PipeChat Digest #4839 - Tuesday, October 19, 2004
 
Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique
  by "mpm1927op4933" <mpm1927op4933@yahoo.com>
Re: Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Michael 1 and 2
  by "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net>
Re: Nilson Pedal Technique
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
RE: Nilson Pedal Technique
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
hymntune: Michael
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: small scale stopped pipe
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Michael 1 and 2
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Michael 1 and 2
  by "alantaylor1" <alantaylor1@members.v21.co.uk>
Re: Michael 1 and 2
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net>
Re: Nilson Pedal Technique
  by "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net>
Re: Wow!
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
Re: "Independent Church of Christ"
  by <OMusic@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique From: "mpm1927op4933" <mpm1927op4933@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:32:19 -0700 (PDT)   I was willingly drafted by my congregation to play organ a little over a year ago. I previously had only a piano background so I've done a lot of manuals-only music while developing pedal skills. My instructor has me working from the Flor Peeters Little Organ Book. I'm interested in knowing what people's experience with that book has been--both the good and bad.   Thank you, Scott     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail  
(back) Subject: Re: Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:22:26 -0500   Just to throw out- for a nice flashy postlude with very easy pedals:   get the Pachelbel book from Dover- there's a nice Toccata in C which uses CC ang GG only. You can set your feet before you start to play, and sound like a million bucks with no pedal technique required!   Paul   At 5:32 AM -0500 10/19/4, mpm1927op4933 wrote: >I was willingly drafted by my congregation to play >organ a little over a year ago. I previously had only >a piano background so I've done a lot of manuals-only >music while developing pedal skills. My instructor has >me working from the Flor Peeters Little Organ Book. >I'm interested in knowing what people's experience >with that book has been--both the good and bad. > >Thank you, >Scott   http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Michael 1 and 2 From: "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:24:41 -0400   Speaking of Tune Names: The tune for "My Shepherd Will supply my need" (tune goes : dms mrm sd lsm) is given the name "Consolation" in the Presbyterian hymnal but in my head is an minor/modal early American tune for that name. I always thought the right name for the Shepherd tune was "Resignation." So, in the case of Michael having two tunes now we have a tune with two names. (Say that five times fast.) Chuck Peery St. Louis     On Oct 18, 2004, at 11:02 PM, Randolph Runyon wrote:   > The Michael in the Lutheran Book of Worship ("Oh, Praise the Lord, My > Soul!") is not the same as the one in the Lutheran hymn supplement > With One > Voice ("All My Hope on God Is Founded"), which also appears in the > Presbyterian Hymnal (as "God, Our Help and Constant Refuge"). The > latter > tune is by Herbert Howells, and is by far the prettier of the two. The > other is by Charles Anders. I'm rather sure the one being discussed > on this > forum is the Howells. It's strange that there would be two tunes with > the > same name. I thought it was rather like naming race horses--that > there must > be some central list somewhere one would consult before naming a new > tune. > Are there other instances, I wonder, of the same name given to two > tunes? > > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu > > > > ****************************************************************** > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> > List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> > List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org> >    
(back) Subject: Re: Nilson Pedal Technique From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:53:05 EDT   I was taught beginning at the tender young age of 10 or so, from Nilson. = I guess I was too young and naieve to know any different, but I was = assigned page after page at a time from the book to do each week. In no time, I = was flying through those lessons. I was also doing the pedal techniques from = my John Stainer organ book (yes, I was taught from Stainer--talk about = Victorian!) and also transcribing Hanon keyboard exercises to the pedals. My teacher = was drilling me on pdeal technique like nobody's business. Today, I'm glad = he did. Back then, I just thought that everyone had to do it. After a = while, though, I wised up, and realised that I was doing what seemd like an = inordinate amount of pedal work, however, it has really paid off. I need to pull = out the Nilson and do several pages a day before I start practicing-take 5 or = 10 minutes and do it again--it never hurts. Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: RE: Nilson Pedal Technique From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:55:20 -0500   For those who are wishing to order, can anyone give the proper name of the book? Is it as titled above or no?   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com (who does not have a copy here to provide that info)          
(back) Subject: hymntune: Michael From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:03:33 EDT   The hymntune that I was referring to in the Callahan arrangement is definitely the Howells. The arrangement is subtitled, "All My Help on God = is Founded", and credits Howells as the composer. I've been too lazy to go = look through my LBW and WOV to go look up the other tune called "Michael" and = see how it goes. Dale Rider said that "slush" is good where the Howells tune is concerned. = Callahan calls for a registration of Flutes and Strings 8' on both the = Sw. and Ch. and Foundations 8' on the Gt. I just added to it a little--I used that at 16, 8, 4 on the Sw and 8, 4 on = the Ch, Foundations 8 on the Gt, and Founds. 8, 4, on the Antiphonal. = Worked just fine...keeping with the composers intentions--just souping it up a little. As Emeril would say, "kicking it up a notch." Monty Bennett  
(back) Subject: Re: small scale stopped pipe From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:14:44 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)   TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: -------Original Message------- > Quintadena Or Nason Flute Faithfully, G.A.  
