "one nation separated by a common language" .... you = rascally, colonial types.   "Videographer" ................. ho-ho-ho ! That's a 'good-un'. We used to call them 'cameramen' back in the 'good-ol' days. (Even my American spell-checker doesn't recognise this)   But 'Hostesses', already ? That's something associated with the seediest of night-clubs, surely ?   And what would a 'Hostess' - even with the "Most-ess" - be doing in a = church for a wedding ? That is, ............. that the Groom's Ushers = and the Bride's Maids aren't doing already ?   Harry Grove [a.k.a. a musicman who fully agrees to the other arrangements - very = similar to our church - where our (lady) Rector once told a photographer = who was setting-up his tripod on the Chancel steps, "If you intend to = remain there, laddie, the first thing I'm going to do will be to call = down the wrath of God upon your head! Harry! Come and show him what = the 'wrath of God' looks like!"   PS I am 6'4" and would happily take my place in a defensive line-up = (Grid-iron style). ----- Original Message -----=20 From: TheOrganst@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 6:13 PM Subject: Re: Photographers! =20 [snip] Our brides sign a contract allowing one (1) still photographer and one = (1) videographer.=20 [snip] Our hostesses will confront anyone they see disrupting the service = with cameras, cell phones etc.
(back) Subject: RE: Flashy short postludes? From: "Will Light" <will.light@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:30:55 +0100   We are not familiar, or at least I am not familiar, with Lorenz here in = the UK. From what I hear it sounds as if the stuff is rather like a composer that my organ tutor warned me about 50 years ago - Caleb Semper. He said, "Don't ever play that muck!" I never have, but sometimes someone gives me = a pile of music which includes volumes of CS. Every one is almost identical = - full of Victorian chromaticims.   Will Light Coventry UK   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Best Sent: 14 October 2004 00:41 To: PipeChat For what it's worth, I have yet to recommend the Lorenz pediodicals to any of the hundreds of organ students I've taught over the years. It's probably just a matter of personal taste. Still, when students latch on to these on their own, they seem to lose interest quickly.   Steve Best in Utica, NY        
(back) Subject: fashions in music From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:49:09 -0700   One has to sing and play Caleb Simper with tongue firmly in cheek and a somewhat perverse sense of humor (grin). Personally, I think he's great = fun.   He's certainly no WORSE than the basses going "hee hee, ho ho" in Barnby's "O How Manifold" (chuckle).   Eduard Batiste ... that's the other Victorian whose name I couldn't remember earlier. He rates a master's or a doctoral paper, and a new edition ... I think both are in progress ... or I may be thinking of Theodore Salome.   All joking aside, I HOPE all that Novello choir fodder from a hundred years ago IS being preserved ... it IS part of our Anglican heritage, along with the "greats."   On the organ scene, we've already seen a new edition of Guilmant recently; 20-30 years ago, nobody in his right MIND would admit to playing Guilmant; 40 years ago, that was true of most Reger, if one was an Oberlin graduate (chuckle); few people played the Widor Symphonies, and even fewer the Vierne, unless one studied at Eastman in the Gleason = era.   Fashions in music change, just as they do in organ-building; if you have an urge to dispose of your Victoriana, send it to me and I'll see that it finds a good home (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud   Will Light wrote:   > We are not familiar, or at least I am not familiar, with Lorenz here in = the > UK. From what I hear it sounds as if the stuff is rather like a composer > that my organ tutor warned me about 50 years ago - Caleb Semper. He = said, > "Don't ever play that muck!" I never have, but sometimes someone gives = me a > pile of music which includes volumes of CS. Every one is almost = identical - > full of Victorian chromaticims. > > Will Light > Coventry UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Stephen Best > Sent: 14 October 2004 00:41 > To: PipeChat > For what it's worth, I have yet to recommend the Lorenz pediodicals to > any of the hundreds of organ students I've taught over the years. It's > probably just a matter of personal taste. Still, when students latch on =   > to these on their own, they seem to lose interest quickly. > > Steve Best in Utica, NY > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >      
(back) Subject: "Climax" harmonium books from Paxton From: "Liquescent" <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 00:50:36 -0700   Will, if you EVER come across the "Climax"(!) series of harmonium books from Paxton, I will PAY you for them. They are DELIGHTFUL fun, but I only own one.   Cheers,   Bud   Will Light wrote:   > We are not familiar, or at least I am not familiar, with Lorenz here in = the > UK. From what I hear it sounds as if the stuff is rather like a composer > that my organ tutor warned me about 50 years ago - Caleb Semper. He = said, > "Don't ever play that muck!" I never have, but sometimes someone gives = me a > pile of music which includes volumes of CS. Every one is almost = identical - > full of Victorian chromaticims. > > Will Light > Coventry UK > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Stephen Best > Sent: 14 October 2004 00:41 > To: PipeChat > For what it's worth, I have yet to recommend the Lorenz pediodicals to > any of the hundreds of organ students I've taught over the years. It's > probably just a matter of personal taste. Still, when students latch on =   > to these on their own, they seem to lose interest quickly. > > Steve Best in Utica, NY > > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> > >