(back) Subject: Re: Michael 1 and 2 From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:38:19 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Crumbs!   I've just realised that there is ONE thing Howells wrote that I like...the hymn tune Michael.   I may be wrong, but wasn't this the tune Howells wrote to commemorate the death of his own child?   Could that child have been called Michael?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > The Michael in the Lutheran Book of Worship ("Oh, > Praise the Lord, My > Soul!") is not the same as the one in the Lutheran > hymn supplement With One > Voice ("All My Hope on God Is Founded     _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Michael 1 and 2 From: "alantaylor1" <alantaylor1@members.v21.co.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:57:09 +0100   Yes, that is quite correct in all regards.   Alan Taylor London   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Colin Mitchell Sent: 19 October 2004 13:38 To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Michael 1 and 2   Hello,   Crumbs!   I've just realised that there is ONE thing Howells wrote that I like...the hymn tune Michael.   I may be wrong, but wasn't this the tune Howells wrote to commemorate the death of his own child?   Could that child have been called Michael?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Randolph Runyon <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > The Michael in the Lutheran Book of Worship ("Oh, > Praise the Lord, My > Soul!") is not the same as the one in the Lutheran > hymn supplement With One > Voice ("All My Hope on God Is Founded     _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com   ****************************************************************** "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org List-Subscribe: <mailto:pipechat-on@pipechat.org> List-Digest: <mailto:pipechat-digest@pipechat.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pipechat-off@pipechat.org>     --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 15/10/2004   --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.778 / Virus Database: 525 - Release Date: 15/10/2004    
(back) Subject: Re: Michael 1 and 2 From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:02:18 -0400   on 10/19/04 8:38 AM, Colin Mitchell at cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   > Hello, > > Crumbs! > > I've just realised that there is ONE thing Howells > wrote that I like...the hymn tune Michael. > > I may be wrong, but wasn't this the tune Howells wrote > to commemorate the death of his own child? > > Could that child have been called Michael? > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK >     Yes, you are quite right. His name was Michael, and at the age of nine he died of polio. I did a little searching and found the story at http://www.ott.zynet.co.uk/polio/lincolnshire/library/drhenry/michaelstune.= h tml     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@swbell.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:23:45 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "mpm1927op4933" <mpm1927op4933@yahoo.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 5:32 AM Subject: Flor Peeters and Pedal Technique     > I was willingly drafted by my congregation to play > organ a little over a year ago. I previously had only > a piano background so I've done a lot of manuals-only > music while developing pedal skills. My instructor has > me working from the Flor Peeters Little Organ Book. > I'm interested in knowing what people's experience > with that book has been--both the good and bad.   I would thoroughly recommend the Flor Peeters book for people who wish to learn to play the organ as an avocation and are not intending later to go = to Eastman and get a DMA. If you are intending to be a professional = organist, you would need something rather more high powered. The Flor Peeters book = is a bit like the "direct method" for learning a language, since you not only learn to play the instrument, but you do so by learning simple pieces that are actually good organ repertoire by respectable composers. This makes = the whole experience much more enjoyable. So far as pedal technique is concerned, it would encourage a more classical and continental approach = than most mainstream Anglo-American organists would advocate these days, but = this ought not to be a problem for anyone who is not expecting to be a leading recitalist. When I first learnt the organ forty years ago, I used an English tutor by Sir Percy C. Buck called "The First Year at the Organ." This was also quite a good tutor for the person (like me) who is learning the organ as an avocation, but while this would probably be more highly thought of from the pedal technique point of view, it is not nearly so = much fun. I have, however, used the Flor Peeters "Little Organ Book" on occasions, not to learn the organ, but because it is a good mine of simple repertoire that you can play more or less from sight. A friend at my church, who did a minor in piano performance at college but had no organ background, has been using the Flor Peeters book under the tutelege of a local organist and has been having a good experience with it.   John Speller      
(back) Subject: Re: Nilson Pedal Technique From: "Stephen Best" <stevebest@usadatanet.net> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:59:28 -0400   "A System of Technical Studies in Pedal Playing for the Organ," by L. Nilson, translated from the Swedish by J.E. Barkworth, M.A. & Mus. Bac. Oxon.   G. Schirmer ed. 1799, copyright 1904.   More than you ever needed to know!   Steve Best in Utica, NY   Glenda wrote:   >For those who are wishing to order, can anyone give the proper name of >the book? Is it as titled above or no? > >Glenda Sutton >gksjd85@direcway.com >(who does not have a copy here to provide that info) > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Wow! From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:19:37 EDT   Keith has been to the Wichita concerts for many years. After the concert = he will give a report about the organ and the playing. The concerts are = always exciting and afterwards we go to the home of the supporters who have 2 = theater organs and 2 grand pianos and have more music, meet the guest and have = lots of food. These after concert receptions last until 1 or 2 in the morning and =   are lots of fun. Anyone near Wichita should plan to attend. I am excited = about hearing Jelanie Eddington, as I have never heard him. We will be meeting = him at the after concert reception. Sunday we are going to a concert in = Norman, OK to McFarland Methodist Church to hear Dr. Samuel Porter on the Noack, = at 2:30 and hope to make it to Dallas to a concert at Broadway Baptist at = 7:30. It will be a music-filled weekend. (I am taking a week off from my responsibilities at church to do this). Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: "Independent Church of Christ" From: <OMusic@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:25:45 EDT   It would be impossible to get everyone who is a Christian in one denomination. I heard a pastor once say he was glad there were so many = denominations for people who felt different from the church he pastored. Every denomination =   feels they are right. Many feel any Christian who accepts Christ as = Savior is saved through Grace and some believe their members are the only ones going = to Heaven. There is no way everyone is going to believe the same thing or interpret the scriptures the same way. I can play in any church that = believes in Salvation by Grace through Jesus Christ our Savior. (unless they feel = only their members are the only saved people). Lee